Linux-Misc Digest #193, Volume #25               Fri, 21 Jul 00 05:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: how to add gatway to my linux box? (the turtle)
  non-english languages with samba (Stefano Ghirlanda)
  Linux Demo at Davis Food Co-Op (William Kendrick)
  Quake 3 and Tedhat and TNT2... How??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= 
Tixier)
  Re: Defraging against LILO? (Kevin Lacquement)
  Re: Defraging against LILO? (Vilmos Soti)
  NFS Server Recommedation (Bobby Sardana)
  Re: Lilo broken??? ("Ray Lopez")
  Re: hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted ("Hung Lam")
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ("Stephen Ferguson")
  Copying files without changing the timestamp? (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Network Neighborhood for Linux (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: SMP problems with 2.2.x kernels. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: [OT!!] Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ("Bruce Kennewell")
  netscape windows (Ron Nicholls)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: Lilo broken??? (Richard Watson)
  X.400 Client ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: [OT!!] Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Homer Jay)

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From: the turtle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add gatway to my linux box?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:24:54 +1000


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nslookup failed as well:

[root@db /etc]# nslookup
*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.2: Non-existent host/domain
*** Default servers are not available


Dances With Crows wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:30:14 +1000, the turtle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am using Redhad  6.2.
>
> This is a new one on me, but some people using RedHat feel like they've
> been had...
>
> >I found that very confuse about adding a gateway to my linux box.
> >I have my nameserver located in another machine called
> >fastline.bidbid.com with IP addr 192.168.1.2
> >the Redhad machine has the ip addr as 192.168.1.1
> >I have the /etc/resolv.conf written as: nameserver 192.168.1.2
>
> The nameserver has nothing at all to do with the gateway.  A gateway is
> generally a machine that connects a subnet (like the 192.168.0.0
> network) to the outside world (the rest of the Net, that is.)  If you
> don't know what the gateway on your subnet is, ask a knowledgable person
> and/or the network admin.  Once you know the IP address of the gateway,
> all you have to do is:
>    route add default gw X.Y.Z.W
> where X.Y.Z.W is the gateway's IP.  You can put this command in
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local directly, or you can use RedHat's administration
> tool (Linuxconf?) to insert it into the network start scripts.  If your
> IP address is assigned via DHCP, the default gateway should be assigned
> automagically upon boot.
>
> Visit http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ , http://linuxnewbie.com/ , /usr/doc/ ,
> your RedHat 6.2 paper manual, and your local Linux gurus to learn more.
> You will probably need/want to very soon....
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Jesus is the best radio producer in the beans.  We need some saliva and
> pickles to get mad.   --MegaHAL

--
Sam Wun                         Firewalls / Security
OneGuard Senior Software Eng    Electronic Commerce
eSec Limited                    Phone: +61 3 83715376
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]         C++/JAVA/UNIX/OOP/OOD



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nslookup failed as well:
<p>[root@db /etc]# nslookup
<br>*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.2: Non-existent host/domain
<br>*** Default servers are not available
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Dances With Crows wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:30:14 +1000, the turtle 
&lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
<br>>I am using Redhad&nbsp; 6.2.
<p>This is a new one on me, but some people using RedHat feel like they've
<br>been had...
<p>>I found that very confuse about adding a gateway to my linux box.
<br>>I have my nameserver located in another machine called
<br>>fastline.bidbid.com with IP addr 192.168.1.2
<br>>the Redhad machine has the ip addr as 192.168.1.1
<br>>I have the /etc/resolv.conf written as: nameserver 192.168.1.2
<p>The nameserver has nothing at all to do with the gateway.&nbsp; A gateway
is
<br>generally a machine that connects a subnet (like the 192.168.0.0
<br>network) to the outside world (the rest of the Net, that is.)&nbsp;
If you
<br>don't know what the gateway on your subnet is, ask a knowledgable person
<br>and/or the network admin.&nbsp; Once you know the IP address of the
gateway,
<br>all you have to do is:
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; route add default gw X.Y.Z.W
<br>where X.Y.Z.W is the gateway's IP.&nbsp; You can put this command in
<br>/etc/rc.d/rc.local directly, or you can use RedHat's administration
<br>tool (Linuxconf?) to insert it into the network start scripts.&nbsp;
If your
<br>IP address is assigned via DHCP, the default gateway should be assigned
<br>automagically upon boot.
<p>Visit <a href="http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/">http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/</a>
, <a href="http://linuxnewbie.com/">http://linuxnewbie.com/</a> , /usr/doc/
,
<br>your RedHat 6.2 paper manual, and your local Linux gurus to learn more.
<br>You will probably need/want to very soon....
<p>--
<br>Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for
us to see
<br>Jesus is the best radio producer in the beans.&nbsp; We need some saliva
and
<br>pickles to get mad.&nbsp;&nbsp; --MegaHAL</blockquote>

<pre>--&nbsp;
Sam 
Wun&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Firewalls / Security
OneGuard Senior Software Eng&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Electronic Commerce
eSec 
Limited&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Phone: +61 3 83715376
<A 
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 C++/JAVA/UNIX/OOP/OOD</pre>
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.smb
Subject: non-english languages with samba
Date: 20 Jul 2000 16:55:36 +0200

Hi,
I am succesfully running samba (2.0.3) on a linux machine, serving
a few Windows NT machines and a few linux machines (smbmount from
samba 2.0.5a) too. 
Some filenames contain the Swedish letters �, �, � (adieresis,
odieresis, aring). I can't get these to display correctly on *both*
the unix and the windows clients. 

If I use "client code page" and "character set" in smb.conf the
letters display fine on the windows clients, but show up as ? in
linux. If I do not use the two parameters above, it works on linux but
not on linux...

With "in linux" I mean that I checked ls under bash and dired in
emacs. The bash setting is:

export LC_ALL=sv_SE
set meta-flag on
set input-meta on
set convert-meta off
set output-meta on

but unsetting all these things does not help...

I would like to know if these problems can be solved in samba 2.0.3 or
in any other version.

thanks a lot,
Stefano


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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Demo at Davis Food Co-Op
Crossposted-To: 
ucd.life,sac.announce,ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.ece.ieee,ucd.general
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 05:48:00 GMT


The Linux Users' Group of Davis will be demonstrating the Linux
operating system at the Davis Food Co-Op on Saturday, July 22nd
from 10am until 2pm.

The Co-Op is located on G Street in Davis, just south of 8th Street.

For more information on LUGOD, visit:

  http://www.lugod.org/

-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quake 3 and Tedhat and TNT2... How???
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 05:39:40 GMT

Hi...

I am trying to setup Quake 3 to work with my Redhat 6.2 installation.
No luck whatsoever... I downloaded the drivers from NVidia for the
card, but they have a dependency requirement of XFree 4.0. As you
probably know, Redhat doesn't install with XFree 4.0, and I am not sure
I want to try to install and compile it myself at this point...

Has anybody at all out there been able to get Quake 3 (or Unreal
Tournament) to work with Redhat 6.1 or 6.2, and has a TNT2 card?

Please let me know what steps you took. Thanks. I would like to do away
with my worthless install of Winblows as soon as possible, but right
now, it is the only way I have to play Quake.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Tixier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:58:46 +0200

Well, i have a MS FF Wheel, i don't think there will be Linux driver :o(

Uncle Fester wrote:

> S�bastien Tixier wrote:
> >
> > Well, i see great future on a server-only linux GPL version, but as long
> > as there will not Force Feedback under Linux i'll never play a
> > linux-GPL.
>
> Logitech has already released Linux drivers for it's LWFF wheel.  And
> the 2.4 kernel will have USB support, so I hear.  Now we just need a
> port of GPL.  Life is *good*...
>
> --
> Chuck Kandler
>
> A man is no less a Slave just because he is
> allowed to choose a new Master every four years.
>
> Registered Linux User #180746
> http://counter.li.org

--
Sebastien Tixier
Susuki 650 SVS - Half Driving Licence
(MagicFr) GPLRank handicap -24.43
Game Developper
personal : http://magicfr.multimania.com
company  : http://www.eden-studios.fr



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From: Kevin Lacquement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 06:07:49 GMT

Scott Rose wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem.  I'm running a dual Win98/Redhat 6.2 system.  When
> I run Defrag under Windows, it seems to corrupt the Linux partitions.  My
> Linux boot disk did not help, as the ext2 file sytsem was corrupted and fsck
> could not fix it.  I had to reinstall Linux, and not use defrag.
> 

I had that problem, when Windows decided to over-run its partition.  A
run of Disk Doctor (unfortunately, too late) told me that hda1 & hda2
were overlapping.  Unfortunately, Linux was already gone by then :(

Cheers,
Kevin

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 06:49:35 GMT

Kevin Lacquement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I had that problem, when Windows decided to over-run its partition.  A
> run of Disk Doctor (unfortunately, too late) told me that hda1 & hda2
> were overlapping.  Unfortunately, Linux was already gone by then :(

Check out man fdisk and look for the MSDOS 6.x stuff. Maybe that
helps a bit.

Vilmos

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From: Bobby Sardana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS Server Recommedation
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:08:26 -0700

Greetings:

I am seeking information about the following:

a. Recommendations for linux hardware (assembled or configuration) to
perform reliable, scalable network server that can serve up to 50
windows/nt clients and 50 UNIX clients.

b. The storage capacity of the network server can be anywhere from 500
GB to 1 TB.

c. The connectivity to the switch should be via gigabit link. Any
recommendation about the NICs for gigabit?

d. Filesystem configuration or recommendations. What happens if the
machine goes down? Will the system perform a 'fsck' check on the 500 GB
filesystem? That might take substantial time and delay the functionality

of the server. How is this problem solved by folks who actually
implement a linux based NFS server?

e. Also, how will the above scale (performance & reliability) to much
expensive models like Sun Enterprise 3500 or the NetAppliance 700
series?

f. Any RAID recommedations?

g. Any backup software recommendations?

Any information on the above is appreciated.

Thanks & Regards,

Bobby Sardana.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Ray Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Lilo broken???
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:07:35 GMT

SO what's your point moron?  You don't offer a solution, just philosophical
whimsy.

WHen I dual booted Linux (virus ware) onto NT4, I used an excellent TP
utility called "Boot magic" that came with "Partition Magic".  It took care
of the details, and I was able to dual boot.

This whole thread underscores how software is dependent on hardware (and
vice versa).  The big lie that Linux is "platform independent" is just that.
Try running Linux on a Mac as easily as on Unix hardware.  Linux is made for
Unix machines (mainframes), or, rather, it was ported to a PC with a
mainframe in mind (not an ideal solution).

Just my two cents.

Stick with Win2k on a genuine Intel processor if you really want to rock.

RL

Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
> With all of the different ways possible to boot into linux, I usually
> don't understand the preocupation with lilo and 1024 limit.
>
> While the best solution is probably to have, prior to linux-install,
> created a small partition for the boot files, this is not always
> possible to accomplish post-install.
>
> And if people only have ONE way to boot into linux, that's a bit dicey.

> BLAH BLAH BLAH...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Hung Lam")
Subject: Re: hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted
Date: 21 Jul 2000 09:30:00 +0200

Go to this webpage 
http://oreilly.linux.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html




--
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via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

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From: "Stephen Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:34:43 +0200


"William Burrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:58:20 -0600,
> Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day
become
> >>the pre-eminent operating system.
> >>They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
> >
> >I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
> >with both hands!
>
> With Pentium crushing dual G4 machines like Apple will soon be releasing
> (in August, I believe), there may well be a few Linux people become Mac
> owners.  Running Linux on PPC, of course.
>
> http://www.apple.com
>
>

And although I place it second to performance, the aesthetics of the newest
G4 "Cube" are a real selling point.  It is simply cool.

Stephen




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Copying files without changing the timestamp?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:39:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How can you copy stuff from one folder to another without changing the
timestamp?
I need this for two reasons:
1) I want to backup and restore directories by hand ( specifically I
want to copy over the some directories by hand, reinstall linux from
scratch, then recopy those files, some of which are scm files so
timestamp is important ).
2) I want to compile a large library on one computer ( which has a
large hd), then copy stuff over to other computers which  don't have
as much storage ( after i remove intermediate files and unneeded files
). Part of this involves not mucking up the timestamp.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Network Neighborhood for Linux
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:43:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is there something like network neighborhood for linux that will allow
me to access a remote ( samba ) partition without actually mounting
it?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Re: SMP problems with 2.2.x kernels.
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:45:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:55:03 -0700, in comp.os.linux.misc you wrote:

>"Jason A. Smith" wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone been able to run a stable 2.2.x kernel with SMP and get it to
>> actually be stable?  I can't get one to last more than a few hours before
>> it crashes or my memory gets corrupted and I am forced to reboot because
>> random processes are crashing, usually the X-server.  Early 2.2.x kernels
>> were more stable for me, but I now have a large disk and can't use the
>> early versions.  Anyone have any suggestions about how I can get a stable
>> SMP kernel?
>> 
>> ~Jason
>
>Are you OCing?
>
>Don't.  And you need at least a true 300Watts power supply for SMP. More
>if you
>have lots of stuff. I'm running a 400Watts PS.
>
>I got the Asus SCSI SMP running with  SuSE 2.2.14 SMP for months now.
>(also with freiserfs(?spelling?) (LILO needs ext2fs) and LVM spanning
>over 4 HDDS. Stable as a rock.
>
>-Alex / blowfish.
Supermicro, dual pII 350 ( different steppings too!) Mandrake 7.0.
Three months 24/7 no crash.

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From: "Bruce Kennewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: [OT!!] Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:15:36 +1000

(Sigh)
Okay....
"They are like religious zealots: very, very devoted to their cause".

That better?
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
===========================

Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:44:50 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:40:52 +1000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
> >> >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
>
> >Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> I'm nothing like a Mac owner. Those kooks couldn't find their arse
> >> with both hands!
> >
> >Read the analogy again.
>
> Socrates (SOH-crates) said that an analogy is valid only if the two things
> being compared are similar (and also, "Party on Bill and Ted!") Ok, Mac
> owners are devoted, yes, but to what? A silly money making scheme. Wheee!
> I'm using a computer that looks like a *toaster*! It's sooo kewl that
> I didn't mind paying more. Now I'm gonna jam on down to the Kwikee Mart
> in my new VW Bug and buy some Frutopia! (But, hey, the desktop publishing
> thing is pretty good, I'll admit.) Yet, I feel... strangely... *obliged*
> to restate my epithet that Mac owners are kooky. :) Ok, I'll pipe down
> now, after...
> --kook n. (US slang) crazy or eccentric person (see also: MacExpo
attendee)
> "Me lose brain? Hah hah hah. Why I laugh?" --Homer Jay



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From: Ron Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape windows
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:30:10 -1000

Why is it possible to resize Messager and Composer
windows with the corner drag, but not Navigator

-- 
-
-
Regards 
message_ends.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:23:27 GMT

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:53:00 GMT, Gordon McLachlan wrote:

> Linux is not an acceptable desktop operating system. It is useful as
> a web server OS, but other than that it is an oddity, much like those
> who hype it excessively.

<flame>

#v+
                      _                 _
                     |_|               |_|
                     | |    |||||||    | |
                    _| |_  (| 'o' |)  _| |_
                 _ | | | |_ (_ - _) _| | | | _
                | '| | | | |__| |__| | | | |' |
                |          |       |          |
                 \        / /(. .)\ \        /
                  \      / / |   | \ \      /
                   \    / /  |_._|  \ \    /
                    \___.'   || ||   '.___/
                             || ||
                             || ||
                            ooO Ooo
#v-

</flame>

SCNR,
Thomas :-)
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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Lilo broken???
Date: 21 Jul 2000 09:33:33 +0100

"Ray Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> Stick with Win2k on a genuine Intel processor if you really want to rock.

Sorry I'm just playing spot the troll this early in the morning.

Do I win a prize?

-- 
Richard Watson          email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Pentagon Web Design Ltd     Fax: +44(0)870 706 5282
Reading UK                   Reg. Linux User 183315 
                                      ICQ: 65274884
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux
Subject: X.400 Client
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:27:46 GMT

Hi,

I need an X.400 Client for my Linux Box. Isearched Freshmeat
and Tucows but didn't find anything. Anyone if an X.400
Client exists?

                                           Ciao, Timo


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: [OT!!] Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 03:08:58 -0600

Yeah, but religious zealots are kooks.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:15:36 +1000, Bruce Kennewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>(Sigh)
>Okay....
>"They are like religious zealots: very, very devoted to their cause".
>That better?
>-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia.
>
>> Socrates (SOH-crates) said that an analogy is valid only if the two things
>> being compared are similar (and also, "Party on Bill and Ted!") Ok, Mac
>> owners are devoted, yes, but to what? A silly money making scheme. Wheee!
>> I'm using a computer that looks like a *toaster*! It's sooo kewl that
>> I didn't mind paying more. Now I'm gonna jam on down to the Kwikee Mart
>> in my new VW Bug and buy some Frutopia! (But, hey, the desktop publishing
>> thing is pretty good, I'll admit.) Yet, I feel... strangely... *obliged*
>> to restate my epithet that Mac owners are kooky. :) Ok, I'll pipe down
>> now, after...
>> --kook n. (US slang) crazy or eccentric person (see also: MacExpo
>attendee)
>> "Me lose brain? Hah hah hah. Why I laugh?" --Homer Jay

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