Linux-Misc Digest #387, Volume #25 Tue, 8 Aug 00 22:13:02 EDT
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Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Bob Hauck)
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Jerry L Kreps)
What could be causing this: Kernel panic (Goni Sarakinov)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:54:57 -0700
Phillip Lord wrote:
>
> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> blowfish> Then, the natives in E. Timor got tired of being ruled by
> blowfish> "outsider.", and tired of the Chinese-Indosians
> blowfish> controlling much of the economy. They rebelled.
> >> I don't think that it was a question of rebellion. The Indonesia
> >> army invaded E.Timor. This would be about 28 years ago now, about
> >> 2 years after Suharto came to power in E.Timor. And funnily
> >> enough about 8 hours after Gerald Ford's plane left the tarmac on
> >> Jakarta, on the first official visit to Indonesia since Suharto.
> >>
> blowfish> My Indonesian friend who told me the story is sixty some
> blowfish> years old. Her family witnessed the whole thing.
>
> Really.
>
Yeah. She's now a grandmother. :-)
> Of course whether its was an invasion or a rebellion is a
> secondary issue really. It appears that at least a third of the
> population was massacred by the army. There are many reports of the
> grossest atrocities, from rape, and murder, to enforced and uniformed
> use of long term contraception. E.Timor was the site of one of the
> worst crimes against humanity, in a century full of them. Unlike
> Vietnam we hardly heard anything about it however, because it was
> supported by the US and the UK, rather than Eastern bloc as was.
>
Any war is no good. I'm a pacifist.;-)
No. It was major news all over the world, except maybe in the US.
That's why I don't watch much news from US sources, including CNN.
If you can understand more than one language, then watch the
international channel. There's also a very good tv news coming out from
the U.K. Which has nothing but international news, and presented in
English. Lots of coverages that you won't find from major US networks.
The problem with US based networks are they're too US centric, and waste
too much yime and resources in covering stupid things like sports.
> blowfish> There are lots of reasons why all these invasions are
> blowfish> taken place. I guess it's part of human nature, the greed
> blowfish> factor, or some hugh power ego trip.
>
> Or alternative its inherent with in the system of government
> and economics that we live under. ("Come and see the oppression
> inherent within the system"). In the past we argued that a King was
> necessary because its was part of god's design. I think that a retreat
> to human nature is the same argument and just as wrong.
>
It's all up to the people.
As they voted to keep Elizabeth Windsor II to remains as the Queen of
the U.K. some years back.
> >> To argue that the arms trade, or indeed most "business" is
> >> separate from politics, and worse still morality is something
> >> that I feel is profoundly wrong.
> >>
> blowfish> Trades of any kind and politics always goes hand in hand.
>
> blowfish> Morality is entirly a seperate issue.
>
> Morality is separate from politics? This probably explains
> a lot.
>
Reality is harsh. Very harsh indeed. ;-)
> Phil
>
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:56:37 -0700
Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> > Free market means just that: The Freedom to Trade with who ever and
> > whatever (within legal limits) you want.
> Does it? I think that's what usually called "Free Trade".
> "Free Market" means letting the interaction between people
> determine the price of goods.
>
It also means nothing to stop the seller to get the maximum amount of
profits they want, as long as the market can bears it.
> --
> Stefaan
> --
> Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules:
> The first ninety percent of the task takes ninety percent of
> the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent.
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:57:50 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > why should an idea be owned? can an idea be owned? sometimes not.
> > > e.g., mathematics cannot be patented or copyrighted. the square root
> > > of two is a concept free for anyone's taking -- yet it is created.
> >
> > Please re-read my posts carefully. I said when the idea had became a
> > tangible object/item. Then, that object, as based on the "once was only
> > an idea" can then be owned.
>
> Right, but a copy of that object is not that object itself!
Only after you have been smoking funny smoke. ;-)
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:00:00 -0700
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > >
> > > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > >
> > > > > The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
> > > > > truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
> > > > > them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).
> > > > >
> > > > If you are not the owner/creator of that object. Then, you have no right
> > > > to sell, modify or do anything with it without the owner/creator's
> > > > permission. Period.
> > >
> > > but an idea is *not* an object. period.
> > >
> > Agree.
> >
> > > why should an idea be owned? can an idea be owned? sometimes not.
> > > e.g., mathematics cannot be patented or copyrighted. the square root
> > > of two is a concept free for anyone's taking -- yet it is created.
> >
> > Please re-read my posts carefully. I said when the idea had became a
> > tangible object/item. Then, that object, as based on the "once was only
> > an idea" can then be owned.
>
> is software tangible? you cannot touch it. the disk or medium it
> came upon, yes. but the software itself, no. therefore, the answer
> to my first question is -- no, by definition of tangible.
>
> ideas like software differ from objects in that they have the copy
> property. you can copy and share an idea and not lose its intrisic
> utility. e.g., if i know how to solve a certain equation and explain
> to you how to solve it, i do not lose my ability. we both would have
> it.
>
> furthermore, ideas are often made *more* valuable by sharing. e.g.,
> if i know how to read and write english it helps to have many more
> people who also know how to read and write english since they will
> produce text in english for me to read.
>
> this is different from objects. if i loan you my car, i lose the use
> of the car for as long as you have it. you can copy the software on
> the cd-rom, but not the cd-rom in and of itself.
>
> because ideas act very differently from objects, i have a hard time
> seeing why the law should treat them the same. i don't understand why
> the government should try to artificially force it into the mold of a
> object when the closest they can come is a mercantilist patent or
> license rather than a capitalistic commodity.
>
> > An idea before being materialised cannot really be owned. I have to
> > agree on that. Even it's debatable to a certain extents. I'm not a
> > bonehead like some blind faith wroshipper of the GNU-GPL.
>
> ad hominem will get you no where. it's as worthless as your strawmen.
>
So is your idea of free everything.
Look at things from a non-geek's angle and you'll see things
differently.
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> sysengr
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:04:37 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > I said when the idea had became a tangible object/item. Then, that
> > object, as based on the "once was only an idea" can then be owned.
>
> > An idea before being materialised cannot really be owned. I have to agree
> > on that.
>
> If an idea cannot be owned, then embodying that idea into a tangible object
> that you own cannot be theft no matter what you do with that object or how
> you obtained the idea.
>
> If an object embodying an idea can be owned, then converting objects that
> you own into duplicates of such an object that you own cannot be theft, no
> matter what you do with those objects.
Okay.
Let's say:
Somebody stole your idea (of what you were going to contribute to
Debian/GNU-GPL-whatever. The same idea/codes that you got $25k as a
reward from the Finnish government.) and submitted it to Debian, whoever
ahead of you, but it's the same copy of what you've got; and now this
person got the $25k reward from the same Finnish govt., with a copy of
the codes that you wrote.
Now. How would you feel about that!?
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:09:35 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> > > As for the relevance part: just because a market is illegal doesn't
> > > make it not fit the definition of a free market.
> > >
> > > The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
> > > truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
> > > them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).
>
> > If you are not the owner/creator of that object. Then, you have no right
> > to sell, modify or do anything with it without the owner/creator's
> > permission. Period.
>
> Ah. The owner/creator of the OBJECT. But we're not talking about the
> OBJECT; we're talking about someone independently making a copy of the
> object. Entirely different.
>
An original Picaso painting by Picaso is a Picaso painting.
A copy is a *counterfeit* of the Picaso painting. If someone made a copy
of the same painting independently.
See the difference?
> > All I can say is: Take your arguement to a *real* business person, and
> > to court... ;-)
>
> I'm not talking about business here.
Time to skip topic again? I thought we're talking about free market,
free trade,free beer, free-free...????
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:12:11 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > So far, you're doing a real good job of showing that you can't stay on
> > > track. You keep changing subjects, and not addressing the original
> > > claim, which is that:
> > > "if you can't own it, you can't be stealing it right?"
>
> > To humanoids like you. You just take whatever your heart (or are you
> > powered by GNU-GPLed cpu?)
> > desires without ANY concerns about others, or anything. A totally
> > self-centered, SELFISHED, elitist, and obnoxious bunch of
> > mofo.foo.bar.humanoids.
>
> You're arguing with a number of people who have actually written
> software and donated it back to the community, and who might thereby
> know what they're talking about. Perhaps the same could be said for
> you, but I have my doubts.
I have donated to charities, and have done volunteer work for such
purpose. But like I've said before. My coding will scare people off,
even they work. I do Frankenstein style of codings. :-)
And no. I DONNOT believe in GNU-GPL, Free beer.
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:43:49 GMT
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:13:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> hauck[at]codem{dot}com wrote:
>> Isn't that amazing! You can't boot from a disk that has the MBR
>> zeroed out!
>
>But from what he's said that isn't the problem. The boot floppy does not
>have a zero MBR, the hard disk does. And it still won't boot from a
>floppy.
If the BIOS is set to boot from floppy, and the disk is a plain DOS
floppy, then I have never seen a case where it would not boot from the
floppy no matter what was up with the hard disk.
Note that by "plain DOS disk" I specifically do _not_ mean a DOS
or Windows "Install" disk, which might go looking for who-knows-what,
but a plain floppy formatted with "format a: /s", no autoexec.bat and
no config.sys. Then again, I use DR-DOS for this rather than MS-DOS,
so who knows, maybe MS has been helping us out again.
>> Not from a floppy either if you have a hard disk as the first
>> boot device in BIOS and aren't clever enough to change it.
>
>You know, maybe you should actually assume that most people trying to
>install Linux have enough intelligence to configure the BIOS.
I apologize for the tone. But, given some of the questions people ask,
I don't know that to be a good assumption.
He is correct that it is better to use DOS fdisk to set up DOS
partitions. He is incorrect that Linux fdisk is completely broken on
all disks > 8 GB.
>precisely the same thing happen to me when I installed Redhat on my PC,
>where I'd had Suse Linux with a 1.2 kernel running for six months or
>more.
Red Hat has had some bugs with the "Disk Druid" that caused problems
with partitioning, but that is not the standard fdisk, it is a Red Hat
thing. There have of course been bugs in fdisk too, but I haven't
heard of any recently. I have heard a lot of trouble with big IDE
disks in older machines though (I've had such trouble with NT).
>> >Please note that I know the explanation. You are completely wrong.
>> Yeah, yeah, "circular partitions".
>
>That makes a lot more sense to me than your suggestion that he's just
>too dumb to configure the BIOS to boot from a floppy.
If I am wrong, he should ignore me, report the bug to someone who
can do something about it, and get his 15 minutes of fame.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:14:40 -0500
On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Tim Palmer wrote:
>Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 31 Jul 2000 07:44:55 -0500,
>> Tim Palmer, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> brought forth the following words...:
>>
>>>Cap'n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'll admit I'm somewhat of a newbie to Mandrake Linux,
>>>>and this is probably a stupid question...but, I need the
>>>>answer.
>>>>
>>>>I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system in a dual boot with
>>>>Win98. My hard drive is in four partitions:
>>>>
>>>>Partition 1: Win98 system files (1.5 GB) - hdc1
>>>>Partition 2: Win98 programs (8 GB) - hdc2
>>>>Partition 3: Linux Swap (133 MB) - hdc6
>>>>Partition 4: Linux Native: Mandrake Distro (2.3 GB) - hdc7
>>>>
>>>>After I installed Mandrake and LILO, Linux is the first
>>>>boot option and loads Mandrake after 10 seconds,
>>>>unless I type Windows. I want to set it up so that Windows
>>>>boots after 10 seconds, unless I type Linux.
>>>>
>>>>What's the easiest way to change this in Mandrake? Or
>>>>if someone could point me to a Mandrake HOWTO Web link
>>>>for this, I would appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*** The Cap'n ****
>>>
>>>Eddit a text fial and recompial kernal.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Despite Tim's (poorly spelt) hyperbole, you can change the boot order in
>>one of 3 ways.
>>Edit /etc/lilo.conf to put the entry you want first in line and rerun lilo
>>Edit /etc/lilo.conf to add the line default=windows (or whatever the windows
>>entry is called) at the top of the file in the global variables section,
>> and rerun lilo.
>>Or IIRC using Drake, the mandrake config tool, you can do this, but I don't
>>use mandrake so I can't be sure there.
>>
>>Note that Tim was either incorrect, or simply lying about recompiling the
>>kernel.
>>
>
>One out of too aint bad. And you half to restart LILO. So mutch for never having to
>reboot.
Actually, you mean 'have', not 'half'. And, you don't *have* to reboot. You
can continue running until such time as you need to reboot: lightening, hardware
failure, or for grins. So you are zero out of two.
>
>>--
>>Jim Richardson
>> Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
>>WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
>> Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
>>
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From: Goni Sarakinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What could be causing this: Kernel panic
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:21:08 -0400
I am running Suse 6.4 (kernel 2.2.14 SMP) with LVM support on dual
450MHz system. This systems has an Adaptec 7895 built-in SCSI
controller.
Ever since I put 2.2.14 on this system, it has frozen for no apparent
reason and when I reboot, I usually get the following message:
...
INIT version 2.78 booting
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 03518942
current -> tss.cr3 = 001000, %cr3 = 0010100
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU: 1
EIP: 0010:[<c0106500>]
EFLAGS: 00010046
eax:00000080 ebx:cfffa000 ecx:cfffa000 edx:c025751c
esi:c02574a0 edi:00000000 ebp:00000000 esp:cfffbf80
ds:0018 es:0018 ss:0018
Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 1, stackpage=cfffb000)
Stack: 00000010 00000246 00000000 00000000 c023885c 00000000
00000000
00000000 c023887f 00000000 00000000 00000000 c023886c
00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 c010baa9 00000000 c0229500 0000000b
c02454e3 00000000
Call Trace: [<c010baa9>] [<c01172017>]
Code: 23 88 c2 88 51 03 8d 53 01 88 d0 e6 22 e4 23 88 c2 88 51 02
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
Sometimes I get the following after the kernel panic msg:
In swapper task - not in sync
Anybody have any idea what could be causing this? Should I look at using
the development kernels (this is not a production - yet)
I should also mention that the error appears on CPU 0 sometimes as well
as CPU 1.
Thanks.
Goni Sarakinov
Sarakinov Consulting, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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