Linux-Misc Digest #378, Volume #25 Mon, 7 Aug 00 22:13:04 EDT
Contents:
loadlin problem (lu tong)
Re: i need help uninstalling redhat linux 6.2!!! (Robert Schweikert)
Re: SAMBA password problem (Robert Schweikert)
Re: Booting linux from ZIP (Robert Heller)
Re: reclaiming master boo block? (Robert Schweikert)
Re: RPM crashes my Linux (John Hasler)
Re: installing freenet (David Rysdam)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Christopher Browne)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Jay Maynard)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Bob Hauck)
Intelligent Autoresponder? (Joel Wilf)
Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers (Bob Hauck)
Re: Putting 2GB into several CD's (Bob Hauck)
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From: lu tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: loadlin problem
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:04:00 +0800
I use loadlin to load linux at the desktop of win98.
When I load in linux and then reboot, the linux can't reboot while it
can shut down.
But use LiLo or boot disk can reboot.
What's the probelm?
thank you!
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i need help uninstalling redhat linux 6.2!!!
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:12:43 -0400
Well if you want to get rid of lilo then you want to use
lilo -u device-name
as documentedin the lilo man page. If you want to get rid the the whole
distribution I amafraid you will have to resort to more drastic measures,
reformating the partition where you installed RH6.2 is the best way to go
about it.
use /sbin/mke2fs check the man page for this.
Good luck,
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello if anyone out there is using redhat linux 6.2 i need help
> uninstalling it i've tried the command /sbin/lilo -u and it isn't
> working it sais in the redhat install guide that it would store an
> older version of lilo in a text file but it isn't working if anyone out
> there knows any other way of uninstalling redhat linux 6.2 then email
> me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks deja member omega_666x and solo519!!!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA password problem
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:16:07 -0400
Sounds like you are having an encrypted password problem.
Check out the samba book at
http://us2.samba.org/samba/oreilly/using_samba/index.html
Chapter 6 covers passwords:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/oreilly/using_samba/ch06_04.html
Good luck,
Robert
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I'm trying to setup SAMBA so that I can access some of my files under a Win'98
> system as a shared drive, but am running into a problem. Every time I try to
> access my computer from the Win'98 system it tells me I need a password for
> \\BLACKDEATH\IPC$ and I have NO IDEA what to tell it!
>
> I've tried my own password, the password I've entered as my Samba password
> with smbpasswd (both the same PW), but it doesn't work.
>
> What do I need to do to be able to atleast LOOK at the available shares?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting linux from ZIP
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:18:00 GMT
Antonio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20Ant=F3n?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:33:31 GMT, wrote :
A=> Hello,
A=>
A=> I'm making a system with only one iomega-ZIP disk (ATAPI version
A=> connected to /dev/hda) and memory (without hardisk or CD). While
A=> installing, I connected a CD-Rom to boot and install Linux (Suse 5.3) in
A=> a ZIP diskette.
A=>
A=> I configured a partition (/dev/hda1 to full disk size) and installed
A=> LILO. The BIOS can boot from device LS/ZIP.
A=>
A=> When I reboot the computer, the ZIP drive blinks the LED (I suposse it
A=> is trying to load boot sector) and then BIOS shows the message "INSERT
A=> BOOT DISK".
Are you seeing *any* messages from Lilo -- you should see:
LILO Boot:
(the L, I, L, and O letters should appear one by one, as each of the
four parts of the Lilo boot loader loads up).
The "INSERT BOOT DISK" looks like a *BIOS* message. This is NOT from
LILO. Lilo complains by not typing all of its name (and hanging) or
typing part of its name and various hex codes, or some variation. If you
don't see at least the first L of LILO, the BIOS never read in the MBR
from the Zip drive. You need to tell your BIOS to boot from the Zip
drive -- check what the BIOS has for boot settings.
A=>
A=> I can't boot from ZIP drive, but I can load the kernel from CD-ROM and
A=> then, set the root partition to /dev/hda1 that is ZIP diskette.
A=>
A=> Is there any problem with LILO in ZIP drives?
A=>
A=> Thanks.
A=>
A=>
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reclaiming master boo block?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:21:39 -0400
Sounds like something went wrong.
- boot to Linux using your floppy
- mount the / partition
- edit /etc/lilo.config as described here:
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html#Part8
- run /sbin/lilo -C fully-qualified-path-to-lili.conf
Good luck,
Robert
Peter Bismuti wrote:
> I tried installing win98 on a dos partition and overwrote
> the MBR, I booted using a floppy and then ran lilo as root, but it
> still wants to boot into win98.
>
> Is there any way of reclaiming it without reinstalling?
>
> Thanks
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM crashes my Linux
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:13:19 GMT
Elliot writes:
> All the install programs use RPM, you know.
Not true. The "install" programs in Debian and Debian-derived
distributions such as Stormix use dpkg. Slackware has it's own installer.
> If RPM is the only software crashing my computer, how can it be a
> hardware bug?
Most likely because only RPM is exercising your system enough to tickle the
hardware bug.
Bad memory can seem software-specific. What usually happens is that each
time you boot the libraries land in the same place in RAM, the bad bits
hose the same library function, and only programs that use that function
crash.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: installing freenet
Date: 8 Aug 2000 00:42:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freenet is still in heavy development. You better ask them. You
should have a URL in the README or somewhere--if you don't and can't
find one let me know.
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke:
>I have Red Hat. I'm having trouble installing freenet. I downloaded
>everything, untared and unzipped and I don't know what to do now. The
>README file was pretty vague. I'm a beginner, so please help.
>spy_boy
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:40:36 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
>> And if company tax is lower - in some places it may be as low as 30% -
>> then the reward for buying and tax-deducting is not attractive.
>>
>Put it on business loss.
>
>Find a good accountant.
>
>I am not an accountant. Or tax consultant. But business loss is legit
>deduction.
I am also not an accountant, by profession. However, accounting _was_
one of my majors (along with computer science) in the undergrad degree
I was granted, and I prepared, during that timeframe, _hundreds_ of
tax returns, so I surely ought to have _some_ degree of cluefulness
about this.
What I _am_ fairly certain of is that you sure are showing off lots
of evidence of being utterly unqualified to be either an accountant
or a tax consultant; the amount you're describing as a "business loss"
is _not_ going to fly with the tax authorities.
Business expenses are typically _deductible_, which is a term that has a
reasonably precise meaning. It does _not_ mean that they may be deducted
from the tax _bill_. _That_ particular scenario is generally described
using the term "tax credit." Instead, business expenses are deducted
from taxable _income_.
If the tax rate is 40%, then that means the reduction in the tax bill
is 40% of the business expense.
Thus, if you paid a business expense of $1000, your tax bill diminishes
by $400. The remaining $600 that got paid out is _your problem._ It's
not a "deduction." It's not a "business loss." It's an AMOUNT YOU PAID,
and that's _your problem._
I'm not going to say anything more on this thread; if you are incapable
of understanding what is described in this article, then it is fairly
evident that you would be incompetent to run a business, certainly not
without the aid of a competent accountant. Furthermore, if you can't
grasp this bit of basic taxation, you're likely not competent to run a
business even _with_ the aid of a competent accountant.
Either way, trying to explain this further seems doomed to failure.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
Rules of the Evil Overlord #49. "If I learn the whereabouts of the
one artifact which can destroy me, I will not send all my troops out
to seize it. Instead I will send them out to seize something else and
quietly put a Want-Ad in the local paper."
<http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:40:38 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
>Robert Krawitz wrote:
>> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>
>> > > > Take Boeing as an example. If they go the free software route, they can
>> > > > save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
>> > > > it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
>> > > > everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
>> > > > the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
>> > > > free software.
>> > >
>> > > That's quite a different issue.
>> >
>> > That's part of the total costs too. Isn't it!?
>>
>> Of course it is, but that has nothing to do with free vs. proprietary
>> software; it's a matter of frictional losses in retraining on anything.
>
>But we're discussoing the overall values of "free" vs. propriety
>software. Ain't we?
No, the discussion is about the relative costs of the different
varieties of software.
>So. That should be part of the total equation too.
Frictional losses resulting from retraining on _anything_ are incurred
regardless of whether you work with free software or non-free software.
If deploying Windows 2000 results in a retraining bill of $4K per employee
due to the differences between W2K and WNT, whilst deploying Linux results
in a retraining bill of $4K per employee due to the differences between
Linux and WNT, the relative difference between deploying W2K and Linux
would be $0.
That's not guaranteed to be the result; the numbers could well be
different from "$4K and $4K." But if the differences in software license
costs are high enoughs, that can mean that if Linux retraining is only
moderately more than W2K retraining, Linux proves less expensive overall.
On the other hand, deploying W2K in an environment where Unix is heavily
used is likely to result in _vastly_ more expensive training costs than
a deployment of Linux in that environment. In such a case, it is quite
easy for deployment of Linux to be economically dominant over deployment
of W2K.
A competent overall evaluation of the net costs requires looking at
a host of different kinds of costs simultaneously, combined via some
cash flow model. Preferably with some modicum of actuarial analysis.
Those that aren't familiar with Net Present Values, or who don't know what
an actuary is, are liable to find it a daunting task to competently read
such an analysis. This discussion is not leading towards anything other
than terribly fragmented analyses from which _no_ overall conclusions
may be drawn.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
ASSEMBLER is a language. Any language that can take a half-dozen
keystrokes and compile it down to one byte of code is all right in my
books. Though for the REAL programmer, assembler is a waste of
time. Why use a compiler when you can code directly into memory
through a front panel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:40:40 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
>> >Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:54:24 -0700
>> >> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >The arguement of costs is not important at all.
>> >> >
>> >> >At least for any real businesses.
>> >> >
>> >> >You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
>> >> >tax deductable.
>> >> >
>> >> >The money has got to go, either to the software companies, or to the tax
>> >> >collectors.
>> >> >
>> >> >So. Tell me where's the *real* saving!!!???
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Does tax deductability work differently in the US?
>> >>
>> >I don't know. I'll have to ask my cousin in Australia.
>> >
>> >> Here, you deduct it from your taxable income, not the tax you pay.
>> >>
>> >So. If you can deduct it from your taxable income, you're than paying
>> >less tax. Isn't it? Mate!?
>>
>> If the corporate tax rate is 30%, then for every dollar spent on
>> expenses, you get to deduct $0.30 from the tax bill.
>>
>> That means that while there is a tax "benefit," you're still behind
>> by $0.70 on the dollar, or, in other words, are sitting on a net
>> loss of money.
>>
>> I used to do tax work (in Canada; higher rates, not ludicrously different
>> principles), and was fairly amazed at the number of doctors that
>> were quite happy to throw their money away on frivolous "tax shelter"
>> investments. I think they felt happy about it because they got to keep
>> from paying the government a bunch of money. It was nonetheless quite
>> irrational from an economic standpoint since for them to save $10,000 on
>> their tax bill, they had to throw $20,000 into the "toilet" of "stupid
>> tax shelter."
>>
>> You seem to be suffering from the same delusion, namely that it's always
>> good to diminish your tax bill. That's downright _false_; the more
>> rational thing to do is to _maximize your net cash flows._ Paying an
>> extra $50,000 in taxes is a _wonderful_ thing so long as you're receiving
>> an amount significantly _more_ than $50,000. I'd rather like to have
>
>Talk to your bean counter. Put in on business loss if possible.
As I mentioned above, I have actually worked as a tax accountant, which
means that I _AM_ the "bean counter."
Your "Put in on business loss" idea is a _delusion._
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
"Are [Linux users] lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of
reliable, well-engineered commercial software?" -- Matt Welsh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 8 Aug 2000 01:44:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:05:48 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>blowfish writes:
>> So. You're agreeing that computer codes are not what normally consider as
>> "speech" under real human terms, and should not be under the protection
>> of Freedom of Speech. Right?
>No. Nor do the US Federal courts.
Actually, the federal appeals courts have ruled both ways on this question.
The court considering the Bernstein case (no, I don't have a citation) ruled
that software was speech, while a different appeals court ruled otherwise.
The trial court in the DeCSS case appears to be swayed by the argument that
software is speech, and may rule in favor of DeCSS on that basis.
I suspect this question will ultimately be settled by the Supreme Court.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:43:41 GMT
On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 19:44:49 GMT, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck) wrote:
>>If your theory of "cyclic partitions" were correct in general for large
>>disks, then we would be hearing the screams of pain from all quarters.
>I have a BIOS that supports large disks, and a 9670 MB harddisk.
>According to Linux fdisk the partition tables look like this:
[snip]
>I cannot boot DOS when this disk is in the system, not even from
>floppy. Why?
I don't know, but I would suggest that if you can't boot DOS from the
*floppy* when this disk is in the system, then you have a hardware
problem and partition tables are the least of your worries. Perhaps
there is an IRQ or IO port conflict, or some sort of BIOS bug.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Wilf)
Subject: Intelligent Autoresponder?
Date: 8 Aug 2000 01:18:29 GMT
I'm looking for software that parses an incoming email and automatically
generates an "intelligent" reply. This is really a combination chatbot
and autoresponder; and I could probably cobble together a solution in
perl, starting with the Chatbot::Eliza and Mail modules. But I'd prefer
an off-the-shelf solution, one that needs configuring or "training,"
rather than programming.
Is there anything out there (preferably in the Linux world) that does
this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: UDMA IDE Drive stops network transfers
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:43:44 GMT
On 7 Aug 2000 19:04:07 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.94 seconds = 12.96 MB/sec
>/dev/hdb:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.88 seconds = 13.11 MB/sec
>
>VIA MVP3 chipset w/VIA UDMA support enabled in kernel 2.2.16, hdparm
>-u1 -c1 -m16 -d1 applied to both drives.
/dev/sda1:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 4.13 seconds =30.99 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 8.64 seconds = 7.41 MB/sec
This is a Cyrix 133 with a three-year-old Quantum Viking drive running
off an Adaptec 2940 controller. No tweaking needed, and it was just as
fast three years ago when it was in a P-100. I just had to share <grin>.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: dc.org.linux-users
Subject: Re: Putting 2GB into several CD's
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:43:43 GMT
On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:36:47 -0400, Julio Gonzalez-At
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>compressing would be easy, I just need to duplicate
>the data before writing, but I don't know
>how to split the data into chunks in order to
>use mkisofs.
man split
To reassemble, cat part1 part2 part3 ... partN > big_file
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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