Linux-Misc Digest #322, Volume #25 Wed, 2 Aug 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Oh no! (blowfish)
Running a Cisco 605 DSL card in Linux ("mike parks")
Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller? (Dances With Crows)
the qutation mark "" (alikbm)
Authentication Problem (Klaus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nenberg?=)
Re: fetchmail: domain name must exist?! (Klaus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nenberg?=)
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: the qutation mark "" ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Ciaran)
Re: Slackware 7 locking up in X (Byron A Jeff)
Re: How to insert degree symbol in Linux? (Mary P)
Re: DNS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to install new hardware in Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible? (Henry Garcia)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Oh no!
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:18:51 -0700
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>
> Johnny Kitchens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [ My sentiments......exactly
> [ "blowfish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [ news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [ > And Red Hat is famous for buggie, crappy, unfinished products. And try
> [ > to hide behind the disguise of being on the "bleeding edge" when it
> [ > broke.
> [ >
> [ > If you choose Red Hat, you might as well stay with Windoz. Even Win 9.x
> [ > is better than Red Hat, according to bugtraq.
>
> WOuld the continued use if Mandrake or RH be harmful to the casual Linux
> user though? Would this 'dll-hell' sort of problem affect only program
> or software developers? I've managed to d/load & install RPMs from
> rufus.w3.org, though I have to admit it's mostly binaries
> All my attempts to compile always say
> 'c compiler can't create executables'
> and that's only during the ./configure portion! Am I a hapless victim
> already?Okay.
A good way to tinkering around is try to install as many apps as you
have time to. You CANNOT really breaks anything in doing so, unlike
Windoz (where EVERYBODY have root permission), because you will need su,
or root permission to write anything to /etc, /bin/ /sbin and so on - in
places that important, must have files are located.
Just play around as a regular user, you'll know if your attempt is
successful or not when you do the 'make' command. Usually, it won't
really install anything until after 'make', and you have issued the
'make install' command. And you're very likely to see "can't write to...
permissions denied." (that means, you need su or root permission.
And anything that you can install as a regular user usually are
installed under that user's home directory. And you can easily fix those
problem.
Just READ the README and changelog files a few times, make sure you
understand what it tells you, and you should have no problem.
The stuff you compiled from source yourself on you own machine might not
even run on my machine. But will makes you HAPPY HAPPY on your machine!
> --
> jazz
> Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
--
- Alex / blowfish.
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
KISS rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee). Small. Simple and fast.
:-)
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song)Fingerprint -v.i007bond: Doe1(-a deer a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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From: "mike parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running a Cisco 605 DSL card in Linux
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:26:31 -0500
Does anyone know of a HOWTO or have any information on how to configure a
Cisco 605 PCI DSL card in rfc1483 bridging or in PPP mode on a Linux box?
Mike Parks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller?
Date: 2 Aug 2000 22:36:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:46:29 GMT, Rob Knop wrote:
>Does anybody have a favorite POV-Ray modeller?
N+1 scraps of paper with scrawls all over them combined with vim, a
decent spatial-visualization brain, and multiple test renders at -Q0 :-)
>What I'm looking for is a graphical modeller, that lets me stretch,
>bend, rotate, scale, lathe, surface, etc. All the basic operations of a
>standard modeller. It must be able to write out POV-Ray objects, using
>at least triangles and spline-triangles (the exact POV-Ray term escapes
>me at the moment). Other POV-Ray primitives (spheres, cylindars,
>planes, quadratics, etc.) are less crucial, but would be nice. The
>ideal modeller would have a 3d view which you could rotate to any angle,
>a user interface that isn't *too* clunky in which it was relatively easy
>to select and group triangles and primitives, and (if I can really
>dream) is possible to extend using one's own C/C++/Perl/whatever
>routines. I'm looking for free modellers.
I did a bit of hunting around, starting at
http://povray.org/links/3D_Programs/POV-Ray_Modelling_Programs/ .
Not much seems to fit your criteria, except possibly for Pygmalion,
http://Pygmalion3D.sourceforge.net/ . It currently has Win9x and Linux
versions, and says it's GPLed. Never used it myself; didn't know about
it until 5 minutes ago. I tried out "sced", a free modeler for Unix
that might be decent except for its almost complete lack of
documentation, and got so irritated with the interface I went back to
the "solution" described above.
Have you tried asking this question in
news:comp.graphics.rendering.raytracing? There's got to be a subset of
folks there who use Linux and POVRay....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: alikbm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: the qutation mark ""
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 01:40:00 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi i am using mandrake 7.1 and from some reason i can't get gcc or g++
to compile the simplest command : printf("hello world");
the error is : parse error before character 0250
what is it and how do i cope with it?
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From: Klaus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nenberg?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Authentication Problem
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:51:39 +0200
Hi,
When I connect from a Client (Win9x or Unix) to my Linux-Server,
I�m asked for Username/Password, Linux lets me in but the username
is still "nobody".
All Processes are running:
108 ? S 0:00 /sbin/portmap
161 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
164 ? S 21:26 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd
169 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.pcnfsd /var/spool/lpd
SuSe Linux 6.3 (on 5.3 everything was fine)
Any Ideas??
Viele Gr��e
Klaus Sch�nenberg
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From: Klaus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nenberg?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail: domain name must exist?!
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 01:08:34 +0200
Try to edit the /etc/sendmail.cf file:
DSpopserver.yourprovider.com
DM<nothing !!!>
Cw localhost your-own-domain-name.com
Beware:
There ist NO Space between DS and the Popserver�s Name
There IS a Space between Cw and "localhost"
DM ist empty
And more:
If you have an entry like THIS in your /etc/sendmail.cf:
Cwlocalhost
# file containing names of hosts for which we receive email
Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw %[^\#]
you must also edit this file. Simply enter your domain-name in the first and
only line in this file:
yourdomain.com (NOT www.yourdom...., just the domain name)
This is how I got it working (but don�t know why :-)))
Bye
Klaus
Peter Bismuti schrieb:
> I've got sendmail/fetchmail working, I can pull off my mail from the pop
> server and read it in elm, but I can't reply or send email out, when I
> try I get this message, can anyone tell me how to fix this? Thanks!
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to nu.cs.fsu.edu.:
> >>> MAIL From:<peterb@roughneck> SIZE=1182
> <<< 501 <peterb@roughneck>... Sender domain must exist
> 501 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data format error
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Klaus Sch�nenberg
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:11:55 -0500
On 2 Aug 2000, Bill Unruh quoth:
$$ In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Andrew N.
McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
$$ ]$$
$$ ]$$ Subject: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
$$
$$ ]I generally refer to Mandrake as RH/Mandrake just to clarify much
$$ ]of the lineage of Mandrake. Much like many say Linux, and some
$$ ]say GNU/Linux to clarify the lineage of most of the tools for the
$$ ]OS. If this is a bit confusing, I apologize. Perhaps I should just
$$ ]say Mandrake.
$$
$$ No, you should have said "in file, version 3.30"
Here, let me spell this out for you... Who decided to put that
version of file ine Mandrake 7.1? The people that develop Mandrake!
That means they are responsible for bugs in their Linux distribution.
file 3.31 is fine, IFAIK versions prior to 3.30 are fine. 3.30 is
not fine, but the developers of Mandrake used it. Therefore,
I point the finger at Mandrake. On of the biggest decisions in
developing a distribution is deciding what should go into it. They
screwed up on this one, admit it.
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:12:46 -0500
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Richard Steiner quoth:
$$ Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
$$ spake unto us, saying:
$$
$$ >I generally refer to Mandrake as RH/Mandrake just to clarify much
$$ >of the lineage of Mandrake. Much like many say Linux, and some
$$ >say GNU/Linux to clarify the lineage of most of the tools for the
$$ >OS. If this is a bit confusing, I apologize. Perhaps I should just
$$ >say Mandrake.
$$
$$ Mandrake and Red Hat are becoming different enough that it might be a
$$ good idea to consider them as totally separate (if largely compatible)
$$ distributions.
Point taken. :-)
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the qutation mark ""
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:20:21 -0500
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, alikbm quoth:
$$ hi i am using mandrake 7.1 and from some reason i can't get gcc or g++
$$ to compile the simplest command : printf("hello world");
$$
$$ the error is : parse error before character 0250
$$
$$ what is it and how do i cope with it?
This is better suited to another NG perhaps, but if your code
is short(read "20 lines or less"), post it, in its entirety.
I would be willing to bet this is a simple error, are you fairly
new to C? Anyway, the following works on Mandrake 7.1 ( For
me anyway ):
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
printf("Hello, world!\n");
}
HTH && HAND,
anm
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Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
From: Ciaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:20:23 -0700
Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kevin Croxen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I think what our semiliterate friend meant to say was
>>edit the lilo.config and then rerun lilo as root.
>>
>>Now while I'm not familiar with Mandrake itself, I
>>can say that most distributions allow you to do this
>>operation from within their install routines; SuSE
>>for example has a "modify boot configuration" panel
>>in its YaST routine. Mandrake presumably has the
>>equivalent. Otherwise, just edit the lilo.config
>>manually to set the default OS and the delay, then
>>post editing run lilo to load your modified
>>configuration. As always when fiddling with Linux's
>>boot configuration, make sure you have a
>>bootdisk ready so that in the unlikely event something
>>goes wrong and your system fails to boot with its
>>modification, you can boot your installed system from the
>>bootdisk and take a second stab at editing the lilo.config
>>
>
> ...accept UNIX like dum abbriviations and call it LILO.CONF.
As opposed to Windows and dumb abbriviations like ini, reg, bat
etc
Cheers,
Ciaran
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Slackware 7 locking up in X
Date: 2 Aug 2000 19:30:09 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Mathis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-This is a problem I have had with both the Slackware 7 and Slackware 7.1
-stock installs. Normal applications run with no problems, and I can run
-X with benign programs like xterm and not encounter any problems, but if
-I try to run a graphically intensive application such as netscape or
-wine, it locks up the computer. COMPLETELY locks it up, not just the
-console.
-
-No matter how much I attempt to isolate the problem, I still have about
-6 contenders. I have run slackware 3.6 stock install on this machine
-for over a year with 60+ day uptimes running all sorts of applications,
-so I tend to doubt that hardware is the issue (but can never be
-completely ruled out, of course)
-
-Slackware 7.0 included the 2.2.13 kernel and 7.1 uses the 2.2.16. If
-either of these kernels has a known problem, I'd appreciate information
-about this, as I could easily try a different kernel out. I plan to do
-this anyways, but I'd at least like to know if I'm on the right track or
-not.
-
-If there are any known problems with recent versions of X, this
-information will also be appreciated. Installing an older version of X
-won't be as easy, as many of the applications included with the
-operating system are no doubt compiled against the libraries so there
-may be some conflicts. I can't see how netscape, or even wine for that
-matter would be able to lock up the machine since neither of them have
-root access, and it bugs me that my favorite operating system is
-crashing on me. :(
-
-Anyways, if anyone has some advice, I would certainly appreciate it.
-Thank you.
I have one comment.
On my home machine running Slack 7, it would consistently crash running the
version of KDE that comes with Slack7. However it seems to be in KDE. I
reverted my setup to FVWM95 which I was using before, and everything worked
fine.
Note that on My father's machine, and my 2 machines at work with Slack 7 run
KDE just wonderfully. It's just KDE on one machine that causes problems.
So if you're running KDE take a crack at using some other windowing environment
and see how it goes.
Hope this helps,
BAJ
-
--Restil
-Paul Mathis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Subject: Re: How to insert degree symbol in Linux?
Date: 2 Aug 2000 23:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:04:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I would like to insert a degree symbol in a text line in Linux.
reply:
>The COMPOSE key is usually mapped to the right-hand Ctrl key on a PC
>keyboard. If pressing Right_Ctl,0,* doesn't give you a � symbol, then
>execute the command
> xmodmap -e 'keysym Control_R = Multi_key'
FWIW, the symbol between the word "a" and the word "symbol" above,
as displayed on my terminal, appears as nothing but a rectangle of
gray. While this doesn't bother me, part of the success of your
typesetting is going to depend upon how it's interpreted by the
recipient. Another mark that causes a lot of trouble is the
bullet.
MP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DNS
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:39:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Bind is in fact running. I can ping host name after host name on the
> > outside, but nothing on the inside. Does masquerading interfere with
DNS
> > at all? Is there somewhere to bind the local DNS to a specific NIC?
> >
> > -Sam
>
> Do you actually have entries for the hosts on your LAN?
>
> Did you change any settings regarding file sharing on any of the
> systems? What happens if you shut down Samba and reboot the four
> other machines? I think a Samba problem is preventing you from
> resolving the NetBIOS names. If you actually do have DNS entries
> and are not relying on a browse master (WINS server, etc.), then
> ignore this.
>
No settings have been changed (except in an attempt to get it working).
Killing Samba and restarting it doesn't help. Rebooting the workstations
doesn't work. I even went back to a standard smb.conf file and started
over.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install new hardware in Linux?
Date: 2 Aug 2000 16:53:45 PST
I am sure that this sounds like a dumb question, but if you have
physically installed the hardware -- how do you then install it
in Linux. I mean things like sound cards, video cards, keyboards,
mice, printers, modems, network cards, etc. Thanks.
--
Neil
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From: Henry Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible?
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:04:17 -0400
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Henry Garcia wrote:
>
>
> What machine do you have a working linux without an FPU?
After all is said and done. And after assurances that Linux should work without
an FPU on m68k machines, I still haven't heard of anybody succeeding without
one. Anybody?
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<p>What machine do you have a working linux without an FPU?</blockquote>
After all is said and done. And after assurances that Linux should work
without an FPU on m68k machines, I still haven't heard of anybody succeeding
without one. Anybody?
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