Linux-Misc Digest #972, Volume #24               Wed, 28 Jun 00 09:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  insmod failed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Auto-monitor a process ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ISA nic cards? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ISA nic cards? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  dat drive detection problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  linux swap partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Zoom Modems (quiney,.philip.[hal02:hh00:exch]@chewtoy.com)
  getting software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  apropos nothing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  changing monitor settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  database benchmarks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  getting software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  what is jre and arch?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  linux swap partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  dynamic IP & mail server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> 
(quiney,.philip.[hal02:hh00:exch]@chewtoy.com)
  NYC LOCAL: LXNY at PC EXPO in The Javits 26-29 June 2000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux, Quake2 and a PS/2 Mouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ISA nic cards? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  linux swap partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  BAD MAGIC NUMBER IN SUPERBLOCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Hendrix wrote:
> Another couple of questions...*s*
> 1. How can I set permissions so that other users, besides root, can
> execute a certain given program...???  I thought about making a
 group,
> probably called pppusers (or something equivalent)...  And making
 that
> group own the pppd file, but I don't see how that would be any
 different
> from setting rwx access for everyone on the pppd program
 itself...???
> If I set the "other" permission on the pppd program, and all
 scripts
> used to access this daemon, to read,write, and execute, then
 shouldn't
> they be able to execute the pppd script...????

So that all users can read, write, & execute:
chmod 777 <filename>


> 
> 2. Is there a method for keeping a user from copying the
 "/etc/passwd"
> file..??  I recently discovered that I have no idea how to stop
 read
> access to this file...???  Well, read access yes, but copying no...
  I
> was hoping that linux would treat copying the same as it would
 treat the
> reading of a file....????

If you're using shadow passwords then this is a non issue.  Most
 modern
distro's use shadow passwords, which do not allow any user to read
 the
file.


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 section, 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: insmod failed?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.questions Devon Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's actually enabled at boot up, but fails at 'insmod 3c509'.
 After the
> system has comeup, I can then manually do 'insmod 3c509' then
 'ifconfig eth1
> 192.168.0.1' insmod seems to timeout on boot.

Isn't there an "after" and "before" directive one can use in
 modules.conf
(I am completely new to Unix, so am not sure of the name)? You may
 want to
force one of the drivers to wait until the other driver has installed
 by
using that.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Another couple of questions...*s*

1. How can I set permissions so that other users, besides root, can
execute a certain given program...???  I thought about making a
 group,
probably called pppusers (or something equivalent)...  And making
 that
group own the pppd file, but I don't see how that would be any
 different
from setting rwx access for everyone on the pppd program itself...???
 
If I set the "other" permission on the pppd program, and all scripts
used to access this daemon, to read,write, and execute, then
 shouldn't
they be able to execute the pppd script...????

2. Is there a method for keeping a user from copying the
 "/etc/passwd"
file..??  I recently discovered that I have no idea how to stop read
access to this file...???  Well, read access yes, but copying no... 
 I
was hoping that linux would treat copying the same as it would treat
 the
reading of a file....????

Thanks guys,
Seeya...
Trevor...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: Dries van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Philipp Poeml wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I got an nice notebook with a 386SX-20, 60MB HDD, Floppy Drive,
 VGA, and
> ONLY 1MB of Ram. And I don't know, where I may buy more Ram for it,
> because it is old and it seems to be special Cards which I have to
 place
> on the mainboard.
> What I would like to know is, what Linux I could install on it.
> I just want to run a VI to edit my TeX Files and perhaps have a
 small
> internet connection via ppp or plip to read my e-mail.
> Is ELKS the only stuff that would run on it?

ELKS is great, but it doesn't do anythin yet.
Network support is something in the far distant future. Editing files
 is
about the only thing you can do.

Groeten,
Dries 





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Auto-monitor a process
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear All,


I have a linux server and the web server is apache.
There is a form for the users to submit and get some information
and say, action='/cgi-bin/showdata.cgi'.
But sometimes the showdata.cgi will not terminate and consumed
a lot of resources. How can I write a script to monitor this
showdata.cgi
such that if it has been running for a long time, just kill that
process.
Could you give me some idea or sample code about this ? Shall I use
cron job ?
How can I know that how long has that process been running ?
Thank you very much.


Raymond


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISA nic cards?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not all of these cards are supported, most of them are.


Keith wrote:

> One more question: Would linux have any problems recognizing an ISA
 NIC?
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISA nic cards?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


One more question: Would linux have any problems recognizing an ISA
 NIC?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dat drive detection problem
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David E. Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having problems detecting mt DAT drive in my Compaq Proliant
 server with
> RedHat 6.0.     Has anyone else had this problem?   How do I fix
 it?

Repost your specific hardware, including both tape and SCSI adapter
 if
any, commands and error messages.  Idiot question:  do you have a
 SCSI
kernel driver loaded?  Post output of "lsmod".

One of the following should report something useful (run as root):

    # mt status
    # mt status -f /dev/tape
    # mt status -f /dev/nst0
    # mt status -f /dev/st0

Typical output:

    $ mt status
    mt: /dev/tape: No medium found

...well, looks like I've got a device, but no media <g>.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:30 GMT

From: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the
 linux
swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux
 partition on
your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my
 PC--what
would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If it
 matters
any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either
 CorelLinux or
Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that
 "linux
ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can
 recognize
the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I
 can also
install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be appreciated.
 Thanks.

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From: quiney,.philip.[hal02:hh00:exch]@chewtoy.com
Subject: Zoom Modems
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lewis wrote:
> 
> I am looking at purchasing a Zoom External Modem, it says that it
 is
> PNP and works with windows and mac's. I was of the opinion all
 Ext's
> work with Linux, any ideas. Thanks.
Hi

AKAIK it should work. I think the pnp bit refers to the fact that it
 can
identify itself to Windows when queried - the only thing you need to
worry about is if it is a 'winmodem'. Being external it shouldn't be.

One thing to try is to make it a condition of sale that it works with
Linux - sometimes the sales droid will understand - the trick is to
 get
the same person if things go wrong.  We did this with some Family
 Tree
software - we had a requirement that it cope with brother/sister from
one family marrying sister/brother from another (it is not incest!!).
This tripped up several of the cheap programs quite nicely.

FWIW I use a cheap USR Sportster external with Linux and set the
 machine
up with an aged 14.4k Zoom before transferring the Sportster from a
windows machine.

HTH

Regards

Phil Q

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: getting software
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,

> How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software? For
> example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the web
 with
> altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can be
> trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux
 software
> that I'm not aware of?

RedHat users install Debian, then run 

  $ apt-get install xemacs pine

Debian users skip the installation process <g>.


If you don't care to walk on over to the side of the white hats quite
 yet,
vendors tend to have download packages on their websites, or mirrors.
ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors is a good start.

Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) is another good general index.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apropos nothing
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,

> After installing RH6.2 I found that "apropos" never returns
 anything.
> What is wrong? Should I create some sort of index/database or
 something?
> How?

    $ echo "nice updatedb" | at now

...as root also works.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: changing monitor settings
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,

> How can I change the monitor resolution and other settings AFTER
> installation of Linux? (Through GUI, if at all possible)

What specific settings do you want to change?
What distribution of Linux are you running?

You can always edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file manually, toward the
bottom of it you should have some lines which look like those below.
You can append other resolution settings (provided you've got the
modelines for them) such as 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024,
 etc.

Better yet, you can run a utility (XF86Setup is my preferred tool)
 which
lets you configure X.  You may have to install this as it's not
 standard
with most RedHat and RPM-based Linuxes.

    Section "Screen"
       Driver          "Accel"
       Device          "Primary Card"
       Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
       DefaultColorDepth 32
       SubSection "Display"
          Depth        8
          Modes        "1152x864"
       EndSubSection
       SubSection "Display"
          Depth        16
          Modes        "1152x864"
       EndSubSection
       SubSection "Display"
          Depth        24
          Modes        "1152x864"
       EndSubSection
       SubSection "Display"
          Depth        32
          Modes        "1152x864"
       EndSubSection
    EndSection


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: database benchmarks
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:47:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| 
| Anyone know where I can find some tpc (www.tpc.org) benchmarks for
| databases which run under linux, eg. oracle, sybase, mysql,...?
| Speed and cost comparisons is what I'm looking for.
| 
| I couldn't find any linux benchmarks at www.tcp.org
| I'm very curious to see just how these dbms' stack up on linux
| versus other operating systems, eg. windows, solaris, etc.

Considering the fact that dbms's on Linux use regular files i.s.o.
 raw disks,
I think the outcome will be no surprise. Linux will get a (very) low
ranking...

Koos Pol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: getting software
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software?
 For
> > example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the
 web
with
> > altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can
 be
> > trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux
 software
> > that I'm not aware of?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch
> >
> > Wroot
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> If you have the rpmfind package installed, you can type
>
> rpmfind --apropos xemacs
>
> and it will find packages suitable for your distribution and
 version
> if possible. It works of the database at http://rufus.w3.org. In
 your
> particular case, pine is part of the standard RedHat distribution
 cd
> and Xemacs is part of their supplementary 'powertools' collection.

Surprisingly, Pine isn't part of my RH6.2 (I downloaded CD image) -
"whereis" doesn't find Pine (but finds emacs, e.g.)

Wroot


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: Matthew Matchura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and
 I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most
 people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2
 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Red Hat wanted to use entirely GNU based software.  This includes teh
underlying libs.

KDE is QT based, proprietory/commercial.

GNOME is GTK based, entirely GNU.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: what is jre and arch??
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: Sam Wun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[oracle@swun linux]$ ./runIns.sh\
>
/usr/local/jre/bin/jre: arch: command not found
/usr/local/jre/bin/../bin/checkVersions: arch: command not found

I am not quite understand the above error.
can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks
SAm.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a server with 512MB of memory and still have a (small) swap
 partition.
The mere existence of a swap file/partition will make things run
 faster (the
technical explanation can be left to others).  This partition does
 not need to
be a primary partition.
You can use FAT (or maybe even FAT32) for your Linux partition - this
 is the
'umsdos' stuff, but why should you want to?  If you have a partition
 dedicated
to Linux then it makes sense for it to be EXT2.


Keith wrote:

> Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the
 linux
> swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux
 partition on
> your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my
 PC--what
> would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If
 it matters
> any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either
 CorelLinux or
> Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that
 "linux
> ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can
 recognize
> the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I
 can also
> install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be
 appreciated. Thanks.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dynamic IP & mail server
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I have a DSL service with dynamic IP address, how do I setup
a mail server in my linux. Thank you.


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From: quiney,.philip.[hal02:hh00:exch]@chewtoy.com
Subject: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Lonni J. Friedman" wrote:
> 
> Hendrix wrote:
> >
> > 2. Is there a method for keeping a user from copying the
 "/etc/passwd"
> > file..??  I recently discovered that I have no idea how to stop
 read
> > access to this file...???  Well, read access yes, but copying
 no...  I
> > was hoping that linux would treat copying the same as it would
 treat the
> > reading of a file....????
> 
> If you're using shadow passwords then this is a non issue.  Most
 modern
> distro's use shadow passwords, which do not allow any user to read
 the
> file.
> 
This is not true. Shadow passwords remove the requirement that the
encrypted password be in /etc/passwd. Users *MUST* have read access
 to
/etc/passwd (yes that does include being able to copy it) otherwise
 all
sorts of things will break - like being able to change password for
yourself or su to another user. Also you won't be able to login, as
 the
default shell for a user is obtained from /etc/passwd - it could have
 a
default I suppose - I have never tried it.

The encrypted passwords go in /etc/shadow which is only readable by
root. 

Regards

Phil Q

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NYC LOCAL: LXNY at PC EXPO in The Javits 26-29 June 2000
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LXNY has a booth in the Pavilion of Free Software.  Maddog Hall and
Mark Bolzern will be keynote speakers Thursday morning 29 June 2000.

If you are lucky you may be able to register for free for all
 exhibits,
including the keynotes, and get a discount on conferences by going to

http://www.pcexpo.com/planner/registration.cfm

and using the magic word P2AQ for exhibits and the magic word C2AD
 for
conferences.  Otherwise just use the magic words at the show.

Visit the LXNY booth!  Michael Dell and Illiad and Bill Rozas and
Linus Torvalds already have!  Volunteer to sit at the booth and
assault^Weducate passersby!  Kevin, Greg, David, Michael, and Lillian
already have!

Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux, Quake2 and a PS/2 Mouse
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:31 GMT

From: "Ross Goodley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanx, that's sorted it ;-)
"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:43:04 +0100, Ross Goodley
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >I have a similar prob with Q2 and mice with my 3DFx Card, run with
svgalib,
> >or under X... mouse works fine. Run with mesa or glide... no
 mouse.. zip
> >nada.... any ideas anyone?
>
> Did you try 'killall gpm' first?  I haven't run q2 since RH 5.2
 (that
> drive is not in my computer at the moment), but a PS2 mouse worked
 fine
> with a 3dfx Monster 3D.  I used my Glidepad for aiming.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISA nic cards?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:32 GMT

From: Dries van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Keith wrote:

> 
> One more question: Would linux have any problems recognizing an ISA
 NIC?

Depends totally on what card. An el cheapo ne-2000 clone will usually
 be
recognized, but there is a whole host of others out there. Try to
 find out
what chipset sits on the thing and look it up in the linux hardware
support lists.

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Groeten,
Dries 





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:32 GMT

From: Dries van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Keith wrote:

> 
> Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the
 linux
> swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux
 partition on
> your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my
 PC--what
> would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If
 it matters
> any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either
 CorelLinux or
> Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that
 "linux
> ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can
 recognize
> the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I
 can also
> install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be
 appreciated. Thanks.

First of all, we're not talking about file formats here, but about
filesystems. There are numerous filesystems supported by Linux. You
 can
also easily boot from a DOS partition, but if you have a dedicated
 linux
partition anyway, ext2 is really the way to go. First of all because
 it is
faster then umsdos and second because when your windows machine it is
effected with a virus, it's much more likely that it will take a
 umsdos
partition with it then a ext2 partition, because windows doesn't even
 see
ext2 partitions.

Then the swap part. It doesn't really matter how much memory you
 have, you
still need swap space. This is because linux will stuff all the
 memory
that you're not using at the moment with buffered versions of things
 on
your disk, so that you don't have to access your disk so often. This
greatly speeds up operation. If your memory is full (and with an
 uptime of
a day or so, this is going to happen) and you start a new big app,
 your
harddisk suddenly has to do a lot of stuff and so does your memory.
 Stuff
needs to be put into your memory and stuff needs to get out of there.
 It
would seem that it would be smartest to dump the buffers. The problem
 is
that some of the buffer might be modified. If they have, they have to
 be
safed to disk. This is a lot of work that has to be done at once. I
 once
forgot to set up a swap partition. (In fact I told linux the wrong
partition, but the error swooshed by so fast during bootup that I
 didn't
notice). This has the effect that if I started X for instance. It
 would
crash immidiately, but when I started it again it would work. When I
installed the swap partition correctly, everything was okay. Now the
kernel can simply swap stuff out without looking if it has to be
 synced to
disk. It will still treat everything is if it were memory.

With you amount of memory, I would say that a 100 megs of swap would
 be an
overkill. The rule of thumb seems to be that you need twice as much
 swap
as physical memory, but that's from the days where we had 8 megs
memory. Nowadays, in my opinion, you need a buffer about the size of
 the
largest app you'll be wanting to sqeeuze in. I have 96 megs physical
 and
100 megs swap. The swap partition remains largely unused (few megs
used).

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Dries 





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:32 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:51:46 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Another couple of questions...*s*
>
>1. How can I set permissions so that other users, besides root, can
>execute a certain given program...???  I thought about making a
 group,
>probably called pppusers (or something equivalent)...  And making
 that
>group own the pppd file, but I don't see how that would be any
 different
>from setting rwx access for everyone on the pppd program
 itself...??? 
>If I set the "other" permission on the pppd program, and all scripts
>used to access this daemon, to read,write, and execute, then
 shouldn't
>they be able to execute the pppd script...????
>

Everybod can already run pppd;  the pppd does, however, need to be
 suid
root to work if invoked from a non-root user.

BTW, don't give write access to system programs to anyone, except
 root.



Villy



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BAD MAGIC NUMBER IN SUPERBLOCK
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:32 GMT

From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have tried that, and at least 10 successions of 8193, such as
16385,etc,etc, all to no avail...I reread the posts concerning this
 problem
and did check my partition table using fdisk :p and it shows my hda7
 being a
valid linux native, starting at 3190, ending 3381.

e2fsck -f -b 1 /dev/hda7 

Try this - It worked for me when 8193 didn't
cheers 
John
-- 
MWj2 <-> SuSE_Linux_6_0 2_2_5 gcc_egcs-2.91.60 




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