Linux-Misc Digest #917, Volume #24 Sat, 24 Jun 00 17:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: I just got my laptop and I want to install Linux, now what ??? ("Gymxo")
Newbie whinning for help !!! ("Daniel Pope")
Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: linux as a client :-( (Carl Fink)
Re: Why can't I unmount....????? ("Danny")
Re: Newbie whinning for help !!! (Martin Herrman)
Re: How to let Apache_php3 server work well? (Marecki)
Re: Newbie whinning for help !!! (Norm Ackroyd)
Re: Newbie whinning for help !!! (Robert Heller)
Re: KDE, GNOME etc (Rick)
Re: Why can't I unmount....????? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Need help: PS/2 mouse not working in doom (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Problem on SMTP for new user. (David Efflandt)
Re: Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src? (Robie Basak)
diald: delaying 30 seconds before clear to dial (Krzys Majewski)
strange linux install err (Neal Robles)
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From: "Gymxo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.laptop
Subject: Re: I just got my laptop and I want to install Linux, now what ???
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:02:37 +0800
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"peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I just bought a used compaq presario 1210. It's a p150, with an
> upgraded 6 gig hd. I want to install linux and maybe even a 98/linux
> dual boot.
>
> Will I have any problems installing linux on this laptop ?
>
> How hard is it to do a dual boot?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> peter
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From: "Daniel Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie whinning for help !!!
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:18:44 -0700
Hello,
I'm having a pretty stupid problem, I agree, but please help me, please !!
In order to execute a Linux command (executable file) I have to type indeed
the whole path and the name of the executable file EVEN IF I AM IN THE SAME
DIRECTORY AS THE EXECUTABLE FILE.
I need badly to get rid to the whole rest ofhe path and to be able to type
only the name of the executable.
What should I set in the Linux system in order to get rid of the path
when I type a command? (I have root rigths) !!
Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src?
Date: 24 Jun 2000 17:16:00 GMT
Do I need to keep the linux-2.2.13mdk source in /usr/src? I see a bunch
of subdirectories, and some *.h files in there that are taking up space.
Is it common to keep it in expanded form for say, compiling purposes or
something? Like the includes?
--
jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
Date: 24 Jun 2000 17:16:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:30:55 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>1. Are there any plans for making software just as easy to install
> as in Windows? RPM and DEB packages are a start, but these seem
> to be distribution specific.
Yes, but dpkg/apt (the system used by Debian, Caldera, and Storm) is
*superior* to Windows' InstallShield in every way except user
interface. If you don't like the interface, write a better one.
>2. Fonts are still a problem.
Have you installed XFree86 4.0, which uses TrueType fonts? I haven't
either (don't use many fonts), but it's supposedly enormously easier
to handle.
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Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: "Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why can't I unmount....?????
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:56:29 +0200
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guardian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:30:27 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Hi,
It is because you are browsing the mounted file system in
either a terminal or filebrowser.
Make sure that you close all programs or change to a different
directory in your terminal before you try to unmount.
example...
Let us say I mount my CD-ROM and I browse it in an xterm.
(I issue the following command to mount it)
[root&localhost]# mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
(I then change to the directory I have mounted my cdrom)
[root@localhost]# cd /mnt/cdrom
(I then do an "ls" command)
[root@localhost cdrom] ls
It will then list all the files on that particular cdrom.
Now if I try and "unmount" my CD-ROM, it will tell me
that it is busy because I am "theoretically
still using my CD-ROM . All you have to do is change to
another directory and then issue the
"unmount command.
Cheers
Danny
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>Why is it that unmounting doesn't always work...??? Sometimes I try to
>>unmount a specific filesystem and the system will return a message
>>saying that the device is busy, and cannot be unmounted... This message
>>is persistant even after I use the 'sync' command... The filesystem
>>doesn't seem to be busy... Sometimes the specifed mount is completely
>>empty with no files on the filesystem at all...But yet, the busy message
>>is still sent to the screen...
>>
>>Anyone...???
>>
>>Thanks,
>
> Don't crosspost.
>
> Sometime you may be in the directory that is mounted. For example, if I
> mount a cdrom and then cd /cdrom. Then I can't umount it while I'm in
> it cause it 's in use. All you do, cd to go back to ~/ and then umount
> /cdrom.
>
>
>
> Guardian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Newbie whinning for help !!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 2000 18:01:58 GMT
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:18:44 -0700, Daniel Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm having a pretty stupid problem, I agree, but please help me, please !!
> In order to execute a Linux command (executable file) I have to type indeed
> the whole path and the name of the executable file EVEN IF I AM IN THE SAME
> DIRECTORY AS THE EXECUTABLE FILE.
> I need badly to get rid to the whole rest ofhe path and to be able to type
> only the name of the executable.
> What should I set in the Linux system in order to get rid of the path
> when I type a command? (I have root rigths) !!
> Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
>
in the PATH variable, the current directory isn't included (i think it was
for security reasons?). So if you are in /usr/bin/ and you want to execute
the 'myfile' executable, then type: './myfile'. If you are in /usr/bin and
you want to execute /bin/myfile2, then type '/bin/myfile2'. I think you can
change the path variable in /root/.bashrc or for other users:
/home/user/.bashrc .. Tip: if you have typed /bi, then press the TAB key..
the n will appear.. For longer names this can be very fast ;-)
HTH
Martin
>
>
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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
7:50pm up 13 days, 55 min, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Marecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: How to let Apache_php3 server work well?
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:05:30 -0500
Lu Bingwen wrote:
>
> I just installed Apache 1.3.12 and Php3/MySQL on to my RedHat Linux
> system and set index.php3 as my homepage. The Apache test page is Ok.
> However, when I visited my index.php3 homepage, it showed the code source,
> not the output. How could I resolve this problem? Any suggestion please send
> to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot a lot.
>
> Ben
You need to install some modules for php3/apache...
in my case it was:
mod_php-.0.3-1.i386.rpm
mod_php3-mysql-3.0.12-1.i386.rpm
Marek
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norm Ackroyd)
Subject: Re: Newbie whinning for help !!!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 06:03:48 GMT
When you type a command in at the shell prompt, it starts going
through your PATH environmental variable and looking for the
executable. If your current directory is not in the PATH, then it will
not find the executable. Add a . (period signifies the current
directory) at the end of your path, then after checking all the other
directories in the PATH, it will look in the current directory. If you
want it to look in your current directory first, put it at the begging
of the path
KSH and BASH:
'export PATH=$PATH:.'
or
'export PATH=.:$PATH'
put this in your .profile or .bashrc or whatever to get it in your
environment every time you log in.
-Norm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:18:44 -0700, "Daniel Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>I'm having a pretty stupid problem, I agree, but please help me, please !!
> In order to execute a Linux command (executable file) I have to type indeed
>the whole path and the name of the executable file EVEN IF I AM IN THE SAME
>DIRECTORY AS THE EXECUTABLE FILE.
>I need badly to get rid to the whole rest ofhe path and to be able to type
>only the name of the executable.
> What should I set in the Linux system in order to get rid of the path
>when I type a command? (I have root rigths) !!
>Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
>
>
>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie whinning for help !!!
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:49:45 GMT
"Daniel Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:18:44 -0700, wrote :
"P> Hello,
"P> I'm having a pretty stupid problem, I agree, but please help me, please !!
"P> In order to execute a Linux command (executable file) I have to type indeed
"P> the whole path and the name of the executable file EVEN IF I AM IN THE SAME
"P> DIRECTORY AS THE EXECUTABLE FILE.
"P> I need badly to get rid to the whole rest ofhe path and to be able to type
"P> only the name of the executable.
"P> What should I set in the Linux system in order to get rid of the path
"P> when I type a command? (I have root rigths) !!
"P> Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
You need to setup your PATH variable:
csh/tcsh:
in ~/.login:
set path=(directory1 directory2 ... $path)
(or
setenv PATH directory1:directory2:...:$PATH
)
for sh/bash/ksh/zsh:
PATH=directory1:directory2:...:$PATH
export PATH
You *could* include '.' in your path, to allow you to run programs in
the current directory, but this is no really a good idea. You should
put the programs you use regularly into some 'standard' place.
Normally, most user programs are in /bin, /usr/bin, and /usr/X11R6/bin.
Locally installed optional software is usually in /usr/local/bin. Many
users create a directory off their home directory named 'bin' and put
personal utilities and scripts there and include ~/bin in their path.
If you need to run a random program on a one or occasional basis and the
program is in the current directory, you can type ./program to run it.
This is commonly done for one-time 'throw away' scripts.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, GNOME etc
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:15:17 -0400
2:1 wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I was wondering...
> I know thet KDE and GNOME aren't window managers, but I'm not entirely
> sure what else they do.
>
> Personally I like the FVWM2 window manager.
>
> Is it possible to run KDE or GNOME apps with this window manager?
> Do I have to do anything special or can I just execute them?
> Do I just need the KDE and GNOME libraries installed to run KNE and
> GNOME apps, whatever WM is running?
>
> thanks
>
> -Ed
I use fvwm2 on my Mac and my compaq laptop. I have KDE and GNOME
installed on both. In fact, on separate accounts, I have
Enlightenment/GNOME and KDE/KWM runing. But, for my everyday syuuf. I
use fvwm and both KDE and GNOME apps. This lets me use whatever app
works best.
--
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Why can't I unmount....?????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 20:09:22 GMT
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:56:29 +0200, Danny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guardian
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:30:27 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>Hi,
>
>It is because you are browsing the mounted file system in
>either a terminal or filebrowser.
>Make sure that you close all programs or change to a different
>directory in your terminal before you try to unmount.
There can be other reasons. Say you launch a program while your PWD is
in a partition that later you want to umnount, and then CD off that
partition. The filesystem is tracking where it was launched from, and
this will cause it to be busy also. Use something like:
lsof | grep <DIR_NAME>
may turn it up. Also, a corrupted filesystem can leave things messy and
report a FS busy when it is not. Been there, learned the hard way.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Need help: PS/2 mouse not working in doom
Date: 24 Jun 2000 20:21:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ Just installed Doom and I can't get it to work with the mouse.
[ It aborts with "mouse init failed" or some such.
[ I have attempted to edit the ".doomrc" file with no success, perhaps
[ because I don't know what to enter for the "mousedev" setting,
[ although I have tried variations of "psaux", "ps aux", "PSAUX", etc.
[ "mousetype" is set as PS/2.
[ Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[ Thanks
have you ever run gpm, it's like having mouse control over the cursor
even in text mode, maybe you need it recognized/detected before loading DOOM
try it out
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jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem on SMTP for new user.
Date: 24 Jun 2000 20:46:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:17:53 +0800, Bob Yeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm a new user to Linux, and I manage to get my Linux Mail Server up and
>able to send mail out to any internet users.
>
>The problem is that I'm under to receive anymail sending to my domain name.
>
>1.) I'm using a dial-up line to connect to the Internet.
>
>2.) my domain name is under1sun.com and ip address is 216.34.13.231
>
>3.) I have first set my Linux Box IP = 192.168.100.50, and having problem of
>receive my email, so I
>changed it to the same as my ISP assigned IP = 216.34.13.231, but still
>having the same problem. Later I changed back to 192.168.100.50
What IP is assigned to your end of the ppp connection and what name does
nslookup return for that IP? That is the only IP and name you could
receive mail directly through at this time, but would NOT work in the
private IP ranges 10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x. And that would
only work reliably if that IP was static (same every time).
216.34.13.231 is also a nameserver green.idirections.com and (future I
guess) virtual web host for www.under1sun.com and others. There is no
reverse lookup at all for that IP. Regardless of which name is used, port
25 there answers as: 220 Milk Run SMTP Server Mail ready. You could
probably send mail from there using CGI, but not receive it at that IP.
>4.) Can i set my Linux Box IP to 216.34.13.231, which is same as
>under1sun.com? and my Linux server name is "mail.under1sun.com" and can I
>set my Linux domain same as "under1sun.com"?
You cannot use that IP on your box, because it is a different box on the
internet for web hosting. You could call your box 'mail.under1sun.com' or
any other hostname.under1sun.com and still could NOT directly receive mail
there. But you could set your smtp server to masquerade as
'under1sun.com' so replies to outgoing mail would come to your POP server
at your ISP.
>5.) My incoming POP3 from the ISP is "mail.namezero.com"
>
>6.) My outgoing STMP from the ISP is "smtp.namezeo.com"
>
>7.) I'm using Qpopper 3.0.2 version and I'm able to "Telnet
>mail.under1sun.com 25" is will prompt the following:
>Trying 192.168.100.50
>Connected to mail.under1sun.com
>Escape character is '^]'.
>220 mail.under1sun.com ESMTP sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Sat, 24 jun 2000 16:12.56
>+0800
That is just because it is looping back through 192.168.100.50 on your
box, but that IP is not accessible from the internet.
>8.) Then if "Telnet mail.under1sun.com 110" is will prompt the following:
>Trying 192.168.100.50
>Connected to mail.under1sun.com
>Escape character is '^]'.
>+OK QPOP Modified by under1sun (version 3.0.2) at mail.under1sun.com
>starting. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Like the other reply said, see 'man fetchmail'. If it is not installed,
install it, and there is a fetchmail configuration tool available. The
.fetchmailrc would be something like:
poll mail.namezero.com with proto POP3
user <user> there with password "<password>" is <user> here
Don't put < > in there, just substitute actual values.
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http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 2000 21:03:30 GMT
On 24 Jun 2000 17:16:00 GMT, Andrew Purugganan said:
>Do I need to keep the linux-2.2.13mdk source in /usr/src? I see a bunch
>of subdirectories, and some *.h files in there that are taking up space.
>Is it common to keep it in expanded form for say, compiling purposes or
>something? Like the includes?
You may need it for compiling things, especially the includes. Keeping
/usr/src/linux/.config is also a good idea.
Robie.
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From: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diald: delaying 30 seconds before clear to dial
Date: 24 Jun 2000 14:05:09 -0700
Whenever my diald downs the ppp connection, it displays this message:
delaying 30 seconds before clear to dial
Isn't that a bit long? Why does it do this? Anyone know how to
configure it? -chris
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From: Neal Robles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: strange linux install err
Date: 24 Jun 2000 07:03:26 GMT
Hello Paul,
-=> paul johnston wrote to All <=-
pj> I am trying to figure out a problem for my boss who is trying to
pj> install storm linux on a Sony VAIO. Having tried three different
pj> partition sizes, he continually gets the error:
pj> warning: device 0x0307 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
pj> geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number 13 too big (1778 > 1023)
Get the latest version of LILO, or use nuni.
Regards,
Neal
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