Linux-Misc Digest #57, Volume #26 Tue, 17 Oct 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Michel Catudal)
Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed (Michel Catudal)
Re: ?KDE login/RH 7.0 problem (Robert Lynch)
GNORPM/Web Find (Robert Love)
How do you install a NIC under RH 6.2? ("Lamar Thomas")
Re: Equation Editors - AND STARMATH... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ALSA sound for Intel8x0 (Dan Smith)
Re: chmod (E J)
apache and cgi ("Regent Linus")
Sound & Exceed 6.2 ("Owen")
RPM Problems (major numbers <= 3) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (John Hasler)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (John Hasler)
Problem running LyX (Madhusudan Singh)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Robert Heller)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Robert Heller)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Robert Heller)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Robert Heller)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 22:10:03 -0500
jazz a �crit :
>
> In article <qEqG5.3541$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan
> Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, then you probably want to take a look at
> > -abiword
> > -StarOffice (BLOATware)
> > -ApplixWare (payware)
> >
> > Or you can just distribute your documents as pdf's...
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Jan
>
> Please tell me more. For example, I just wrote a paper with someone in LA.
> I'm in New Jersey. I wrote a draft, emailed it to them, they revised it,
> resent it to me, I revised and made additions, sent it back, he revised,
> and I sent some additional parts, he put it all together, and sent it out
> to all the other authors, as a word attachment they all can read and make
> changes to.
>
> So these would have to import/export files in word-readible format.
>
> Can they do that? I doubt Bill would put up with that, and would instruct
> his minions to make a couple of tweaks in Word for insurance.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
Star Office 5.2 does a good job. It comes free with SuSE 7.0 and perhaps some
other Linux distributions.
StarOffice and Quatro Pro do most of what excel do except for the crashing.
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then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed
Date: 16 Oct 2000 22:21:04 -0500
Bryan Robinson a �crit :
>
> I'm trying to get asDrinks to work on my system. When I try to run the
> script, I get the following message:
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = "en",
> LC_ALL = "en",
> LANG = "en"
> are supported and installed on your system.
>
> This doesn't seem to be well documented. Can anyone tell me how to
> change these settings, or at least where to look for info?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Bryan Robinson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your locales seem to be screwed up. I had a worst local problem with SuSE 6.4 but it
got fixed with SuSE 7.0. It seemed to be a problem with the installer.
Which version are you running? The locales in Mandrake 7.0 worked great last I checked.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
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We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ?KDE login/RH 7.0 problem
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:27:25 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fester wrote:
>
> I saw Robert Lynch rant about the following:
> >Hiya-
> >
> >I have a problem with logging in to the KDE desktop with a RH6.2
> >-> RH7.0 upgrade.
> >
> >The KDE login dialog box comes up, and I can enter my username,
> >but when I am in the password box, it will not accept any input.
>
> Try hovering your mouse cursor over the input box. It's picky about that
> sometimes.
Nope.
Bob L.
> --
> -- Fester
> "And Dream dreams of the future. Progress dreams of clean.
> And Stress only dreams about stress, all over everything."
> ==============================================================
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNORPM/Web Find
Date: 16 Oct 2000 22:33:27 -0500
Everytime I try and start Web Find under Gno RPM I get:
XML-CRITICAL **: Document is empty
XML-CRITICAL **: Start tag expected, '<' not found
What bloody document are they talking about and why don't
they say so? Any tips on getting this working would be
appreciated.
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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How do you install a NIC under RH 6.2?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:38:42 GMT
I installed the following NIC inside my PC, now what do I do?
3Com EtherLink III 3C509B-TPO ISA 10Mbs card.
I am running Linux as a Server with X Windows. Where do I go to install and
configure the card? What are the setup steps? Thanks for your help.
Lamar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,sci.math
Subject: Re: Equation Editors - AND STARMATH...
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:38:10 GMT
In article
<dnDE5.1799$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"G Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Radix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi there:
> >
> > Does anyone know of an equation editor (for
linux systems) that can
> > display complex mathematical equations (greek
alphabet, and all that
> > other stuff) etc. I have been using StarMATH
(included with StarOffice),
> > but it doesn't have the ability, that I know
of, to save the
> > equation/formula as a picture file (*.jpg,
*.gif, *.bmp etc.)... This
> > is important for me... Thanks...
> >
> You can copy/paste the formula from the text
document into a StarOffice
> drawing, and then save it as a bit-mapped image.
Alternatively, you could
> capture the SO screen with gimp, xv, etc. and
crop that down to the
> formula.
>
>
Have you tried using Latex? I know that it can
display extremely complicated formulas, but it's a
bit hard to use though.. =)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: ALSA sound for Intel8x0
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:30:58 -0600
Has anyone gotten the ALSA driver for intel8x0 working? If so, please
help. I've got the ALSA devices working, but I can't use things like
xmms or realplayer. I insert the snd-pcm-oss module, but no go.
Can someone help me and make sure I have everything working right?
I am using TurboLinux WS 6 (2.2.16)
Thanks!
-Dan
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chmod
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:02:55 -0700
The file creation mode mask as set by umask or inherited from the
shell's parent
put the "umask ###" in each of the /home/user/.bash_profile, where ### is
the default attribute you are giving
same as the "chmod ###" if you execute it manually.
"Johannes G�tz" wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is it possible to change the default attributes of files generated by a
> user?
> Every file that is written should have the a+wX attributes.
> Is it possible to change this behaviour wth in.ftpd?
>
> Thanks for your answers,
>
> Johannes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Regent Linus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: apache and cgi
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:00:15 +0800
How could I force cgi running as a user that own the cgi?
Thanks
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From: "Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Sound & Exceed 6.2
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 04:14:32 GMT
I have two machines I use constantly. My main machine is running win2k. I
use it to connect to the linux box with Hummingbird Exceed 6.2. I really
would like to be able to hear sounds from my linux machine. The linux
machine is running Redhat 7.0.
>From what I've read so far, it looks like esounds is the main sound server
for enlightenment and it is capable of exporting the sounds over the
network. However there isn't a windows client/server that can receive this
export from esounds.
My other option is to use the soundcard that is already in the linux
machine, hook some speakers up and have twice as many speakers on my desk.
I could live with this because I really need sound on both machines. I have
tried this, but it seems that when your connected via exceed, the linux box
will not play sounds. However when I use the linux box directly (ie move
all my keyboard, mouse and video cables) then the sound works. Yes I could
buy a KVM but I'm trying to figure out a way so that I don't have to do
that.
Anyhelp would be appreciated
Thanks.
Owen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RPM Problems (major numbers <= 3)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 04:33:24 GMT
Hello everyone!
I just installed TurboLinux 6.0.4 OSE Workstation today, and I noticed
that it uses RPM. Well, I thought that is cool. So, i went to download
an rpm from freshmeat.net and install it. Well, I did a rpm -ihv
<package>, and it gave me this error:
only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of
RPM
Gah! Whats this mean? I tried it on like 5 different packages, and all
said the same thing.
I installed an rpm that came with the distrobution cd, and it installed
successfully.
Does anyone have any idea on what to do to fix this? I used tarballs on
some things (QT, Licq), but sometimes they are a pain in the arse. Any
ideas or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Brady
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:49:44 GMT
Jean-David Beyer writes:
> Is this a permanent bug in Netscape?
It's closed source: who knows?
Why are you trying to use a Web browser for news anyway?
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John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:51:56 GMT
Jerry L Kreps writes:
> I wish this real name policy was universal!
How do you propose to authenticate those "real names"?
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John Hasler
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem running LyX
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:18:02 -0400
Hi
I just installed Lyx-1.1.5fix1 (compiled it). I get the following
error.
[root@guo /root]# lyx
lyx: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
libc.so.5 is located at /usr/486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5.
What could be the problem ?
Thanks,
Madhusudan Singh.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 05:30:13 -0000
Roberto Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 16 Oct 2000 17:15:08 -0400, wrote :
RT> >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RT>
RT> Jan> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document
RT> Jan> FOrmat - D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
RT>
RT> Not to start a document format war, but isn't PDF a proprietary
RT> format? What about PS? I don't know if PS is proprietary, but it sure
RT> is *very* portable
Except for MS-Windows boxes....
RT>
RT> --
RT> Roberto Teixeira
RT>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 05:30:14 -0000
Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 16 Oct 2000 19:23:12 GMT, wrote :
BL>
BL> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Roberto Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BL> :>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BL>
BL> : Jan> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document
BL> : Jan> FOrmat - D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
BL>
BL> : Not to start a document format war, but isn't PDF a proprietary
BL> : format? What about PS? I don't know if PS is proprietary, but it sure
BL> : is *very* portable
BL>
BL> I believe both Postscript and PDF are Adobe proprietary, but are
BL> well documented to the point where anyone can make a reader
BL> (Ghostview, xpdf) or writer (ps2pdf, dvipdfm) for them,
BL> effectively making an open standard. And since Adobe hasn't
BL> shown much desire to make us participate in the
BL> "File Standard Hoop-Jumping Olympics", there's little to fear
BL> that either will be severely mucked-up anytime soon.
And Adobe has *free* readers for just about all operating systems.
Adobe does not play the same games as MS -- this proably totally pisses
Mr. Bill off. Adobe is probably the only major software house to have
totally avoided being trashed on some level my MS.
Note: there is a page on Adobe's website listing all of the companies
that have signed the PostScript license agreement -- Microsoft is
*conspicuously* missing from this list...
BL>
BL>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 05:30:15 -0000
lyttlec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:59:57 GMT, wrote :
l> jazz wrote:
l> >
l> > In article <qEqG5.3541$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan
l> > Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
l> >
l> > >
l> > > Well, then you probably want to take a look at
l> > > -abiword
l> > > -StarOffice (BLOATware)
l> > > -ApplixWare (payware)
l> > >
l> > > Or you can just distribute your documents as pdf's...
l> > >
l> > >
l> > > Cheers,
l> > > -Jan
l> >
l> > Please tell me more. For example, I just wrote a paper with someone in LA.
l> > I'm in New Jersey. I wrote a draft, emailed it to them, they revised it,
l> > resent it to me, I revised and made additions, sent it back, he revised,
l> > and I sent some additional parts, he put it all together, and sent it out
l> > to all the other authors, as a word attachment they all can read and make
l> > changes to.
l> >
l> > So these would have to import/export files in word-readible format.
l> >
l> > Can they do that? I doubt Bill would put up with that, and would instruct
l> > his minions to make a couple of tweaks in Word for insurance.
l> >
l> > Thanks
l> > Jim
l> I just did the same thing using LaTex and CVS. Only we didn't have to do
l> the e-mail bit. It was nice being able to merge 3 separate edits at one
l> time. End result was a camera ready copy. Once up the learning curve,
l> LaTex is easier to use than Word. It does what you want, not what some
l> burnt out programmer decided you want to do.
More like idiot marketing droid....
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 05:30:15 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman),
In a message on Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:03:45 GMT, wrote :
MG> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:35:57 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MG> > In article <8seufm$c7d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
MG> > >Latex is fine. But try to give this to an experienced user of Word and it's
MG> > >not going to happen in this life time.
MG> > Learning to use LaTeX is certainly no more difficult than learning to use
MG> > Word. Provided with a set of LaTeX templates, I've seen people with no
MG> > typesetting or programming experience whatsoever producing within a day
MG> > ...
MG>
MG> I agree with you completely.
MG>
MG> But why is it that the majority of the corporate world uses Word? Is that
MG> all marketing in action?
Can you say 'Ignorance'? The 'majority of the corporate world' moved
from 'sectraries' to desktop PCs: i.e. from dictation to *typewriter*
jockies to 'smart' typewriters. Important documents in the past went
as typewriten *manuscripts* to a *professional* typesetter, who used
*natural* intelligence to *deduce* formatting issues from the
(basically *unformatted*) typewriten manuscripts. The corporate types
really had no clue what was going on except in a vague way. Since the
*professional* typesetters were (relatively) low paid (relative to
corp. execs.) and were (are?) considered a 'blue collar' crew (one rung
above the (ink stained) guys running the printing press itself). The
current corporate types think that they can replace these
*professionals* with some cheap software. The corporate types have not
every had any training in proper typesetting and have little or no
interest in taking the time to learn. And have a massive Eye Candy
"sweet tooth". They see a dancing paper-clip and think they are getting
an 'expert system' loaded with 'AI'. Hah! They are really getting a
worthless marketing gimmick and are totally conned by it.
MG>
MG> I just find it so frustrating as an individual who is strictly a Linux
MG> user when someone sends me a Word document or puts up some useful
MG> information in Powerpoint or Excel form. It's honestly one of my biggest
MG> fears when I graduate from college and join the "real world" that I'll
MG> have to interface with MS products just to keep up with the operations of
MG> my organization.
I have found a useful tool: 'strings'. The strings command will
extract the essential 'content' of a word document:
% strings -n1 foo.doc | fmt | less -X
Yes, all of the formatting and random graphics are totally lost. As far
as *I* am concerned, if the words (text) do not convey what needs to be
conveyed, then the document is probably worthless.
MG>
MG> MG
MG>
MG> --
MG> Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MG> "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
MG> -- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
MG>
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