Linux-Misc Digest #350, Volume #27               Tue, 13 Mar 01 11:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Free ISP for Linux Users? (Anthony Campbell)
  Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2! (Lack Mr G M)
  Re: CRC error b4 decompressing kernel? ("Keith Besterfeldt")
  Re: lost root passwd (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Looking for free Terminal Emulator (Naftali Salz)
  Why did kernel jump to 2.4? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4? (Adam K Kirchhoff)
  Re: location of libraries ("Martin Collins")
  Re: lost root passwd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4? (Thomas Ruedas)
  Re: Does Linux support Pentium 4 CPU ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
  Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2! (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: lost root passwd (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
  Re: No swap being used (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Memory and other hardware tests? (Leonard Evens)
  Re: location of libraries (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Patching the kernel - more info needed (Paul Kimoto)
  Extracting the bootimage from a bootable (El Torito) CD ? (Rainer Krienke)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Laurent Cortier)
  Re: ssh on RedHat 6.2 ("Chris Coyle")
  Tuesday 13 March The Linux Society Meeting: Installing Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: how to network? ("Chris Coyle")
  Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4? (bgeer)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell)
Subject: Re: Free ISP for Linux Users?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:38:12 +0000

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:37:27 +0000, David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"f@m4ma" wrote:
>
>> If you're in the UK try freeserve :)
>>
>> J Garcia wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking for a free ISP for Linux users just like
>> > NetZero is available for Windows users. Anybody know
>> > if there is one? Thanks a lot.
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > Do You Yahoo!?
>> > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
>> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
>If you can put up with waiting to connect every time
>
>ATDT08440402001
>
>BUSY
>
>ATDT08440402001
>
>BUSY
>
>ATDT08440402001
>
>BUSY
>
>etc
>


So why not ntl?

Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian (Windows-free zone)
For electronic books, skeptical essays, and over 120 book reviews, go to:
http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/

"The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the
palpably absurd. It is the chief occupation of mankind." - H.L. Mencken


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:30:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:
|>
|> I have compiled the 2.4.2 kernel and applied ppp-2.4.0 to for my RH6.1
|> linux box.
|> But as I connect my linux box to internet with modem.
|> It said that ppp support is not included in my kernel or loaded as
|> module.
|> As I try to modprobe ppp, ppp1 or ppp0, it said that ppp cannot be
|> found.
|> Then what I should include in kernel configuration to include ppp
|> support?
|> Thanks for your concern!

   Read the docs in /usr/src/linux/Documentation.

   In particular the Changes one.

   Especially the section labelled PPP.

   This tells you what needs to be in yor /etc/modules.conf file for ppp
in a 2.4 kernel.

   (And since you should now be running an up to date modutils you can
make the section conditional on it being a 2.4 kernel, just in case you
also boot 2.2 ones).


-- 
========= Gordon Lack =============== [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ============
This message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  It is *not* intended
to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else.

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From: "Keith Besterfeldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CRC error b4 decompressing kernel?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:31:44 -0600

I am having this same problem on an amdk6 400 std system.  i was planning on
replacing the hdd.  have you gotten any further in your trouble shooting?  i
had been told that the problem could be with the motherboard power saving
settings.  i disabled these and am still having the problem.

"Richard Kimber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uI8r6.18691$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner wrote:
>
> > Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I get CRC error, system halted
> What system do you have?  Is it new?
>
> > > and I have to power off then on about 2 or 3 times before it finally
> > > gives in and lets the boot process continue. Any idea what is causing
> > > this, and how can I prevent a recurrence?
> >
> > Are you overclocking?  That's one of the ways my machine will
> > sometimes halt if I overclock.
>
> I sometimes get this, though it goes away after a reset.  I am not
> overclocking.  It's a standard Intel 933 with Intel 815 board.
>
> I wondered if it signified a hardware, possibly memory, problem?
>
> -Richard.
> --
> Richard Kimber
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/



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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:48:40 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost root passwd

Sandy Drobic wrote:
> 
> When on 13.03.01 I read a letter from
> about: "Re: lost root passwd",
> I decided to do war and invoked my tribal gods with:
> 
> > Jon Tsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered?
> 
> > Reboot your machine, when "LILO" is displayed type linux 1 or linux
> > single, this will bring you in single-user mode. At that point, you
> > are root. Use passwd to change the root password. Use init 3 or init 5
> > to hop into normal-user-mode.
> 
> Whoah!  For one moment you really scared me!  It's true, that you can
> boot to single user mode that way, but at least SuSE 7.1 still demands
> the root password, so no luck that way.

It isn't possible with any SuSE distro, it will always ask for the password.

> 
> But if you have physical access to your server, then you can always
> insert the boot cd of your distribution, boot up the system from cd and
> then mount the root partition on your harddisk.  Afterwards you only
> need to delete the root password in /etc/passwd.

Better delete it in /etc/shadow (SuSE default), if your system uses shadow passwd.

> Then you can login as root and afterwards set another password
> immediately.

Good reason to always keep the server room well locked.

> 
> Sandy
> 
> --
> GAU: Gr��ter anzunehmender UMfall (FDP-Generalsekret�r zum
> Gr�nen-Sonderparteitag in J�chen am 17.01.1998)

Best regards,

Michael Heiming
-- 
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure 
about the former."
-
Albert Einstein

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From: Naftali Salz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Looking for free Terminal Emulator
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:49:03 +0200


try Tera term pro
it has an attachment for ssh
its free
and it supports colors and various fonts.

it works under windows,

I got my copy as a dos package under Suse6.1 and it still works till this
very day without having to configure it even once.

you can always get it on the web

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Paul M. Hanson wrote:

>   Can anyone please tell me of a free terminal emulator which runs on
> Windows 9X and allows login to a Linux machine?  It would be a bonus if the
> terminal emulator could also properly handle color (like at the linux
> console).
>   Thank you in advance for your suggestions and recommendations.
>
> Scott Navarre
> Precision Analytical Labs
>
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Why did kernel jump to 2.4?
Date: 13 Mar 2001 13:44:21 GMT

I was just curious why we were all using 2.2.something and suddenly 2.4 
came out? Was there a reason, like 2.3 is bad luck in Finland ;-)

Will there still be 2.3's that we can poke fun at, or something?

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:06:27 GMT

Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just curious why we were all using 2.2.something and suddenly 2.4 
> came out? Was there a reason, like 2.3 is bad luck in Finland ;-)

> Will there still be 2.3's that we can poke fun at, or something?

All odd numbered releases (ie. 2.3, 2.1, 2.5) are development...  There was 
a long line of 2.3 releases that you never saw.

Adam


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From: "Martin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: location of libraries
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:37:37 +0100

Hi,

thanks for the tip. afterstep was looking for libraries where they weren't
to be found.
After I gave it all the libraries it needs, it had a segmentation fault!

What's libc5 about?

Thanks,

Martin.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:15:37 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jon Tsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered?

> Reboot your machine, when "LILO" is displayed type linux 1 or linux
> single, this will bring you in single-user mode. At that point, you
> are root. Use passwd to change the root password. Use init 3 or init 5
> to hop into normal-user-mode.

Just to add to the systems where that will not work...  Mandrake 
defaults to requiring a password on a single user boot...

Kris

> Davide

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:17:44 GMT

Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just curious why we were all using 2.2.something and suddenly 2.4 
> came out? Was there a reason, like 2.3 is bad luck in Finland ;-)

> Will there still be 2.3's that we can poke fun at, or something?

Odd numbers are development kernels...  2.3 did/does exist, but as a
starting point to 2.4.

(Argh - vi on a Solaris system - can't use arrow keys in insert
mode...  Linux has spoiled me...  :-))

Kris
> --
> jazz 
> Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??

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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:15:57 +0100
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4?

>I was just curious why we were all using 2.2.something and suddenly 2.4 
>came out?
Odd subrelease numbers are for unstable development versions, even
numbers for stable public releases.
-- 
========================================================================
Thomas Ruedas
Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics, J.W.Goethe University Frankfurt
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux support Pentium 4 CPU
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:55:35 +0800

have u tried other distro?! redhat is buggy. some of my machines fail to
install too.

"Morris M M Law" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:98medq$f6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear Linux users,
>
> Did anyone run Linux on Pentium 4 1.5GHz CPU?  I just want to instead
> in one of the new machine that run the above processor and the
installation
> fail when booting the kernel.
>
> I am using RH 7.0.  Both CDROM and network install failed.
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Morris Law
> Assistant Computer Officer    Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong
> Science Faculty               Tel : (852) 23395909   Fax : (852) 23395862
> Hong Kong Baptist University  WWW : http://www.sci.hkbu.edu.hk/~morris
> Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or  [EMAIL PROTECTED]       ICQ : 6380626
> =========================================================================



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2!
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:12:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, OrangeDino wrote:
> As I try to modprobe ppp, ppp1 or ppp0, it said that ppp cannot be
> found.

Well, for one thing the modules are now called "ppp_generic", "ppp_async",
and "ppp_deflate".  Also, make sure your modutils are sufficiently new.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: 13 Mar 2001 15:15:20 GMT

Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know it is bad security practice, but I must remember so many
> login-password combinations and these must be changed on a regular
> basis, that I write them down somewhere that I can find. Do not put
> them on PostIt notes on your monitor, though. Preferably not even in
> the same room.

        This is somewhat off-topic for this thread, and maybe even this 
whole group, but...  Something was pointed out to me a while back that made
me rethink my position on passwords on sticky notes: A bad password can be
guessed or cracked with a tool like John the Ripper, and the attacker might
be anywhere in the world.  If your password is so bizarre that you must write
it on a sticky note...well, at least sticky notes have the advantage of not
being accessible over the Internet!
        
        I'm not trying to be an apologist for the practice - a strong password
kept nowhere but in your mind is still best - but if I had to choose between
a weak password written nowhere, and a strong password on a sticky note, I'd
go with the sticky note.

JDW



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:17:44 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Some of the swapped processes are:
> 
>  kflushd
>  kupdate
>  kpiod
>  kswapd (I am kind-of suprised that this is allowed to swap out)

These are parts of the kernel, not separate programs, and as such
they are never swapped out.  (Their entries in /proc report no
virtual-memory statistics.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory and other hardware tests?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:57:11 -0600

David wrote:
> 
> Leonard Evens wrote:
> >
> > We have a dual boot system which runs okay in Linux in level 3 and
> > under Windows 98 in Safe mode.  It boots under Linux in level 5 going
> > into X
> > or into Windows, but when you try to do anything it crashes and
> > reboots.   I presume there is either a memory problem or a problem
> > with the video card.
> >
> > Where can I find a simple memory check program that is more rigorous
> > than the initial memory check when the machine is turned on?
> 
> I haven't used it but, you might want to look here:
> 
> http://www.desy.de/unix/linux/memtest/
> 
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 99.106% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

My latest conjecture is that the problem is not with memory but
with the power supply.  It seems quite hot to the touch, and the
symptoms of rebooting are very similar to what happens when there
are transient power dips.  In any case, I am going to replace the
poweer supply and see if that fixes the problem.  Any comments?

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: location of libraries
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:20:54 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <98krif$1ho$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Collins wrote:
> What does the line /opt/kde/lib/gnulibc1=libc5 mean?

I believe this tells the dynamic linker that the libraries in that
directory belong to the libc5 universe.

Executables and libraries belong either to the (obsolete) libc5 or the
(modern) libc6 universe.  You should not try to (runtime-)link libc6
executables with libc5 libraries, and vice versa.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Patching the kernel - more info needed
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:26:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Lew wrote:
> I've read the "howto" for the "patching the kernel" in the howto for the
> kernel; also have read the man pages.  Both do not provide enough info
> as nowhere is mentioned the prompt for "file to patch:".  It took me a while
> to figure out that it meant the *patch* file itself and NOT the file
> I want to patch.

No, I am almost certain that it means the file that you want to patch.

> I got the "file to patch" prompt about 3 times in trying to patch the
> 2.4.2 kernel with the patch-2.4.2-ac18 in hopes of fixing my timezone
> problem as there is a patch for the timezone stuff.  Now, how long
> should I expect the patch to run as it is now 4 hrs on my 900 mhz athlon
> and still going; is the patch patching the kernel 3 times since I entered
> the patchfile name 3 times???  Should I have just press the enter key
> when prompted on the 2nd & 3rd times??

It is almost certain that it is waiting for something.

> Something must be wrong as it is takeing VERY much longer to patch than
> to update the kernel from scratch....will probably kill the process after
> watching tv....oh, I used "patch -e -p0 -i patch-2.4.2-ac18".

Why are you using "-e"?  Alan Cox's patches are not ed(1) scripts.
(Are you sure that "-p0" is correct?  It depends on where you start from,
and names of _your_ directory and the name of the _patch writer's_
directory.  It is usually more reliable to go to the source-code top level
and use "-p1".)

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Extracting the bootimage from a bootable (El Torito) CD ?
Date: 13 Mar 2001 15:28:47 GMT


Hello,

does anyone know how to extract the boot image from a CD that is on bootable
CDs. If you create a bootable CD you have to give a disk image file (1.44 or 2.88
MBytes) that is placed according to the El Torito standard 
somewhere in the iso9660 image. 

What I'd like to have is a utility which extracts exactly this image from a
existing bootable CD.

Does anyone know such a tool (for linux)?

Thanks 
Rainer
-- 
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Rainer Krienke                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universitaet Koblenz,              http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke
Rechenzentrum,                     Voice: +49 261 287 - 1312
Rheinau 1, 56075 Koblenz, Germany  Fax:   +49 261 287 - 1001312
=====================================================================

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From: Laurent Cortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:10:04 GMT

> If anything is going to drive me back to Windows it is *&%^$ Netscape.

I share your pain ;)

> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
Indeed, although the 6.0 should be a little better rendering-wise 
(crash-wise, it's still a Netscape app, they better fire some coders and 
hire some real ones...).

Two solutions to my eyes : 

1. Use KDE 2.1, Konqueror 2.1 is just great. Renders almost all my pages 
like Internet Explorer, runs JavaScript (when the server doesn't try to 
test the browser, coz of course Konqueror isn't specified in the server 
conf...), runs Java and I can even view some flash pages because Konqueror 
uses the Netscape plug-ins architecture (still crashy, but KDE is updated 
continuously, only a few weeks between each version :). 

All in one, since KDE 2.1 is out I haven't rebooted under Windows (I was 
still browsing under windows...). In a matter of fact, I have no more 
Windows on my disk because KDE 2.1 is the desktop environment I needed... 
Maybe not all the tools are there yet, but the KDevelop coding environment 
is amazing too so I'll probably code what I don't have available ;)

2. I heard NeoPlanet was preparing a browser for linux, based on Mozilla's 
latest version (not like Netscape, who once again couldn't wait for the 
final release - past repeats itself so much - remember HTML 4.0 and 
Netscape 4.0 ?). So it should be able to render pages nicely, but in a much 
more stable way than Netscape. It's not out yet, no mention of it on their 
site, but the promisses looked good to me... I just hope they've not given 
up on the project.

> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(
I understand, those b*tches at Microsoft surely know how to make an 
appealing browser (and how to kill young companies, but that's another 
question ;) 

My .2 euros,
-- 
    Laurent Cortier
Consultant in a free world
http://www.dsimprove.be

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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh on RedHat 6.2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:37:01 -0500


"buffalo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:o9Tq6.5330$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to install ssh rpms on my RedHat 6.2 box.  New versions of
> initscripts and glibc are required.  I've heard I can break my system by
> switching to the higher version of glibc.  Is this true?  What advice?

I just installed openssh (2.5.1 I think) on my RH6.2.
I had no problems whatsoever - it worked perfectly.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Tuesday 13 March The Linux Society Meeting: Installing Debian
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:39:34 -0500

The Debian distribution of the GNU/Linux OS machine shop has a good
package management system and about 4000 packages today.  Once you have a
working OS made at the Debian shop you install/update software as follows:

apt-get update
apt-get install new-package

To do a complete upgrade:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

Official Linux Society notice below.

Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org


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  edit-level="light">

========== Forwarded message ==========
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:01:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Stefan Mashkevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Linux Society General Meeting, Tuesday 13-Mar (fwd)

 ========================================================
        http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
 What:  The Linux Society General Meeting
 When:  Tuesday, March 13, 2001 at 6:15 pm (sharp!) to 8:30 pm
 Where: The NYPC Office
        Room 1560, floor 15
        The New Yorker Hotel,
        481 Eighth Avenue (at 34th Street)
        Manhattan,  New York City
 Agenda:
                  Installing Debian

          ==================================

                The Linux Society (TM)
             http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
          is a SIG of NYPC (http://www.nypc.org)
          meeting monthly in mid-town Manhattan.
      We hold a General Meeting each month on a topic of
        interest to new or experienced LINUX users.
      We also have a Linux Study Group in progress,
            meeting  two evenings each month
      All our meetings are free and open to all.
      For more information please check our web site
        or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ========================================================

Stefan Mashkevich

Public Relations, The Linux Society

</blockquote>

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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to network?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:04 -0500


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have two linux boxes on my desk.  What is the easiest way to connect
> them so I can telnet and ftp from one to the other?  Each box has a plug
> and play ethernet card.  I've read the various howtos, but they seem to be
> overkill.
>

1. buy a "crossover" cable to connect the 2 ethernet cards directly.
2. make sure each host (machine) has an entry in its routing table
so that it can find the other host through its ethernet interface.
Probably you want to be as specific as possible so you can still
have a default route to go elsewhere (eg. your modem)
3. for access by name, put an entry into the /etc/hosts file on
each host which names the other host with its ip address.
And by the way you should probably be using one of the "private"
ip addresses.
After that, start reading up on samba, then you'll really be cooking!




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bgeer)
Subject: Re: Why did kernel jump to 2.4?
Date: 13 Mar 2001 08:48:09 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:

 >I was just curious why we were all using 2.2.something and suddenly 2.4 
 >came out? Was there a reason, like 2.3 is bad luck in Finland ;-)

What does Finland have to do with it?  Mr. Torvalds now lives in USA,
LTIH.

& with MSWin up to 2000, Linux must work hard to catch up!

 >Will there still be 2.3's that we can poke fun at, or something?

2.3 is still listed on kernel.org, so nothing prevents poking fun at
it.  Well, maybe lack of interest...:-)

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