Linux-Misc Digest #291, Volume #25               Mon, 31 Jul 00 03:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: I/O question (Guy White)
  Re: non-English letters in xterm (Phil Gilmer)
  Re: Settine passwords from a script ("Sapan Goel")
  Linux + Ten-Tec Rx-320? (Larry Ozarow)
  Dynamic Languages on Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Netatalk and Red Hat 6.2 (FyreFiend)
  Re: RedHat 6.2 to Windows 98 ("David ..")
  Re: what to demo during a linux talk ("Philo")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? (Alan Coopersmith)
  Re: e2fsck problem (Marco Baiocco)
  Re: Dynamic Languages on Linux? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: Inittab and Cron (William R. Mattil)
  Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. (William R. Mattil)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Prasanth A. Kumar)

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From: Guy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I/O question
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:19:52 GMT

Steve Riskus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Its a ensoniq sounscape vivo wav table card or something like that.. I am
> using Caldera...

Use _lspci_ if you have it installed, it's part of a pcitools package. 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Gilmer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Date: 31 Jul 2000 05:30:16 GMT

English is NOT derived from Latin!

English is a Germanic language belonging to the same broad groups as 
German (and its hundreds of dialects) and Dutch,  as well as the 
Scadinavian languages--Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, and Icelandic. 

French, Italian, Spanish (and others) are "Romance" languages (i.e. 
language of the Romans) which are all direct descendents of Latin. 

At one time Old English and Old Saxon were in fact the same language, 
the difference being one of geography--that is, did you live in 
England or on the continent? But as languages do in isolation, the two
drifted slowly apart. Old High German went its own way from the 
proto-Germanic around the time of Charlemagne, began changing to what 
we now call Middle High German about the 12-13th Century. Modern 
German pretty well starts in the early 16th Century with Martin 
Luther.

Most of the "Latin" influences in English are of Norman French origin 
beginning in 1066 with the French invasion of England. English became 
the peasant language--French was spoken by the nobility and was the 
language at the "English" court.

Much of the long, multisyllabic Latin words that English teachers drag
out and dust off to "prove" English's "Latin" origins are in fact 
neologisms dating from the 18th Century Age of Enlightenment.

So much for the pedantic in me. It is interesting to note that King 
George I (grandfather of the more renowned George III) of England did 
not speak English--he was German.

Phil Gilmer
M.A. Germanic Linguistics


On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:14:27, sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Um...
> 
> I hate to mention it...
> 
> But English is derived from Latin as well...
> 
> Thought I'd point that out.
> 
> -SSB
> 
> Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas LS) writes:
> >
> > > Le 24 Jul 2000 16:53:52 +0200, Stefano Ghirlanda a ecrit :
> > > >> Peut etre faut-il refaire la map du clavier ?
> > > >Non credo, visto che molte applicazioni funzionano, tipo lyx ed emacs
> > >
> > > Sorry for the french ... but you understood ...
> >
> > Speakers of latin-derived languages should learn to understand other
> > latin-derived languages at school! It's stupid that french, spanish
> > and italian people talk to each other in English!
> >
> > Perhaps someone sitting in the European parliament reads these
> > newsgroups?
> >
> > Stefano
> 

Phil Gilmer


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From: "Sapan Goel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Settine passwords from a script
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:29:37 +0530

Use expect to set the password. The typical expect script will look like
this

#!/usr/local/bin/expect
set username [lindex $argv 0]
set password [lindex $argv 1]
spawn passwd $username
expect "New password:"
send $password\n
expect "Re-enter new password:"
send $password\n
interact
exit 0


Call the above script with two arguements: username and the desired
password. For this u need to have expect installed on the system.

Sapan





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From: Larry Ozarow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux + Ten-Tec Rx-320?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:32:58 GMT

Citizens,

Anyone know of any Linux software for the Ten-Tec Rx-320
radio other than the Dxtra product?

Larry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dynamic Languages on Linux?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:33:08 GMT

The future of languages.

As you all know, the history of languages started with instruction
codes for a machine.  These were very basic operations like the
following...

Load 001 R1  <- put 1 in storage 1(register 1)
Load 002 R2  <- put 2 in storage 2 (register 2)
Add R1 R2    <- add storage 2 to storage 1 and put results in storage 1


Of course, this is assembly.  Which is translated to
machine language..

005 001 001
005 002 002
006 001 002

(assuming 005 = Load, 006 = Add).

Since machine language are just bytes, you can convert them to
binary...

00000101 00000001 00000001
00000101 00000010 00000010
00000110 00000001 00000010

These are fed to the processor of the CPU (Central Processing Unit)
which understand instruction of Load, Add, etc.  and follows
what the instructions tell it to do.  Those individual bits trigger
events in the transistors.  So you are actually talking to transistors
if you think low enough.


Well.  If you notice the above language follows a particular syntax,
namely Operator Operand Operand.  A B B
If you construct a grammar tree for this... it looks like so...

Program=>Statements
Statements=>Statement Statements
Statement=>Operator Operand Operand
Operator=>Load | Add | Sub | Jump | etc
Operand=>R1 | R2 | A1 | etc

Of course, you can create the language of Basic using a different
grammar set.  C has its own, every language has one.

But have you noticed something?  All the languages in the world
has a fixed grammar.  The only one that comes close to being dynamic is
Lisp.  But even in lisp you must follow the recursive syntax, and you
are bound to it for creating new functions.

Well, I happen to have created a new language with a dynamic
grammar tree.  You can prune add grammar anywhere in it.
The most scrary and interesting thing about it is that it
has the potential to be alive "living".  All it needs is a source for
replacing any piece in the LHS (left side of the grammar tree), and a
source for food (something to parse its grammar on, in
computer language it is called the program).  It can obtain both either
manually (you feed it), or it can grab it from a source
(like the internet webpages)

It can live on the internet following webpages.  It can understand html
format (and its links).  And it can understand text.  So
for example, it follows a link to a regular text (which has sentences
with periods, etc), and it will eventually hit upon a http link
and it can go there if it wants.  It has rudimentary english
grammar capability etc.

But back to the dynamic nature of its grammar tree.  Because it is
dynamic, it can be pruned and spliced internally, new grammar trees can
be created.  It can understand C, C++, pascal, etc if you feed it that
grammar.

The only things that come up is endless recursion.  A bonus is
that when it has a choice of following two paths, it can use
random path.  If it gets it nowwhere (not settling down to a matching
tree node) in a certain iteration, that prune of the tree is considered
bad (a bad mutation), so it is removed (it dies).  It can keep track of
good paths for keeps.  Eventually based on percentages, the random
paths narrow down to useful grammars.

Actions.  Well what can it do?  It can interpret languages and
execute if it has a way to hook into the CPU and tell it to
do stuff.  From there it needs a starting point.  You can feed
it a program for it to interpret (like a perl language or a
C program, or a html link), and off it goes following its
intstructions. now and then it encounters a part it doesn't understand
from
its food.  From then it has a choice of either incorporating the new
tree token or discard it.  (you can set the mutation rate).
Note that it can be set to retain a lot.

This thing can crawl to your machine and live there if it has
hooks to your machine.  For example... this is a path it would
take if it wants to reproduce children...

On my windows machine it is running on an Intel cpu (it understands
this language).  To migrate to another machine, it would need
access to your machine's CPU.  Most computers talk http and tcp/ip.
Well, if the food is html pages, it has instant access to all the
computers on the internet that has a webservers and from there
it can find ftp servers (using ftp:// tokens).  From its base machine
it can ftp itself to public ftp servers as pure executables of
itself for intel cpus.  From there it has a chance to live again if
someone downloads it and runs it.

it just happens that it understand ftp commands

start=>statements
statements=>statement statements
statement=>operator file
operator=>put | get | etc
file=>[a-z.]*

There is the grammar for execution...

response=>error | ok | etc
error=>"cannot find"
ok=>"file transferred.."
etc.

a new grammar is simply an extention of things it found but
has no node to parse from in its internal grammar tree.
Because it is a living grammar, it can utilize useful languages it
parsed and incorporate that into its own grammar tree.

a=b | newgrammar
newgrammar=>(obtained from parsing food)

eventually if this part of the tree is successful elsewhere it is
retained (based on percentage, etc)

If it cannot have children, then it can just live on one machine and
basically grow and mutate itself.  It can understand everthing
eventually.  Even wave files (sound files) have a strict structure with
a header, begin wave sound and end file.  html has <html> for beginning
and </html> for ending.  C executables have Data Segment, Address
Segment, where to load it into memory, etc. C source
have main(argc, argcv) etc.  So it can be in a growing mode, or
execution mode.  It can execute code (any language, if you feed it the
grammar, or it finds out on its own) or run native cpu code, or it can
just grow, understand the grammar for some new food it got and create
grammar trees from it to extend itself.

Here is an interesting website: http://www.edepot.com
There is a non-living version of the grammar there
(It was useful as a glossary, so I made it live on disucssion
forum board pages, but it is non-living, so you must manually
give it new grammar by inputing into the input box.).
You can try it out on the discussion forums.  A more
direct link is http://www.edepot.com/phl.html
Check out the eGlossary and add a grammar
(and then visit a discussion forum
and create a message the eGlossary can or understand)
(you may need to manually put a grammar in)

The living mode still working on.  (I'm using it
as a backend as a dynamic webpage language).



Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: FyreFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netatalk and Red Hat 6.2
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:20:50 -0400

Hi Steve,
I have the same problem until I loaded the appletalk modual
(spelling?). Now it works great.

Good Luck!
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:32:54 GMT, Stephen Gilbert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Has anyone gotten Netatalk to work with Red Hat 6.2?  It's not part of
>the distrib, and I have been unable to get any version of the source
>code to compile under 6.2.  I found a binary tarball at
>contribs.redhat.com, but it gives errors trying to start up atalkd.  It
>says...
>
>socket: Invalid argument
>socket: Invalid argument
>atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting.
>
>Any ideas anyone?
>
>- Steve


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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 to Windows 98
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:57:09 -0500

Steven Hardin wrote:
> 
> I have RedHat Linux 6.2 on my comp. and I want to go back to Windows 98,
> but I am having some trouble figuring it out.  If anyone knows how to do
> this help me out please.  Thanks in advance.

Boot into linux.
login as root.
enter:  /sbin/lilo -u
enter:  fdisk /dev/hda  or sda depending on your hard drive.
Delete all linux partitions
quit and save changes.
reboot with a DOS/windoz boot disk.
enter:  fdisk /MBR
format drive back to DOS/windoz format.
Install windoz

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what to demo during a linux talk
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:56:43 -0500


here is my suggestion.
first show them the GUI:
they'll think...ok big deal, it looks like windows...
then run some application you are familiar with and say:
well that was good but i wish it did this....
then go to the source code, make the changes, recompile and run the modified
application.
practice first and keep it *simp-le*

it could be quite impressive if you do it flawlessly and with authority...

(at least i know i was sure impressed the first time i compiled something
and it worked!)
Philo



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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:27:11 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Alex writes:
> > Why I bash Slashdot?
> 
> Because you get some sort of twisted pleasure out of it, I presume.  You
> certainly aren't enlightening anyone by doing so.
> 
No. In a way, I'm just ranting. And I don't troll. I'm a fly-fisherman,
mainly fishing for steelheads and rainbow trouts in rapid waters, so,
got to be pretty precise with fly casting. Trolling is boring, and you
can't troll with fly rod. ;-)

And I don't think I've the power, or charisma to enlighten anybody. But
I do see things from both sides. I'm both a T-shirt, Swatch watch and
jeans guy as well as all suited up in Armani, Cartier and Gucci. :P

But I think there're really a lot of blind faith followers/groupies of
Slashdot.
And one of the tactics that they use is to gang up on any web sites that
oppose their 
gospel, and have a bunch of groupies to access that web site at once,
they call it "the Slashdot Effect.", but in fact they're trying to
create a DoS. What a bunch of childish loonies losers!

> > Because Slashdot is advocating a lot of unethical stuff by twisting the
> > real definition of Freedom of Speech; and its point men Jon Katz and Del
> > Taco are super hypocrites in my book.
> 
> I wouldn't know: I don't read Slashdot.  I find reading anything on the Web
> awkward and inconvenient and use it only when I need to.  I don't need
> Slashdot, and I need your attacks on it even less.
> 
Well. Sometimes, you can find some useful info out from it, after you
wadded through all the rubbish.

> > And the GNU-GPL is what exactly what keeps a lot of big corp away from
> > using Linux.
> 
> I doubt that, but if true, so what?  Why should I condition my choice of
> license on the preferences of a pack of "Chief Information Officers" who
> think sticking some VB in a Word doc is programming?
> 
No. I don't care about VB or any programming language. As long as it can
get the job done in an efficient way. (no. I don't do visual
anything...)

In fact, my coding is very terrifying indeed. My Frankenstein style of
coding will even scare Jason from Friday the 13th away... :-)

In fact. I enjoy more reading something like Camelot, The War of the
Roses, Olson Wells, Mark Twins, Tennessee Williams; or going to a good
jazz concert, a modern dance, a ballet performance,  or looking at
Salvador Deli's paintings, or photographs by Richard Avadon, W. Eugene
Smith in art galleries, and so on, more than reading any tech stuff, or
go to tech trade shows. 

No. The choice of licensing might not be of any importance to some, but
to those who wants to make a living out of it, then, it's very
important, muy importante to them, and if you look at anything that are
GNU-GPLed, you'll see the line "... not accountable for any
damage...blah , blah, blah..."

That may be fine with some private end users, but in the real business
world, accountability is everything. They'll pass even if you have the
best stuff out, if nobody can be taken account for, if something goes
wrong.
 
> > I want Linux and *BSD to success. But in the money circle.
> 
> Linux is a succes, but I see no reason why it has to be "in the money
> circle".
> 
Yes, Linux *IS* a success, but mainly in the academia and geeks circle.

I admire the volunteer's effort of the Linux and BSD communities; but
sooner or later, those developers will realize that they cannot do it
for free forever.

Go ask Alan Cox and see if he'll keep on coding the kernel if he won't
get a decent pay cheque anymore. 

All the big names in the GNU-GPL circle are all working for big
corporations. 

After all. It's money that makes the world goes round. ;-)

Yeah. Money is not everything.  But money is not anyone of us mortal
soul can live without.

> > Why would they want to give RHat a fat support contract when they can
> > have plenty of supports, who understand the local culture, language and
> > business need for less!!!???
> 
> Beats me.  Perhaps someday everyone will get OS's on $2.00 Cheap Bytes CD's
> and purchase support locally.  I would like that just fine.  Why should I
> object if the coming changes in the software economy fail to create any new
> billionaires?
> 
As far as I can see. All the distros, including the die-hard Debian. Are
out exploiting the GNU-GPL. They're making the profits by repackaging
the free stuff put out by volunteers, who have put out their work under
GNU-GPL.

I don't think that's fair to the developers. And the way the GNU-GPL is
written that, you either have to give up everything to your claims, or
don't play the Linux game at all. But never mind if somebody repackage
your work and make a hugh profit out from your free work, where you no
longer has any rights to.

> > RHat's ventures into the Asia market is highly risky.  If not downright
> > hopeless.
> 
> Whatever.  I own no Red Hat stock, so I see no need to follow the company.

I don't either. But I'm just interested in this opensource movement.

Alex / blowfish.

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

-- 
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).

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From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 06:31:13 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes in alt.solaris.x86:
|Uh, there is none. ATT owns the trademark for Unix, so I suppose you had
|better get their unix. (Not that I would advise it.) 

AT&T sold the trademark, with the rest of Unix Systems Labs, to Novell
in the early 90's.  Novell gave the trademark to X/Open (now part of
the Open Group) for use in defining UNIX standards, and then sold the
rest to SCO.

Officially, any OS that gets certified as meeting the standards set
forth by the Open Group can be called "UNIX(TM)" - currently that list
includes Solaris, AIX, Tru64 (aka Digital UNIX), IRIX, UnixWare, HP-UX,
and even IBM OS/390.

For full details see http://www.unix-systems.org/ 

-- 
________________________________________________________________________
Alan Coopersmith                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://soar.Berkeley.EDU/~alanc/           aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Working for, but definitely not speaking for, Sun Microsystems, Inc.

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From: Marco Baiocco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: e2fsck problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:37:49 +0200

On 27 Jul 2000 21:59:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:09:32 +0200, Marco Baiocco wrote:
>> It has always run fine till now, and it still does, but
>>today I have noticed a small warning during the boot messages.
>>It says something like the checking time has arrived, and that it
>>should be wise to run e2fsck on the linux partitions. It has nothing
>>to do with the maximal mount count, though, because it was written
>>before, during and after the "forced check" due to the mount count.
>>But then the warning still popped out. What should I do to convince
>>linux I'm a good guy and I regularly check my filesystems, and that I
>>just checked them?
>
>This is a bit odd, since an fsck should set the "time since last check"
>field appropriately.  Anyway, you can disable the message by entering
>"tune2fs -i 0 /dev/hdXY" when that particular partition is mounted
>read-only.  Have a look at the man page for tune2fs as well....
Ok, finally I got it to work properly. I'm posting the solution 'cause I
thought it might be interesting for you to know. It turned out that I have
to different version of RH 6.2, shipped with two different magazines. I
installed one at first, but then when I wanted to use disk druid to
repartition the hard disk (I prefer the Win program Pmagic, but the vfat
partition was damaged) I put the other RH 6.2 version in. Yeah, same
version, but different packet in! The "original" kernel was 2.2.14-5.0,
while the other was 2.2.14-12; since it went through the "update" of
packets it installed this new kernel and also some other packet, which I
believe were different in version too. I saw also the fsck packet being
installed. At the reboot, everything went well, working as it should.
Except for this... what? I wouldn't say it's a bug... A feature? :) It's an
incompatibility between two program, perhaps... Well, re-updating with the
other linux cd I have solved the problem: now it's all back to normality.
Anyway, thank you very much for the time you dedicated to me.

Bye
Marco
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
/\\arco

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Subject: Re: Dynamic Languages on Linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:39:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<snip various thoughts about programming languages> 
> Here is an interesting website: http://www.edepot.com
> There is a non-living version of the grammar there
> (It was useful as a glossary, so I made it live on disucssion
> forum board pages, but it is non-living, so you must manually
> give it new grammar by inputing into the input box.).
> You can try it out on the discussion forums.  A more
> direct link is http://www.edepot.com/phl.html
> Check out the eGlossary and add a grammar
> (and then visit a discussion forum
> and create a message the eGlossary can or understand)
> (you may need to manually put a grammar in)
> 
> The living mode still working on.  (I'm using it
> as a backend as a dynamic webpage language).
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Goto everything.slashdot.org which expands on what you are doing with
eGlossary.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: Inittab and Cron
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:21:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>The question was how NOT to get mail notification about 1 particular
>cron script.  For that he would end the crontab line more like:
>
>59 * * * * /path/some_program > /dev/null 2>&1
>


David,

You are absolutely correct ..... I obviously need new glasses or
assumed something other than that which was desired. Doh !


Bill

-- 
William R. Mattil       | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106          | and... in high heels.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:13:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Prasanth A. Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Greetings,
>> 
>>     I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
>> all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
>> recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
>> but this one is just too much:
>> 
>> [anm@hawk ~] file /etc/passwd
>> /etc/passwd: ASCII test
>> 
><snip>
>
>What should it say instead? Anyway, what makes this a bug? Is it noted
>in a standard somewhere that it should be something else or is it just
>different from what you had in Slackware?

FYI Three different unicies AIX, Slowaris, and RH all agree.

file /etc/passwd
/etc/passwd: ASCII text

But on a postive note .... you have access to the sources. Fix it.
Recompile and voila! No more problem.

Bill
-- 
William R. Mattil       | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106          | and... in high heels.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:06:36 GMT

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

<snip>
> As far as I can see. All the distros, including the die-hard Debian. Are
> out exploiting the GNU-GPL. They're making the profits by repackaging
> the free stuff put out by volunteers, who have put out their work under
> GNU-GPL.
> 
> I don't think that's fair to the developers. And the way the GNU-GPL is
> written that, you either have to give up everything to your claims, or
> don't play the Linux game at all. But never mind if somebody repackage
> your work and make a hugh profit out from your free work, where you no
> longer has any rights to.
<snip>

I think most developers GPL their software because they want to rather
than because they are forced to. The only time they are compelled to
is if they lift code from another GPL'd program or use a GPL'd
library.  All the other times, the developer choose to make it GPL,
they were quite aware that others will profit from it.

Sure, the GPL restricts the conditions in which you can use the source
code but then again, when is the last time Microsoft let you take
chunks of their source code with no strings attached?

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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