Linux-Misc Digest #126, Volume #27               Fri, 16 Feb 01 16:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: NFS + pine? (Eduardo Chappa)
  Re: removing a kernel from lilo (Tyler Larson)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
  Re: Mail Server (POP3) setup ? (marmolejo)
  Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
  Re: Where to put hdparm ("me")
  Printer won't respond to 'cat testfile > /dev/lp0' (Tom Law)
  Re: exec hangs from .bash_profile ("Mark Winsor")
  Pan 0.9.3 geometry ("me")
  Re: Keyboard mapping and (Mike Mcclain)
  reading text from other t (Mike Mcclain)
  Kernel 2.4.0 - unresolved symbols on modules (James Denson)
  Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: How to play .s3m in xmms/gamp/other mp3 player? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl?= 
(Ridiculum))
  Re: exec hangs from .bash_profile ("Harlan Grove")

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NFS + pine?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:05:51 -0800

*** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in comp.os.linux.misc on Feb 15, 2001:

:) I have an NFS server with a directory export like this:
[snip]
:) Is there any special trick to work around this?

Pine does not work well with NFS, the only work around is using IMAP to
connect to the server to read your mail.

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/


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From: Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing a kernel from lilo
Date: 16 Feb 2001 19:04:06 GMT

Sudhakar R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi

> i recently installed win4lin and laer decided i didn't want it. so how do
> i go about uninstalling it. and how do i remove it from the lilo startup
> screen. i use RH 7.0

> thanx in advance
> -sud


If win4lin was installed via RPM, you can simply type

rpm -e Win4Lin

and in theory it will all go away.  If it says win4lin isn't installed
(and it probably will, becuase that's not likely what the package is
called) try typing

rpm -qa | grep win4lin

and see if it displays the real package name (then just put that name
where I wrote "win4lin" in that first command).  If nothing pops up,
try

rpm -qa > ~/rpmlist

to generate a file in your home directory that contains a list of all the
installed RPMs.  Then you can look through it for a likely candidate.



If you decide to do the lilo hacking yourself, here's a quick guide:

First, make a backup boot disk, 'cause if you screw up, your computer won't
boot.  Do it with the following command:

/sbin/lilo -b /dev/fd0

with a writable floppy in the drive.  That will install lilo on the
floppy with the current parameters (which you know work, though you don't
like them).

Next you need to edit your your /etc/lilo.conf file.  Make a backup 
copy first.

It should look something like this:

******* IMPORTANT *******
Yours will be different than this.  Don't copy mine or you'll
screw things up.  Just change what needs to be changed in yours.
*******
_______________

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
linear
default=win4lin

image=/boot/vmlinuz
        label=linux
        read-only
        root=/dev/hda1

other=/dev/hdb1
        label=dos

# Note saying that the rest was added
# by the Win4Lin installer

image=/boot/win4lin
        label=win4lin
        read-only
        root=/dev/hda1

_________________


To set the default image back to the old one, just change the
line that says 'default=...' up at the top.  To remove one of
the images compeletely from the menu, delete (or comment out)
that section of the file.

If you delete an image that was set as the default, you'll probably
want to change the default to one fo the ones that's still left.

Once you're done, type

/sbin/lilo

to activate the changes.

Its pretty painless if you do it right.

-- 
Tyler Larson  |  http://www.tlarson.com  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is sweet to let the mind unbend on occasion.
                -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:29:50 -0000

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:54:03 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:00:09 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:45 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>>>
>>>Perhaps, although humankind existed for 100,000 years without
>>>formal science... 3 or 4 hundred years is probably not enough time
>
>>      So. That doesn't have any relevance to your own existence.
>
>I'm sure that ethics had a part to play in my eventual existence.
>
>Our parent's didn't strangle either of us at birth. I can't imagine
>Science had anything to do with that.

        Sure it did.

        It avoided the conditions necessary for such issues to
        actually exist. You and your ancestors have lead rather
        sheltered lives compared to those animals that find the
        need to eat their young.

        Also, despite your protestations: in more "spiritual"
        days you would have been considered the property of 
        your father to be disposed of accordingly.

>
>
>>      That is just empty rhetoric on your part. The fact still
>>      remains that you only exist because technology has allowed
>>      you and your forebears to live and thrive. Unless you are
>>      Amish, just about anything you have is a result of this
>>      'highly questionable' scientific method that is taken on
>>      faith.
>
>I agree, so what. I'm saying that Science depends on faith.

        That the universe works in a predictable fashion is not
        an article of faith. It is an axiom that is time tested.

[deletia]

        You can choose to violate the rules and prove us wrong
        in the process. Somehow, I suspect that you will choose
        not to for your own survival.

        If you really believe the blather your spewing, you have
        the easy position in terms of proof or disproof.

-- 

        The term "popular" is MEANINGLESS in consumer computing. DOS3
          was more "popular" than contemporary Macintoshes despite the
          likelihood that someone like you would pay the extra money to
          not have to deal with DOS3.
  
          Network effects are everything in computing. 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marmolejo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mail Server (POP3) setup ?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:06:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Con fecha Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:39:53 +0800, Eric Chow escribi�:
>Hello,
>
>Is it possible to setup a Mail Server(POP3, SMTP) through a dynamic IP ?

        Yes it is
        
>I registered a free domain in dns2go.com(mydomain.dns2go.com). So it can
>locate my server machine with this domain evrytime when I dialup.

        Better then :)
        
>How can I use this domain to setup my own email server in Linux ?

        Install QPOPPER , for example, is quiet simply
-- 
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   -      PGP Pub Key en pgp.rediris.es ID:0x64438485      -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:32:33 -0000

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:45:14 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Bloody Viking wrote:
>> 
>> Walt wrote:
>> 
>> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
>> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections.  And of
>> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
>> 
>> And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
>> the election debacle that ensued.
>
>So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
>counties?

        Republican dominated counties probably didn't have hordes
        of upset republicans demanding a recount. If there's no
        uproar, there really isn't any point to Gore serving as
        champion.

>
>Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
>a Democrat election board to do things properly?
[deletia]

        No, you just can't see past your GOP reality filters.


-- 

        Regarding Copyleft:
  
          There are more of "US" than there are of "YOU", so I don't
          really give a damn if you're mad that the L/GPL makes it
          harder for you to be a robber baron.
        
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:39:05 -0000

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:57:50 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It's possible that Christ existed, in fact I think there's more evidence than 
>> just the bible to suggest that. Nothing though suggests he was anything more 
>> than a jewish revolutionary who spoke out against the Romans. In fact there 
>> was some more evidence about that discovered recently, the subject of an 
>> interesting documentary called "the real jesus christ". It put everything in a 
>> historical perspective and made a lot of sense. About how Paul used the death 
>> of Jesus to create a religion, and hid the real man behind stories of 
>> miracles etc. Very interesting stuff and lots of political intrigue and 
>> infighting.
>
>Yes, it is possible to believe a event happened in the past...even
>if the event can't be repeated.
>
>That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
>was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
>proving a historical event.

        Dig up the skeleton.

[deletia]

        Then again, you are blathering about an historical even that
        was caught on tape and who's firsthand witnesses are still
        living.

        OTOH, it would not shatter my sanity to find out that it was
        all a load of hooey. I'm more worried about whether or not a
        CRT will suddenly electrocute me or if the wings of a 727
        will rip off.

        Here, you are only criticising a field of study (not necessarily
        even a science) that most of the hard line materialists here 
        would themselves call "weak at best" anyways.

-- 

        Finding an alternative should not be like seeking out the holy grail.
  
        That is the whole damn point of capitalism.   
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From: "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to put hdparm
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:55:25 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David Efflandt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:37:21 GMT, Pete Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>In which rc.d file is the correct place to put "hdparm -d1 -X34" so that
>>these params are set on boot?  Or better yet, perhaps they should be
>>compiled into the kernel?
> 
> Compile a command into the kernel?  Put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> (preferably with full path to hdparm in case it is not in the PATH).

I put it at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local (wow... transfers really
improved), and I added the switch -S120, but the hdd never sleeps.
It is ALWAYS spinning.  It is a mini-B52 sound maker.  I have disabled
all deamons/services/cron-jobs at startup, and still no sleepy time.
Here is what is running:

top, init, kflushd, kupdate, kpiod, kswapd, minilogd, login -- root,
tty[2-6], bash

I imagine the ones with 'd' at the end are deamons... but how/can I?
turn them off?

Even wincrap put the hdd to sleep after the amount of inactivity I tell
it to.  But who wants to use wincrap anymore?

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From: Tom Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Printer won't respond to 'cat testfile > /dev/lp0'
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:04:25 -0600

I can't get my printer to print to my Canon BJC-2010 from either of my
new RH6.2 installations: my router or my (dual-booting) laptop.  The
laptop WILL print to it when booted into Win98, and the router WILL
print to it when I boot it from a Win98 hard drive.  In both Win98s, the

IRQ is automatically set to "7".
The following info is also true for both machines:
==================
- after booting up, there is nothing about parport or IRQ7 showing in
the /proc directory.
Is that normal?
===================
- But after I try a 'cat /etc/printcap > /dev/lp0' (which produces NO
response from the printer), I _do_ find a /proc/parport directory, with
an '0' directory, containing 4 entries.  The 'hardware' entry shows
     base:    0x378
     irq:       7
     dma:    none
     modes:    SPP,PS2
When I run 'dmesg', I see
     parport 0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [SPP,PS2]
     parport 0: Printer, Canon BJC-2000, and
     lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven)
Does all that look reasonable?  Or should there be a setting for the
dma?
====================
My /etc/conf.modules file contains the lines
     alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc  and
     options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7,auto

What should I now try?  I've run out of ideas.


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From: "Mark Winsor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: exec hangs from .bash_profile
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:54:04 -0500

I tried it with ash and it works fine. I haven't tried it with ksh but I
believe it is specific to bash.

"Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:B8Yi6.8670$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mark Winsor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:yXRi6.520$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >I have it working that way but it does waste a process. It is just that
> >every other Unix like OS I have used (AIX, Solaris, SVr4, SCO, Unixware,
> >Xenix, etc) using sh or ksh allowed this and I was wondering why bash
> under
> >Linux doesn't.
> ...
>
> Have you tried this with ash or ksh under linux? Maybe the problem is
> specifically with bash.
>
>



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From: "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pan 0.9.3 geometry
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:01:27 GMT

How to resize the main window (806x520)?  I have a 800x600 resolution and
Pan is to big, I resize it and tell the different window managers (e,
windowmaker, sawfish, etc) to remember the size,,, Pan ignores it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Re: Keyboard mapping and
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:04:09 GMT

Howdy Jem,
    Well we've exceeded my expertise, I'm just a novice who's
been exploring the key mappings lately trying to get bash's
readline editing functions and an editor (lpe) to work like I
want.
    I noticed in the ash man page that both shells can use 
/etc/profile and ~/.profile so anything done there would
be reflected in both shells.
    Is there any chance that ash is a link to bash?
'ls -l /bin/ash /bin/bash' will show same size if so.
    bash readline sources /etc/inputrc and/or ~/.inputrc to
do some keyboard remapping, but I don't think ash does.
    stty also does some mapping, 'stty -a' will show you what.
    The tools I've found for tracking down the mappings are:
1) stty's lnext function which is typically mapped to ^v or ^q,
    where ^==control.
2) dumpkeys especially the '-f' switch, but don't ignore the others
3) showkey -s -k -a all show different representations of the info
4) getkeycodes gives you another view of the scancode to keycode 
    mapping.
5) bash's bind -d (for bash1) or -p (for bash2) will show bash
    mappings.
    I hope you'll share the answer when you find it.

I wish you luck,
MiKe

-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-

 NO> Nope, I wouldn't be surprised either :-) But it is there :-(

 NO> If I type "cat" and hit enter lo-and-behold POUND SYMBOLS. As soon as I
 NO> hit ctrl-c and return to the shell prompt I can't get the pound symbol.

 NO> I've tried 2 different shells (ash & bash) and the result is the same.

 NO> Jem
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: reading text from other t
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:04:09 GMT

Howdy,
 I think what you want is ttysnoop.
G'Luck,
MiKe

-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-

 KO> Is possible to read data/text from other terminal?

 
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From: James Denson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.4.0 - unresolved symbols on modules
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:23:51 +0000

Deja's out (damn Google...), so I'm forced to ask this question. Feel
free to shout and redirect me to a better group...

Anyway, got hold of the 2.4.0 kernel, installed all the prerequisites,
and comiled fine. Woohoo, my 45Gb hard drive is finally working fine
(don't ask why, but it seemed a good idea to sit linux right at the
end after 43Gb of Win2k)

Then copied this whole disk over to my Linux server, as it needed
setting up for the first time.

Whole lot worked untill I needed a few more modules compiled up. As
the old Dual P90 server machine was too slow, I used the Athlon
machine to do the compiling, and then tarred and copied the ftp'd
source tree accross before make modules (NFS not working as the kernel
isn't compiled for it yet... :-()

For some reason now, *ANY* newly compiled module on either machine
will not load, spurting off a load of grumbles about unresolved
symbols. Hence I've now got to compile the kernel for the server with
NIC Drivers, NFS, SMB, PPP etc as kernel code rather than modules.

I've had a good look through relevent HOWTO's etc, nothing seems to
give. The only major component the kernel README didn't mention was
libc. I'm runing 2.1 at the mo.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

James D

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:25:11 -0500



Salvador Peralta wrote:
> 
> > Walt wrote:
> >
> > : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people
> > : in
> > : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections.  And of
> > : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> 
> As someone who lives in Los Angeles, I can say that none of this made
> the press here.  Can you show us a source to support the claim of
> election improprieties in LA, or are you just privvy to information
> that the rest of us are unaware of?

That's what "motor voter" was all about....getting illegal
immigrants onto the voting rolls.


> 
> --
> 
> Salvador Peralta                   -o)
> Programmer/Analyst, Webmaster      / \
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]       _\_v
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:31:11 -0500



Ian Davey wrote:
> 
> In article <96gu50$te$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) wrote:
> >Their is certainly a strong element of faith in science.  We
> >accept the existence of that we have no direct knowledge (muons,
> >for instance) based upon the assurances of people we have no
> >direct knowledge.  Is it really that far a stretch to believe
> >Christ existed based on the works of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
> >than to believe black holes exist.
> 
> That's flawed. The existence of things like muons is theoretical, scientists
> come up with theories to explain things and then others gather evidence to
> either prove or disprove it. Atoms were also just theory at one point, but
> through experimentation and the improvement of microscopes etc. their
> existence was proved. That's how science works and how it moves forward. I've
> not heard of muons so can't comment on that particular theory, but it'll
> either be proven or disproven eventually. Or another theory (or breakthrough)
> will take it's place.
> 
> It's possible that Christ existed, in fact I think there's more evidence than
> just the bible to suggest that. Nothing though suggests he was anything more
> than a jewish revolutionary who spoke out against the Romans. In fact there
> was some more evidence about that discovered recently, the subject of an
> interesting documentary called "the real jesus christ". It put everything in a
> historical perspective and made a lot of sense. About how Paul used the death
> of Jesus to create a religion, and hid the real man behind stories of
> miracles etc. Very interesting stuff and lots of political intrigue and
> infighting.
> 
> >Just as the religious rely on the collective experiences of those
> >who have gone before,  so does science.  You certainly do not
> >perform experiments to prove every article of science you encounter,
> >you rely on faith that your predecessors performed their experiments
> >correctly.  Following the cold fusion debate,  you can witness the
> 
> The difference is though that you can repeat those experiments. You're not
> reliant on anyone else doing them. Frequently you do repeat past experiments,
> that's how science is normally taught in schools.
> 
> >uproar tha ensues when experiments appear to challenge the preheld
> >beliefs.  The reaction of physicists is to deny and attack the new
> >evidence just as fundamentalists attack evolution.  If cold fusion
> >yet proves out and is not the likely result of poorly conducted
> >experimentation,  the howls from physicists will equal the howls

10 years, and NOBODY has been able to repeat the experiment...
not even the guys who did the original experiment.

Pons and Fleishchmann went back and re-analyzed their data and
their setup, and ADMITTED THAT THEIR MATH WAS WRONG (they failed
to account for an energy input...making the non-accounted-for
energy **APPEAR** to be an energy yield...IN THE EQUATIONS.




> >of those who originally shouted down the germ theory of Pasteur or
> >the works of Charles Darwin.
> 
> If Cold Fusion were proven scientists would be jumping for joy, lots of people
> have been working towards that particular vision. It's just that without being
> repeatable, an experiment isn't really worth the paper it's written on. And if
> no one can recreate a supposed experiment, then it's clearly either a
> deception or not properly documented. In this case it appears to be the
> former.

Yes.  An "invention" that not even the inventor can duplicate is
nothing to get excited about.

Especially when the "invention" essentiall amounted to nothing more
than piece of platinum, some water, and a battery.



> 
> ian.
> 
>  \ /
> (@_@)  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
>  | |

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:05:39 -0500



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:45:14 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Bloody Viking wrote:
> >>
> >> Walt wrote:
> >>
> >> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> >> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections.  And of
> >> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> >>
> >> And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> >> the election debacle that ensued.
> >
> >So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> >counties?
> 
>         Republican dominated counties probably didn't have hordes
>         of upset republicans demanding a recount. If there's no
>         uproar, there really isn't any point to Gore serving as
>         champion.
> 
> >
> >Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
> >a Democrat election board to do things properly?
> [deletia]
> 
>         No, you just can't see past your GOP reality filters.
> 

What part of LIBERTARIAN do you not understand?


> --
> 
>         Regarding Copyleft:
> 
>           There are more of "US" than there are of "YOU", so I don't
>           really give a damn if you're mad that the L/GPL makes it
>           harder for you to be a robber baron.
> 
>                                                                 |||
>                                                                / | \

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl?= (Ridiculum))
Subject: Re: How to play .s3m in xmms/gamp/other mp3 player?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:45:18 +0000

El 9 Feb 2001 18:43:49 GMT, Andrew Purugganan escribi�:
>Do I need to recompile xmms or get a newer version? I have placed the lib 
>in the Input/Plugin but I don't think it's as simple as that. If not 
>xmms, either gamp or cplay will do. But those 2 dont recognize it. Help 
>me out please

        I think that s3m is a module. If you remmember the demo-scene, the
        music were this files. Look for a tracker or similar in
        http://www.freshmeat.net

-- 

        Miembro del grupo LILO: http://lilo.sourceforge.net
        
Linux User 157744
Red Hat 6.0 (2.2.18)
ridiculum at linuxfan . com


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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: exec hangs from .bash_profile
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:09:56 GMT

Mark Winsor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Yzfj6.600$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>I tried it with ash and it works fine. I haven't tried it with ksh but I
>believe it is specific to bash.
...

Don't bother with ksh. If it works with ash, use ash. It's small, so should
load and run(?) quicker.



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