Linux-Misc Digest #378, Volume #26 Fri, 24 Nov 00 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: shutdown vs halt (unix nut)
Re: Netscape 6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
future revision date.....miracle..... ("A1")
Re: New To Linux - Distributions (Rod Smith)
future revision date.....miracle.....again..... ("A1")
Re: gnome-pim address import ("Garry Knight")
Re: problem with tcsh and bksp key ("Garry Knight")
Partitions
Re: suid ("John Doe")
ncpfs is obsolete (w.r.t. Novell 5). Is there anything to replace it? (Kenny
McCormack)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Jerry Kreps)
Re: What to do when the console gets garbled (Jerry Kreps)
Re: How to interpret KDE2 error (Jerry Kreps)
Re: shutdown vs halt ("Sync")
Help! Glibc problems on startup. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ssh problems (Jason Boyd)
Re: Help! Glibc problems on startup. ("Arthur H. Gold")
Re: Best used box to purchase for linux system ("mmnnoo")
Re: RH7 kernel compile error (Alois Treindl)
Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Sven Mascheck)
Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) (Christopher Booth)
Re: optimizing kernelbuild (Sven Mascheck)
Re: Netscape & cable 'net access? (Fester)
Re: compiler flags (Sven Mascheck)
Re: bttv (Andrew Rounds)
Re: finding error messages (Sven Mascheck)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH ("Hello World")
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Sven Mascheck)
Re: Netscape & cable 'net access? (Minko Markov)
Please confirm suspicion about fbset ("Kilian A. Foth")
Re: New To Linux - Distributions ("Sid Trewin")
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From: unix nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:14:51 GMT
Anastis wrote:
> well...
> "shutdown -h now" (without the quotes of course) should work fine.
> A little bit late but it may still be useful.
> Anastis
>
> "J.Smith" wrote:
>
> > Just a quick question about the shutdown and halt commands. I used to think
> > that the shutdown command did a nice, clean shutdown, but that the halt
> > command did just 'halt' the system, right there on the spot, just as surely
> > and deadly as if I would have unplugged the power cable. No syncing of
> > disks, no stopping of services, no nuttin.
> >
> > At least that is the way it works on some of the commercial *nix'es I have
> > worked with so far. So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean shutdown
> > anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
> > Mandrake? Or am I seeing things wrong here?
> >
> > Thanks.
Another way to shutdown is to set to run level 0.
login as root and type "init 0" this will cleanly and instantly shut system down.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape 6
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:33:58 GMT
Frankly, I wouldn't call this latest version an improvement. It's so
slow at loading. I thought 4.7x was slow. This is slower. I will opt
for IE anytime.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you tried out Netscape 6 for Linux what did you think of it.
>
> I tried to use it and had lots of problems. Is it something I did
> or is this thing really that buggy?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "A1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: future revision date.....miracle.....
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:58:14 +0800
i was
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:56:23 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <ybiT5.13365$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I have found huge lists of Linux Distributions, and I am not sure which one
> to get. Bascially I use my computer for Windows based games (such as Red
> Alert 1/2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, C&C Tiberian Sun, and a few other
> DirectX and OpenGL based games) and the only application I use heavily is
> Microsoft Office 2000. Can I run these things in a particular Linux
> distribtion, if so which one?
I'm not a big gamer, so I can't be sure about your specific titles, but
very few commercial games are available for Linux. MS Office certainly
is not, although there are several office suites for Linux (ApplixWare,
StarOffice, and WordPerfect Office are the big three). You can run some
Windows programs in emulators of various sorts -- WINE, VMware, Win4Lin,
and one or two others. If your main reason for using a computer is to
use Windows-specific applications, though, you should run Windows. Linux
is good for many things, but using it primarily to run Windows programs
is not, IMHO, a good use of Linux.
If you want to use Linux to learn about Unix-like systems or to run
Linux-specific applications, though, you may want to check my Web site
on Linux distributions, http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "A1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: future revision date.....miracle.....again.....
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:02:27 +0800
i was using linuxconf (not in X win)
after i have changed all setting, i went to act. the changes
but it replied me that several files that have future revision
date......after that ......i checked the dates of those files....
they really had a future date.....(e.g. today's 13 Nov, those files were
having the date 14 Nov....)
although i "touch"-ed those "future" files....
i still have no luck ......it also replied me "future revision
dates"........
is it that the RTC of my computer had gone wrong??
any idea??
thank Q
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome-pim address import
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:17:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <OG0T5.9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "G Pollack"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to import addresses into gnomecard? If so, how?
The entries in GnomeCard are standard vCards. If you can export from
another program in the vCard format, then GnomeCard can read it.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2425.html vCard MIME format
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with tcsh and bksp key
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:17:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jean-Yves Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> shell line command, I can erase characters using this key. But if I
>> start, say, ftp and make a mistake on the ftp command line, my bksp
>> doesn't work at all and garbage is generated on the screen
>
> It's ftp's affair. Use a client with the readline libs in. Like ncftp.
Or use ftp and hit the Delete key instead of backspace.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitions
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:30:02 -0000
I have a measley 6Gig hard drive and I am attempting to install Linux as
well as continue to run Win98. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas,
such as installing a new hard drive on Win98 and then installing Linux on
that hard drive??? Any suggestions are welcome.
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From: "John Doe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: suid
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:30:39 GMT
Exactly why is this dangerous? Just wondering.
"Wayne Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Don't do this!! It is *extremely* dangerous!!! NEVER have a suid
> shell script!
>
> The safe alternative is to use the "sudo" command.
>
> -Wayne Pollock
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > I wanted to allow non-privileged users to do execute a script that would
> > normally require su access (for example "touch /bin/something"), so I
> > did "chmod +s script", however when script is executed, its body still
> > reports "permission denied".
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Wroot
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ncpfs is obsolete (w.r.t. Novell 5). Is there anything to replace it?
Date: 23 Nov 2000 22:24:12 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ncpfs no longer works with current Novell, b/c Novell is now TCP/IP based.
I.e., ncpfs works by looking for IPX traffic, and current Novell systems
don't use IPX.
Is there anything to replace it - I.e., anything to access Novell drives
when Novell is running over TCP/IP?
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:23:44 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conrad Drescher wrote:
> Hi
>
> does anybody know in which config-file the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
> initialized? It appears when calling "env" as root running on SuSE 6.4.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Conrad
>
>
SuSE doesn't create that var. Some programs require that their library path
be added to it. QTDIR is an example
Set it in ./etc/profile.local for a network environment, or
/home/<user>/.bashrc for a user.
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do when the console gets garbled
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:24:31 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Des Whewell wrote:
> Sometimes I will accidently 'more' a binary file to the screen, which
> puts the console into gobbledy-gook mode - I assume a weird font has
> been selected.
>
> How do I reverse the process? Re-booting the box seems a little bit
> over the top :-)
>
>
If you can type 'settext reset' in the blind that will fix it up.
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to interpret KDE2 error
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:26:02 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try deleting the /home/<user>/.kde2 subdirectory
Kevin wrote:
> Looks like a qt error. run:
>
> ldd kdeinit
>
> and make sure it's linking to a qt 2 lib instead of an older one. also,
> you may want to put the startkde command in your .xinitrc. That way when
> you run startx it starts everything up for you.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:14:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester) wrote:
>
> >I downloaded the KDE2 RPMs, and had a bit of trouble installing them on
> >RH7. So I removed all of my previous KDE RPMs, and installed from
> >scratch. I also installed the new qt libs. Now, when I issue "startkde",
> >I get:
> >
> >ksplash: error while loading shared
> >libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
> >symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
> >
> >kdeinit: error while loading shared
> >libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined
> >symbol: contains__C5QRectRC6QPointb
> >
> >knotify: error while loading shared
> >libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
> >symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
> >
> >ktip: error while loading shared
> >libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
> >symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
> >
> >I don't have a clue how to begin remedying this error.
>
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From: "Sync" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 05:33:45 GMT
I know in normally in *nix they recommend you do a couple of manual syncs
for the
inodes and tables to be updated before a halt is executed, I guess we can
call it a feature.
Probably for people who think halt is the safe way to shut the computer off.
Sync
"Anastis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> well...
> "shutdown -h now" (without the quotes of course) should work fine.
> A little bit late but it may still be useful.
> Anastis
>
>
> "J.Smith" wrote:
>
> > Just a quick question about the shutdown and halt commands. I used to
think
> > that the shutdown command did a nice, clean shutdown, but that the halt
> > command did just 'halt' the system, right there on the spot, just as
surely
> > and deadly as if I would have unplugged the power cable. No syncing of
> > disks, no stopping of services, no nuttin.
> >
> > At least that is the way it works on some of the commercial *nix'es I
have
> > worked with so far. So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean
shutdown
> > anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
> > Mandrake? Or am I seeing things wrong here?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Help! Glibc problems on startup.
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 05:56:01 GMT
Greetings,
System: RH 6.1. No problem since installation (6+ months). Today while
I was installing a package (via kpackage), somehow glibc got hosed.
Now on startup it gets to a point when it should start sh and spits out
a whole bunch ( more than one screen) of messages that look like that:
/sbin/mingetty: error in loading shared libraries:
/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6: no version information available
(required by /sbin/mingetty)
/sbin/mingetty: error in loading shared libraries:
/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
_dl_global_scope_end
finally it exhausts all available processes:
INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.
INIT: No more processes left in this runlevel.
"linux single" doesn't help either.
I don't want to reinstall the OS (a lot have been installed on the
system).
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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From: Jason Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh problems
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:04:12 GMT
Maybe you're using a different SSH client/server than I am (OpenSSH
2.3), but for me the syntax is:
# ssh -l username servername
username's password:
or if I were simply trying to ssh to a server on the same machine and as
the same user:
# ssh localhost
username's password:
Jason
Matthew L Creech wrote:
>
> When I try to SSH into my own box, I get this error message:
>
> #ssh blah@blah
> blah@blah's password:
> usage: login [-p] [name]
> login [-p] [-h host] [-f name]
> login [-p] -r host
> Connection to blah.com closed.
> #
>
> Anybody know what this is about? It worked fine before, but I've just
> spent the day changing file permissions and stuff trying to make my
> system more secure. It apparently works fine as far as SSH goes (if I
> type 'ssh blah@blah somecommand' it executes somecommand and spits out
> the results fine), but I don't know why it's not giving me an
> interactive shell. Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> --
> Matthew L. Creech
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (404)206-1711
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:01:43 -0600
From: "Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Help! Glibc problems on startup.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> System: RH 6.1. No problem since installation (6+ months). Today while
> I was installing a package (via kpackage), somehow glibc got hosed.
> Now on startup it gets to a point when it should start sh and spits out
> a whole bunch ( more than one screen) of messages that look like that:
>
> /sbin/mingetty: error in loading shared libraries:
> /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6: no version information available
> (required by /sbin/mingetty)
> /sbin/mingetty: error in loading shared libraries:
> /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
> _dl_global_scope_end
>
> finally it exhausts all available processes:
>
> INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.
> INIT: No more processes left in this runlevel.
>
> "linux single" doesn't help either.
>
> I don't want to reinstall the OS (a lot have been installed on the
> system).
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
[followups trimmed]
Boot from CD; reinstall the libc package; reboot
That oughta do it (and shouldn't take too long).
HTH,
--ag
--
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for more info)
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-- Studs Terkel, upon being asked what he thinks his epitaph
should be.
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Best used box to purchase for linux system
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:09:24 GMT
I don't understand this. For less money you could get a faster
PC with opengl support. Even windows95 has opengl support.
"James Hutchins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'd appreciate opinions on the pros and cons of purchasing (on Ebay) a
> used Intel, Sun, or Silicon Graphics (or ?) box to run Linux. I want to
> learn/program OpenGL, but know most graphics cards now for all machines
> support it. What other factors matter among the different machines?
>
> Thanks
> --J
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From: Alois Treindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 kernel compile error
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:15:34 GMT
Martin Stenzel wrote:
> I did not check the source now, however, do you compile for SMP?
>
> I assume your kernel will run on a single CPU machine.
>
> Go and check for the SMP support. Just tick it off. This _might_ solve
>
> the problem. The SMP support question appears right in the beginning of the
>
> kernel configuration.
>
I have the same problem, trying to compile a kernel on RH7.0.
SMP is turned off.
I have tried to trace the problem in the sources, but there everything looks
ok.
smp.h has
#ifdef __SMP___
extern in smp_num_cpus
#else
# define smp_num_cpus 1
#endif
and kernel_stat.h includes smp.h
It is a mystery to me.
Why do you think it relates to a compiler problem?
Alois
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file is not found - but I know it exists!
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:02:27 +0100
Paul Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If a shared library were missing, the error would read something like
> the following:
> rambler:~>xsetiathome
> xsetiathome: error in loading shared libraries: libXaw.so.7: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
Actually the linux kernel is too confused, if you don't have
the proper libc installed.
- ldd(1) must fail with this either, as it just also
tries to execute the file (with verbose library loading).
- even strace(1) has to fail similarly.
The only way to find out about this one is (IMHO?) to do a strings(1)
on the binary - as you mentioned yourself - but not for other executables,
but just for dynamic linking information (".so").
Yet another (linux specific) libc upgrade problem.
Sven
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From: Christopher Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:00:36 +1100
I set mine up as follows, I had already a dual boot NT/2000 system both
on NTFS, I also have a seperate ext2 partition.
Because it is my work Laptop, I didn't want to risk corrupting the NT
partition. So... I installed Mandrake 7.2 into a 1 gig partition
(after deselecting some unneeded packages), put the boot loader into
its partition /dev/hda6. I also told it to make a boot disk so it
would boot from floppy.
So to use Linux, I have to boot from floppy. or...
Run VMware, I have a demo, which is available from the web, and use the
existing partition as a virtual disk (requires some configuration,
particularly video and network).
Got that working fine.
Regards
Christopher Booth
PS I use Mandrake 7.0 at home with Lilo, which chooses between Linux and
Windows, when I choose windows, I then get the Win 2000 bootloader which
gives me the option to boot into Win 98 or Win 2000.
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: optimizing kernelbuild
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:18:38 +0100
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently recognized that "make bzImage" causes the kernel to be built
> with "-O2" setting. Could a "-O3" be harmful? Has anyone made any
> experiences trying to optimize the kernel that way?
I guess that's a question of how many already did so (and possibly
reported failures). So you better also inspect the archives of
the kernel mailinglist anyway (i am not sure if i have read about
that in particular). From time to time they discuss what compilers
to use for what kernels.
<URL:http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/back-issues.epl>
See also the kernel mailinglist FAQ <URL:http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s8-4>
"[...] What about optimizations? How do I get to use -O99"
I seems people have had bad experiences with other optimization.
Sven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: Netscape & cable 'net access?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:19:02 GMT
I saw Bob Hauck rant about the following:
>On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:26:35 GMT, asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>It browses fine, but even though I've entered 'mail' for both Pop3 and
>>SMTP (and 'news' for the newsgroups), it keeps saying it can't find the
>>server 'mail'. These are the settings I use in Netscape in Windows
>
>You probably need to put a "domain" entry in /etc/resolv.conf.
>Something like:
>
>domain home.com
For @Home it's more specific. yourarea#.state.home.com
like for me, it's wlgrv1.pa.home.com. So, to the original poster, just
home.com won't work.
--
-- Fester
Doesn't it suck to beat a guy who isn't trying?
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiler flags
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:27:17 +0100
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS="-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686" to get fast
> executables. I was told that this might be to aggressive for some
> compiles, but I haven't had any problems so far compiling the whole
> system from scratch.
These opinions IMHO mainly derive from the fact that there actually
exist(ed) some gcc versions producing bad code for certain
optimizations. One even did it wrong for -O2.
No clue about Linux, but i compiled dozens of packages for SunOS/sparc
with both gcc-2.7.2.3 and gcc-2.95.2 - with the same level of optimization
like you. As i never had bad experiences, i *guess* Linux should even
make less problems (when i ever had problems with gcc, then the executable
didn't work at all; very system specific stuff like sysinfo(1)).
However, by intuition i wouldn't try to specialize for a
certain *architecture*. It might increase the probability for
errors more than the very few percents are worth it.
And it might not even run on another arch then.
If there's however bad code, then another optimization might
just 'trigger' it ;-)
Sven
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From: Andrew Rounds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bttv
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:08:15 +0000
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Andrew Rounds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anyone else had problems with their BT848 (Miro) TV card under
> > Mandrake 7.2? It worked perfectly on 7.1, but since my upgrade I get
> > sound from the card, but no video. I am at a complete loss how to work
> > out what the problem is and was hoping that someone has already solved
> > it and can point
>
> It's called "the kernel has changed".
>
> Peter
I know the kernel has changed, but I don't know that that is the cause of
the problem. That's why I asked if anyone else had solved it or
alternatively, if anyone could offer a suggestion as to how I can go about
working it out. I think I'm a bit more than a novice user, but this one has
got me stumped for now.
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: finding error messages
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:38:35 +0100
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some packages (X, for example) don't stop immediately after encountering
> a compile-error during "make" or "make World". You end up having a
> half-compiled program and the only way to find out what went wrong is
> wading through the logfiles.
First try just 'making' again. It should report the error again
- much faster this time. Hm, MIT-X11 (once on a non-Linux) might
be an exception... i don't know anymore.
One should report such 'delay', it's IMHO not acceptable - if another
make doesn't reveal the first error. (Yes, it's no workaround certainly.)
> Is there some pattern to grep for in a build-logfile that finds out what
> went wrong?
> "error" is a try, but it usally finds all the error-handling modules of
> the package as well. "Error" seems to be no better.
Refining the pattern as much as possible and using egrep(1) always
worked for me. A general pattern? I guess compiling big packages
is often too complicated anyway to care more about this.
Sven
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From: "Hello World" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:32:55 +0800
is that problem for starting apache with php and mysql or sth like that? u
may want to have a look at /etc/ld.so.conf (as in redhat)
"Conrad Drescher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:3a1d5539$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>
> does anybody know in which config-file the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
initialized?
> It appears when calling "env" as root running on SuSE 6.4. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> --
> Conrad
>
>
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:46:37 +0100
Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some programs require that their library path
> be added to it. QTDIR is an example
> Set it in ./etc/profile.local for a network environment, or
> /home/<user>/.bashrc for a user.
IMHO that's wrong behaviour. It should always be possible to fix
things by compiling in the 'run time path' (-Wl,-rpath,[...]).
LD_LIBRARY_PATH has the _highest priority. If things ever get confused
by 'incompatible' path components, it would get very hard to
fix things. However, if the run time path is ever wrong, then you can
still use LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
If you have to use it anyway, better write a wrapper for the binary
(or package) so that you don't need to add it to your environment.
Another advantage is that _all users can use binaries with run time
path automatically.
If you install all libraries in /usr/local/lib or alike, then you
won't have these problems anyway - but version problems in turn :-)
To avoid the latter i install every package in it's own sub hierarchy
(no version problems at all, just a soft link from a common bin/ dir).
I have excellent experiences without using LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all.
Yes, unfortunately one often has to fix the Imake-/Makefiles for this.
Sven
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Subject: Re: Netscape & cable 'net access?
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:51:21 GMT
asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is anybody using this combination, specifically @home?
yep :)
> It browses fine, but even though I've entered 'mail' for both Pop3 and
> SMTP (and 'news' for the newsgroups), it keeps saying it can't find the
> server 'mail'. ...
Call your provider and ask about the full name of the mail
and news servers.
--
Minko
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From: "Kilian A. Foth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please confirm suspicion about fbset
Date: 24 Nov 2000 08:02:42 GMT
Running a 2.2.16 Linux, I can boot into graphics mode by saying
vga=791 just fine. However, every attempt to change that mode later
runs into a laconic
ioctl FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: invalid argument
no matter what, even if I try to re-enable the current mode.
>From previous enquiries and the answers to them I have pieced together
this reason: fbset understands only about the VESA 2.0 modes, but
since the VESA BIOS is a real-mode app, it cannot be used when running
Linux proper, only while booting. IOW, fbset is essentially unusable
at the command line. True or false?
--
File not found. Should I fake it (Y/N)?
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From: "Sid Trewin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:13:47 -0000
Hi
I'm a novice also. With a Windows/DOS mindset. I tried a few distributions
with varying degrees of bewilderment. Settled finally on Mandrake 7.1 which
seems to give me the degree of initial familiarity i need, its not totally
obscure, and superficially quite close to windows with the KDE desktop. It
came on a Cover CD.
What to do with Linux? As others say - dont use it to run native Windows
applications - use Windows.
I use it for file-serving on an old machine, for learning(about mirroring,
RAID), to run a few unix applications which are accessed from the Windows
machine via an Xterminal, generally as a fun toy with future potential.
Have Fun
Sid
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