Linux-Misc Digest #173, Volume #25               Tue, 18 Jul 00 20:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Myke Morgan)
  Re: Load Balancing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: mkisofs | cdrecord, appends 000 to filename (James Pearson)
  Re: Another distro question... (Jim Jerzycke)
  slackware (shawn)
  Re: Starting X @ boot? (Sid Thomas)
  Re: Printing - Count printed Pages? (Grant Taylor)
  Re: numerical computations under Linux (Larry Ebbitt)
  Re: Starting X @ boot? (Chem-R-Us)
  Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Voice Recording ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Need Library File ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  LILO: version 21.5 released (John in SD)
  Re: wanted: convertor .ps -> .eps (Dmitri V)
  Re: gnome logout problem (Aaron Ginn)
  Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Myke Morgan)
  Linux as PDC ("Michael J. Johnston")
  Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Dances With Crows)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Myke Morgan)
Subject: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: 18 Jul 2000 21:09:50 GMT

I have RedHat 6.2 running on a system with more or less no alterations: 
installed all right from the CD. It runs the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel. Now I am 
trying to install 2.2.16 for in order to use new driver. I downloaded the 
RPM directly from RedHat's site, but for some reason it won't find my 
root fs. The kernel starts to boot fine, and right when it seems to want 
to mount the root file system I get the message:

request_mod[block_major_8]: fs not found

My root fs is on /dev/sda5 (major device #8, which I assume is what the
message above refers to). My /boot partition is /dev/sda1 where the kernel
is located. 

The strange part is I then downloaded the RPM for 2.2.14 (what I'm 
currently running off the RedHat CDROM) and that gives the same error 
also. *sigh*

Any ideas? It seems like a module problem but the proper SCSI module 
(aic7xxx) seems to be in place.

TIA,
myke
--
I proclaim you, FOUR!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Load Balancing
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:29:29 GMT

Hmm,  E1 provisioning?   Where are you located?

Load balancing on a server basically refers to server resources spread
out over multiple machines to better handle process requests, NOT
incoming bandwidth connectivity.   Your router(s) are designed for
this, let them do the job they were made for.  

With bandwidth from 2 separate ISPs, you really should have a router
than can handle BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) to get the maximum use
of the money you are spending.  If your budget cannot handle getting
the appropriate router, just make sure you get load balancing setup
properly to make use of both circuits.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:48:47 +0100, "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Upgrading to 2 x 2MB pipes, need to know if there is a load balancing
>package for RedHat 6.2??
>
>The lines are coming from independent ISP's for maximum redundancy. If
>someone has any ideas it would be much appreciated..
>
>TIA
>
>Simon
>
>
>
>


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From: James Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkisofs | cdrecord, appends 000 to filename
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:21:06 GMT

In article <8l27qm$4b7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Unix Geek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Urgently Need Help With This one!
>
> Running the following command changes the names of several filenames
> from their filename to filename000.  I have found no common reason for
> this; however, I was able to apply some non-iso9660 flags to the
mkisofs
> command to reduce the number of files that are changed.  Has anyone
seen
> this problem and if so has anyone been able to resolve it.  I am
simply
> trying to burn a directory structure and its content to cd.
>
> The actual error goes something like this:
>
> Using /private/directory/sub-directory/filename000 for
> /private/directory/sub-directory/filename
>
> What I have noticed is the problem is not a 32 character issue and it
is
> not a filename != 8.3 so make 8.3 issue.  Again after careful review I
> have found no common reason for the problem.
>
> mkisofs -r (along with any number of non-iso9660 compliant flags)
> /private/ |cdrecord speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data -
>
>

Have you actually looked at the file names on the CD you've created?

mkisofs has to create ISO9660 names - even if you use the -r option.
When you mount the CD as a Rock Ridge CD, then you will see the
"correct" filenames. The messages printed by mkisofs are just for
information.

James Pearson



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From: Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another distro question...
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:43:56 +0000

I musta missed your original post, but why do you want to run from a
Windoze partition? There are good, free, non-destructive partitioning
tools avalable, and it's not very hard to do.
Regards, Jim


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From: shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slackware
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:46:37 GMT

hello everyone
        my friend stated that he first learned all about linux and the
like using slackware 2.x on a 386, so im thinking
    that since im getting a couple 486's pretty soon ill put slack ( or
some other 'flavor' ) on it and just destroy. and hack around. buy
mostly destroy it,
    since thats the best way to learn. anyways my main question is this:
does anyone think this is a good idea, or did anyone learn like this,
and also which flavor should i use (keep in mind this will be just a
hackaround machine - probably wont connect it to the web and definately
wont run X on it, so...) thanks

shawn


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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:01:25 -0400
From: Sid Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Starting X @ boot?

Comanche wrote:

> First you have to check /etc/inittab. Is the initdefault set to 5?
> If yes, you can check the file  /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.
> In this file the following sentence must be there:
> ":0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X" (without the quotes).
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Comanche
>
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:39:15 -0400, Sid Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   My machine boots to a bash prompt in runlevel 5. It used to boot to
> > the RedHat login screen. (6.0 that is). As I sort have mentioned, I can
> > type 'startx' @ the bash prompt and X and Gnome start just as it did
> > from the login screen.

Thank you for your response Comanche.

I have checked both items as per your instruction and they are fine. I also
checked the symbolic link /usr/X11R6/bin/X and found that it points to a file
called  XF86_Mach64. This file does not exist on my machine.

I was fortunate enough to see the same file (X) on another machine and it
pointed to XF86_SVGA. So I changed it on mine.

Now..... X comes up to a grayish screen with an X cursor that I can control
with my mouse, nothing else. (Please forgive me for I have seen that thread
before but only skimmed through it).

I have done some more reading on starting X (manually and automatically) and
found what I believe to be a problem with 'xdm'. I did a 'man xdm' and found
a heck of a lot more than I need to know. Here is a recap of my problem:

>From a standard boot (X automatically):  grayish screen.

Boot to runlevel 3, type '/sbin/telinit 5' (as per Red Hat manual to test
xdm):  grayish screen

Boot to runlevel 3, type 'startx':  Everything OK, just as I left it.

btw:  I have reran Xconfigurator hoping it would correct the links but it did
not.

Thank you for your time,
Sid Thomas


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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing - Count printed Pages?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:10:06 GMT

Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At our work we was using NT Server , now we are switching to Linux, but
> we have problem with founding how to count number of pages printed by
> user.
> Please help us!
> In NT we was using Pcounter software.
> There should be some sollution in Linux.

This is called accounting.  There is a little information on this in
the HOWTO.

The best solution depends on both your printer and your spooling
software; LPRng plus an HP Laserjet run with the ifhp filter appears
to work best out of the box.  Other schemes are possible.

-- 
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
 Linux Printing HOWTO and Website:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/
 I offer consulting in most things Unix/Linux/*BSD/Perl/C/C++

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:21:55 -0400
From: Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: numerical computations under Linux

Grant Edwards wrote:
> 

> 
> I've always thought it rude to use gcc to malign so many useful
> concepts.
> 

Groannnn.

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:43:19 -0700
From: Chem-R-Us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Starting X @ boot?

Sid Thomas wrote:
> 
> Comanche wrote:
> 
> > First you have to check /etc/inittab. Is the initdefault set to 5?
> > If yes, you can check the file  /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.
> > In this file the following sentence must be there:
> > ":0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X" (without the quotes).
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Comanche
> >
> > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:39:15 -0400, Sid Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >   My machine boots to a bash prompt in runlevel 5. It used to boot to
> > > the RedHat login screen. (6.0 that is). As I sort have mentioned, I can
> > > type 'startx' @ the bash prompt and X and Gnome start just as it did
> > > from the login screen.
> 
> checked the symbolic link /usr/X11R6/bin/X and found that it points to a file
> called  XF86_Mach64. This file does not exist on my machine.

This is a problem. /usr/X11R6/bin/X should link to the Xdriver
appropriate for your video card.
 
> I was fortunate enough to see the same file (X) on another machine and it
> pointed to XF86_SVGA. So I changed it on mine.

The XF86_SVGA may work, but also may not be the best choice for your
video card. Each card has an Xdriver that works best for it. You may
need to reinstall the Mach64 driver, or you may need an entirely
different driver.

Collect the information regarding your video card chipset and the
horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.

Go to http://www.xfree86.org and look up your card. You should find
which Xdriver works best with that particular card. Don't use setting
for what looks like a similar card, sometimes they are vastly different
even to the names look similar.

As root, run xf86config, and supply the information you have for your
card and monitor. This should get X going.

While you are doing this, don't make X your default runlevel (5) until
you get the Xdriver worked out. This way you can tweak XF86Config and
restart X with startx.

Once you have the Xdriver worked out, then you can make runlevel 5 your
initial runlevel.

-- 

Chem-R-Us

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:46:37 GMT

On 18 Jul 2000 21:00:34 GMT, Rick Ellis wrote:
>>>Perhaps, but there are plenty of .asp only sources on the net.
>
>>Check http://www.shoutcast.com - you'll find literally hundreds of streaming
>>MP3 servers. Pick and choose according to genre, bandwidth, and bitrate.
>
>How would that solve his desire to listen to a source that is only asp?

He only said that there are plenty of .asp only sources. I offered him
an alternative. Since Microsoft isn't being very forthcoming in offering
either a port of their product or the structs of their format, I'd just
as soon abandon it completely in favour of something more open.

With the number of ShoutCast sites available, I'm sure he'll find something
that suits his needs.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: 18 Jul 2000 22:53:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 18 Jul 2000 21:09:50 GMT, Myke Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have RedHat 6.2 running on a system with more or less no alterations: 
>installed all right from the CD. It runs the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel. Now I am 
>trying to install 2.2.16 for in order to use new driver. I downloaded the 
>RPM directly from RedHat's site, but for some reason it won't find my 
>root fs. The kernel starts to boot fine, and right when it seems to want 
>to mount the root file system I get the message:
>
>request_mod[block_major_8]: fs not found
[snip]
>Any ideas? It seems like a module problem but the proper SCSI module 
>(aic7xxx) seems to be in place.

If your root fs is on a SCSI device, you MUST compile the SCSI host
adapter support, SCSI support, and SCSI disk support directly into the
kernel.  No modules for SCSI here--SCSI modules can't be loaded until
the root fs is mounted, and the the root fs can't be mounted until the
modules are loaded.  There may be a way around this with a RAMdisk, but
putting the SCSI stuff in the kernel is probably the easiest option.

Kernel RPMs will more than likely have this problem with "weird"
configurations; your best bet is to get the official kernel source and
compile it yourself.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
business."  "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
off at the door!"  --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Voice Recording
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:56:09 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> cat /dev/audio > soundfile
>>
>> and then you can convert your soundfile to anything you want.
>>
>> Vilmos
>>

> and the soundfile is a wav file?

No. It's an .au file.
But they can be converted.
(I suggested wavrec in another response though).

-- 
|                          |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
|                          |can't move, with no hope of rescue.             |
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|           in             |good to you so far...                           |
|    Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need Library File
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:53:44 +0100

-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> SuSE used to provide a CD with all the packages as if installed.
> This allowed one to make a minimum installation and then mount
> the CD.  They stopped doing that.  Don't think you'll find the
> individual files.

They didn't stop doing it. They just started supplying it separately from
the main distro.

-- 
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|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
|            in            |  suck is probably the day they start making     |
|     Computer science     |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================

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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO: version 21.5 released
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:12:14 GMT

LILO version 21 by Werner Almesberger has been updated to support booting
from disks > 1024 cylinders using a new 'lba32' option (-L new command line
switch).  Version 21.5 now adds a menu-driven user interface to the Linux
boot process.  Source code is available for download from:

   ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo          (developer's site)

Or from the main distribution site:

   ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo    (please use)


The lilo-21.5 release builds upon the stability of 21.4.4, and adds new
code to support the boot menu.  This release is fully backward compatible
with earlier releases.

See the distribution file 'CHANGES' for details of the differences between
21.4.4 and 21.5.


--John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


LILO version 21.4.4 (20-Jun-2000) source at
ftp: sd.dynhost.com   dir:  /pub/linux/lilo

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From: Dmitri V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wanted: convertor .ps -> .eps
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:21:04 +0000

Martijn Brouwer wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know a good and simple program that can convert postscript
> files to encapsulated postscript?
> 
GIMP. I dunno how simple it is, but it is good, no doubt.

Dmitri

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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome logout problem
Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:41:35 -0700

Mike Edelstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
>   I recently installed redhat 6.2 as an upgrade over 6.0 and now 
> if I log in as someone other than root, use startx to start gnome 
> and then try logout from gnome, the window manager seems to go 
> away but the Xserver wont go away. I have the mouse cursor and 
> the background image and that's it. I have to use the 
> ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the server. I'm wondering if anyone 
> else has seen this or has any suggestions.
> 
> Thankyou,
> Mike Edelstein
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The problem probably lies with the settings in your .gnome directory.
Older (pre 1.2) versions of gnome tend to misbehave when upgraded.  I
suggest moving your .gnome file to .gnome_old and restarting.
Unfortunately, you'll lose your customizations, but it should take
care of the problem.

I agree with the other poster that you should upgrade to 1.2.  It's
much more stable than older versions.

HTH,
Aaron

-- 
Aaron J. Ginn                     Motorola SPS
Phone: (480) 814-4463             SemiCustom Solutions
Fax:   (480) 814-4058             1300 N. Alma School Rd.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]    Chandler, AZ 85226

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Myke Morgan)
Subject: Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: 18 Jul 2000 23:32:04 GMT

Thanks for your reply. Some more questions to enlighten me. The original 
install put lines like the following into my lilo.conf:

        initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0smp.img

Along with the appropriate file in /boot. Is this the ramdisk you 
mention? Unfortunately none came with the new kernel. I did suspect it, 
but there is no 'initrd' mentioned in any lilo man page so I didn't know.

Secondly, how could the kernel begin to boot in the first place if it 
(ie /boot) resides on /dev/sda1? That is what puzzles me the most.

The last question is where is a good kernel source site? I've looked 
many places and they all seem to have just binaries. I will continue the 
search, but if you have a favorite site, let me know.

Thanks,
myke

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 18 Jul 2000 21:09:50 GMT, Myke Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have RedHat 6.2 running on a system with more or less no alterations: 
>>installed all right from the CD. It runs the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel. Now I am 
>>trying to install 2.2.16 for in order to use new driver. I downloaded the 
>>RPM directly from RedHat's site, but for some reason it won't find my 
>>root fs. The kernel starts to boot fine, and right when it seems to want 
>>to mount the root file system I get the message:
>>
>>request_mod[block_major_8]: fs not found
>[snip]
>>Any ideas? It seems like a module problem but the proper SCSI module 
>>(aic7xxx) seems to be in place.
>
>If your root fs is on a SCSI device, you MUST compile the SCSI host
>adapter support, SCSI support, and SCSI disk support directly into the
>kernel.  No modules for SCSI here--SCSI modules can't be loaded until
>the root fs is mounted, and the the root fs can't be mounted until the
>modules are loaded.  There may be a way around this with a RAMdisk, but
>putting the SCSI stuff in the kernel is probably the easiest option.
>
>Kernel RPMs will more than likely have this problem with "weird"
>configurations; your best bet is to get the official kernel source and
>compile it yourself.
>
>-- 
>Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
>business."  "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
>off at the door!"  --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery
>
>


--
I proclaim you, FOUR!


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From: "Michael J. Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux as PDC
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:41:40 -0600


Can anyone explain to me (or send me a smb.conf file) how to setup a Linux
station as a PDC for Windows?  Thanks!

Mike



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: 18 Jul 2000 23:45:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 18 Jul 2000 23:32:04 GMT, Myke Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks for your reply. Some more questions to enlighten me. The original 
>install put lines like the following into my lilo.conf:
>        initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0smp.img
>Along with the appropriate file in /boot. Is this the ramdisk you 
>mention? Unfortunately none came with the new kernel. I did suspect it, 
>but there is no 'initrd' mentioned in any lilo man page so I didn't know.

Yes, this is the ramdisk.  The initrd= option may not be in the man
page, but it's discussed in /usr/doc/packages/lilo/README and in
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html

>Secondly, how could the kernel begin to boot in the first place if it 
>(ie /boot) resides on /dev/sda1? That is what puzzles me the most.

The SCSI BIOS handles loading the kernel image here.  Once the kernel
has uncompressed itself into memory and switched to protected mode (on
x86 systems), it ignores the BIOS.  If the kernel has no SCSI stuff
built in, it will not be able to access a SCSI device since it's not
using the BIOS anymore and it doesn't have native drivers.

>The last question is where is a good kernel source site? I've looked 
>many places and they all seem to have just binaries. I will continue the 
>search, but if you have a favorite site, let me know.

ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
Other than the ones on distro CDs, I have *never* seen a kernel in
binary-only format.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
business."  "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
off at the door!"  --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery



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