Linux-Misc Digest #343, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 12:13:01 EST
Contents:
Tar for backups - How big? (Doug Poulin)
Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Eric")
Re: HELP: Netscape preferences ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Stephane Bourdeaud")
Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Stephane Bourdeaud")
Re: Tk based alarm clock ("Donal K. Fellows")
Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports (Mad@Spammers)
Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Grant Edwards)
Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Eric")
clock one hour ahead ("Thomas G.")
Re: amanda and reiserfs (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: clock one hour ahead (Adam K Kirchhoff)
Re: Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall ("The Spook")
C-Media CM8738 board ("JCA")
Re: clock one hour ahead ("The Spook")
Memory and other hardware tests? (Leonard Evens)
Re: how to print with GIMP? (Leonard Evens)
Re: How To CDRW ? Not CDR, but CDRW,...
Re: memory management
Re: clock one hour ahead (Paul Lew)
Re: Linux programming
Re: Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports (David)
Re: Memory and other hardware tests? (David)
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:33:28 -0500
From: Doug Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tar for backups - How big?
If I use tar for backing up data (maybe with -z for compression), and I
have about 80GB to backup, what do you suppose the size of the
compressed archive might be? Are there better compression tools I could
use? I know the size of the compressed archive is highly dependent, but
even rough ideas would be fine.
Thanks.
While I'm at it, anyone have any luck with network attached storage and
Linux?
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:29:13 +0100
> I am having the following interesting problem:
>
> My Linux RedHat 7.0 client (kernel v2.2.16-22) is using DHCP to get an IP
> address for its eth0 interface.
>
> When I tried to telnet into it from a Win2k client, it would not accept my
> credentials (login incorrect). Sometimes the connection would just be
> dropped as well before I had time to enter my credentials.
>
> But then I noticed that the logon banner was different than what was
> specified in my /etc/issue.net.
> I then looked at the arp cache on my Win2k client, and the mac address for
> the system did not match!
> I edited manually the entry in the arp cache and then everything started
> working properly, until the cache expires and then sometimes that other
MAC
> address re-appears, and my connection is dropped.
>
> So I figure that some other Linux system is using the same IP address only
> it must have been assigned statically because otherwise the DHCP server
> would not lease me that address...
>
> My question therefore is:
> How do I tell my Linux server to try and obtain another lease (so that it
> gets another IP address).
> Now in NT (I'm an NT guy), ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew will get
a
> brand new lease, but how do I do this in Linux?
>
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
Eric
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: HELP: Netscape preferences
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:24:19 GMT
wroot wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need to get my Netscape 4.7 to to play *.au files when I click on links
> to them. In command prompt I play them with
>
> play *.au
>
> In Edit/Preferences/Netscape/Applications, what should I put in
>
> 1) Description
> 2) MIMEType
> 3) Suffixes
> 4) Application
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Wroot
Do you have RealPlayer installed and configured as a Plug-in? When I
bring up 4.7 and type in file:///usr/share/sndconfig/sample.au in the
URL it automatically pops up Real Player and plays Linus Torval's voice.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client
Date: 12 Mar 2001 14:29:36 GMT
Stephane Bourdeaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I figure that some other Linux system is using the same IP address only
> it must have been assigned statically because otherwise the DHCP server
> would not lease me that address...
That look quite strange.. if two machine have the same IP address
you should receive a gazillion of 'collision'...
> How do I tell my Linux server to try and obtain another lease (so that it
> gets another IP address).
try stop/restart the network interface, login as root and use
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart to have the interface shut down and
restart.
I suggest you try to locate the misconfigured machine in your network,
or remove that address from the pool of the DHCP server...
Davide
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From: "Stephane Bourdeaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:45:40 -0000
> That look quite strange.. if two machine have the same IP address
> you should receive a gazillion of 'collision'...
I agree, you figure it would... The strangest thing is that I was able to
get that IP address on my NT client and it did not complain about a
duplicate IP on the network...
I am not the network admin here so I don't know how they set up their DHCP
scope and all, but I think it may have been that at some point the DHCP
server went down and this Linux client has not tried to renew its lease yet.
It is also possible that it is located behind as router of some sort which
could possibly explain why it is not causing too much problems except when
you try to access directly that IP address...
Who knows...
> try stop/restart the network interface, login as root and use
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart to have the interface shut down and
> restart.
> Davide
As I told Eric, this only gets you the same IP address you had before...
Cheers,
Stephane B.
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From: "Stephane Bourdeaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:42:30 -0000
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
>
> Eric
That only gets me the same IP address as before...
I was lucky and able to get the IP address my Linux client was using on my
NT client (after deleting all trace of my old NT client IP address in the
registry and doing an ipconfig /release followed by an ipconfig /renew).
I'm sure you can do the same thing on Linux, but I couldn't figure out
how...
Cheers,
Stephane B.
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From: "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Tk based alarm clock
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:14:45 +0000
Victor Wagner wrote:
> By the way, it would require perl or Tcl interpreter to stay in memory
> during all your login session, and this seems to much for just an alarm
> clock.
It depends on whether you already have an interpreter already present.
The overhead for a separate interpreter within an already-running
process is pretty small...
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- There are worse futures that burning in hell. Imagine aeons filled with
rewriting of your apps as WinN**X API will change through eternity...
-- Alexander Nosenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Mad@Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:32:12 +0000
Hi Folks.
I am using an ipchains based packet filter with a 2.2.18 kernel.
My filter was crafted from a gfcc example and changes local port range:
# Change ip local port range
# Allows for keeping ppp-in filtering rules simple
PORT_ST=61000
PORT_END=65095
echo $PORT_ST $PORT_END > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
Filtering rules are adjusted accordingly. After I first installed Dan
Bernstein's dnscache (I was using my ISP's DNS before) name resolving
stopped working and I verified by the logs that, even though lo requests
were binding to ports in the right range, there were ppp0 requests binding
to lower udp ports. For instance (after netstat -nau):
udp 0 0 200.177.198.239:46393 128.63.2.53:53 ESTABELECIDA
udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:61015 127.0.0.1:53 ESTABELECIDA
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*
udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:*
I have seen bindings to ports as low as 1063 sometimes. I had to change filter's
udp rule to allow for binding from 1024: and it's working fine but I'd
appreciate if somebody could explain why is that happening and how could I
fix it.
I don't know if it makes any difference but my kernel is a patched version
released by Conectiva, a brazilian distro. AFAIK their patching is very
similar to RedHat's stock kernels.
Thanks for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:27:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>|> > I have seen a number of products, such a CodeWarrior and Flash 5 that
>|> > indicates that they require RedHat Linux <version>. Is this just a way
>|> > of saying "it will run on other Linuxes, but we won't support you" or
>|> > will these programs genuinly not run on other Linux distributions, for
>|> > example on SuSE.
>|>
>|> It usually means that
>|>
>|> 1) You need glibc (or other library) versions >= what was shipped
>|> with that version of RH.
>|>
>|> 2) The app assumes certain things about the file-system layout.
>|>
>|> If you can satisfy those two constraints the program will almost certainly
>|> run.
>|
>| You are correct, sir. However, I think that in most cases, it's just easier
>| to install the preferred kind of Linux; than, say, to wrestle with the inner
>| workings of Oracle or something.
>
>But why do companies centralize around particular distributions
>when there are plenty of people willing to repackage for other
>distributions?
When you have limited resources and can't affort to support all
the distributions on the planet, you've got to pick one.
>Is it because they made some deal with the people at Redhat to
>be able to call them up if they get stuck on some issue? I can
>see that at some small software house that can't afford to hire
>a couple Linux experts. But Oracle? I guess Larry made his
>billions by being stingy.
The Linux group at Oracle probably doesn't have all of Larry's
billions allocated to them. Even groups at huge companies have
budget and resource constraints.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! A can of ASPARAGUS,
at 73 pigeons, some LIVE ammo,
visi.com and a FROZEN DAQUIRI!!
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:53:39 +0100
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
> >
> > Eric
>
> That only gets me the same IP address as before...
> I was lucky and able to get the IP address my Linux client was using on my
> NT client (after deleting all trace of my old NT client IP address in the
> registry and doing an ipconfig /release followed by an ipconfig /renew).
To be honest, I'm not surprised.
I see the same behaviour on the local network I am on,
even after shutting down a machine I can still find the host through
nslookup.
> I'm sure you can do the same thing on Linux, but I couldn't figure out
> how...
You cannot force the DHCP host to give you another address, and perhaps
it's a faked DHCP anyway. You may well always get the same address.
Ask the network administrator what is going on, and why you get these
problems, it's his/her job.
Eric
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From: "Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: clock one hour ahead
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:55:36 +0100
Hello,
I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?
Daniel
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: amanda and reiserfs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 16:00:02 GMT
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how can i config amanda such that it works with reiserfs?!
Use tar as your backup program.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clock one hour ahead
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:01:53 GMT
man hwclock
Adam
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Thomas G. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
> but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:08:41 +0100
Stearns28 wrote ...
-- Cut --
>How does IPCHAINS stack up against its counterparts in the Windows
>world like Checkpoint, CyberWall and others? What features found in
>commercial packages that IPCHAINS lacks?
>
>Also, is hardware firewall better that a software firewall?
-- Cut --
I've recently changed a firewall from a Checkpoint FW1 to one based on Red
Hat 7.0 and ipchains plus FreeS/WAN.
In favour of FW1 is the GUI-based administration software and some built-in
functionality like SQL*Net proxy (doesn't work with the encrypted SQL*Net
protocol of Oracle 8i, though) and other proxies (there are some GUI-based
packages for ipchains too, I've heard, but I haven't tried any of them as
yet).
In favour of the Linux-based firewall is the price (typically only HW +
setup time/consultancy fees for Linux) as commercial SW tends to be rather
expensive, like the VPN option for FW1. A Linux firewall is very flexible,
if you know how to do some programming -- like a POP-gateway I built that
protects the inner POP-server by allowing only the most basic commands and
by verifying line lengths to avoid buffer overflows.
One Linux firewall I built, masquerades internal addresses and assigns
specific external addresses to some internal computers when connecting to a
certain server that only allows users access from some predefined IP-address
as extra protection. This same firewall accepts and redirects print-jobs
from specific external computers to internal print-servers and creates VPN
connections to externally hosted web-servers for administration.
I haven't seen anything in FW1 like the TIS Firewall Toolkit SMTP-gateway as
a secure frontend for mail servers, the POP-gateway as a secure frontend for
POP-servers or the SuSE FTP-proxy that allows incoming FTP connections to
masqueraded computer (preferably in a demilitarised zone).
All-in-all, I'm in favour of a Linux firewall as I earn more in consultancy
fees :-) and still provide the customer with a cheaper and more flexible
solution than one using FW1.
/TRY
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From: "JCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: C-Media CM8738 board
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:55:50 -0800
I am having problems getting this to work. The board is recognized all
right when my system is launched, and the cmpci.o and soundcore modules
loaded. However, under /proc no sound entry is created, and when doing a
cat of /dev/sndstat the message printed is that there is no such device. The
board is there, of course.
This happens both under 2.2.18 and 2.4.2 kernels. Anybody have any
suggestions so as to what is going on?
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clock one hour ahead
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:18:54 +0100
Thomas G. wrote ...
>Hello,
>
>I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
>but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?
>
>Daniel
If you're from Central Europe (The Netherlands, say) it might be because
your system uses UTC (i.e. Greenwich Mean Time) and your hardware clock is
set to Central European Time (CET) -- whenever you boot, your system clock
would be set to the time of your hardware clock plus an hour.
If this is the case, try setting your system clock with the "date" command
and then transfer this clock to your hardware clock with the command
"hwclock --utc --systohc" and your system should keep the time.
/TRY
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Memory and other hardware tests?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:14:48 -0600
We have a dual boot system which runs okay in Linux in level 3 and
under Windows 98 in Safe mode. It boots under Linux in level 5 going
into X
or into Windows, but when you try to do anything it crashes and
reboots. I presume there is either a memory problem or a problem
with the video card.
Where can I find a simple memory check program that is more rigorous
than the initial memory check when the machine is turned on?
Any other suggestions would be helpful.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: how to print with GIMP?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:16:52 -0600
Rick wrote:
>
> Leonard Evens wrote:
> >
> > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there somple directions to printing ith the GIMP? It seems to want
> > > to print to a file, wthr I chose my printer or not.
> > >
> > > Any help appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rick
> >
> > I don't know which version of print you have, but with the version
> > I have, there is a box at the top for printer. If you have used
> > printtool to setup a printer, you should be able to choose that
> > printer by clicking on that box. If printtool doesn't have an
> > entry for your printer, just choose something that is close
> > if you plan to use the printer for photos. The actual setup for
> > the gimp print utility is done by clicking on the setup button
> > next to the printer button. That has a quite wide variety of
> > printers of the type one might use for printing photos.
> >
> > The instructions that come with the print installer tell how to
> > set up the printer for general printing if you want to do that
> > also.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> > Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
>
> I have uninstalld GIMP. Installed and reinstalled tons of versions. The
> I reinstalled 1.1.6 and the data files. lpr cooms up, as does a etting
> for the Epson 740. I hav no clue why it wasnt working before.
>
> --
> Rick
Without being there, I can only guess. But I suspect there is
soimething wrong with you seetup. Perhaps you don't have the
right printing command.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How To CDRW ? Not CDR, but CDRW,...
Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:35:29 -0800
"Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have RedHat 7 and Sony Spressa CRX140E/CH2. I searched and searched,
but
>no information on how to use the CD ReWritable drive. There are lots of
>information on CD Recording, but not CD ReWriting.
>Any help would be appreciated.
I assume you want packet writing like in windows. There is a packet writing
patch for 2.4.0-test10 and it does apply, but since the tools that go with
it do not compile with that patch, and there is noone willing to help get
it working I would recomend you not bother. test10 is pretty old comparitively
(not even a real release) and its just not worth the bother....
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: memory management
Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:41:22 -0800
Mihai Cartoaje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have noticed that the Slackware boot disk comes with a
>moderately-featured kernel, and yet when typing "free" after
>booting, less than 1.5MB are occupied.
>
>Conversely, on RedHat, after installing a minimal kernel, removing
>all init services except keymap, removing all mingettys and
>executing directly /bin/sh, there are still 3.9 MB occupied.
>
>Would anyone tell me how to fine-tune RedHat so that it takes as
>little memory as Slackware, or what causes the difference?
Why not use Slackware????
You can try recompiling the kernel, but the prob with RH is that there are
a lot of extra crap that is supposed to make life easier for the user (IMHO
it doesn't) and those things depend on a lot of other stuff that is normally
no necissary in linux.
>
>And also has anyone tested the other distributions to know how much
>memory is used after a boot?
I never tested for memory, but I have tested several distros and still think
Slackware is the easiest and most stable system.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: clock one hour ahead
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:46:00 GMT
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:01:53 GMT, Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>man hwclock
>
>Adam
>
>On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Thomas G. wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
>> but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?
>>
If you are running SuSE 7.1, it is probably the SuSE stuff, like their
"aaa_base" system base programs which is problematical with the 2.4.x
kernels. Two "fixes" were available to correct the timezone and both
don't work; the "latest" (Mar 5, 2001 ver) made the incorrect system
clock settings worst as even the hardware clock is changed.
The original base programs only read and displayed the timezone incorrectly
and the 1st "fix" did the same but displayed both the hwclock and systime
as the same value, 8 hrs off in my case. The 2nd "fix" changed my hwclock
(cmos, bios) to at least 12+ hours ahead!!
The machine is a dual-boot with winnt4; no time problems with nt4. Have
updated kernel to 2.4.2 now and timezone problem still persist.....
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux programming
Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:46:26 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) wrote:
>On 9 Mar 2001 00:20:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elf Sternberg) wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
>>
>>>Direct access to the hardware must be done from the kernel, so the
>>>code that accesses the hardware must work within the kernel. The
>>>kernel doesn't support object instanciation, function-name mangling,
>>>garbage-cleanup, or any of the other OO things that are inherent in
>>>C++.
>>
>> I thnk a lot of C++ gurus would be stunned to learn that C++ has
>>any garbage collection whatsoever.
>
>OK, so I'm not an OO programmer <g> I was thinking of things like
>destructors here. Anyway, the key roadblock is name-mangling.
If your not an OO programmer then why do you want to use C++???? Even though
C++ OO is horrible, that is pretty much all it offers beyond C besides syntatical
sugar like op overloading which is really just garbage anyway.
The STL is a work af art but not necissary for most purposes....and not needed
in most OO languages. I guess I just don't understand the facination with
C++.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:53:32 GMT
"Mad@Spammers" wrote:
>
> Hi Folks.
>
> I am using an ipchains based packet filter with a 2.2.18 kernel.
>
> My filter was crafted from a gfcc example and changes local port range:
>
> # Change ip local port range
> # Allows for keeping ppp-in filtering rules simple
> PORT_ST=61000
> PORT_END=65095
> echo $PORT_ST $PORT_END > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
>
You can do this with a line in rc.local so that it is configured at boot
time with this:
echo "61000 65095" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
Or if your system uses "/etc/sysctl.conf" you can do it like this.
# Allowed local port range
net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 61000 65095
You will need to restart the network if your using the sysctl.conf file.
--
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory and other hardware tests?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:57:13 GMT
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> We have a dual boot system which runs okay in Linux in level 3 and
> under Windows 98 in Safe mode. It boots under Linux in level 5 going
> into X
> or into Windows, but when you try to do anything it crashes and
> reboots. I presume there is either a memory problem or a problem
> with the video card.
>
> Where can I find a simple memory check program that is more rigorous
> than the initial memory check when the machine is turned on?
I haven't used it but, you might want to look here:
http://www.desy.de/unix/linux/memtest/
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
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