Linux-Misc Digest #126, Volume #25               Thu, 13 Jul 00 19:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot? (Guy Fraser)
  Re: Problems with modules on 2.2.13 [SMP] (Chris J/#6)
  Default Printer Font (Mike Fontenot)
  AIM on linux cannot find libjava.so on start.
  Cannot find libjava.so when starting AIM!!!
  Ahhhg Mount altering file access ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: X protocol vs. XDMCP (michael james obrien)
  Changing Prompt Color (Kevin Brown)
  Re: Default Printer Font (Robert Heller)
  Re: fonts problem in Netscape (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Truetype -> Type1 font converter (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Default Printer Font (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: RPM misery... Help please. (Nicholas Murison)
  undelete directory? (Marcus Bergmann)
  Re: Ahhhg Mount altering file access ("Keiichi")
  Re: RPM misery... Help please. (Chumkil)
  Re: RPM misery... Help please. (Philip Chapman)
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" (brian moore)
  changing resolution ("D & S")
  winmodems ("Mimo")
  Re: Kernel too big ("Victor")
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" (Flukezero)

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From: Guy Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:59:26 -0600

Darren Welson wrote:
>
> Is it possible to install a Linux distribution to a CD-R and boot to the
> CD-ROM?  How about copy and existing install to a CD-R and boot from this?
> I know that the OS needs to access certain files that would be now rendered
> unchangeable, but is it feasable to get around this?
> I want to burn these to CDs so I can use this like a removable HD.
>

Read the CD-Writing-HOWTO and the "/usr/doc/mkisofs-*/README.eltorito"
files.

It explains how to make a bootable (eltorito) CD.

Note: You should not try to put more than 620MB on the CD, do to file
system
overhead.

Here is a brief example of how to build the CD from the documentation.

# export CDROOT=/home/user/images/test-cd/
# mkdir $CDROOT

Put the CD's contents into $CDROOT, and make a boot directory if you
havent already.

# dd if=/dev/fd0 of=$CDROOT/boot/boot.img
# cd $CDROOT
# mkisofs -b boot/boot.img -c boot/boot.catalog -o ../bootcd.iso .

The boot.catalog file should be created automaticaly, and the CDs
iso9660 image
will be created into the ../bootcd.iso file.

Here are the instructions to mount CDs iso9660 image to verify it.
# mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 bootcd.iso /mnt/cdrom

# cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,6,0  -data  cd_image

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problems with modules on 2.2.13 [SMP]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jul 2000 22:18:35 +0100

Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Could this be a problem with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS?  (However, I thought that
>then the symbols usually looked more mangled ...)
>
>-- 
>Paul Kimoto

Well, I found the problem and it was partly down to RedHat doing things to
the Makefile, and me for not actually what RedHat had done to the makefile.

I'm used to nice, simple, clean, non-vendor-hacked source trees, so after 
building a kernel, muggins 'ere copied System.map quite innocently into
/boot.

After getting bored one day at work, about three weeks after I'd done this,
and a couple of days after being bored again so revisiting the problem and
from there posting the original post (with me here? :) I found that the 
kernel *wasn't* loading the symbols in System.map, but rather, annoyingly
enough, was loading the symbols from System.map-2.2.13-0.13.

Anyhow...after much cursing of Redhat, and the decision that there was no
way I was going to try and config a system that puts silly suffixes(*) 
on the end of files, I grabbed a clean 2.2.14 (I use 2.2.14 at home, I know
it works...2.2.15 and higher I've not touched yet), and built that.

No more mangled files with mangled names. Huzzah! :)

To return to your point though, regarding CONFIG_MODVERSIONS, I had all
versioning info switched on, and insmod/modprove is more prone to say something
akin to "Module built for kernel x.y.z" where x.y.z does not match 2.2.13 (or
2.2.14, now)...and refuses to load the module (trust me on this - I have a
binary-only module for a network card, and can I get linux to install it?
Can I hell ... 2.2.5 uni-processor binary doesn't want to go into a 2.2.14 SMP
system. Not really that suprised its not working :) Thankfully, the vendor
provided a generic modified tulip driver source, and together with a channel
bonding patch, I can get round the fact the module isn't working). 

So now all is good, stuff is froody, and the machine is working nicely. :)

Chris...

(*) the silly suffixes may be a controversial point here - but when you've
been playing with linux for 5 years, and never touched a vendor-kernel, the
last thing you expect(+) is for them to modify how the damn thing makes...

(+) well, I suppose if you research correctly, you'll be prepared for this
problem and get round it...but I do find it an annoyance.

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From: Mike Fontenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Default Printer Font
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:25:27 +0000


Does anyone know what determines the default printer
font?  I have a postscript printer, and when I print
an ASCII file using just "lpr", the font used is too
small on the SuSE 6.4 system I just installed, whereas
on my old Redhat 5.0 system, the font is fine.

        Mike Fontenot
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AIM on linux cannot find libjava.so on start.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:30:05 GMT

Does anyone know why whenever I start up AIM for linux it says it cannot
find libjava.so but it is in the aim/jre1.1.3/lib directory. I am running
586 machine.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot find libjava.so when starting AIM!!!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:30:06 GMT

Does anyone konow why that file cannot be found when I run the aim script
in Linux?  I looked in the jre1.1.3/lib/i586 directory and it was in there.
I have a 586.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ahhhg Mount altering file access
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:33:26 GMT

I have an empty directory called "/usr/local/share/win98"
I did a "chmod 777 /usr/local/share/win98"

No problem it is now 777.

I mount my win98 partition /dev/sda2

"mount /dev/sda2 /usr/local/share/win98 -t vfat -o defaults"

They I check the access of the /usr/local/share/win98 directory and its
contents and it has all changed.  I need all users in group users to
have full access to the contents of this directory.

If I do a "chmod -R 777 /usr/local/share/win98" nothing happens, i.e.
only ROOT has 7 access to the contents of the directory.

The owning user is ROOT and the group is ROOT.

What am I doing wrong?

Any help will be well received.

--
MM


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Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (michael james obrien)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: X protocol vs. XDMCP
Date: 13 Jul 2000 21:53:04 GMT

Hsinko Yu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello all,
:   I know that XDMCP is used to communicate with the X Display Manager (XDM)
: running on a host machine. But after we login successfully and start some
: applications (x clients), what is the protocol between remote 'x clients'
: and local 'x server' ?

It is X.  However, you also use the window manager on the remote machine
if you use XDMCP.  This is the primary difference as I understand it.


: X protocol or XDMCP?
: If it is XDMCP, then an XDM is not only a graphical login interface but also
: an interpreter.
: Please correct me if my concept is wrong.
: Any help would be greatly appreciated.
: Thanks,
:                  Hsinko



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From: Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Changing Prompt Color
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:52:23 GMT

How do I change the color of the prompt when using bash or tcsh?  Also,
how do I get it to display the full path instead of just the current
directory?

Thanks,
Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Default Printer Font
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:54:51 GMT

  Mike Fontenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:25:27 +0000, wrote :

MF> Does anyone know what determines the default printer
MF> font?  I have a postscript printer, and when I print
MF> an ASCII file using just "lpr", the font used is too
MF> small on the SuSE 6.4 system I just installed, whereas
MF> on my old Redhat 5.0 system, the font is fine.

Don't know what SuSE does, the filter used by Redhat 5.2 uses mpage. 
>From the mpage man page:

       -Ffontname
              Specify font. Default is Courier.


MF> 
MF>     Mike Fontenot
MF>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MF>                                   






                                                          
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: fonts problem in Netscape
Date: 13 Jul 2000 21:57:02 GMT

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:06:01 GMT, Mike Frisch wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:38:25 -0400, Michael Proto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've got mine set at 04 and the fonts are still unmanagable.  Some fonts
>are too large and some are too small.  I cannot find a happy medium.

Make sure your fonts are scalable, ie your defasult fonts should be true type 
or type one, NOT bitmaps.

-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Truetype -> Type1 font converter
Date: 13 Jul 2000 21:59:43 GMT

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:44:29 +0200, Martin Duspiva wrote:
>I'm looking for a program, that would convert my TrueType fonts from Win. to
>Type1. I know there's a font server that can handle TT fonts directly, but
>conversion would be useful for printing..

I invite you to check out my font HOWTO, 
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/

Now in answer to your question, I link to a converter in my HOWTO, it's
called ttf2pt1. 

But you don't need the Type1 fonts to print. Ghostscript does and has 
supported True Type for a long time ( and I explain how to set it up
in ... plug plug ... the font howto )

Cheers,
-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Default Printer Font
Date: 13 Jul 2000 22:01:15 GMT

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:25:27 +0000, Mike Fontenot wrote:
>
>Does anyone know what determines the default printer
>font?  I have a postscript printer, and when I print
>an ASCII file using just "lpr", the font used is too
>small on the SuSE 6.4 system I just installed, whereas
>on my old Redhat 5.0 system, the font is fine.

Dunnno. What I do know is that you can get better control over
appearance if you print with a2ps.

Cheers,
-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: 13 Jul 2000 22:04:26 GMT

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:29:41 -0400, Flukezero wrote:
>Biao Wu wrote:
>

>      Go into the dir where the file is and type "rm *2210*"  that should
>rm any files that contain 2210 in their names.

Nope -- the shell will expand it to rm --2210... and you're back to square
one.

-- 
Donovan

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From: Nicholas Murison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM misery... Help please.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:03:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chumkil wrote:
> 
> [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -Uvh ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm
> package ssh-1.2.27-7us is already installed
> 
> error: package ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm is not installed

ERROR: package name is not the same as package filename:

[root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20

should work better.  Otherwise you could try:

[root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -q -a | grep ssh

which will give you a list of installed packages that have "ssh" in
their name.  Then all you need to do is to home in on the package you
want to get rid of and do the rpm -e stuff using that package name.
-- 
Nicholas John Murison
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't mess with penguins
Registered Linux User #153895   http://counter.li.org

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From: Marcus Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: undelete directory?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:20:23 +0200

Is there a way to undelete removed directories? If it is so, how can i
do it?

Thanks, Marcus

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From: "Keiichi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ahhhg Mount altering file access
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:14:24 +0200

Hi

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message : 8klcj7$3nh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have an empty directory called "/usr/local/share/win98"
> I did a "chmod 777 /usr/local/share/win98"
>
> No problem it is now 777.
>
> I mount my win98 partition /dev/sda2
>
> "mount /dev/sda2 /usr/local/share/win98 -t vfat -o defaults"
>
> They I check the access of the /usr/local/share/win98 directory and its
> contents and it has all changed.  I need all users in group users to
> have full access to the contents of this directory.
>

vfat doesn't support permissions. They are emulated by the kernel. It
doesn't use the permissions of the directory in which it is mounted but
those specified by the 'umask' option.

You should use :

    mount /dev/sda2 /usr/local/share/win98 -t vfat -o defaults,umask=xxx

with xxx the good umask (000 I guess)...

> If I do a "chmod -R 777 /usr/local/share/win98" nothing happens, i.e.
> only ROOT has 7 access to the contents of the directory.
>
> The owning user is ROOT and the group is ROOT.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Any help will be well received.
>
> --
> MM
>
Bye

--
Sylvain DEFRESNE



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From: Chumkil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM misery... Help please.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:30:56 -0700



Nicholas Murison wrote:

> Chumkil wrote:
> >
> > [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -Uvh ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm
> > package ssh-1.2.27-7us is already installed
> >
> > error: package ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm is not installed
>
> ERROR: package name is not the same as package filename:
>
> [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20
>
> should work better.  Otherwise you could try:
>
> [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -q -a | grep ssh
>
> which will give you a list of installed packages that have "ssh" in
> their name.  Then all you need to do is to home in on the package you
> want to get rid of and do the rpm -e stuff using that package name.
> --
> Nicholas John Murison
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Don't mess with penguins
> Registered Linux User #153895   http://counter.li.org

Thanks for the help, but as you can see:

[root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -q -a | grep ssh
ssh-1.2.27-7us

There is only one package. :/

# rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20
error: package ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20 is not installed

I have encountered this before once or twice on my home system, but its
not a worry there. Here, on a production system
that I *NEED* SSH on, this becomes a real pain in the ass.

Any other ideas?







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From: Philip Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM misery... Help please.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:37:38 GMT

Chumkil wrote:
> 
> Nicholas Murison wrote:
> 
> > Chumkil wrote:
> > >
> > > [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -Uvh ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm
> > > package ssh-1.2.27-7us is already installed
> > >
> > > error: package ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20.i386.rpm is not installed
> >
> > ERROR: package name is not the same as package filename:
> >
> > [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20
> >
> > should work better.  Otherwise you could try:
> >
> > [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -q -a | grep ssh
> >
> > which will give you a list of installed packages that have "ssh" in
> > their name.  Then all you need to do is to home in on the package you
> > want to get rid of and do the rpm -e stuff using that package name.
> > --
> > Nicholas John Murison
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Don't mess with penguins
> > Registered Linux User #153895   http://counter.li.org
> 
> Thanks for the help, but as you can see:
> 
> [root@myhouse openssh]# rpm -q -a | grep ssh
> ssh-1.2.27-7us

Here, it is telling you the package name is ssh-1.2.27-7us

> 
> There is only one package. :/
> 
> # rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20
> error: package ssh-1.2.27-7us_glibc20 is not installed
> 
> I have encountered this before once or twice on my home system, but its
> not a worry there. Here, on a production system
> that I *NEED* SSH on, this becomes a real pain in the ass.
> 
> Any other ideas?

rpm -e ssh-1.2.27-7us

-- 
Philip A. Chapman
IT Manager for Alliance TeleSolutions

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: 13 Jul 2000 22:38:29 GMT

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:53:25 +0200, 
 Keiichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Biao Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hi, all
> >
> >    Got a tricky problem. Somehow a file named "-002210" was created in
> > a directory. I had no idea how to get rid of it 'cause commands like
> > rm, cp, cat all regard everything after "-" as an option. So if I type
> >
> > rm ?002210
> >
> 
> You have to use the '--' option. It tell to rm (and cp, mv, ...) that there
> is no more options after this one.
> 
>     rm -- -002210

or rm ./-002210

> > I would get
> >
> > rm: invalid option --0
> >
> > Similar with cp and cat.  Anyone got an idea to remove this file?
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Biao
> 
> Bye
> 
> 


-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: "D & S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: changing resolution
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:44:01 GMT

Hi,

I seem to remember someone posting a command here that allowed you to change
your screen resolution rather easily.  I'm not sure if it was specific to
Red Hat Linux or not.  All I remember is that it was a single command and
voila the resolution was changed.  It didn't require you to modify any files
or re-run XConfigurator or XF86setup.  Thanks for any ideas.

    - Doug -



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Reply-To: "Mimo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Mimo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: winmodems
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 07:39:54 GMT

Hello, this is my first message here.

I�ve got a Supramax 56 Voice PCI -winmodem-, and I�ve seen some drivers for
LT winmodems at linmodems.org. Does anybody know if these drivers works with
Supramax? Has anybody the same modem working in Linux. Unfortunately, I��ve
got to write this message in W98 8:o(

Thanks a lot

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From: "Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:00:42 GMT

By they, I mean intel. I am aware of sparc and ppc and etc, but for whatever
reasons, they have difficulty competing with intel in the userspace/small
server arena. I don't want a niche machine. I like intel because they are a
market leader and they don't cost an arm and a leg. Sparc is way to
expensive and there is no support for anything other than Solaris. PPC is
coming along, but still there are no solutions that would let you build your
own machine from spare parts and very limited (if not nonexistant) vendor
support (unless you're buying a mac or a supercomputer from ibm). Alpha is
also way to expensive and only comes into play when you are comparing prices
to Xeons, or something in that category. What chip in RISC segment actually
competes with Pent III 600? Maybe some PPC that can only be bought in a mac
and that would cost you twice as much. The problems in the Intel bios aren't
that big to justify a switch, and would not even be an issue if they were
fixed (well, they aren't broken, but say reingineered).

"John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Victor writes:
> > Is i386 ready for update or what?  Oo, how I wish they would move on to
> > something better.
>
> What do you mean, "they"?  You want an Alpha or a SPARC or a PPC, just get
> one.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin



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From: Flukezero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:03:38 -0400

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:29:41 -0400, Flukezero wrote:
> >Biao Wu wrote:
> >
>
> >      Go into the dir where the file is and type "rm *2210*"  that should
> >rm any files that contain 2210 in their names.
>
> Nope -- the shell will expand it to rm --2210... and you're back to square
> one.
>
> --
> Donovan

    Ok I got it this time.  I created the file at /home/flukezero, I typed
"rm /home/flukezero/-2210" and wham it's gone, just type in the entire path
to the file


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