Linux-Misc Digest #35, Volume #25 Mon, 3 Jul 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help:Problem Installing RH6.2 from Harddisk (Homer Jay)
Re: Debian 2.1 upgrade failed !!! (John Hasler)
Re: Can't switch to terminal-- SOLVED! ("Amiri Jones")
Re: Can't access my /dev/hda1 partition ("David ..")
Re: We are selling software (Rob Kroll)
doomed with lilo (peter pilsl)
ppp/CVS weirdness (Allin Cottrell)
Re: newsreader for Linux? (Steffen Kluge)
Re: newsreader for Linux? (Steffen Kluge)
Re: RH6.1 shutdown: how to add my own script? (Bit Twister)
Monitoring Modem Speed??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: newsreader for Linux? (Johan Kullstam)
Move my disk from /dev/hda to /dev/hdb (Gerry Snyder)
Re: Compact Flash Mem for mp3 player (RCA Lyra) (Dave Brown)
Re: Corel PhotoPaint (Dave Brown)
Re: Maby a dumb file question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows Media Player for Linux??? (David Steuber)
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From: Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help:Problem Installing RH6.2 from Harddisk
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:14:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Homer Jay wrote:
>
> > > I spend much time downloading the entire
> > > RPMS and base directory of RedHat6.2.
> > > I am sure the directory structure is correct
> > > as what RedHat demands. The boot disk
> > > does work, and I encountered the problem
> > > when the setup program was gonna reading
> > > the package informations, it got a signal 11
> > > and aborted. It does not give any more
> > > information. I would like to know what
> > > can this problem be caused by.
> >
> > The sig11 can indicate bad ram or, far less often, a bad motherboard.
> > You can download memtest86 to thoroughly test your RAM. If it is good
> > then something else is happening. If the motherboard is bad I would
> > guess you'd get other problems as well and I hear that this is very
> > rarely the cause anyway. I suggest two things:
> > 1) Verify all the files are the correct size. FTP was not designed
> > to download multiple files. Strangely, we _all_ use it for that
> > anyway. (You'd think we'd have come up with a better way, but nooooo.)
> > 2) Check you ram with memtest86.
> > You will want to write a shell script or download a utiltiy to check
> > the file sizes for you. Doing this yourself would just take way too
> > long. You might also try turning off your cache memory. I.e., from
> > GCC-HOWTO:
> >
> > In short, it's the pickiest RAM tester
> > commonly available. If you can't duplicate the bug --- if it doesn't
> > stop in the same place when you restart the compilation --- it's
> > almost certainly a problem with your hardware (CPU, memory,
> > motherboard or cache).
> >
> > You could try pulling some of your memory to see if it works then,
> > but the memtest86 should detect any problems and make that unecessary
> > (unless a prolem _is_ found). You might try checking redhat's
> > bugzilla archive. I located a problem with installation that way
> > once. I hope it works out for you.
> Aren't there better answers to these questions? Many users have installed
> other OS's w/o a bad ram problem. I know those systems are kluding, but to
> tell someone that the OS isn't smart enough to come up with a workaround
> ins't a very good solution to his problem.
Then put your money where your *mouth* is and provide one. The
original post asked:
> > > information. I would like to know what__________________________
> > > can this problem be caused by.__________________________________
I answered that question. You, on the other hand, have done _nothing_
to help, unless making uniformed smartass remarks counts as "helping".
As for "Many users have installed other OS's w/o a bad ram problem",
so what? How does that apply here? If Microcrap Windoze allows an
install when the RAM is bad, what do you think's going to happen
down the road at importune moments? Ker-rash! Linux by its nature
makes a far more intensive use of the hardware, and at least it gives
_some_ indication as to what the problem might be, unlike M$. (Unless
you consider a Windows blue screen informative.)
BTW, it's "kludgy", not "kluding" and "OS's" show posession, not the
plural. "Aren't there better answers to these questions", you asked.
Well, aren't there better things for you to do junior? Like head to
the library? See especially Pope, Alexander: "A little learning is a
dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian 2.1 upgrade failed !!!
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:50:42 GMT
> So it appears that, in its wisdom, apt-get did not upgrade the
> kernel. Strange!
No. It wasn't supposed to upgrade the kernel. Each kernel version is a
seperate package. It is up to you to decide which one to use.
> Having checked the list of packages, which are still on the drive, there
> is no mention of kernel image.
Correct.
> The only package with the word 'kernel' in it is kernel-package.
Yes. Read up on it to learn the easy Debian way to compile and install a
kernel. You will need an appropriate kernel-source package.
> I though that I might have been able to cure the problem,...
The way to cure the "problem" is to either compile a kernel (I recommend
that you use kernel-package) or download and install a kernel-image.
> I do not, however, understand what went wrong...
You failed to understand that upgrading the version of Debian that you have
installed does not imply upgrading the version of the kernel that you have
installed. Confusing, I know, but there is good reason for this.
> Any observations, commiserations or suggestions would be welcome.
Either download and use kernel-package to install kernel-source-2.2.14 or
download and install kernel-image-2,2.14.
A better place for this question would have been the debian-user mailing
list. Go to www.debian.org to subscribe.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: "Amiri Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't switch to terminal-- SOLVED!
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:25:20 -0400
Never mind.... I figured it out (and boy do I feel stupid!)... turns out
the problem was with the keyboard. When you press the Ctrl key, it sends
some random string of characters. I discovered the problem when I switched
to my other machine and encountered the same kind of problem. Changed the
keyboard, and the problem's gone.
Amiri Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8jgj4j$a9h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running Gnome, with Enlightenment as my window manager, if that
> matters. My problem is this: In the past, I used to be able to go from
the
> Gnome login prompt to a standard text login prompt with the Ctrl-Alt-F1
key
> sequence. All of a sudden now, it doesn't work anymore. Nothing has
> changed on this system; I've installed no new software or updated any
> existing software. Does anybody know what might be causing this problem,
or
> how to correct it?
>
>
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Can't access my /dev/hda1 partition
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 19:21:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I've been running a intel p3 box with windows and mandrake linux 7.0
> side by side for a month or two now. It was missing the development
> tools so I reinserted the CD and did an upgrade. But when that was done
> and the computer rebooted, I couldn't find windows in my LILO boot. So
> i went into my lilo.conf file and found out that it wasn't listed there.
> So i typed in other = /dev/hda1 and all the other junk that goes along
> with it. Saved the buffer. Then I typed in lilo and I got this error:
> "first sector of /dev/hda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature". Then
> if I click on my disk 0 icon on my desktop (an alias to the windows
> drive) it says: "WARNING - mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
> superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted file systems". I did an
> fdisk and the partution shows up under /dev/hda1. Now, when I do fdisk
> is: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 3328. There is
> nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in
> certain setups cause problems with:
> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
> (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
>
> Next, I tried using my windows 98 boot disk and when I went into C:> and
> did a "dir" it said couldn't read media type on drive c (or something
> very similar to that). Did a fdisk /MBR, and restarted and now said
> "Missing Operating System." So I rebuilt the linux master boot record
> and I was at least able to once again go into linux which is what I am
> using now. I'm not trying to bombard you with all my problems, but
> hopefully the more info I give the easier it will be for someone to help
> me with this problem. I really need access to my windows partition, and
> if anyone can help me once again see my windows files....if even just to
> be able to back them up on CD's or Jazz disks or whatever, please please
> please lend a helping hand. I apprecaite your time with this lengthy
> letter and can't wait to hear from someone;)
If you have a linux & windoz bootdisk you can use the windoz bootdisk
and do a fdisk /MBR that will repair the MBR. Then after you get it to
boot windoz again you can use the linux boot disk to boot linux and then
run lilo again. That should fix it unless you wiped out windoz.
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: We are selling software
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Kroll)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:27:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Vanstory) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>We are selling software
>for lowest price in the world (40$-140$)
>
>Check it out at http://www.cdnow2000.com immediately
Gee, there isn't a Linux distribution out there that can hold a candle to
that price.
Up yours, spamboy.
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: doomed with lilo
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:39:32 GMT
I�ve a running system and I want to put out the 1,2GB-harddisk and migrate
it with all the linux on it to a different computer. This different system
has this awful 504MB-bios-restriction and although I played around all the
day I could not manage to boot it. (Actually when I boot from suse6.4-
rescue-disk with its own kernel I can the continue booting with my root-
partition, but thats not what I want)
Symptoms:
Lilo always stops after showing LI, no matter if I boot from the disk or
from the diskette I created (which also references the kernel on the disk)
according to a howto this means the following:
LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
installer.
But I didnt move boot.b and geometry is set exactely as shown up in
/proc/ide/hda/geometry->physical on the running machine.
my lilo.conf is as simple as possible and /boot and / are within the magic
504MB. In fact, I moved this partitions to the front, so they occupy hda1
& hda3 now.
lilo.conf:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14
label=linux2.2.14
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
and lilo.floppy (from the lilo-minihowto)
boot = /dev/fd0
map = /mnt/floppy/lilo-map
delay = 100
ramdisk = 0
timeout = 100
prompt
disk = /dev/hda # 1,2 GB IDE, BIOS only sees first 500 MB.
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14
root = /dev/hda3
label = linux
read-only
why does this #%$&-disk not boot on the second machine ??
thanks,
peter
--
pilsl@
goldfisch.at
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ppp/CVS weirdness
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:30:31 -0400
I've recently seen a weird problem with my ppp connection to the
net, which seems to be associated with using CVS.
I have a 28.8k modem (elderly but serviceable) and an Internet
connection using prserv.net (formerly IBM Global Network). For many
months my connection has been fine. For reference, ping
round-trips to my university's servers have been on the order of
200-300ms, with minimal packet loss. I'm running Linux 2.2.12.
In the last week or so I've seen horrible degradation of my net
connection, to the point where ping round-trips take 6000-9000ms,
with packet loss upward of 50 percent.
I noticed this particularly when using cvs (I have a project I'm
working on both a home and at my office). Where previously a cvs
update or commit had taken the expected time for transferring the
given volume of files at max modem speed, now cvs just sits there
for 15 mins, 30 mins,... It eventually completes but takes orders
of magnitude longer than before.
The really odd thing is that these "bad" cvs sessions seem to
destroy my connection for other uses too. I've seen this scenario
several times:
1) Dial up, establish connection.
2) Try pinging, read mail, surf the web. Everything OK.
3) Run CVS. Takes an age.
4) Try pinging: horrible times. Try the web: horrible slow
loading of pages.
5) Drop the connection and dial up again. Everything OK.
6) Run CVS. Go back to 4.
Is there any way this could make sense? I haven't changed anything
I can think of in my setup recently. I've been running the same
kernel and the same cvs version, on the same machines, for months.
Is there anything the ISP could have changed that could have
produced this effect? How do I fix it?
Thanks.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
Date: 4 Jul 2000 00:33:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Again... define definitive.
>Elm for me.
>> While some might claim the above is just my opinion, they're wrong.
>Rubbish. Of course it's JUST you're opinion. If anything else were the case,
>why do all the other news/e-mail/editors EXIST?
>Answer: Because other people think THEY are the best.
>> It's a provable result of the basic structure of space-time. String
>> theory and all that.
>You must be from a different quantum reality from me... I wonder at which
>point in time our two timelines diverged?
Both of you must have diverged into something unspeakable. For
every carbon or silicon based life form it should be clear as
[your favourite clear thing] that only trn/vi can possibly be
used for reading/posting news.
;-))
Cheers
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
Date: 4 Jul 2000 00:36:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <GU585.2921$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Many of the machines I use don't have the horsepower to run
>emacs.
Good point. There are whole working Linux distributions on a
single floppy, has anybody ever managed to fit a working emacs
on a floppy? ;-)
Cheers
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: RH6.1 shutdown: how to add my own script?
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:56:11 GMT
That would be my recommended method.
Next release you load your script, set the link, and away you go.
I would probably put the link in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d, but this is not
Micro$oft, you Do get to have it your way. :)
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 00:56:23 GMT, UnderDog <UnderDog> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I have a bash script that I want to call each time shutdown -h is run.
>I have toyed with adding a script in /etc/rc.d/rc0.d to call my
>script, but I'm not sure if that is the best or easiest way to go. I
>am running RH6.1
>
--
The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monitoring Modem Speed???
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:57:28 GMT
Does anyone know of a utility that will determine the modem connection
speed? I would like a command line one(non-gui)..
Thanx
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 01:15:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge) writes:
> In article <GU585.2921$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Many of the machines I use don't have the horsepower to run
> >emacs.
>
> Good point. There are whole working Linux distributions on a
> single floppy, has anybody ever managed to fit a working emacs
> on a floppy? ;-)
yes, that tom root/boot guy.
<URL:http://www.toms.net/rb/>
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Gerry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Move my disk from /dev/hda to /dev/hdb
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:29:06 -0700
Hello, gurus!
I apologize, but for some perverted reason I want to install Win2000 on
my linux box. Mostly to run under VMware, but also as a separate boot
OS.
W2000 seems to need to write some files to what it thinks of as the C:
drive, and I cannot give it a suitable partition on hda without messing
up linux there. I know linux is smart enough to be able to boot from
anywhere.
Therefore I plan to switch my current drive to /dev/hdb and put a spare
drive in as /dev/hda .
My idea is to make another /etc/fstab with all the hda's changed to
hdb's, called fstab.hdb, and copy the original to fstab.hda . Then do
something similar with lilo.config but have one version with one version
each with all files/partitions on hda and hdb, with (at least) versions
of the latter with writing the boot sector on hda, hdb, and fd0 .
I know I need to think more about the transition process, but are there
other files I need to worry about?
TIA (and references to FM's welcome),
Gerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Compact Flash Mem for mp3 player (RCA Lyra)
Date: 3 Jul 2000 20:28:25 -0500
On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 00:53:21 GMT, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Dave Brown would say:
>>Can anyone give me a pointer toward info about Linux support for
>>writing to Compact Flash memory modules, particularly as used in
>>RCA Lyra player. The player comes with Windows software and a
>>...
>There's a PCMCIA card that I've used to "mount" a CF module on my
>laptop; this allows treating the CF as if it were an extra disk drive.
>...
>The SANDisk "ImageMate CompactFlash USB / Compact Flash Reader
>SDDR-31" is, according to the <http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/>
>USB-for-Linux site, now supported, treating the CF as a SCSI device.
Thanks for the info. I picked up the Sandisk PCMCIA adapter, which
allows me to plug the CF module into the adapter into my laptop. I
can mount the module as a vfat filesystem.
The Lyra software (derived from Real Jukebox) records to the module in a
modified mp3 format, which only Lyra recognizes. So I have to load
the module with the Win software, then put the module on my laptop and
copy the encoded files off. After building a library of tunes, I'll
be able to load up a module when I'm on the road from my laptop.
Too bad the large-capacity CF modules are sooo expensive. But this
is a reasonable workaround.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Date: 3 Jul 2000 20:33:43 -0500
On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 00:47:45 GMT, John G. Sandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Has anyone succeeded in downloading Corel PhotoPaint? My download bombed
>toward the end - now when I try to download again, I get a message
>"Incorrect Password" ???
I downloaded it from their ftp server, but it took several tries (used
FileRunner, which does "resume FTPs").
You didn't mention how you tried to download it, or from where. Corel's
server seemed to by a typical "anonymous ftp" server.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Maby a dumb file question
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:37:37 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> Hi all. Cant seam to remove a file that was placed on my system by a
> hacker.
> cant chmod it to anything cant chown it to anyone cant do anything to
> it..
> I need to remove it so I can install a new rpm that wants to replace
> that file...
> any suggestions
> the mode on the file is 0110
chmod 777 <filename>
Then you should be able to remove it as root.
However, as the hacker left one, chances are he left more and the only safe
thing to do is reinstall...
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Subject: Re: Windows Media Player for Linux???
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 02:00:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner) writes:
' Not directly, no. Hopefully those outside the US who decide to write
' such software will be allowed to do so, but such projects have been
' interfered with before.
It seems like it would be better to create a *free* competing format.
Isn't PNG gaining credibility? Why not a free streaming media format?
How much stuff can be stollen from MPEG without running into patent
problems?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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