Linux-Misc Digest #123, Volume #27 Fri, 16 Feb 01 08:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: printer under linux
uppercase problem in burnung cd ("alon")
fs across two hard disk (zms)
Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!) (Sinner from the Prairy)
Re: FreeBSD out-serve Linux ? (Andreas Schweitzer)
Re: uppercase problem in burnung cd (Rod Smith)
Re: FreeBSD out-serve Linux ? (John Hasler)
Re: Bash arrays (cLIeNUX user)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Keyboard mapping and ster (Jem)
Small Linux: Trouble creating boot disk ("Tom I. Horvei")
Re: File system/Superblock problems (David Richard Larochelle)
Serial port comunication (Cristian Sava)
Re: How can I get rid of "bash"? (Glitch)
Re: safe rm (Glitch)
Re: Serial port comunication (Michael Heiming)
DivX;-) with xmps? (Johannes)
Re: DivX;-) with xmps? (Juan Meneses)
Re: Winders Millenium and the mbr. ("Eric")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: File system/Superblock problems ("Eric")
what meens the + ("Marcus Rudolph")
Re: Small Linux: Trouble creating boot disk ("Tauno Voipio")
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printer under linux
Date: 16 Feb 2001 04:24:08 GMT
Hugh Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> printtool is not a kde application, afaik. It is an X application though.
> If you can find it on your system, it will save you time.
Yes, thanks!
---- Brittle
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From: "alon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: uppercase problem in burnung cd
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:52:04 +0200
>
>The problem is that if you burn a CD on Windows machine - The
>CD is O.K if you browse it on a Windows machine but if you
>take the same CD and browse it on a Unix machine than all the
>files are with lower cases only.
>So when you try to install you receive an error because Setup
>looks for files with case sensitive manner.
>
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From: zms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fs across two hard disk
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:01:01 +0800
Hi,
after creating the FS, I find I need one dir in FS1 need more space than
I thought,
so how can I let the dir use another disk, just this dir, so I can't
create a symbol link
to the other disk FS.
Thanks
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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:11:52 -0500
Hi,
One comparison: up time.
=========================
You know how long a Linux machine can be up. Check Netcraft.
I recall a document at Microsoft knowledge base were they comment about
the inability of Windows 95 to stay 'on' (running) more than 28 days.
Even doing nothing, a Windows machine would need to reboot on the 29th
day. I guess they corrected this on Win98 (Win98SE??).
Also, WinNT 4.x wasr ecommended to be reboot once a month. The new
Win2000 is able to stand several months up. Check the 'new Win2000
version benefits' and look for 'increased stability amount larger time
between reboots'.
Check at the Microsoft Kowledge Base yourself. I'm not interested in
doing it. I guess that pointing you in the direction is enough.
Other comparison: choice
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Graphical desktops available (http://www.plig.org/xwinman/), hardware
available, minimum requirements for functionality,
Hope it helps.
Salut,
Sinner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Subject: Re: FreeBSD out-serve Linux ?
Date: 16 Feb 2001 05:12:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <cv1j6.275$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arctic Storm wrote:
>FreeBSD out-serve Linux ?
>Netcraft keeps track of web sites with long uptimes.
>Top 50 were ranked, and majority of the servers ran on FreeBSD, and Linux
>was not listed. I thought that Linux had a large chunk of web servers,...
>Should I give FreeBSD a try?
Here goes another holy war .....
FreeBSD is a very stable system. Ideal for servers.
About the uptimes you found on netcraft : This recent longest
uptime chart is misleading since the lower half of that topXXX is
all the same server under different names.....
Secondly, a long uptime simply means that they did not reboot recently.
That means they did not upgrade their kernel. This may be good
or bad ...
Andreas
--
Andreas Schweitzer
http://dilbert.physast.uga.edu/~andy/
This post is brought to you by VIM, slrn and FreeBSD
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: uppercase problem in burnung cd
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:13:52 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <96g1rv$qr6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"alon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>
>>The problem is that if you burn a CD on Windows machine - The
>>CD is O.K if you browse it on a Windows machine but if you
>>take the same CD and browse it on a Unix machine than all the
>>files are with lower cases only.
>>So when you try to install you receive an error because Setup
>>looks for files with case sensitive manner.
It's unclear what "Setup" you're talking about here. When faced with a
cross-platform utility and case-sensitivity issues on CD-Rs, though,
there are four basic solutions:
1) Create an ISO-9660 CD-R with filename references in lowercase.
DOS and Windows are case-insensitive, and so won't mind this detail,
but it'll work in Linux this way.
2) Create an ISO-9660 CD-R and use uppercase filename references, then
mount the CD-R in Linux with appropriate options to force the case to
upper (specifically, -o map=off). This may not work, though, because
most ISO-9660 CD-Rs include VMS-style filename version numbers (e.g.,
FOO.TXT;1), which will cause their own problems.
3) Create an ISO-9660 CD-R with Rock Ridge extensions, and be sure
the case in Rock Ridge matches the case in whatever programs or files
reference the filenames.
4) Create an ISO-9660 CD-R with Joliet extensions and be sure the case
in the Joliet portion matches the case in whatever programs or files
reference the filenames.
All this assumes you're looking for Linux/Windows compatibility. Not all
Unixes mount ISO-9660 using lowercase filenames, and not all support
Joliet. If you need general Unix compatibility, option #3 is probably
the best. If you need to burn a Rock Ridge CD-R from Windows, you'll
need software that can do the job. Not many commercial CD-R packages
will do this, but you can create a CD-R image file with a Windows port
of mkisofs, then burn that to CD-R with most Windows CD-R packages.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD out-serve Linux ?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:24:34 GMT
Arctic Storm writes:
> Netcraft keeps track of web sites with long uptimes. Top 50 were ranked,
> and majority of the servers ran on FreeBSD, and Linux was not listed. I
> thought that Linux had a large chunk of web servers,... Should I give
> FreeBSD a try?
If uptime is what you want, try VMS.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cLIeNUX user)
Crossposted-To: gnu.bash
Subject: Re: Bash arrays
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:35:59 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I'm trying to create an array from a string using bash.
>I've tried to do the following:
>
>$ cat array_test
>#!/bin/bash
>
>declare -a myarr
>
>echo "hello world" | read -a myarr
>
>echo "myarr[0]=${myarr[0]}"
>echo "myarr[1]=${myarr[1]}"
>
>$ ./array_test
>myarr[0]=
>myarr[1]=
>
>Any ideas how I can split the string into an array of words with bash?
>I'd like to use space or tab as field separators.
>
>
Split the string with brace-expansion operations. This doesn't answer your
question, but this is my favorite brace-expansion demo...
echo -e \
{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f}\
{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f\\n}
Rick Hohensee
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:45:14 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Walt wrote:
>
> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
>
> And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> the election debacle that ensued.
So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
counties?
Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
a Democrat election board to do things properly?
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Jem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard mapping and ster
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:55:32 -0000
Nope, I wouldn't be surprised either :-) But it is there :-(
If I type "cat" and hit enter lo-and-behold POUND SYMBOLS. As soon as I
hit ctrl-c and return to the shell prompt I can't get the pound symbol.
I've tried 2 different shells (ash & bash) and the result is the same.
Jem
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Howdy,
> I wouldn't be surprised if default font map has no pound
> symbol since there is none on the us keyboard.
> G'luck,
> MiKe
>
> -=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
>
> NO> Anyone any hints?
>
> NO> Jeremy
>
> --- MultiMail/Linux v0.31
>
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From: "Tom I. Horvei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Small Linux: Trouble creating boot disk
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:26:51 +0100
I am trying to install Small Linux onto an old Toshiba portable. I have
downloaded the boot and root files, but when attempting to make a boot disk
using these on my Win 98 pc, I am told that the disk is too small. I use DD
disks.
Suggestions, anyone?
brgds;
Tom
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From: David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File system/Superblock problems
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:16:32 -0500
Okay here's the fdisk output. The partition with the problem was
/dev/hdb1
~# fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 255 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 256 510 2048287+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda3 511 523 104422+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda4 524 562 313267+ 83 Linux
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 524 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 1 510 4096543+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 511 524 112455 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 511 524 112423+ 82 Linux swap
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > try one of the following superblock locations:
> > > 32768
> > 32768 worked
> >
>
> Stil run Findpart as svend-olaf mentioned, as there must be a reason why
> this
> has happened.
> (Or post `fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]` here)
>
> Eric
>
>
>
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From: Cristian Sava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serial port comunication
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:59:12 -0500
Hello!
I would like to transfer some files through the serial port from my linux
server to another machine and I can not figure out how to do it. I looked
into
the /dev directory, but I could not figure out which of those devices could
be
the serial port(COM1 or COM2). And I suppose some piece of software would be
needed as well for enabling communication. Where can I find it?
Please excuse my ignorance,
Cristian
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:00:08 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I get rid of "bash"?
Doney wrote:
> Actually I don't want the GUI.
> I am in command line mode, but I am limited on what I can do. Even in root.
> I am inside something( sorry new to linux) that
> wont let me do any of the configuration of TURBO LINUX. Let's say: before
> I was able to access my network setup and an interface to
> activate/deactivate
> programs/modules.
> Doney, Thanks
i'd say u either really do want the GUI or you need to get back into the
installation program.
or u need to learn what u r doing, by reading a book, before u do it
without more info we cant keep guessing.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:56:28 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: safe rm
Ian Ellis wrote:
> That sounds like the old Novell trick of keeping track of deleted files
> until the actual data blocks have been overwritten.
>
> Don't know of anything that works like that.
>
>
wouldn't an alias that is setup to mv the file to a directory somewhere
do the job?
> "S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Do you know a program that replace the ordinary rm with 'safe rm' that
>>>
>>> Your shell. Define an alias.
>>>
>>>> move the objects into a 'trash folder' instead of delete it right away?
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial port comunication
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:33:22 +0100
Cristian Sava wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I would like to transfer some files through the serial port from my linux
> server to another machine and I can not figure out how to do it. I looked
> into
> the /dev directory, but I could not figure out which of those devices could
> be
> the serial port(COM1 or COM2). And I suppose some piece of software would be
> needed as well for enabling communication. Where can I find it?
> Please excuse my ignorance,
>
> Cristian
>
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Hello,
COM1 should be /dev/ttyS0
COM2 == /dev/ttyS1
copied from another post I made on usenet some times ago:
[]
to really test if it's working,if you have no device to attach,
take a second computer and connect serial1 (/dev/ttyS0) with a
"null-modem-cabel"
((Txd/Rxd) cable are changed) to serial (/dev/ttyS0) of the other
machine.
Now type (as root):
cat </dev/ttyS0 on the receiving machine
On the sending one type:
echo hello >/dev/ttyS0
Change sender/receiver to know if it's working the other way too...:-)
[]
Read the Linux Serial HowTo for more info:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DivX;-) with xmps?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:47:08 +0100
Hi folks!
Yes, I want to watch my divX movies with Linux. Tried to use xmps, getting
the message
xmps: error in loading shared libraries: libsmpeg-0.4.so.0: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Also tried to install smpeg-0.4.0-5.i386.rpm which I found using google.
But rpm gives me an error message like:
"only packages with major numbers <=3 are supported by this version of RPM"
What could I do???
Thanks!!
Johannes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juan Meneses)
Subject: Re: DivX;-) with xmps?
Date: 16 Feb 2001 12:18:26 GMT
Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<96j3sc$cjv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>But rpm gives me an error message like:
>
>"only packages with major numbers <=3 are supported by this version of RPM"
>
>What could I do???
Upgrade your rpm package. (Get the new package and run rpm -Uvh <file>.)
--
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winders Millenium and the mbr.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:27:26 +0100
> Does Winders Millenium take over the mbr? I've installed linux in the
past
> on machines with Win98 present and it set itself up as a dual boot box, no
> problem. Just got a WinMe box and things have gone way south. I can boot
> Linux but when I try to go for the Windows boot it just says it's starting
> Me and then hangs. Vendor of course can't be bothered to support Linux so
> that's not much help. (If it were'nt for relatives I'd have the whole
thign
> as a Linux box, so please let's not get into that argument.)
Were is what installed?
What's in lilo.conf?
What have you tried yet?
We have far to little information to help you
Eric
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:28:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> Robert Surenko writes:
> :>> It also takes faith to believe the Universe is as appears to the 5
> :>> senses.
> :> I don't.
> : Good, Materialist bore me.
> How interesting an explanation is has no bering whatsoever on
> whether or not it is true. The universe does not pander to
> our amusements.
My comments where not being used as a proof. I am bored by Materialist
because their phylosophy is so easily shown to be false.
Now a follower of scientifc positivism or a sophist... that's a
discussion.
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File system/Superblock problems
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:35:22 +0100
> Okay here's the fdisk output. The partition with the problem was
> /dev/hdb1
You'd better make hdb2 type 0x85.
Windows will then no longer see that non-existing D:
It may well be the reason that this corruption happened.
PS. where is the rest of hda?
You only use that disc partially (WHY)?
It claims to have 1401 cylinders, and the last cyl. you use is 562.
You cannot use the rest of that disc unless you repartition, because you ran
out of
primary partitions.
Eric
> ~# fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1401 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 255 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda2 256 510 2048287+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 511 523 104422+ 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda4 524 562 313267+ 83 Linux
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 524 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 1 510 4096543+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb2 511 524 112455 5 Extended
> /dev/hdb5 511 524 112423+ 82 Linux swap
>
>
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From: "Marcus Rudolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what meens the +
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:38:16 +0100
If I use the ls -A command I get a plus at the end of the line for some
files. What does it mean?
TIA
Marcus
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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small Linux: Trouble creating boot disk
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:58:18 GMT
"Tom I. Horvei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xn6j6.109$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to install Small Linux onto an old Toshiba portable. I have
> downloaded the boot and root files, but when attempting to make a boot
disk
> using these on my Win 98 pc, I am told that the disk is too small. I use
DD
> disks.
>
You could succeed with a minimal kernel on a DD disk and the initial ramdisk
on another. In any case a DD disk is damned cramped quarters for Linux.
See the Bootdisk-HOWTO.
Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi
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