Linux-Misc Digest #343, Volume #25 Fri, 4 Aug 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
RPM and installp ("Stuart D. Gathman")
"ln -s" on dos partition (Vinod Gupta)
Problem with kpackage. ("Database")
Re: "ln -s" on dos partition (Tony Lawrence)
Book to learn about Server-Side Apps? (Mitchell Timin)
Re: gzip / zip / compress : 2 gig limit? (Byron A Jeff)
Refusing telnet connections (Paul)
Re: Problem with kpackage. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Refusing telnet connections ("Simon")
Re: Netscape popups (John-Paul Stewart)
Re: Netscape popups (Josef Drexler)
reinstalling LILO (Simon Lemieux)
Re: Deja.Com Daily Summary: comp.os.linux.misc 1/1 ("Mark P. Fister")
Re: RPM and installp (Nicholas Dronen)
Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? (Andrew Gabriel)
Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? ("m.hoes")
Re: partitions ("K")
Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps? (Patrick Connors)
sound card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sound card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Stuart D. Gathman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix
Subject: RPM and installp
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:50:08 -0400
We have a number of inhouse packages in installp format. Now we are
supporting RedHat and are creating RPM packages. To avoid duplicate
effort, I ported RPM to AIX planning to use RPM packages for
everything. However, I couldn't help noticing that nearly all the
information needed to produce an AIX package is right there in the RPM
spec file.
I am tempted to modify RPM to create AIX installp format as an option.
Has anyone already thought of this? Are any efforts underway? To avoid
naming conflicts, I suggest beginning the installp package name with
"rpm". So, for example, the RPM sub-package named ncurses-devel would
become the AIX fileset rpm.ncurses.devel.
--
Stuart D. Gathman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703
591-6154
"Microsoft is the QWERTY of Operating Systems" - SDG
"Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song
for
a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?"
commercial.
(HINT: The song is "Dies Irae" from the Mozart Requiem.)
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From: Vinod Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "ln -s" on dos partition
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:44:03 +0200
We can't create symbolic links on dos/fat partition
using linux "ln -s <dst> <src>".
Is there any way around?
Vinod.
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From: "Database" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with kpackage.
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:19:30 GMT
I have Suse 6.4 and the package came with several cd's of apps. The kpackage
icon is next to every app saying that it is using kpackage to open rpm
files. I click on a app and it doesn't do anything. Am I using it wrong?
Please help.
database
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "ln -s" on dos partition
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:42:26 -0400
Vinod Gupta wrote:
>
> We can't create symbolic links on dos/fat partition
> using linux "ln -s <dst> <src>".
> Is there any way around?
A symbolic link requires a special flag ( the symlink bit -
duh!) set in the inode. Dos filesystems don't have that, so
therefore don't have symbolic links. I can't think of any
clever or idiotic way to get by that..
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps?
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:46:46 GMT
Can someone recommend such a book? I'm an out-of-date programmer. I don't
know CGI, PHP, XML, or most of the other acronyms involved in active
websites. I would like to understand how it all works.
Thanks,
Mitch
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: gzip / zip / compress : 2 gig limit?
Date: 4 Aug 2000 14:42:29 -0400
In article <8mcdu7$6cp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
Hi. I mailed this to Aaron along with posting...
>
>I have a Linux fileserver for my company of ~60 people. I have about
>40 gig of data uncompressed. I back up to tape, but I'd also like to
>be able to tar it (with compression, like tar -cvzf), or zip it, or
>something. Unfortunately all methods die at the 2 gig limit mark. I
>assume this is a limitation of the compression program rather than the
>ext2 filesystem isn't it?
It's a limitation of the Intel 32 bit Virtual File System for Linux up to
2.4 kernels.
>
>I read about somebody compiling gzip to support larger files, but don't
>have a clue where to start. Can anybody help me create compressed
>files greater than 2 gig?
Another option. You could simply split the output of your gzip into multiple
files. For example:
tar -czvf - | split -b1800m - archive
would create a series of 1.8 Gig files that contain your archive. To
reconstitute:
cat archive* | tar -xzvf -
This is a temp fix until 2.4 with large file support is in wide use.
BAJ
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From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Refusing telnet connections
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:35:50 GMT
I have a Linux mail server set up running Rh 5.2. It is used for
email and internet access only and is connected to the Internet through
a dialup PPP connection. How can I set it up to refuse any telnet
connections from the Internet, but not from the LAN it is on?
Thanks,
Paul
--
"If your lazy, you will fail. If you keep at it, you will be rewarded"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with kpackage.
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 20:58:01 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:19:30 GMT, "Database" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have Suse 6.4 and the package came with several cd's of apps. The kpackage
>icon is next to every app saying that it is using kpackage to open rpm
>files. I click on a app and it doesn't do anything. Am I using it wrong?
For installing and removing rpm's I use Yast. kpackage is a nice tool to view
and search installed packages. Don't use it for other things, it might interfere
with Yast.
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refusing telnet connections
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:57:43 +0100
hosts.allow hosts.deny
Deny all..
Allow only local net IP
Simon
"Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mf2e6$57t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a Linux mail server set up running Rh 5.2. It is used for
> email and internet access only and is connected to the Internet through
> a dialup PPP connection. How can I set it up to refuse any telnet
> connections from the Internet, but not from the LAN it is on?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>
> --
> "If your lazy, you will fail. If you keep at it, you will be rewarded"
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape popups
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:01:13 GMT
Tim Haynes wrote:
>
> -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > How does one get rid of popup windows in Netscape? It
> > > > annoys me big time when visiting (or leaving) a site I get
> > > > an obnoxious, unsolicited popup window.
> > >
> > > Don't visit porn sites.
> >
> > And just how does one tell a porn from a non-porn site? Not all
> > porn sites have sex, body-parts ... in their URLs. Even if one
> > could divine all the present porn URLs, by tomorrow some of them
> > would change. Redirection is the game they play: Seriously.
>
> I never knew that <http://home.netscape.com/> was a porn site... damn thing.
Likewise there are popups in places at ibm.com. You check out specs on a new
computer and they give you a popup advertising their participation in the
Olympics. Does that make IBM a computer porn site or an Olympic porn site?
J-P Stewart
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From: Josef Drexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape popups
Date: 4 Aug 2000 18:57:25 GMT
And Lo! It was upon the 03 Aug 2000 that JCA said unto the world:
> Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:39:34 -0700, JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > How does one get rid of popup windows in Netscape? It
>> > annoys me big time when visiting (or leaving) a site I get an obnoxious,
>> > unsolicited popup window.
>>
>> disable JavaScript.
>>
>
> Without disabling JavaScript.
Wait for the Linux version of WebWasher (http://www.webwasher.com) to
become available.
Or install the Windows version somewhere and use this computer as http
proxy until then.
--
Josef Drexler | http://publish.uwo.ca/~jdrexler/
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From: Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: reinstalling LILO
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:16:07 GMT
Hi,
I currently have Windows98 and RedHat 6.1 on my HD... I installed Windows
first and then Redhat so lilo would overwrite the first sector on Windows'
partition... but now I need to reinstall Windows and I know the installer
always perform a Format that will erase lilo... I was wondering how I could
have lilo rewrite it's boot sector over the first of windows' partition just
like the Redhat 6.1 installer does!
Thanks a lot!
Simon
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From: "Mark P. Fister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deja.Com Daily Summary: comp.os.linux.misc 1/1
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:47:15 -0500
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:54:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> * Subject: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get_dynamic_info:
> Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!
> Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://iw.deja.com/article/%3C397F3516.793E3B1%40atg.com%3E
GACK. I'm sorry. The article really does have that as a subject. I
feel sooooooooo stupid.
--
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\_/} Geek Extraordinaire To the pessimist, it's half empty. \_/}
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From: Nicholas Dronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM and installp
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:37:02 GMT
In comp.unix.aix Stuart D. Gathman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a number of inhouse packages in installp format. Now we are
> supporting RedHat and are creating RPM packages. To avoid duplicate
> effort, I ported RPM to AIX planning to use RPM packages for
> everything. However, I couldn't help noticing that nearly all the
> information needed to produce an AIX package is right there in the RPM
> spec file.
> I am tempted to modify RPM to create AIX installp format as an option.
> Has anyone already thought of this? Are any efforts underway? To avoid
> naming conflicts, I suggest beginning the installp package name with
> "rpm". So, for example, the RPM sub-package named ncurses-devel would
> become the AIX fileset rpm.ncurses.devel.
You might want to add that functionality to alien. That'd bring
us one step closer to having an all-in-one package converter. :)
+ http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/
+ Alien is a program that converts between the rpm, dpkg, stampede slp,
+ and slackware tgz file formats. If you want to use a package from another
+ distribution than the one you have installed on your system, you can use
+ alien to convert it to your preferred package format and install it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gabriel)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: 4 Aug 2000 18:36:57 GMT
In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008040944200.1204-100000@mik>,
Michal Kaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm not sure but I thing i read somwhere
>that even Windows NT was compliant with POSIX.
You did. However, it's a tick-list item only, not useful for real work.
For example, I don't think you can mix the POSIX interface with any of
the normally used Windows APIs. This makes it completely useless.
--
Andrew Gabriel
Consultant Software Engineer
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From: "m.hoes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:43:46 +0200
Yes, NT is POSIX 1 compliant.
[ But arent we losing the subject of this thread in here somewhere ? ]
Anyways, thanks for all the responses ...
m.hoes
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Michal Kaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.21.0008040944200.1204-100000@mik...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > So, is OS/390 (or MVS?) a flavor of Unix(tm), or just Posix-<something>
> > compliant?
> >
>
> OS/390 is compliant with Unix 95. I'm not sure but I thing i read somwhere
> that even Windows NT was compliant with POSIX.
>
> --
> Michal Kaspar
>
> VSE Praha
>
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From: "K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partitions
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:38:29 -0400
Linux Mandrake has grub which seems to be able to boot beyond 1024
cylinders.
"Robert Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar),
> In a message on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 07:00:38 GMT, wrote :
>
> PAK> "constants" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> PAK>
> PAK> > Hello
> PAK> >
> PAK> > I want to manually set my partitions for an 8.4 gig hard drive
using
> PAK> > Linux Mandrake 7.1. Could anybody tell me what partitions need to
be made
> PAK> > and the size each should be. I will only have linux on the hard
drive. I
> PAK> > know a couple of partitions are /tmp, /usr, /home, /. Are there
any I am
> PAK> > forgetting? Thanks in advance.
> PAK>
> PAK> There is no requirement that you make additional partitions. You
could
> PAK> easily stick with a / and a swap partition. Additional ones you could
>
> Be careful: an 8.4gig WILL have more than 1024 cylinders, so unless one
> is booting from floppy or wants to hunt for the updated lilo, you need /
> (or /boot) as a smaller partition early in the disk geometry space.
>
> PAK> make beyond the above are /var, /opt, /usr/local. Well, you could
very
> PAK> much make any directory into a partition but don't go overboard
> PAK> because it is possible for one of them to fill up too fast because
you
> PAK> made it too small.
>
> Some partititions are by their nature small and stable -- / (/boot),
> /var, etc. /usr is also generally a 'stable' partition. There are
> security, backup, and system admin (and system recovery) reasons for
> having / (/boot), /usr, /var separate from everything else.
>
> PAK>
> PAK> --
> PAK> Prasanth Kumar
> PAK> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> PAK>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> \/
> Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Patrick Connors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps?
Date: 4 Aug 2000 19:45:47 GMT
Try "Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing" by Philip Greenspun.
Published by Morgan Kaufman.
Go to arsdigita.com and poke around; you can read it online. Amazon,
BN and the other booksellers usually have it. I'd give you the
ISBN but it's miles from here at the moment.
Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Can someone recommend such a book? I'm an out-of-date programmer. I don't
: know CGI, PHP, XML, or most of the other acronyms involved in active
: websites. I would like to understand how it all works.
: Thanks,
: Mitch
--
Patrick Connors |
| Dance like there's nobody watching
|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: sound card
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:43:12 GMT
Hi,
Our new Dell Linux box came with Soundblaster Live! Sound card. I'm
having difficulty getting it to play music, etc. I get the system beep
THROUGH THE SPEAKERS though. sndconfig runs smoothly, but the sound
sample can not be heard. Selecting Soundblaster Live! manually doesn't
change anything.
What should I do? How can I find out if the kernel needs to be
recompiled? It's a shame that this doesn't work, because we paid GOOD
money to buy a pre-installed system from Dell, and it doesn't quite
work, while my cheap WinPC at home runs RedHat6.2 flawlessly.
Thanks a bunch
Wroot
P.S. Model: Creative Labs | SB Live! EMU10000
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: sound card
Date: 4 Aug 2000 20:05:12 GMT
Not sure why but I've had problems with the version of the sblive drivers
that comes with the kernel. On one system the sound from sndconfig was clear
but garbled, on a second it was very faint and garbled.
Grab the latest snapshot at opensource.creative.com. If your compiler is set
up right the install should take under 10 seconds. (only slight exaggeration)
tar zxvf emu101k?.tar.gz
cd emu101k
make
sudo make install (or "su" followed by "make install" if you don't use "sudo")
We got our PC through a local vendor and shelled out $50 for the "shareware
version" of Redhat 6.2 (what we could have downloaded ourselves free had we
wanted to spend the time). What we got was a system with no hardware
configured and *every* *single* rpm from the CD installed on our harddrive.
We were not pleased. It would be nice if Dell had updated the sound drivers
for you, but I'm used to having to go out and get the latest drivers on
Windows PCs too, so I guess this isn't so bad.
Chris
In alt.os.linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hi,
: Our new Dell Linux box came with Soundblaster Live! Sound card. I'm
: having difficulty getting it to play music, etc. I get the system beep
: THROUGH THE SPEAKERS though. sndconfig runs smoothly, but the sound
: sample can not be heard. Selecting Soundblaster Live! manually doesn't
: change anything.
: What should I do? How can I find out if the kernel needs to be
: recompiled? It's a shame that this doesn't work, because we paid GOOD
: money to buy a pre-installed system from Dell, and it doesn't quite
: work, while my cheap WinPC at home runs RedHat6.2 flawlessly.
: Thanks a bunch
: Wroot
: P.S. Model: Creative Labs | SB Live! EMU10000
: Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: Before you buy.
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