Linux-Misc Digest #123, Volume #25 Thu, 13 Jul 00 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Still can't run GCC ... ("Micromans")
RE: Help again... ("greenplasticman")
Disk I/O problems with Dell XPS 1GHz ("John Matzen")
Re: Q: CPU damaged/stopped? System hangs at 1 program (Peter Gantner)
Re: Q: CPU damaged/stopped? System hangs at 1 program (Peter Gantner)
non-X mpeg-player ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help me! (Nanda)
GNOME probs (Jacob Reichman)
Re: Interesting behavior of LILO (John in SD)
Re: Disk I/O problems with Dell XPS 1GHz (Dances With Crows)
X protocol vs. XDMCP ("Hsinko Yu")
Re: PGP signed messages!!! ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: Microsoft (Roger Blake)
Re: modem won't pick up call with uugetty (Bill Unruh)
libfltk (News Reader)
Re: libfltk (News Reader)
Re: What do I need to play VCD on my Linux box? (J Bland)
Need Help - Joining Windows NT Domain from Linux Box ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: non-X mpeg-player ("Jan Schaumann")
X11, ATI Rage 128 (John McKerrell)
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From: "Micromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Still can't run GCC ...
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:11:01 -0700
I've ensured that the following RPM's (RedHat 6.0) are installed:
binutils-2.9.1.0.23-1.i386.rpm
egcc-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
egcc-c++-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
egcc-g77-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
egcc-objc-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
When I do a "./configure" to make squid I get the error "Checking whether
the C compiler (gcc -g) works... no"
So I followed instructions on another post and entered a C program (hello.c)
as follows:
cat > hello.c
main ()
{
printf ("Hello\n");
}
<Control-D>
Once the Hello.C program was entered I did a "gcc hello.c" and get this
error:
/usr/sbin/ld: cannot open crt1.0: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
I don't know the C language. All I want to do is run "./configure" so I can
then make squid. Any ideas what I'm missing?
Thanks,
micromans
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From: "greenplasticman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: RE: Help again...
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:32:07 -0400
Jérôme Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje de noticias
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Now, I will starting to install first Windows98 and second Linux on my
> PC!
> After installing Windows98, how could I install Linux without erase
> Windows98?
> should I change the cylinder for the first Partition with a higer
> number?
> How should I configure my Linux's patitions? What must I pay
> attention...?
>
you can use Partition Magic to build partitions and install Linux
without erase Win98
--
Rodrigo Henriquez M.
Fono : +56-2-6986671
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 67102514
_____________________________________________
RADIOHEAD : did u hear a sound like this?
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From: "John Matzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk I/O problems with Dell XPS 1GHz
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:34:50 -0500
I've recently aquired a Dell Deminsion XPS with a 1GHz PIII CPU, 512MB
700MHz RDRAM, and a GeForce2 card. I've installed Debian 2.2 and I'm
currently running kernel 2.3.99-pre9 and XFree86 4.0, although this problem
is also in older "stable" kernels. The disk is a ST330630A (30GB Seagate).
The problem is that during disk I/O, the response from the keyboard and
mouse is very herky-jerky; basically the system is locking up for a fraction
of a second about each second. It's extraordinarly annoying. When
untarring a big archive or copying a big file, the problem is very evident.
When copying a file over the network, the problem is not so obvious but is
still detectable.
Any clues on this matter would be a great help!
Thanks!
John Matzen
Senior Programmer
Origin Systems, Inc.
http://www.origin.ea.com/
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:36:19 +0200
From: Peter Gantner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.qdi,sci.math.num-analysis
Subject: Re: Q: CPU damaged/stopped? System hangs at 1 program
Baolai Ge schrieb:
>
> Few days ago, I found the CPU fan stopped from time to time
> and the system froze randomly. After I put on a new fan, the
> hang-up seemed to go away. I didn't run too much computational
> program until today. When I run a CPU intensive program under
> Linux, the system froze after the program run for about 2
> minutes. The system did not respond to any key actions and I
> had to reboot the machine. This happened repeatedly when I run
> the same program. The following is top output when system died
>
> 11:48pm up 4 min, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 0.50, 0.20
> 59 processes: 56 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states: 98.6% user, 1.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle
> Mem: 63200K av, 54944K used, 8256K free, 47024K shrd, 3388K buff
>
> Swap: 192740K av, 0K used, 192740K free 28996K
> cached
>
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
> COMMAND
> 521 me 11 0 1304 1304 392 R 0 95.4 2.0 2:10
> myprog
> 427 root 0 0 14436 14M 1552 S 0 3.1 22.8 0:06 X
> 511 me 0 0 3004 3004 244 R 0 0.7 4.7 0:00
> gnome_termin
> 520 me 1 0 1008 1008 824 R 0 0.3 1.5 0:00 top
>
> I run the program on several other machines with same
> Linux configuration, including one with a PII 350, 64MB RAM,
> which is close to my machine (see specs below), and none of
> them failed. Does it sound like a CPU problem (damaged
> previously: overheated) or a memory fault or a defect mainboard?
>
> My system info
> - QDI A3/133 (http://www.qdigrp.com) mainboard with VIA chipset,
> - PIII 500 (not in box) w/heat sink + a fan (at ~33C/4821 RPM)
> - 64 MB PC100 SDRAM (Fujitsu, made in Japan)
> - ATI AGP video card w/8MB RAM
> - Creative PCI 128bit sound card
> - HDD, FDD, CD ROM, etc.
Sounds to me like your mainboard stops your system from time to time
because it figures the CPU becomes too hot.
I had a similar problem once, and it went away after installing a cooler
cooler ;))
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:38:13 +0200
From: Peter Gantner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.qdi,sci.math.num-analysis
Subject: Re: Q: CPU damaged/stopped? System hangs at 1 program
Baolai Ge schrieb:
>
> Few days ago, I found the CPU fan stopped from time to time
> and the system froze randomly. After I put on a new fan, the
> hang-up seemed to go away. I didn't run too much computational
> program until today. When I run a CPU intensive program under
> Linux, the system froze after the program run for about 2
> minutes. The system did not respond to any key actions and I
> had to reboot the machine. This happened repeatedly when I run
> the same program. The following is top output when system died
>
> 11:48pm up 4 min, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 0.50, 0.20
> 59 processes: 56 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states: 98.6% user, 1.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle
> Mem: 63200K av, 54944K used, 8256K free, 47024K shrd, 3388K buff
>
> Swap: 192740K av, 0K used, 192740K free 28996K
> cached
>
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
> COMMAND
> 521 me 11 0 1304 1304 392 R 0 95.4 2.0 2:10
> myprog
> 427 root 0 0 14436 14M 1552 S 0 3.1 22.8 0:06 X
> 511 me 0 0 3004 3004 244 R 0 0.7 4.7 0:00
> gnome_termin
> 520 me 1 0 1008 1008 824 R 0 0.3 1.5 0:00 top
>
> I run the program on several other machines with same
> Linux configuration, including one with a PII 350, 64MB RAM,
> which is close to my machine (see specs below), and none of
> them failed. Does it sound like a CPU problem (damaged
> previously: overheated) or a memory fault or a defect mainboard?
>
> My system info
> - QDI A3/133 (http://www.qdigrp.com) mainboard with VIA chipset,
> - PIII 500 (not in box) w/heat sink + a fan (at ~33C/4821 RPM)
> - 64 MB PC100 SDRAM (Fujitsu, made in Japan)
> - ATI AGP video card w/8MB RAM
> - Creative PCI 128bit sound card
> - HDD, FDD, CD ROM, etc.
Sounds to me like your mainboard stops your system from time to time
because it figures the CPU becomes too hot.
I had a similar problem once, and it went away after installing a cooler
cooler ;))
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: non-X mpeg-player
Date: 13 Jul 2000 14:38:51 GMT
Hi all !
Does anyone know if and where I can find a VGA-based mpeg-player
(i.e. not requiring X) ?
thanx !
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Subject: Help me!
From: Nanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:36:26 -0700
I am trying to do the following, but doesn't have any experience
with Linux related stuff.....any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
Nanda Kumar
===========
I am heading a QA division with 10 testers with Windows being
the platform for testing. We are currently using home-grown
defect database developed on Microsoft-Access, the problem with
this is frequent corruption (as it's not a multi-user database).
Because of which most of the times we are having major problems
like data loss and records missing etc.,It's been very
frusrating sometimes to handle the data corruption.
Now I am looking at alternatives and I want to bounce off
following idea on OPENSOURCE. This is the thought:
1.Set up a machine with Linux
2.Install a Samba/Apache server
3.Install MYSQL database
4.Develop a HTML front end (to make it accessible through a
browser)
With this I see following benefits:
1.Dont require any client for accessing the database, can use
any browser (and from any platform)
2.Dont require to spend anything on software or licenses 3.In
future can extend it for multi-locational usage (by setting a
webserver)
But on the down side, following are the issues with this effort:
1.Development & Set-up effort
2.There wont be any support available!
3.Not sure about the support for creating reports for defect
analysis
Has anyone tried something like this....have U been successful,
what are issues and efforts involved. Share your experiences and
thoughts on this......
Looking forward for your responses......
Nanda Kumar
Qulaity Manager
Guru Inc.,
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:16:26 -0500
From: Jacob Reichman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME probs
I just did a custom RedHat 6.1 install from the CD. Installed whatever
packages I wanted, including all GNOME packages, no KDE packages at
all. So, I boot up for the first time, everything works, I login, type
"startx", and it gives me snotloads of error messages re:KDE. ??? How
do I tell xf86 that it should be running GNOME?
-Jake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interesting behavior of LILO
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:08:23 GMT
Kent,
As the current maintainer of LILO, what you are doing should work okay. There
are several reasons it may not, but I would need a good deal more information
to figure out why you met with failure.
BTW: lilo is now at version 21.4.4.
--John
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:18:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am using LILO v0.21. I've found an interesting behavior.
>I have only one hard disk and the partitions are:
>
> hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
>
>Linux is installed in hda5. If I install the LILO boot
>loader into hda2 and set hda2 as the active partition,
>it hangs at "LI" when booting. But if I install the loader
>into the MBR, it works fine.
>
>Can anyone explain why the location of the LILO boot
>loader can make such a difference? Note that the kernel
>itself is in hda5.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
LILO version 21.4.4 (20-Jun-2000) source at
ftp: sd.dynhost.com dir: /pub/linux/lilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Disk I/O problems with Dell XPS 1GHz
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:10:22 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:34:50 -0500, John Matzen
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I've recently aquired a Dell Deminsion XPS with a 1GHz PIII CPU, 512MB
>700MHz RDRAM, and a GeForce2 card. I've installed Debian 2.2 and I'm
>currently running kernel 2.3.99-pre9 and XFree86 4.0, although this problem
>is also in older "stable" kernels. The disk is a ST330630A (30GB Seagate).
>
>The problem is that during disk I/O, the response from the keyboard and
>mouse is very herky-jerky; basically the system is locking up for a fraction
The problem you're experiencing is HUGE in the dev. series at the
moment; there are ongoing problems with kswapd and the VM system taking up
much more CPU than they should. The kernel developers are working
frantically to fix this, naturally. FWIW, for me on a P-150 with a slow
disk, kernel 2.3.99-preN is horribly slow wrt disk I/O while kernel 2.2.N
practically zips along.
Have you done the canonical thing with hdparm? Try this:
hdparm -c1 -u1 -m16 /dev/hda
This turns on 32-bit I/O support, enables unmasking of interrupts during
disk I/O, and enables reads of up to 16 sectors at a time. The unmasking
of interrupts will probably help things considering the symptoms you
describe, the other options improve general I/O performance by about 30%
on most systems.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: "Hsinko Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: X protocol vs. XDMCP
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:56:34 +0800
Hello all,
I know that XDMCP is used to communicate with the X Display Manager (XDM)
running on a host machine. But after we login successfully and start some
applications (x clients), what is the protocol between remote 'x clients'
and local 'x server' ?
X protocol or XDMCP?
If it is XDMCP, then an XDM is not only a graphical login interface but also
an interpreter.
Please correct me if my concept is wrong.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Hsinko
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PGP signed messages!!!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:18:30 -0400
> Why does everyone on this newsgroup send
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
What everyone? I hardly ever see PGP signatures on this newsgroup.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: Microsoft
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:27:28 GMT
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:43:47 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>MS-DOS was pretty much a clone of CP/M. CP/M contains a lot
>of DECisms (Kildall worked for DEC at one time, didn't he?).
Yes, in fact as I recall CP/M even has some similarities to OS/8.
(Though I haven't touched either OS in more years than I'd like
to think about. :-)
>I used DEC PCs when they finally came out. They were
The Rainbow was pretty awful, very proprietary. I think later on
there may have been a utility that let one format their own diskettes
on those lousy RX50 drives. I know of a few Rainbows still in use,
but only as dumb terminals.
Ken Olson never did like the idea of personal computers and DEC went
through a variety of contortions -- reluctantly trying to meet the
customer demand for them while trying to downplay them at the same
time. We had the Rainbow series, the PRO series (desktop PDP-11, I
had a PRO 350 for a while), sourcing PCs from Tandy, the meltdown-prone
VaxMate, etc.
>Copying somebody else's mistakes is a more venal sin than
>making your own. The first guy to screw up something has an
True, but in this case MS had to deal with the braindead design
of the hardware, which AFAIK they had no control over. Of course
MS is certainly guilty of countless sins of their own...
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: modem won't pick up call with uugetty
Date: 13 Jul 2000 15:40:48 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Anurodh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I finally got uugetty running with out errors on Red hat 6.2 but it won't
>pick up any calls. I know that uugetty is running becaus it is shown when i
Don't. Do not use uugetty for this. Use mgetty. Even the author of uugetty advises
you to use mgetty for answering modems. Use mgetty. The book you read is very very old.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News Reader)
Subject: libfltk
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:43:10 GMT
Does any one know where I can download a package
that will install libfltk on my a linux system.
Here is why.
I want html to ps program. html2ps is kind of flaky.
So I want to install htmldoc of which someone said might do
the same thing.
htmldoc needs libfltk.
One thing led to another and I started downloading Mesa (or is it Mensa).
But Mesa is not enough. I need Mesa-glut.
But ... Mesa-glut on redhat/contrib is one version smaller than
Mesa.
And.. Mesa-glut needs the smaller version of Mesa.
So how do I install htmldoc? or libfltk
Thanks`
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News Reader)
Subject: Re: libfltk
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:45:35 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:43:10 GMT, News Reader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>So how do I install htmldoc? or libfltk
without breaking my back :)
>
>Thanks`
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: What do I need to play VCD on my Linux box?
Date: 13 Jul 2000 15:38:03 GMT
>Hi, everyone. Could anyone tell me what I need to do to my Linux box to
>make it play VCD's? I tried out one software from
>http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/mpeg/index.html
>but it does not seem to recognize VCD files with file extension ".dat"
>If the VCD player says that it only plays MPEG-1 videos, what file
>extension should those files have? Do I have to use some special software
>to read the data from the CD-ROM drive or I can just mount it as usual?
>Thanks for your help in advance.
MpegTV handles VCDs (very good but shareware).
Xtheater also handles them, using open source mpeg players, not quite so
good ime but adequate.
Frinky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need Help - Joining Windows NT Domain from Linux Box
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:35:50 GMT
Hi There,
I am desperately seeking help in solving my problem.
I've loaded linux on a machine at work. The network is window nt network
and I am simply trying to hook up to the NT domain so that I can surf
the net thru the Linux box. At a later stage I would want others(using
windows) to be able to see my linux box and access and use linux
programs.
Some Info: I could see my network card thru 'ifconfig' as well as thru
'dmesg'. I used netconfig to connect using DHCP and I know I have a
valid IP address. I could 'ping' my linux IP from windows but then I am
not able to get 'netstat' from windows. This apparently is because I did
not join the NT domain. And I am desperate to join the windows NT
domain. I am stuck.
Deeply appreciate any and all help..
Thanks
Sahadev
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: non-X mpeg-player
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:58:09 -0500
It was Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:38 AM that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spoke the words:
> Hi all !
>
> Does anyone know if and where I can find a VGA-based mpeg-player
> (i.e. not requiring X) ?
>
> thanx !
>
mpg123:
http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/01/11/884572134.html
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
In Pocataligo, Georgia, it is a violation for a woman over 200 pounds
and attired in shorts to pilot or ride in an airplane.
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From: John McKerrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X11, ATI Rage 128
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:06:45 +0000
Hi, please don't shoot me down if this has been covered but I've looked
around and not been succesful.
I have an ATI Rage (128) Fury Pro and I'm trying to get it to work with
X, I checked the docs for XFree86 ver 4.0.1 and they said it was fine,
simply requiring
Driver "r128"
I installed ver 4.0.1 from the tarballs and then ran xf86config and it
had no mention of ATI Rage, which the previous version (3.6.1 or
something, came with redhat 6.2) did at least have. What do I need to
get X to work on my system? I'll be happy to supply any more details as
necessary.
John
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