Linux-Misc Digest #35, Volume #19 Sun, 14 Feb 99 20:13:11 EST
Contents:
AMD 5x86 setup for sale, great for linux (Jason Bowen)
Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Rowan Volvo)
Re: RPM says Data Type 9 not supported (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: giving a talk on linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: This X server is just not working... Any idea? (Ben Russo)
Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders... (Robert Heller)
Re: KDE doesn't start (Ben Russo)
symbolic link permissions (Eric Goforth)
Re: Linux suxxxx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits! (Ryan Cumming)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John Fieber)
Re: Linux suxxxx (pato)
Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits! (Ben Russo)
Re: Can't check mail ("Stephen Thomas")
changing resolution?? (Cameron Fraser)
Re: Linux suxxxx (pato)
Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Hans Wolters)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
Crossposted-To:
misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.systems,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards
Subject: AMD 5x86 setup for sale, great for linux
Date: 15 Feb 1999 00:25:30 GMT
M-Tech R418 motherboard http://www.mtiusa.com/r418.htm
AMD 5x86
4x36(16 mb parity) 60ns simm
8x36(32 mb parity) 60ns simm
Diamond Stealth 2 meg video card based on S3 trio 64V+
Had a buyer for it case an all one time but they backed out. Make me an
offer via email.
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rowan Volvo)
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:10:39 GMT
In article <fW1w2.197$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Southam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Here we go again. Look people, I know that Winblows is a piece of crap - M$
>still hasn't pried the DOS kernel out of the thing. I've been in IT support
>since Windows 3.0, so I know the architecture inside. As such, I hate
>Windows with all the same venom and vitriol as the rest of you . But, it is
>a necessary evil (for now).
>You expect a CEO to learn e-mail on Linux? Right. His time costs about $200
>an hour - too valuable to spend learning a new OS, when Windows is ready and
>able to handle at least this simple chore ( for a while anyway, until it
>chews the FAT table on the disk and explodes like a roman candle) and he
>mostly knows how to use it. I wish everyone in here would drop the "holier
>than thou" attitude. You all seem to either have a superiority complex or
>want to divide the world into technology haves and have nots.
>
so... how stable would x-windows be when the CEO demands root priviledges?
--
Never fly in an airplane that was designed by an optimist
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: RPM says Data Type 9 not supported
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:06:01 GMT
David Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I am running a Red Hat 5.0 systen with rpm 2.2.7, cpio 2.4.2.
>When trying to load any package from my new Red Hat 5.2 disk I get the
>message
>Data Type 9 not supported
[...]
Your rpm executable needs to be updated .
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't mungle your address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: giving a talk on linux
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:14:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joseph Zieniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I belong to a computer club that has 98% IBM compatible (micro$oft)
> members. The other 2% is linux. I would like to give a talk on the
> virtues of linux. Is there any info on the internet on how to go about
> this? Is there a list of sites where you can accomplish this? I'm sure
> if I presented it right, I can convince some members at least to try
> linux .
>
There's a slideshow presentation online at
http://www.tir.com/~sorceror/mdlug/preso.html
which you could download and use.
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: This X server is just not working... Any idea?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:20:22 -0500
"Edward F. VanderBush III" wrote:
>
> Hi.
> I am running REdhat 5.2 on a PII with a Intel 3D express AGP 8
> megs gaphics card. I installed REdhats special server for this card. (I
> had to install Linux without any of the X components so it would
> recognize the new XBF server) I have also installed the two font packs
> (75 + 100 DPi but nothing else X related) Any ideas what this could
> be? I have included a script typescript of the server output. PLease
> clue me in here. Thanks so much, Please email me if possible as I need
> this server up so I can install a design tool I need for a class
> project. Thanks,
>
> ED
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Script started on Sat Feb 13 01:58:05 1999
> [root@ bin]# XBF_i740
>
> XBF_i740 Version 1.0.0 / X Window System
>
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
>
> Release Date: December 21 1998
> <BLAH BLAH BLAH removed> pt done on Sat Feb 13 01:58:12 1999
Good info. The problem looks like your FontPath settings.
Try this. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config and verify that the directories
listed with FontPath are actually in existence.
If the are no then comment them out.
-Ben.
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Subject: Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 13 Feb 1999 22:19:08 -0500
"Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:57:16 +0000, wrote :
"DP> I am a little confused about the Linux restriction that LILO cannot
"DP> work with a system that exceeds 1024 cylinders. Does this mean that the
"DP> hard drive used to boot from cannot exceed 1024 cylinders, or just that
"DP> LILO cannot exist on a partition that exceeds 1024 cylinders?
The "1024 cylinder" problem is really an (older) BIOS problem. LILO
uses the BIOS to load the kernel (and RAMDISK) into memory. The drivers
in linux proper have no problem with file systems upto something well over 9gig
(not sure where the exact cutoff is).
"DP>
"DP> If the latter is that case (and I have a hunch that it is)... what
"DP> is a good size to set your "/boot" partition to... to allow for growth
"DP> in the size of the Linux kernel in the future?
The kernel itself won't ever be over 1meg -- esp. modern (2.x) kernels,
since most of the drivers and stuff are set up as modules, loaded by
kerneld, not LILO.
A good rule-of-thumb is 5 meg for a /boot partition or 64meg for a root
partition. What *I* do is something like this when I install Linux on
the workstations we use in the CVRL here at UMass:
64 meg root partition (/). This includes /boot. Note: RedHat puts the
kernel in /boot, Slackware puts the kernel in the root partition and
does not have a /boot directory at all, so going with a "small" root
partition works for *all* distributions. This also makes rescue operations
less painful, since there is generally enough in the base root
partition (/bin, /sbin, /lib) to fix just about any problem with the
rest of the system and since the root partition is effectively
read-only (rarely modified), it is unlikely to get trashed.
64 or 128 swap
1gig /usr
64meg /var (all those damn log files!)
and whatever is left becomes /home.
(on my home box I also have a 256meg /var/spool, since I run Fidonet and
have a /var/spool/news directory that gets a mild bit of beating on)
So long as the 64meg root partition is wholy below the 1024th cylinder,
there are no problems. Since these are generally Linux-only systems and
the root partition is the first partition, it is really hard to violate
this rule (you need a really wonky disk geometry).
Note: the newer BIOSes re-map the disk geometry so that there are always
less then 1024 cylinders, unless the disk is over 8gig in size and they
run out of heads (255?).
"DP>
"DP> Steve
"DP>
"DP>
"DP>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE doesn't start
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:13:55 -0500
kAos wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I installed KDE under Red Hat 5.2 on my machine. I installed everything in the
> prescribed sequence (qt, qtlib, (qt-devel), kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase and a
> bunch of apps), using rpm (so it checks dependencies). It did install with no
> probs. Then I ran install script (for one user), set all the environmental
> variables I could find a reference to (PATH, QTDIR, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, KDEDIR):
> So my .profile:
>
> QTDIR=/usr/X11R6
> #QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt
> #QTDIR=/usr/lib
> PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
> MANPATH=$QTDIR/man:$MANPATH
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH
> export QTDIR PATH MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH LIBRARY_PATH
> export CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH
>
> But when I start 'startx' (or 'startkde'), the X server starts okay, but then
> dies, and gives me the following error messages:
>
> kfmkpanelkwmsoundkrootwmkaudioserver: error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti13QRangeControl
> : error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti7QBuffer
> : error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti6QFrame
> : error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti6QFrame
> : error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti7QWidget
> kwm: error in loading shared libraries
> /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti13QRangeControl
>
> I thought the above symbols/functions are in the qt library, but setting
> 'QTDIR' in my .profile did not make any difference.
>
> Does anyone have a solution/suggestion? I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
> Since I'll not be around the net for a few days, please cc
> messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks,
> Akos
>
> --
> Change 'SMALLHAND' to 'BIGFOOT' in my email address.
cat /etc/ld.so.conf
There should be a line in there that says "/opt/kde/lib"
There should also be a line that says "/usr/X11R6/lib"
If there aren't then add them.
run "ldconfig" as root.
exit out of your login session and log back in.
Then try and run startx.
-Ben.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:09:23 +0000
From: Eric Goforth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: symbolic link permissions
I've exported the address book from a Windows 95 contact manager type
software into a comma delimited file that I've saved in my Windows 95
partition. I've made a symbolic line to it using ln -s and chown'ed it
so that I can view it while non-superuser. I figured that I could write
a perl script to view/manipulate but when I open it in emacs I'm warned
that it is read only.
Permissions look like:
[eric@localhost eric]$ ls -l pho*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric root 30 Feb 13 10:17 phonenos ->
/dosc/windows
/desktop/phonenos
The man page for symlink had the following on permissions and symbolic
links:
The permissions of a symbolic link are irrelevant; the
ownership is
ignored when following the link, but is checked when removal or
renam-
ing of the link is requested and the link is in a directory
with the
sticky bit set.
I can't find anything about permissions and symbolic links in the man
page for ln. Is there anyway that I can write to this file while
non-root?
--
To respond via e-mail please remove what's between Eric and Goforth in
my return e-mail address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:34:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> mmmm.... with thousands of non-CNE's non-programmers successfully
> installing various disro's of Linux every day you don't imagine that it
> could be you, could you? Na...
>
Yes, that is interesting, especially since Novell documentation is its biggest
weakness.
Odd how people say Linux isn't documented. If they are not documentation then
just what does one call man pages, doc files, how-tos, mini how-tos, the
distribution documentation...
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From: Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits!
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:25:15 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I wonder if anyone can help me? I've just got this nice new machine with an
> ATI 3D Rage IIc graphics card (Mach64GT, Internal DAC Type) and can I get it
> to run XFree under RedHat 5.2 (apollo)?
>
My friend ran a ATI Rage II fine under apollo with the accelerated Mach64 server.
U might want to try a few servers (SVGA, Mach32, etc.) or even the framebuffer
server with 2.2 (slow as hell, and my framebuffer is even Matrox accelerated)
>
> Can I heck.
>
> Whatever options I try, I get a lovely screen which is fine vertically-wise,
> but there are 4 repeated images horizontally.
>
My wild guess is that those 4 horizontal screens might represent the 4 colour
channels (RGBA). I dunno.
>
> All I ask is for 1024x768 in 8bpp on my ADI Microscan 5P. My previous card
> (Expercolor DSV) worked fine so I know that it isn't monitor settings that are
> screwy, just the card ones.
>
> If anyone has sucessfully got one of these cards running then please could
> you let me know because I'm dammed if I know how. If possible I'd appreciate
> it if you could email me at:
>
As I said, my friends ran fine. 1024x768 16bit acelerated goodness.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the Z's)
>
> since I don't check these newgroups as often as I do my mail.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rich.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Fieber)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 15 Feb 1999 00:24:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Shaun Rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) writes:
>
>> Just how is FreeBSD easier to use?
>
> For me it is easier to use because it seems more logical. Notice that this is
> a matter of opinion. IMO FreeBSD is easier to use because:
>
> 1. FreeBSD handbook and website. I have my handbook that contains most of the
> information I need, along with the FAQ. For me it is more centralized and
> up to date than LDP, ect.
On this point, there is a popular conception that Linux is extremely
well document and FreeBSD isn't. Having recently begun an evaluation
of options for some new servers, I must say that Linux community does
better in the tutorial style documents (HOWTOs), but the on-line
reference (man pages) are, on the whole, pathetic in each
distribution I've looked at. Example: I want to set up a
concatenated disk and the manual pages simply say "see the source
code". Ya, right. There probably aren't even comments in the code.
Compare that to the detailed vinum reference pages in FreeBSD, for
just one of hundreds of examples.
I'm not bothered by an occasional substandard manual page, but in the
distributions I've got installed, so many are substandard if they
exist at all. I only got a concatenated disk configured because the
Debian people had tucked away a little readme in /usr/doc...but if you
can write the damn documentation, why not put it in the man page!!!
Also, so many commands in Linux distributions differ from their
counterparts in commercial systems, I can't rely on documentation on
other (properly documented) systems or standard sysadmin books...you
have to get a Linux book. Contrast that with BSD systems which come
from a well established code base that is well document both in the
on-line reference and in numerous sysadmin books that nicely cover a
variety of Unix systems. Linux occupies such huge amount of
shelfspace in the local bookstore because it is quirky enough that
you need that much Linux-specific documentation.
For someone learning to use a Unix system, the HOWTOs are great, but
for a more seasoned user who needs a good reference manual, I have to
say that the BSD systems are a clear winner. With Linux, I fish
around for a non-existant manual page, hunt in /usr/doc for awhile,
check gnu info pages, fire up Netscape and check the HOWTOs before I
can find out what I need to know. It doesn't take very long for that
to get very tedious. With BSD, nine times out of ten I find the
answer I need at the first documentation stop, the on-line reference
manual.
-john
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From: pato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:27:50 +0000
Pierre A. von Kaenel wrote:
> Perhaps it hasn't occurred to you that considering the huge numbers of
> folks using Linux now (and the inroads being make in corporate American)
> that there may be a problem with *your* end - perhaps it's the hardware,
> the version/type of Linux you tried, any number of other things. But I
> wouldn't say that Linux, per se, sucks.
> --
> Pierre A. von Kaenel
> Math & Computer Science Dept.
> Skidmore College
> Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
the problem isn't linux ... the problem is people buying WINHARDWARE and
then complaining cause they can't do much with their hardware.
-= Linux is the OS =-
from an EX windows user
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits!
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:29:53 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I wonder if anyone can help me? I've just got this nice new machine with an
> ATI 3D Rage IIc graphics card (Mach64GT, Internal DAC Type) and can I get it
> to run XFree under RedHat 5.2 (apollo)?
>
> Can I heck.
>
> Whatever options I try, I get a lovely screen which is fine vertically-wise,
> but there are 4 repeated images horizontally.
>
> All I ask is for 1024x768 in 8bpp on my ADI Microscan 5P. My previous card
> (Expercolor DSV) worked fine so I know that it isn't monitor settings that are
> screwy, just the card ones.
>
> If anyone has sucessfully got one of these cards running then please could
> you let me know because I'm dammed if I know how. If possible I'd appreciate
> it if you could email me at:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the Z's)
>
> since I don't check these newgroups as often as I do my mail.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rich.
>
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I am using an ATI-All-in-wonder card. This is what SuperProbe command
outputs:
[root@smegma /dosD]# SuperProbe
.....<stuff removed>....
First video: Super-VGA
Chipset: ATI 264GT3 (3D Rage III) (Port Probed)
Memory: 4096 Kbytes
RAMDAC: ATI Mach64 integrated 15/16/24/32-bit DAC w/clock
(with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
(programmable for 6/8-bit wide lookup tables)
Attached graphics coprocessor:
Chipset: ATI Mach64
Memory: 4096 Kbytes
It works fine with XF86_Mach64
See this:
[root@smegma X11]# rpm -qa | grep XF
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-libs-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-Type1-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-2.1.2-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-2.1.2-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-2.1.2-1
XFree86-Xvfb-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-Xnest-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-Mach64-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-3.3.3.0-1
XFree86-devel-3.3.3.0-1
I use the following XF86Config file in /etc/X11
!!!NOTE THAT YOU MAY BURN UP YOUR MONITOR IF YOU DON'T
USE THE RIGHT MODE LINES FOR YOUR PARTICULAR MONITOR!!!!
These work for me with a Sony Trinitron 21" Monitor from
Dell.
[root@smegma X11]# cat XF86Config
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection
Section "Keyboard"
Protocol "Standard"
AutoRepeat 500 5
LeftAlt Meta
RightAlt Meta
ScrollLock Compose
RightCtl Control
XkbKeycodes "xfree86"
XkbTypes "default"
XkbCompat "default"
XkbSymbols "us(pc101)"
XkbGeometry "pc"
XkbRules "xfree86"
XkbModel "pc101"
XkbLayout "us"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Pointer"
Protocol "Microsoft"
Device "/dev/mouse"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"
HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0
VertRefresh 40-150
Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064
Modeline "1600x1200" 165 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Chipset "generic"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Mach64 GI (Rage Pro)"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Driver "accel"
Device "Mach64 GI (Rage Pro)"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1600x1200"
ViewPort 0 0
Virtual 1600 1200
EndSubsection
EndSection
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From: "Stephen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't check mail
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:32:17 -0600
Fixed it.
I found that I had stopped the inet daemon. Set it back to start when
booting and everything is back to normal.
Thanks,
Steve
Stephen Thomas wrote in message ...
>Since I had a power outage and had to restart my Linux system I can't check
>my e-mail from another system on the network. I am using Popper and get an
>error that my other system can't connect to the server. I get no log
>entries. I am fairly new to Linux so any help troubleshooting this would be
>appreciated.
>
>P.S. I don't know if it is related but I also can't connect to SWAT to
>manage my Samba server. I can, however, connect to the web server on that
>computer.
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
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From: Cameron Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: changing resolution??
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:27:40 -0500
hey, how do i change my resolution? i have it set at 1024x768 w/ 8 bit
color. but i want it to be 800x600 w/ 16 bit colors? as that is the
highest res. i can get w/ 16 bit color....
--
Cameron Fraser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: pato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:37:11 +0000
softalk wrote:
> Let me tell you I give up. After 3 solid weeks trying to set up a linux
> system I finally submit to the fact that me and Linux do not get on. I have
> been installing novell & Win networks as a job for 9 years but wow what a
> shock I got from Linux. It's like trying to learn to program in C with no
> manual or source code to compare. Even a simple job like installing a new
> program is sometimes impossible. So goodbye Linux and goodbye smug Linux
> users.
hum.. I've leared much more new stuffs in linux than in 3 - 4 years with
Windows and I really like linux.
Maybe you should get a book, read more and don't hesitate to ask questions.
Usually windows users have difficulties using linux/unix because they don't
know how to use available ressources.
manual pages/books/newsgroups/irc ................ and much much more
by the way I'm working for the gov. and I'm the only one who has a LINUX
workstation in a 100% Microsoft network.
And I like it. While I see others reboot 24/24 I have the mostt stable, fastest
and coolest workstation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: 15 Feb 1999 00:32:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rowan Volvo wrote:
:In article <fW1w2.197$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:Southam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>Here we go again. Look people, I know that Winblows is a piece of crap - M$
:>still hasn't pried the DOS kernel out of the thing. I've been in IT support
:>since Windows 3.0, so I know the architecture inside. As such, I hate
:>Windows with all the same venom and vitriol as the rest of you . But, it is
:>a necessary evil (for now).
:>You expect a CEO to learn e-mail on Linux? Right. His time costs about $200
:>an hour - too valuable to spend learning a new OS, when Windows is ready and
:>able to handle at least this simple chore ( for a while anyway, until it
:>chews the FAT table on the disk and explodes like a roman candle) and he
:>mostly knows how to use it. I wish everyone in here would drop the "holier
:>than thou" attitude. You all seem to either have a superiority complex or
:>want to divide the world into technology haves and have nots.
:>
I've done some supporting jobs on win95, been a 95 software engineer and I
can tell you that life is much easier since I dicovered Linux :-)
Don't blame the attitude. They know because the have seen.
Regards Hans
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