Linux-Misc Digest #898, Volume #24 Fri, 23 Jun 00 04:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: kfm ftp - username/password (none)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Don Saklad)
Re: How to detect a program is being traced (David Steuber)
POSIX, what the heck...??? (Hendrix)
HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile* (Hendrix)
cant install prog because outdated libraries ("Mal")
Re: How to speed up Netscape under Linux? (Charles Philip Chan)
Re: increase partition size? (Markus Kossmann)
Re: cant install prog because outdated libraries ("David ..")
Re: I just got my laptop and I want to install Linux, now what ??? (Mike)
Re: is a JVM available for Linux? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile* ("David ..")
Redhat upgrade HOW-TO? ("ywk@Redhat")
Re: POSIX, what the heck...??? ("Tom")
Re: Delete File With Strange Chars (Henjo)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (David Steuber)
Re: Upgrade from Mandrake 7.0 (Air) to Mandrake 7.1 (Helium): Painless? ("D. D.
Brierton")
Re: HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile* (Charles Philip Chan)
Re: POSIX, what the heck...??? ("Bursch")
Cannot Login into Linux (Jitesh Batra)
gcc-2.95.2 rpm? Where? (Christoph Kukulies)
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: kfm ftp - username/password
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:51:53 -0600
Rick wrote:
> Is it possible to pass a username and password to kfm for a
> "non-anonymous" ftp login ?
> --
> Rick
> To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
try this
ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
this works in webrowsers, gmc, and i beleive it should work under kfm.
laters.
frm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Saklad)
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 23 Jun 2000 00:50:40 -0400
If want to be a part of the plot to get our City of Boston
Public Library Departments to consider GNU/LINUX more
strongly, begin with contacting BPL's C. Phillips, email:
www [at] bpl.org
tel. 617-536-5400
http://www.bpl.org
By the way here're some of Phillips' photos
http://www.bpl.org/www/news/flood%5Fphotos%5Fnew.html
Or try the city public library department board chairman
Joe Mullaney
http://www.bpl.org/WWW/trusteeagenda52000.html
email:
www [at] bpl.org
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Subject: Re: How to detect a program is being traced
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:00:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
' I rather suspect that the fish wouldn't live through the experience of
' getting _into_ a bowel, but really don't want to know... :-)
Damn spell checker. I meant bowl! ;-)
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: POSIX, what the heck...???
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:57:29 -0230
Hi guys,
What the heck is POSIX...??? What does it stand for, and what does it
mean...??? I've seen the reference to POSIX Compliance, but I still
have no idea what it is... Any information will be greatly
appreciated...
Thanks,
Trevor...
======================
That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile*
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:11:24 -0230
Hi guys,
I'm trying to use the shutdown command to halt the computer at a
specific time and date... Is this possible...??? For instance, how
would I be able to halt the computer at 10:00pm...???
Would I use: shutdown -h 10:00
And what if I wanted to halt the computer at 10:00pm on June 23rd...???
Is there a way to do this (even without the shutdown command)...???
--
Trevor Penney,
A+, Network+ Certified
======================
That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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Reply-To: "Mal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Mal" <maliciousone[NOSPAM]@hotmail.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: cant install prog because outdated libraries
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:50:19 -0500
I am very new to linux and I tried installing a program with the .sh
extension. I made it executable and then ran it with ./ But then it said
it needed libraries or packages equal to or newer than the following to
work:
libc version 5.4.13
ld.so version 1.8.5
XFree86 version 3.1.2
My system runs Mandrake 7.0. I suppose I have an outdated version of one of
these, but I'm not sure which. I only know for sure that I have a newer
version of XFree86 than the one above. How do I find out my versions of the
other 2? And more importantly, where can I get these updated versions of
these packages or libraries? This is the problem right? Help is greatly
appreciated. Please respond to my email address also, remove the [NOSPAM]
for real address.
-Mal
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Subject: Re: How to speed up Netscape under Linux?
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jun 2000 00:44:25 +0500
>>>>> "Hal" == Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:06:10 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> I really hate to admitt this, but he's right....!!! I find
>> that I am running at half speed compared to that of my Windows
>> operation.... Is the bottleneck in Linux or Netscape.....???
>> I think the Linux version of Netscape isn't using it's caching
>> option effectively... Anyone else having problems like
>> this...???????
> NS is a red herring. Optimize your serial port and pppd.
I have been using a program called irqtune for the past few years to
reprioritise the irq's to make internet connections faster. It has
worked quite well for me. Do a search on freshmeat.
Charles
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: increase partition size?
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 06:51:51 +0200
"David E. Gordon" wrote:
>
> How do I (or can I) make one of my partitions bigger without wiping
> everything and starting again? I only have Linux on my machine. Is there
> is Linux "partition magic" like product out there?
Have a look at http://linux.msede.com/ext2/
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cant install prog because outdated libraries
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:01:14 -0500
Mal wrote:
>
> I am very new to linux and I tried installing a program with the .sh
> extension. I made it executable and then ran it with ./ But then it said
> it needed libraries or packages equal to or newer than the following to
> work:
>
> libc version 5.4.13
> ld.so version 1.8.5
> XFree86 version 3.1.2
>
> My system runs Mandrake 7.0. I suppose I have an outdated version of one of
> these, but I'm not sure which. I only know for sure that I have a newer
> version of XFree86 than the one above. How do I find out my versions of the
> other 2? And more importantly, where can I get these updated versions of
> these packages or libraries? This is the problem right? Help is greatly
> appreciated. Please respond to my email address also, remove the [NOSPAM]
> for real address.
rpm -q libc
locate ld.so
rpm -q XFree86
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.laptop
Subject: Re: I just got my laptop and I want to install Linux, now what ???
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:21:26 -0500
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:01:31 -0400, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I just bought a used compaq presario 1210. It's a p150, with an
>upgraded 6 gig hd. I want to install linux and maybe even a 98/linux
>dual boot.
>
>Will I have any problems installing linux on this laptop ?
>
>How hard is it to do a dual boot?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>peter
This webpage has a lot of great information.
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: is a JVM available for Linux?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:52:45 -0400
joe shmoe wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a JVM available for Linux?
Yes. Both Sun and IBM have Java Virtual Machines for Linux, freely
available for download.
> Is anyone writing Java code for Linux?
In as much as Java code is _supposed_ to be portable between systems
(because of the JVM), you could say that many, many people are writing
Java code for Linux.
> Is there a newsgroup and/or site that covers Java on Linux?
Probably. I'd try the comp.lang.java newsgroup first, though.
> thanks
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile*
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:18:04 -0500
Hendrix wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm trying to use the shutdown command to halt the computer at a
> specific time and date... Is this possible...??? For instance, how
> would I be able to halt the computer at 10:00pm...???
>
> Would I use: shutdown -h 10:00
>
> And what if I wanted to halt the computer at 10:00pm on June 23rd...???
> Is there a way to do this (even without the shutdown command)...???
Use "at"
at 22:00 Jun 23
/usr/bin/shutdown -h now
Or "crontab" if you want it to shutdown every day or month at the same
time.
* * * * * /usr/bin/shutdown -h now
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^ ^= day-of-week
^ ^ ^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^= month-of-year
^ ^ ^
^ ^ ^= day-of-month
^ ^
^ ^= hour
^
^= minute
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: "ywk@Redhat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat upgrade HOW-TO?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:44:36 -0700
Hi Linuxers
I would like to upgrade my Rhat 6.0 to 6.2 on i686, what packages are
needed there? And where can I d/l the necessary packages? what
procedure should i follow?
I have upgraded my kerneld to 2.2.14, do I need to recomply the whole
thing again?
I think I have broken some links on libraries in XFree86, is the upgrade
help to fix it?
thanks very much for information
ywk
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From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POSIX, what the heck...???
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:40:59 +0200
Hi
POSIX means Portable Operating System Interface for UNIX.
There is a short description on http://www.whatis.com/posix.htm.
Tom
"Hendrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi guys,
>
> What the heck is POSIX...??? What does it stand for, and what does it
> mean...??? I've seen the reference to POSIX Compliance, but I still
> have no idea what it is... Any information will be greatly
> appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor...
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: Henjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delete File With Strange Chars
Date: 23 Jun 2000 07:00:04 GMT
Ok. I've found the solution already:
$ ls -li
$ find . -inum XXX -ok rm '{}' \;
This was what I meant all the time.
And the file wasn't called AAAA. I just typed that, because I couldn't
type alle the strange characters.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
>> If your file is really called AAAA/ then you can
>> narrow it down a bit with something like:
>> rm -i AAAA*
>> OR
>> rm -i AAAA?
> Or indeed
> rm AAAA\/
> to just delete the one file... '\' is the escape character and will cause
> the shell to treat the character after it as part of the filename rather
> than a special character (directory spearator in this case).
> Using this, you can create file names like...
> This is a filename
> by doing something like
> touch This\ is\ a\ filename
> --
> | |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
> | |can't move, with no hope of rescue. |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)|Consider how lucky you are that life has been |
> | in |good to you so far... |
> | Computer Science | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
Henjo
/-----------------------------------\
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| http://www.sweetdesign.nl |
| ICQ# 18616700 |
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Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:00:10 GMT
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' You're saying they actually use vi or emacs by choice ? Or because
' their management is too cheap to buy software designed in the last
' 10 years ? Get out and take a look at the business world; the tools
' you use were abandoned by businesses for office use in the 80's.
I've never seen Vi or Emacs reformat a document capriciously and
maliciously. Vi and Emacs don't seem to have an autosave feature that
saves the document you are working on every five minutes just incase
the computer crashes.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: "D. D. Brierton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade from Mandrake 7.0 (Air) to Mandrake 7.1 (Helium): Painless?
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:14:34 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I did a update from 7.0 to 7.1 and the results were mostly painless. The
> upgrade process is significantly slower than an entire install. The
> upgrade on a PIII-450/128M took a bit over 3 hours, while an entire
> install on a Celeron 433/64M took little over an hour.
Thanks for the tips. In the end my (im)patience got the better of me and I
upgraded before I read your reply! I agree that the results were indeed
pretty painless, except for the fact that you got off *really* lightly if
it only took you three hours. On my lowly Celeron-333/64M the upgrade took
nearly 10 hours!
> The installer seems to ignore release numbers on RPM's, but uses the
> packaging date of the RPM instead. What happened to me was that the
> installer "upgraded" pan-0.8.0 to pan-0.8.0beta2, since the beta2 rpm
> was packaged after the official 0.8.0 release rpm that I had built
> myself. This was the only error that I could find with the upgrade
> process.
I had exactly the same problem: the version of pan distributed with Helix
was more recent than the one Mandrake 7.1 replaced it with.
> I upgraded to XFree 4.0 without a problem, but I have a mach64 based
> system. Also the upgrade to 4.0 seems to be offered only in the expert
> mode.
I'm afraid that I wasn't so lucky. I used the expert upgrade mode and
chose XFree 4.0 but XFdrake quietly decided that it didn't work properly
and so set up 3.3.6, overwriting my carefully tailored original XF86Config
in the process. I can't get XFree 4.0 to work, which is odd as my chip is
definitely supported. I think that'll have to be the subject of another
post.
>> 3. My sound chip (on-board CMI 8330) was an absolute bitch to get
>> working and it took me a long time. Is there any danger that I'll
>> have to do this all over again after the upgrade?
>>
> I have a standard soundblaster, and did not have a problem, all sound
> configuration was left as it was before I started the upgrade.
> Module, postfix, and other settings were untouched by the upgrade.
Yes, that was my happy experience too.
> The only thing I had to tidy up had to do with the KDE menus. Mandrake
> has gone with the Debian style menu updating with release 7.1, this has
> the advantages of keeping all menus the same across all window managers
> & desktops. The downside was was that all the settings that I had
> configured were lost. It took a few hours to get things back to the way
> things were before, but this was a fairly minor issue. Anyway, I like
> things the new way much better, even if the menu configuration process
> is now a bit awkward.
I'm very puzzled by this menu business. When I read about it I thought it
was a really good idea, but now I'm not so sure. The menus are all neatly
arranged in KDE, and the same menu appears in GNOME as a sub-menu of the
main menu. However, the nice Helix arrangement for the GNOME menu does not
translate over into KDE, so the GNOME sub-menu in KDE is totally different
to its arrangement in GNOME (if you get my drift).
Also, none of my other window managers have been at all affected by this.
They still have exactly the same menus as they did before. Well, that's
not a huge problem for me because I only really use KDE with KWM and GNOME
with Sawfish. But it seems strange. And I do very occasionally use
Blackbox and WindowMaker, for a holiday, so to speak. As Blackbox only has
the one config file I decided to rename it and see what happened. Well,
Blackbox's menu was replaced by the new menus alright, but all of the
Blackbox specific items, such as changing theme, had vanished. Now if I
was a regular Blackbox user I think I'd find that pretty irritating and
unhelpful.
Another peculiarity is that a newer version of gFTP was installed, and as
a result it has now vanished from the GNOME menu but is in the KDE menu
instead! Also, klyx, which is still installed from Mandrake 7.0, used to
be on the KDE menu, but is now on no menu whatsoever.
I tried to find some documentation regarding this feature and couldn't
find any whatsoever. And this is my one real disappointment with Mandrake
7.1. Some of the most heavily touted and (potentially) useful features
have no documentation at all as far as I can tell: the reiser journaling
filesystem, XFree86 4.0, the web based administration tool (WebConf?) and
the auto-updating menus seem to have no documentation at all.
It took me absolutely ages to work out that in order to get XFree86 4.0
you had to unlink /etc/X11/X and link it to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86, and
that there were two seperate config files, XF86Config for 3.3.6 and
XF86Config-4 for 4.0 (a nice touch, BTW, but it would have been so much
nicer to have been told about it).
Has reiserfs support been installed or not? Is it possible to
non-destructively convert an ext2fs partition to a reiserfs one? What does
one have to do to get the WebConf thingy working? How can one make all the
installed window managers start using the new menu system (and is there a
way to get them to still have their own menus at the same time)? I really
am surprised the Mandrake didn't put together a What's New doc for those
of us upgrading. I wonder if it is worth mailing them to suggest that this
is something they could improve on?
If you can shed any light on this auto-updating menu business it would be great.
Best,
Darren
--
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D. D. Brierton Department of Philosophy, University of Edinburgh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HALTING Linux EXACTLY when I WANT TO.......!!!!!*smile*
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jun 2000 02:18:29 +0500
>>>>> "Hendrix" == Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi guys, I'm trying to use the shutdown command to halt the
> computer at a specific time and date... Is this possible...???
> For instance, how would I be able to halt the computer at
> 10:00pm...???
> Would I use: shutdown -h 10:00
No, that will be 10:00 am, you have to use 22:00
> And what if I wanted to halt the computer at 10:00pm on June
> 23rd...??? Is there a way to do this (even without the shutdown
> command)...???
Run it as a cron job.
Charles
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From: "Bursch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: POSIX, what the heck...???
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:42:16 +0200
Hi Trevor,
IMO POSIX is nothing else than (one of ;-) the standard shell(s) of
UNIX-systems....AFAIK HP-UX uses the POSIX-shell as standard....actually it
isn�t very different from the bash apart from some nuances. Please see "man
sh"
regards,
Bursch
*********************************************
One picture kills more bandwidth
than a thousand words
*********************************************
> Hi guys,
>
> What the heck is POSIX...??? What does it stand for, and what does it
> mean...??? I've seen the reference to POSIX Compliance, but I still
> have no idea what it is... Any information will be greatly
> appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor...
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still got my guitar...
------------------------------
From: Jitesh Batra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot Login into Linux
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:40:57 GMT
Hi...
I am running a Redhat Kinux 6.0.
We are unable to login on the console in init 3 mode. We are only able
to work in linux single mode.
Whenever we give a user name on the login prompt, it does not ask for a
password and we get back the new login prompt..
We have been unable to figure out the problem
Further the telnet login shows the /etc/issue , but does not give a
login prompt.
Please help it is causing the entire network shutdown
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc-2.95.2 rpm? Where?
Date: 23 Jun 2000 08:05:53 GMT
Anyone knowing where to find a gcc-2.95.2 rpm?
--
Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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