Linux-Misc Digest #350, Volume #25 Sat, 5 Aug 00 10:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux RIP ?? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: Real Audio on Linux (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: linux can't boot (muzh)
Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller? (Mark White)
Re: ipchains, traceroute, and masquerading (David Steuber)
Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller? (Mark White)
ISO file help ("Cool")
Re: mgetty: prevent answering (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Netscape popups (Thomas Zajic)
Re: telnetd: All network ports in use (Steve Houseman)
Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? ("D. D. Brierton")
creating users and groups (David Steuber)
*** AIR FRANCE CONCORD UPDATE *** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps? (Mitchell Timin)
Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps? (Mitchell Timin)
need help compiling glibc-2.1.3 ("Martin Birtel")
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RIP ??
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:08:17 +0000
Dennis wrote:
>
> Hi all....
>
> No, I'm not saying that Linux is dead, just asking for a RIP (Raster Image
> Processor).
> Anyone have any ideas ?
Raster as opposed to vector graphics? Have you considered
the poster child of the Open Source movement:
http://www.gimp.org/
Erik
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Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Windows 2000 : The Tyranosaurus Rex of the software
world. Large, ferocious and soon to be extinct.
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio on Linux
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 06:08:49 +0000
Pjtg0707 wrote:
>
> I am wondering if anyone has gotten real audio to work on linux without the
> true color yet? Is there a linux streaming audio player besides real audio
> that are less stringent on the video requirements?
Have a look for trplayer http://freshmeat.net.
Trplayer is a console app which plays real audio files.
Erik
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Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it."
-- John Gilmore
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux can't boot
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 21:39:10 +1200
lu tong wrote:
>
> I patition the linux use fdisk at the installation of linux
> The patition as follows
> hda1 1-250 primary Win32FAT
> hda2 251-750 extended
> had3 751-760 ................ linuxswap
> hda4 760-1245 .............. linux native /
> hda5 251-499 Win32FAT
> hda6 500-750 Win32FAT
>
> Now it becomes:
> hda1 1-250 primary Win32FAT
> hda2 251-750 extended
> hda5 251-499 Win32FAT
> hda6 500-750 Win32FAT
> So there is any mehtod to save the work in linux
>
> muzh wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > How did you create the Linux partition originally? If you did it with
> > Fips, then Windows might still think it was the original size, so that
> > any DOS tools will over-write the Linux partition.
> > Possibly best to use Partition Magic to create the partition, if you are
> > still going to use Windows a lot -- :)
> >
> > --
> > Never trust a man in a suit --
> > cll
Your extended partition only goes to cyl.750, so anything beyond
cylinder 750 will be invisible to any operating system.
Without formatting anything, use Linux fdisk to make the following
partitions:
hda1 1-250 primary Win32FAT
hda2 251-1245 extended
hda5 251-499 Win32FAT
hda6 500-750 Win32FAT
hda7 751-760 ................ linuxswap
hda8 760-1245 .............. linux native /
You should now be able to access the data on all partitions.
After securing your data, you should further make a small /boot
partition, before the / partition, so as to be sure that the boot kernel
is below the magic 1024 cyl boundary.
Your schema would then look like
hda1 1-250 primary Win32FAT
hda2 251-1245 extended
hda5 251-499 Win32FAT
hda6 500-750 Win32FAT
hda7 751-760 ................ linuxswap
hda8 760-760 .............. linux native /boot
hda9 761-1245 linux native /
>
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark White)
Subject: Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller?
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:04 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Knop)
wrote:
> Does anybody have a favorite POV-Ray modeller?
I new to this POV-Ray game, but notice that some 3ds modellers can offer
the sort of features you're after. So how about grabbing one of them and
the 3DWin 3ds->POV coverter?
Just a thought.
Mark...
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ipchains, traceroute, and masquerading
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:59:58 GMT
lgavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' It looks like 'apostrophe' has been temporarily
' switched to be a client rather than a server
' itself. The only ipchains script necessary is on
' 'interloper'. You just need to indicate to
' 'apostrophe' that 'interloper' has become it's new
' gateway to the internet, just like any other
' client. Put in the DNS numbers that Interloper is
' using, and this may solve your problem. But, I
' could be wrong...
I think it might be best if I just forgo the firewall script until I
move apostrophe to a real IP. The problem is, this means a lot of
testing will be done in production so to speak. I was hoping to test
the firewall on my LAN rather than at my ISP.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark White)
Subject: Re: Favorite POV-Ray modeller?
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:08 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark White) wrote:
> them and the 3DWin 3ds->POV coverter?
^^^
Doh!
There is a Linux version IIRC.
Mark...
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From: "Cool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISO file help
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:58:15 +0800
Dear all,
I've download the zoot-1386.iso file from official Redhat site. Is this
file bootable? and How can I boot it. I burned it on a CD ROM and it
doesn't work at all. Is there any trick that I need to know? I'm new to both
Linux and English.... Thanks.
Emil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: mgetty: prevent answering
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:02:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>In <8melk0$qsk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
>>Is it possible to prevent mgetty from answering during certain times?
>Have two files mgetty.config.2 and mgetty.config.12
>in the 2 put
>rings 2
>in the 12 file, put
>rings 12
>Then in crontab, put a link from /etc/mgetty-sendmail/mgetty.config to
>mgetty.config.2 or mgetty.config.12 at the appropriate times of the day.
This is ridiculously complicated for such a simple task - especially
given the fact that mgetty does have its own mechanism to do exactly
what the poster wanted. See the excellent mgetty manpage and infopages
for the /etc/nologin.tty?? solution, and setup a simple cron job.
Michael
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Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape popups
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:42:55 GMT
[ XP, FUP c.o.l.misc ]
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:38:42 -0700, JCA wrote:
> Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:39:34 -0700, JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > [ ... ]
> > > How does one get rid of popup windows in Netscape? It annoys
> > > me big time when visiting (or leaving) a site I get an obnoxious,
> > > unsolicited popup window.
> > > [ ... ]
> >
> > disable JavaScript.
>
> Without disabling JavaScript.
Try Junkbuster with the junkbuster-popup.diff, both available on
Freshmeat:
<http://freshmeat.net/search.php3?query=junkbuster>
HTH,
Thomas
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- "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw." (M. C.) -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Houseman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: telnetd: All network ports in use
Date: 5 Aug 2000 12:16:32 +0100
There was an old problem that pty's werent correctly config'd that
gave this (misleading) message ...
If system config'd for unit98 pty's : is there an fstab entry for
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
AND does /dev/ptmx exist ?
#lsa /dev/ptmx
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 Dec 22 11:31 /dev/ptmx
Hope you fix it soon,
Steve Houseman
--
currently steve.houseman at virgin net
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From: "D. D. Brierton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:18:53 +0000
Why are the contents of /var/lib/rpm so enormous? As I understand it,
this is the location of the rpm databases, listing everything that's
installed on my machine. Well, I do admittedly have a lot of packages
installed, but 56MB seems pretty big to me. So, is this to be expected,
or ought I to be doing something to keep the size of these files in
check somehow?
[root@excession /root]# ls -l /var/lib/rpm
total 57020
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16384 Aug 5 13:03 conflictsindex.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21032960 Aug 5 13:03 fileindex.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24576 Aug 5 13:03 groupindex.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28672 Aug 5 13:03 nameindex.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24338440 Aug 5 13:03 packages.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57344 Aug 5 13:03 providesindex.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21123072 Aug 5 13:03 requiredby.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16384 Aug 5 13:03 triggerindex.rpm
[root@excession /root]# du /var/lib/rpm
56M /var/lib/rpm
Thanks in advance,
Darren
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D. D. Brierton Department of Philosophy, University of Edinburgh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: creating users and groups
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:00:01 GMT
How do I create users and groups without using yast? What are the
canonical commands to do this?
Also, do I have to set up a home directory for users? I want Apache,
PostgreSQL (which requires it) to have their own users and groups
without having an unnecessary /home directory or shell assigned to
them.
I am using SuSE 6.2. I am setting up Apache and PostgreSQL from
source, not from the distribution.
While I'm here, how does a user normally change his password?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *** AIR FRANCE CONCORD UPDATE ***
Date: 5 Aug 2000 12:50:41 GMT
It took them eighty years since World War I, but
the French finally figured out how to kill Germans.
===================================================================
New Concorde schedules from Air France:-
Depart Paris CDG 1700
Arrive Hotel Gonesse 1703
===================================================================
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been killed?
A.) Scratching weakly at the inside of his body bag.
===================================================================
Wealthy German tourists love the Hotel Gonesse. They drop in all the
time.
===================================================================
Q.) How many wealthy German tourists can fit into a VW Bug?
A.) 100. Four in the seats, 96 in the ashtray.
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From: Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:40:54 GMT
Thank you.
m
Patrick Connors wrote:
> Try "Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing" by Philip Greenspun.
> Published by Morgan Kaufman.
> Go to arsdigita.com and poke around; you can read it online. Amazon,
> BN and the other booksellers usually have it. I'd give you the
> ISBN but it's miles from here at the moment.
>
> Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Can someone recommend such a book? I'm an out-of-date programmer. I don't
> : know CGI, PHP, XML, or most of the other acronyms involved in active
> : websites. I would like to understand how it all works.
>
> : Thanks,
>
> : Mitch
>
> --
> Patrick Connors |
> | Dance like there's nobody watching
> |
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From: Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:51:45 GMT
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I noticed that you mentioned Python, which
I am currently learning. I want to create a server-based application which
does quite a bit of processing triggered by requests from many users. Each
user request would generate a response to be sent back to the user. The
application would make heavy use of a database; I plan to use Oracle. Each
transaction with a user would fetch and often update data in the DB. I plan
to run this under linux on a fast PC.
My past programming experience was mostly in C during 1980-1995. I used to
know C very well. Now I'm halfway through "Learning Python" from O'Reilly,
but I haven't done any Python programming yet.
Any words of wisdom will be appreciated.
m
Christopher Browne wrote:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Mitchell Timin would say:
> >Can someone recommend such a book? I'm an out-of-date programmer.
> >I don't know CGI, PHP, XML, or most of the other acronyms involved in
> >active websites. I would like to understand how it all works.
>
> There are a number of major "approaches" to different kinds of
> server-based applications, so that the software good for one thing
> may be pretty poorly suited to another.
>
> The sorts of things to consider include:
> -> Are you going to have a database for storing information?
> What data will be in there, and how do you plan to integrate it
> into the application?
>
> -> How do you plan to manage the text that is to be presented to
> users of the system? Some schemes involve pushing that into
> the database, and having things strongly tied to the DBMS.
> Others involve having "files" containing templates. Still
> others involve creating closures, where the point of the
> exercise is to write programs that then write programs to
> generate HTML.
>
> That's a _big_ mouthful, and only _starts_ to characterize
> the differences between web apps.
>
> -> XML comes into the picture when you want to have pieces of
> the system communicate with one another, transferring
> application-specific kinds of documents around. I'd suggest
> that you not start with this, at least not immediately, as
> it tends to leap you into the "frying pan" of having to
> design your own computer language (e.g. - DTD/Schema), and
> if you're not yet clear on things like CGI and other ways of
> doing server-side processing, this may expand the complexity
> of the application too high for you to initially cope with.
>
> -> Note that there tends to be more than one way to accomplish
> things. CGI, the original way of making servers "do work," tends
> to get a "bad rap" as being inefficient due to the inefficient ways
> that it is often implemented. People then conclude that "CGI
> is inefficient, and we must strew salt on the earth so we never
> seriously consider using anything like it," whilst things like
> the FastCGI "protocol" make it possible to make virtually
> identical implementation strategies work entirely faster.
>
> You might try installing a Linux distribution on a box, along with:
> a) Apache, the "commonly deployed" web server;
> b) PHP3, one of the common web app implementation schemes;
> c) Perl and Python, two of the most popular "scripting languages"
> commonly used to build web apps;
> d) Try out some further web app scheme like Zope, to see some
> different strategies.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
> Why do we wash bath towels, aren't we clean when we use them?
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From: "Martin Birtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need help compiling glibc-2.1.3
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:56:27 +0200
Hi!
I have recently installed slackware 7.1 on my 400Mhz K6 III(overclocked to
450MHz). Since i did this from floppies i didn't have the glibc and kernel
headers and sources on my hdd.
So i firstly installed them and made a "make config" in the kernel source
directory to build the version.h.
Then I compiled the glibc-2.1.3 sources. Everything was ok until i started
"make check":
The action was interrupted and i got the following message: "ld returned 1"
crt1.o was not found
can anybody help me, with this???
thx in advance
Martin Birtel
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