Linux-Misc Digest #57, Volume #25 Thu, 6 Jul 00 15:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: A good mail server for Linux ? ("David ..")
Re: Error 2 during Make Modules ("James C Causey Jr")
Re: old "Imakefile" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: old "Imakefile" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Easiest to install? (Rod Smith)
Re: PPP from ISP ("David ..")
Re: Netscape crashed on SMP system (Yan Seiner)
"Formatting swap space" never finishes! (kev)
Re: Maby a dumb file question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SMB access to Linux from W95? (Ken Yasuda)
Re: Corel PhotoPaint (brian moore)
Re: RAID syncronization problem (Yan Seiner)
Re: [Q]: How to transfer file from SGI O2 to PC Linux Mandrake 7 ? (Henrik Carlqvist)
Re: Mounting from rescue disks (Dances With Crows)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (C.J.)
Re: Help connect to Internet ^^ (Eli Peretz)
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A good mail server for Linux ?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:50:59 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We are looking for a stable and simple mail server for Linux.
>
> It should have SMTP and POP3 builtin (that is, no need for Sendmail),
> and a user data base that is independent of the users of the host. The
> server should be stand alone and 'smart' such that it does not
> requires a friendly SMTP server for mail distribution. We plan to use
> it for 20-70 people so Scalabiltiy is not an issue. A price of up to
> several hundreds $$$ is acceptable.
>
> Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated.
Qmail http://www.qmail.org
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From: "James C Causey Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: Error 2 during Make Modules
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:03:11 -0700
Reply-To: "James C Causey Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I did solve the problem. After Make bzImage and copying vmlinuz to /, I
have to mv /lib/modules/2.x /lib/modules/2.x-old. Then the modules build
correctly. I get it, but I don't understand why this is unnecessary when
compiling the same xconfig options in other distributions besides RedHat.
Thanks anyway,
James
BTW, the issue was in the ipv4 modules.
"Rasputin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <James C Causey Jr> wrote:
> >I have done a fresh install of RedHat 6.0 and have tried a recompile of
the
> >kernel "as is". My new bzImage is created just fine. However, Make
Modules
> >fails during a net module, and bails with a Make [Error 2] and a
description
> >of the module in question. Sure enough, the new kernel locks up during
the
> >Module Dependency load during bootup.
>
> Never boot a kernel that didn't build properly.
>
> >
> >What on earth am I doing wrong?
>
> What does the line above 'error 2' say?
> Is it 'command not found' or what?
>
> More info and we can probably help you here.
>
> --
>
> Rasputin.
> Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: old "Imakefile"
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:45:04 +0100
Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> I have an old application that includes an "Imakefile" instead of the newer
> "Makefile." GNU's "make" won't build it, and I was wondering how to build
> it.
imake. It's a predecessor of automake and autoconf and is used to generate
Makefiles. (It should still be included in your distro for compatibility)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: old "Imakefile"
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:46:13 +0100
Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Bill wrote:
>>
>> I have an old application that includes an "Imakefile" instead of the newer
>> "Makefile." GNU's "make" won't build it, and I was wondering how to build
>> it.
> run a "xmkmf" in that directory . That will produce a Makefile.
> You will need to install the X11 development stuff to get xmkmf working.
It depends if the program is an X application...
Or are imake and xmkmf interchangable?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Easiest to install?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:12:14 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <tK295.248$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Brimsfield) writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> Which flavor of linux (RedHat, Debian, Mandrake, SUSE,
> Slackware, etc...) is the easiest to install?
For ease of installation, I'd have to say the top three are:
1) Caldera
2) Corel
3) Mandrake
This listing assumes, though, that you've got a fairly simply
configuration to begin with. If you've already got more than one OS, or
if you plan to do anything fancy, I'd remove Corel from the list.
For more information on various distributions, check my web page on the
subject, http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/.
> I am
> looking for a standard installation that would have
> clients and servers for telnet, ftp and other networking tools
> plus a complete C and C++ compiler set.
All regular Linux distributions include all of these items, although not
all install all of these things by default.
> Is there a flavor of Linux where one does not have to go hunting for
> rpms or whatever after installation?
It depends on what you mean and what software you want:
- If you mean you don't have to return to the installation CD, I'm not
sure what the most complete default installation is. Keep in mind,
though, that the most complete default installations are also likely
to be the least secure default installations, because they set up too
many servers.
- If you mean you don't have to go to Internet sources to find tools,
SuSE is probably best, simply because it ships with the most CD-ROMs
(or a DVD-ROM, if you prefer that medium).
> I just want to be able to stick a CD in the drive and choose the options
> I want and get all of it installed in an automated format and just
> start using it afterwards. I do not want to find incomplete
> installs requiring software searches.
>
> Is such a distribution available for linux?
IMHO, you're asking for trouble. Given that you want to run servers,
you ***MUST*** be prepared to secure your system. That means research
and understanding what's installed on your computer. A
"plug-it-in-and-go" mentality is likely to lead to trouble when
Internet security issues raise their ugly heads, because it'll lead you
to try to avoid doing the necessary work. No matter what OS you use
(Linux, a BSD, NT, etc.), you should be prepared to spend at least
several hours learning about security and tweaking your system's
settings to make it as secure as you can. You can learn about security
from various web sites (try at your favored OS's site and follow
security links), from assorted Linux HOWTO documents, from newsgroups
like comp.security.unix, and from books. I've got several recommended
security books listed on my web site,
http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/books-network.html.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP from ISP
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:58:28 -0500
Marcm wrote:
>
> I got my USR external modem working in Linux Redhat 6.0 with "minicom" and
> now I want to make a connection with my ISP and get an IP address.
>
> I dial the ISP and connect. I get a menu of choices like "Telnet, X28 PAD,
> PPP, enter privileged command mode, etc, etc, Quit". I choose "PPP: Start
> IETF Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP)".
>
> After I choose PPP the ISP responds:
>
> Entering PPP routing mode.
> Async Interface address is unnumbered (Ethernet0)
> Your IP address is 216.66.152.188. MTU is 1500 bytes.
> Header compression will match your system.
>
> (now a bunch of cryptic characters appear here. After about 30 seconds the
> line drops and says NO CARRIER).
>
> QUESTION: What is the ISP expecting when I type in PPP, (some sort of
> authentication?). I have already logged in to get to the menu where I chose
> "PPP". What is expected at this point?
ISP's DNS IP numbers in: /etc/resolv.conf
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape crashed on SMP system
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:44:20 -0400
I've been running netscape under SMP for a while. I am using a tyan
mobo with pii/333 CPUs.
It sounds like you may have some sort of misconfig somewhere, a bad
install of netscape, or a hardware problem with the settings.
boot with linux nosmp (this will only run on one CPU). If the problem
persists, it's not SMP that's causing the problem.
This machine is not overclocked, is it?
--Yan
Bettina Grohnert wrote:
>
> Netscap runs fine on all of my single processor linux boxes.
> But on the SMP (dual intel pentium with SuSE 6.4) most of the pages crash.
> I have the latest netscape version. The system itself is stable.
>
> Does anyone share this experience? Can you help me?
>
> Thanks,
> Betti
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: "Formatting swap space" never finishes!
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 18:23:37 +0000
Hi,
I'm installing Red Hat 6.2.
I'm at the point where Disk Druid is formatting all the partitions. It
has done several partitions and has now hit the swap partition. On my
screen I have a dialog box which says "Formatting swap space on
/dev/sda7", it has been there about two hours and shows no sign of
finishing. It is of course the smallest partition (512Mb), but it seemed
to successfully format all the other partitions (although perhaps slower
than I expected, it didn't take anything like this length of time to
format a 10Gb partition).
Anyone had this problem before? What was the cuase and how did you fix
it?
thanks,
- Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Maby a dumb file question
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:22:02 GMT
Thanks for the responses. Actually I have solved it and response 1 was
correct... The chmod 777 never worked sorry..
The file was +a with chattr and needed to be -a.. This caused the file
to be append only... Could not kill chmod or nothing.. By removing this
attr I was able to kill the file..
This was the last file that was changed on the system. Tripwire ran
about 5 min after the hacker began working and doing his dammage.. It
ran many time afterwards and all file he/she added or changed were
removed and stored elsewhere..
All my binaries have now been replaced with originals from rpm's and
the like..
Thanks again..
aaron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Yasuda)
Subject: Re: SMB access to Linux from W95?
Date: 6 Jul 2000 17:36:29 GMT
Yeah, I saw this in the smb.conf FAQ. I have two questions about it.
1) I assume this causes the Windows machine to do file encryption.
2) Doesn't this pull the rug out out from under working protocols that the
windows machine has already had work with other machines? e.g. Can the windows
machine still print to other window machines it had printed to before?
Thanks.
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|> ->System
|> ->CurrentControlSet
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|> ->VxD
|> ->VNETSUP
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|>
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|>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Date: 6 Jul 2000 17:39:12 GMT
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:46:48 GMT,
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rainer Krienke wrote:
>
> >>> Corel is full of shit when it claims this is a Linux app. It's
> >>> just the windows version running under wine.
> >>
> >>> Good enough reason to avoid all Corel apps.
> >>
> >> Apart from wordperfect 8, of course.
> >
> >Well it is a windows app but it is running under the great
> >linux project wine.
>
> No, it isn't. WP8 is a written-from-scratch Unix application.
>
> AFAIK, the new Corel Office 2000 for Linux is built from the
> same source tree as the Win32 version and linked with the
> winelib UI libraries.
>
> But, this is different from it being an actual Win32 app
> running under wine.
Indeed, especially since Corel contributed tons of code to WINE (as well
as hosting some stuff for them now) as part of their building process.
(Ie, during the build/test process they found differences between WINE
and the 'real' Windows API, so changed WINE to match the Windows API
better and submitted their changes.)
The whole point of libwine is that companies can trivially port their
existing products to Linux. When Corel started their porting process,
it was far from trivial: with their contributions, it will be easier
for others.
It also has the side affect of making the 'wine' program itself (which
uses libwine) better at pretending to be Win32, so more unported code
will work out of the box.
Corel's method of porting with WINE is something the WINE developers
have wanted for years: it helps improve WINE.
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAID syncronization problem
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:15:45 -0400
Slow the bus speed down to 40, or even 20. If that makes your problem
go away, it's probably cabling and/or swap trays.
Also, the cabling needed for lvd is different than what's needed for
u2w.
I had horrible problems getting a quantum-based raid to work; eventually
I had to set it up as SE and not LVD. The symptoms were very similar to
yours. Quantum tech support sucked (at least for me).
See comp.periphs.scsi
--Yan
Max TenEyck Woodbury wrote:
>
> It's late and my locution may suffer as a result. Please
> excuse me if I am using terms in a non-standard manner.
>
> I recently set up a 3 drive software RAID 5 set on
> an APX 164(SX?). The machine is running Red Hat 6.2
> Alpha distribution right out of the box.
>
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: [Q]: How to transfer file from SGI O2 to PC Linux Mandrake 7 ?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:16:30 +0200
Farget Vincent wrote:
> A friend of mine own an O2 Silicon Graphics computer (with an
> ethernet adaptater) running under IRIX 6.5 OS.
> I have a PC PII (with an ethernet adaptater) running under Windows98
> OR Linux Mandrake 7.
> we want to transfer this mpeg file to my PC
> As I know that I can connect the two computer using a (cross) RJ45
> ethernet cable, what must I use (protocol, software,?.) on the both
> computer to simply do this transfer ?
First of all you will have to configure the network, giving the two
machines ip-adresses and stuff. This is explained in detail in the
NET-3-HOWTO. You will also find the information that you need in
man ifconfig
man route
There is additional information in the Ethernet HOWTO for how to make
Linux see your network card.
Then for an occasional file transfer ftp would be the best. If you want
to share files more often nfs is probably a better setup.
regards Henrik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Mounting from rescue disks
Date: 06 Jul 2000 14:20:52 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:30:09 GMT, Dan
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I am tryig to mount my hda5 root partition from a boot disk since I screwed
>up my XF86 config files and now can't log into my computer. When I try to
>mount it from my rescue disk it says, "couldm't mount RDWR because of
>unsupported optional features".
>Has anybody got any ideas what this means and how I can mount this partition?
(Did anyone reply to this? Bloody news swerver... anyway, here goes.)
Sounds like you're using Tom's RootBoot for a rescue disk. Tom's uses a
2.0.x kernel because space is at a premium on a 1.7M floppy, and this
older kernel cannot handle the "sparse superblock" feature of the ext2
filesystem. This feature is enabled by default in the newer versions of
mke2fs, as it saves disk space on big filesystems.
Tom himself is working on a fix for this, but until then, Tom's will have
a hard time reading some ext2 partitions.
And if you screwed up /etc/XF86Config and that's all that's wrong, why do
you need a rescue disk? Just enter "linux 2" (SuSE) or "linux 3" (RedHat
and derived) at the LILO boot prompt. Your machine will boot to a
text-only login prompt, and you can log in as root and rerun XF86Setup,
Xconfigurator, or SaX and get your X working properly. Linux does not
need X to do most of its stuff; just because X is not happy does not mean
your system is unusable.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 18:00:58 GMT
In article <6TW85.81871$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>C.J. wrote in message <396410dc$0$8315$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>While this isn't comp.os.linux.advocacy I had to put in my $.02
>
>>I've worked with:
>> MS-DOS 3.x, 4.x, 5.x and 6.x
>> IBM-DOS 4.x, 5.x
>> DR-DOS 4.x on up
>> A few other DOSes that the "old timers" would recognize.
>> Windows 3.0, 3.1, 95, 98, NT 3.50, 3.51 and 4.0
>> Netware 2.x, 3.x, 4.x, and 5.0
>> For Linux I've only tired Slackware 3 and 4 and RedHat 5.2, 6.1 and 6.2
>
>
>Seems you be happy with Redhat - works for me!
I've been pretty satisfied in general, but I'm considering looking around
a little at other distros.. maybe revisit Slackware. I getting a little
irritated with the "Microsoft-ish" practice of deciding what settings I want
when I upgrade versions of RPMs or of RedHat. My last update was a patched
Apache which murdered my web server by changing the httpd.conf in a way that
broke it. Unlike Windows, however, it did leave a backup copy of the config
which I was able to compare to find what it had changed.
>My first home computer was a Processor Technology SOL-10/20 - Intel 8080,
>S-100 bus, 64k static memory maxed and 4k static memory video buffer - it
>was and is a beautiful computer with solid walnut sides. Believe it or not,
Hehe.. The first PC I actually owned was a Timex Sinclair ZX81. It was a
single-unit with a membrane keyboard that used your TV for a video display and
a tape recorder for storage. It had a wopping 2k RAM but I eventually got the
upgrade to 16k. I later upgraded to a Comodore 64 and wondered how programs
could realistically take up more than 64k of RAM.
>
>There are many utilities, services and facilities under Linux that have no
>equal on any Windows OS - they just require something of a learning process.
>Earlier in this thread you mentioned that Windows doesn't have a telnet
>service but I ask you, what could you do with a CLI telnet session in a
>predominantly GUI OS? Windows is a single-user OS - Unix/Linux is a
>multi-user OS with all the power that facility endows.
Agreed. There are already things that *I* can do with Linux that simply are
not available with Windows or are too dificult to implement. For the non-tech
users I deal with (mostly family), short of multimedia support the
windows-or-linux issue is a toss-up. Unfortunately, the few things they can't
do on Linux (like make free long distance phone calls) are important enough
that they won't switch yet.
Speaking of free/cheap long-distance calling, when is even one of these
services going to support Linux? Several mention "some day" supporting Mac,
or that Mac support is in the works, but none cover Linux except how to enable
Windows clients to work through a IP-MASQ server.
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From: Eli Peretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help connect to Internet ^^
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:03:00 +0200
Only 5 days ago I installed Suse Linux 6.4 for the very first time in my life.
Using a PII 400 and 3Com USRobotics external 56 modem and wvdial, I was thrilled
to make Internet conection at full speed on he first click. So using the right
hardware ( I spent some good & serious bucks on the external modem only for the
linux's sake), a lot of attention and good logic during install, it can be
done.( and lets say 18 years in front of different computers)
Jackie wrote:
> Yeah...problem solved! Thanks for all the input ^^ - Jackie
>
> > Edit the file /etc/resolv.conf and make sure the file looks like this:
> >
> > search
> > nameserver xxx.yyy.zzz.www (IP address of your ISP's nameserver)
> > nameserver xxx.yyy.zzz.www (IP address of your ISP's 2nd nameserver)
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