Linux-Misc Digest #387, Volume #26 Sun, 26 Nov 00 02:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux terminal problems with SCO (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Grub set up? (Olaf Zaplinski)
Re: Getting back into Linux (Graham Wilson)
Re: none (Graham Wilson)
What is a "software USB modem"? ("Lam Dang")
standard output redirection question (Cevat Ustun)
Re: optimizing kernelbuild (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Multiple SCSI controller cards ("Scott M. Navarre")
Re: Multiple SCSI controller cards ("Scott M. Navarre")
Re: No space left on device with /var filesystem (Fung Wai Keung)
Re: RH7 kernel compile error ("Scott M. Navarre")
Re: standard output redirection question (Tim Hockin)
Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down (Chris Menzel)
Re: standard output redirection question (Cevat Ustun)
Re: users,groups,persmissions etc (Michael Merideth)
Re: suid ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Partitions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: bttv ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Netscape 6 ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Linux terminal problems with SCO
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:19:23 GMT
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:06:16 +0100, Olaf Zaplinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Does any body know how to get a linux native character terminal to
>> work properly with a SCO server ???
>> [...]
>
>did you try 'export TERM=ansi; telnet scobox.domain.org' ?
Yes. We run both SCO OSR5 and Linux and you need to ensure that
TERM is set to something valid on the SCO box and not "linux". Both
vt100 and ansi will work.
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: Olaf Zaplinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Grub set up?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:28:25 +0100
Philo wrote:
>
> i'm still having trouble setting up grub
>
> at the grub prompt i first entered:
> root (hd0,7)
>
> then at setup i've tried both (hd0)
> and (fd0)
>
> but neither way can i boot up
> i saw another post about having to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
> but i have no menu.lst
>
> obviously i need to read up on grub...but nothing i've found yet
> when i did a web search for grub leads me to a clear and informative
> discussion???
edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. My example:
timeout 4
default 0
title Linux 2.2.17
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz reboot=warm vga=0x317 video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr,pmipal
title Windows 98
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
Start grub and enter
grub> root (hd0,
Now press TAB several times. Grub will tell you what it sees. Example:
grub> root (hd0,
Possible partitions are:
Partition num: 0, Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83
Partition num: 4, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
Partition num: 5, Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83
Partition num: 6, Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83
Partition num: 7, Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83
Partition num: 8, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x83
grub> root (hd0,
Let's say '/' is on hd(0,0) (a.k.a. /dev/hda1). So config goes like this:
grub> install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 p
/boot/grub/menu.lst
You have to enter that after every kernel change (same as with lilo). So
it's a good idea to put it in menu.lst:
Title Grub-Reinstall
root hd(0,0)
install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst
pause
After all, don't forget to make hd(0,0) active (using fdisk)
Olaf
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From: Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting back into Linux
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:47:27 -0800
Martin wrote:
> I have Linux-Mandrake 7.1 installed on a 25 GB partition on my 30 GB hard
> drive. The Linux partition is on hda2 which contains hda5 (/), hda6 (/usr),
> hda7 (/root) and hda8 (swap).
> <chomp>
> Here's the point. yesterday, when I booted into
> Linux, a lot of messages were displayed, as normal, but the boot finished
> with
>
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:05
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:95
>
> I have another Linux installation on my SCSI disc, which I was about to
> decommision (sda - 4.3 GB, Linux is on sda2 - 2 GB), and I can boot into
> that from a boot floppy. Unfortunately, when I try:
>
> mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/new
>
> it says "/dev/hda6 is not a block device" (or similar).
>
> LILO has these options: linux failsafe windows windows2 floppy
>
> None of the non-Windows ones work.
>
If the other os is installed in the first 5 Gs of the hdd, the linux boot may
not be accessible due to the 1024 cylinder limit. I don't know much about it,
but I know it can be a problem. G.
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From: Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.development.system,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: none
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:49:06 -0800
nitin sharma wrote:
> i am extremely sorry for reposting the same querry on the forum. this is because i
>am unable to get the newsgroup site on my network. so kindly also copy the response
>to my mail account as in the abouve situation this is the only way the requested
>information can reach me. kindly bear with me.
> my querry was:
> i want to install the flavours of linux on my system.kindly specify the files i
>should download from the respective sights.
>
> linuxppc from http://download.sourceforge.net/mirrors/linuxppc/
>
> yellowdoglinux from
> ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdoglinux
>
> debianlinux from
>
> http://www.debian.org/
>
> how to install the operating system from the files downloaded from the sites.
>
> Chequemail.com - a free web based e-mail service that also pays!!!
> http://www.chequemail.com
Don't post to so many groups.
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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is a "software USB modem"?
Date: 25 Nov 2000 22:18:05 -0500
I just bought an AOpenFM56-USB modem for a
song at a local computer fair. Its describes
itself as an "external software USB modem."
Which software? Executed by which CPU?
Does this imply there are external hardware
USB modems?
I've got it to work with Windows 98. Windows
2000 complains about a bad parameter and
won't install it. I've tried a more recent
version from AOpen's Web site with the same
results. Any chance it may work with current
USB drivers on Linux?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
--
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com
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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: standard output redirection question
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:31:33 GMT
How does one log the output of a program to
a file and at the same time view it on the
screen?
Cev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: optimizing kernelbuild
Date: 25 Nov 2000 23:32:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dirk Groeneveld wrote:
> I recently recognized that "make bzImage" causes the kernel to be built
> with "-O2" setting. Could a "-O3" be harmful? Has anyone made any
> experiences trying to optimize the kernel that way?
"-O3" is the same as "-O2" plus the "-finline-functions" option. With
that option, the compiler is allowed to treat functions _not_ marked
"__inline__" as if they _were_ marked "__inline__". ("__inline__" asks
the compiler to integrate the function's code into the functions that
called it, eliminating the function call itself.)
However, the authors of the kernel have already thought about which
functions are worth inlining, and so "-O3" tells the compiler to
second-guess them. The result is almost certainly larger executable
code, which might (as a result) run slower.
It is probably safe to try it, though.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI controller cards
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:37:43 GMT
> It appears that Linux will support ONE AHA1740 in Enhanced Mode, but
> not two... You should either set one (or both) cards to 'Standard Mode'
> and use different IRQ's for the two cards...
Thank you very much for your suggestion.
I recently tried setting both cards to Standard mode, using the same
settings as they were configured (and working) on the SCO system.
However, I had read the source code 'aha1740.c' and apparently this driver
only works for these cards operating in Enhanced Mode.
I also read the Adaptec manual for the 1740 cards which explains why. It
said that "Standard Mode is an AHA-1540/1542 compatible interface that
allows the use of AHA-1540/1542 software drivers. Enhanced Mode is a higher
performance interface that uses AHA-1740 software drivers".
So, I tried setting both cards to Standard Mode and used the 'aha1542.o'
driver module invoked by the 'insmod' command and this is what I got:
scsi : 1 host.
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/scsi/aha1542.o : init_module: Device or resource busy
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including
invalid IO or IRQ parameters
Any other suggestions?
Thanks again,
Scott Navarre
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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI controller cards
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:42:24 GMT
One other note: The header comments at the top of 'aha1740.c' says
"Multiple adapter support"...
> It appears that Linux will support ONE AHA1740 in Enhanced Mode, but
> not two... You should either set one (or both) cards to 'Standard Mode'
> and use different IRQ's for the two cards...
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From: Fung Wai Keung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No space left on device with /var filesystem
Date: 26 Nov 2000 04:58:47 GMT
Hi all,
My problem is solved and I also updated my logrotate and sysklog packages.
Thank you very much for all your help.
However, my MandrakeUpdate only stuck on finding a list of mirror sites
when I run it. How to solve it?
Thanks in advance.
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: ]Fung Wai Keung wrote:
: ]>
: ]> Hi all,
: ]>
: ]> I am running Linux Mandrake 7.1. I sometimes encounter the "no space left
: ]> in device" error when I run some commands like
: ]>
: ]> root@acaepc53:/home/users/wkfung>rpm --rebuilddb
: ]> error creating directory /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.11932: No space left on
: ]> device
: ]>
: ]> or
: ]> [ I can't print anything]
: ]> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>lpr ~/.cshrc
: ]> lpr: cannot create /var/spool/lpd/lp/tfA119acaepc53.acae.cuhk.edu.hk
: ]> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>./lpd restart
: ]> Shutting down lpd: [ OK ]
: ]> Starting lpd: [ OK ]
: ]> touch: /var/lock/subsys/lpd: No space left on device
: ]> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>
: ]>
: ]> and so on. All involve the /var filesystem, saying that it has no
: ]> availabe space. However, I have more 160M available in /var, as reported
: ]> by df
: This is a bug in logrotate on Mandrake 7.1 It keeps making more and more
: and more ( twice as many every time logrotate is called ) in
: /var/log/mail and /var/log/news. They are all 0 length files, but they
: use up all the inodes, so no new files can be created. Erase all files
: in these directories, AND go to the Mandrake site and UPDATE logrotate.
: Really, you should be going there regularly ( use MandrakeUpdate or
: whatever) to keep your system updated. Next time it will be some cracker
: who has erased all your files because you left buggy security features
: unfixed.
--
Regards,
Wai Keung, Fung
Department of Automation and Computer Aided Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong
Tel: (852)26098056 Fax: (852)26036002
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 kernel compile error
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:20:45 GMT
I get the same exact error when doing a 'make bzImage' with RH7.0 on a
single CPU system with SMP support turned off.
The funny thing is that when I turn SMP support on and do a 'make
bzImage', it makes it all the way through without that error. But I don't
think that it is good to have SMP support on a machine with only a single
CPU...
Any other ideas on this?
> > It's a clean install on a new machine, and I've done 'make dep' and
'make clean',
> > seemingly without a hitch. Below is what I'm getting when I 'make
bzImage' in /usr/src/linux:
> >
> > In file included from ksyms.c:17:
> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared
(first use in this function)
>
> I did not check the source now, however, do you compile for SMP?
>
> I assume your kernel will run on a single CPU machine.
>
> Go and check for the SMP support. Just tick it off. This _might_ solve
>
> the problem. The SMP support question appears right in the beginning of
the
>
> kernel configuration.
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: standard output redirection question
Date: 26 Nov 2000 05:29:08 GMT
Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How does one log the output of a program to
: a file and at the same time view it on the
: screen?
command | tee file
--
Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
ZZ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Menzel)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down
Date: 26 Nov 2000 05:28:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just upgraded from Mandrake 7.0 to to 7.2. Most everything is running fine
(though it took *way* too much time and expertise to get it all going),
except for one thing: it will not complete a shutdown. After shutting
down processes it generates the message "INIT: No more processes in this
runlevel" at which point the machine just sits there. I don't want to
say the box is hung, because when I hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete the disk gets
hit with something. The kernel *seems* to be waiting for something to
timeout, but I've gone off to eat dinner while the wait was on, and the
box was still immobilized when I returned. Moreoever, I have tried
booting into linux single mode to see if it would happen with just a
minimal set of drivers loaded. Sure enough, it still did.
Any suggestions as to the cause of this behavior, and especially advice
on how to track it down, would be greatly appreciated.
-Chris Menzel
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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: standard output redirection question
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:57:11 GMT
Thank you.
Cev.
Thank yTim Hockin wrote:
>
> Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : How does one log the output of a program to
> : a file and at the same time view it on the
> : screen?
>
> command | tee file
>
> --
> Tim Hockin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
> ZZ
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From: Michael Merideth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: users,groups,persmissions etc
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:05:10 GMT
FWIW, new group membership does not apply to a user's current session. =
Could be that the user in question logged out and then back in again=20
between the failure and the success.
Hope this sheds some light,
Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 11/20/00, 10:42:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re:=20
users,groups,persmissions etc:
> Ack! Nevermind! I's working...... not sure exactly how???? (Don't you
> just love computers?)
> Thanks anyway,
> Cindy
> In article <8vbgg4$ec2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Zip wrote:
> > ...
> > > Work groups are people with common access needs. For instance
> > > all web authors that need permission to modify the company web
> > > site's contents. You can create a group "web", add all web author=
s
> > > to it, and make files in your website document root rw by group.
> >
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > I saw this posting about using groups and I hope you can help me.
> >
> > I've been a part time sys admin for 10 years but I've never really
> > needed to use groups before.
> > I now do have a use for a group and I am having trouble getting it t=
o
> > work. I've created a directory that I want a number of users to be
> able
> > to write to. We are using it as a 'data repository' for a project we=
> are
> > all working on.
> >
> > Having used Linuxconf to set up my users, each user has their own
> group.
> > I remember when I first started using Linux, the instructions said t=
o
> do
> > this. I think I understood it then and your message talks about it
> more.
> > Anyway what I'm trying to do should work, I think but I must be
> > doing something wrong.
> >
> > First off, I'm running RH6.1 on a Dell 700MHz machine.
> > I created a group and put all the users I want to have access to the=
> > directory in the group. Here's the line from /etc/group:
> >
> > momax::500:kmb,jdoutt,howitt,lsouza,root
> >
> > Then I set up permissions for the directory as follows:
> >
> > drwxrwxr-x 2 lsouza momax 4096 Nov 20 09:21 ./
> > drwxrwxr-x 4 root momax 4096 Nov 20 09:21 ../
> >
> > Typing 'groups' for any of the users tells me the group file is set =
up
> > ok:
> > /mnt/data/MOMAX>groups lsouza
> > lsouza : lsouza momax
> >
> > /mnt/data/MOMAX>groups howitt
> > howitt : howitt momax
> >
> > But when user 'howitt' tries to 'touch ./try' they get 'permission
> > denied'.
> >
> > What am I missing?
> > I have tried:
> > adding 'root' (who was the owner of the dir)to the group
> > creating a users 'momax' and making that the owner
> >
> > I can think of ways around this problem (there are no other users on=
> > this machine so I could just make it world writable, for instance)
> > but it should work!
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Cindy
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Cynthia Sellers/Research Associate
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mail Stop #11/Bigelow 210
> > Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
> > Woods Hole, MA 02543
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suid
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:23:16 GMT
John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Wayne Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> > I wanted to allow non-privileged users to do execute a script that would
:> > normally require su access (for example "touch /bin/something"), so I
:> > did "chmod +s script", however when script is executed, its body still
:> > reports "permission denied".
:> Don't do this!! It is *extremely* dangerous!!! NEVER have a suid
:> shell script!
:> The safe alternative is to use the "sudo" command.
: Exactly why is this dangerous? Just wondering.
Do you also wonder why it's dangerous to run apache as root instead of
nobody? Are there whole hosts of things like this that you wonder
about, or is it just this? Perhaps you wonder if suid is dangerous in
general? Or if it's the combination "suid + script" that is dangerous?
Perhaps you wonder if scripts are specially weak against buffer
overflows and the like?
Well, the answers to all those questions are in the FAQ. The linux FAQ,
the unix FAQ.
/usr/doc/faq/Linux-FAQ/Linux-FAQ
/usr/doc/faq/Linux-FAQ/README
6.3 Setuid scripts don't seem to work.
That's right. This feature has been disabled in the Linux kernel on
purpose, because setuid scripts are almost always a security hole.
Sudo and SuidPerl can provide more security that setuid scripts or
binaries, especially if execute permissions are limited to a certain
user ID or group ID.
If you want to know why setuid scripts are a security hole, read the
FAQ for comp.unix.questions.
Don't you wonder what other answers to your wonderings are in there?
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:23:15 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I have a measley 6Gig hard drive and I am attempting to install Linux as
: well as continue to run Win98. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas,
2GB should be about as much as you need for linux. 1GB should be fine
too (I am using 80MB, right now).
: such as installing a new hard drive on Win98 and then installing Linux on
: that hard drive??? Any suggestions are welcome.
What are you talking about!
Yes you can do that. It'll only cost you money.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bttv
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:23:12 GMT
Andrew Rounds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Peter T. Breuer wrote:
:> Andrew Rounds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> > Has anyone else had problems with their BT848 (Miro) TV card under
:> > Mandrake 7.2? It worked perfectly on 7.1, but since my upgrade I get
:> > sound from the card, but no video. I am at a complete loss how to work
:> > out what the problem is and was hoping that someone has already solved
:> > it and can point
:>
:> It's called "the kernel has changed".
: I know the kernel has changed, but I don't know that that is the cause of
: the problem. That's why I asked if anyone else had solved it or
But nothing else can be the cause of the problem IF THE SAME DRIVERS
ARE LOADED.
Are they?
: alternatively, if anyone could offer a suggestion as to how I can go about
: working it out. I think I'm a bit more than a novice user, but this one has
: got me stumped for now.
But I already told you. Unchange your kernel.
If the problem persists then you have eliminated the kernel (and its
modules) as the source of the problem and you go on to try unchanging
the application(s) you are using and/or possibly the module loading
system.
Here's what you need loaded for a working picture:
tuner 1 1
bttv 7 1 (autoclean)
i2c 1 [tuner bttv] 2 (autoclean)
videodev 1 [bttv] 2 (autoclean)
That's under 2.0.36. Sorry, but I'm watching TV and can't reboot into
2.2 to tell you what it looks like there. Oh ... yes I can.
bttv 34704 0 (unused)
videodev 2252 2 [bttv]
tuner 2156 1
i2c 3104 2 [bttv tuner]
Surprise surprise. Kernel 2.2.15. Now you try.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:23:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Frankly, I wouldn't call this latest version an improvement. It's so
: slow at loading. I thought 4.7x was slow. This is slower. I will opt
: for IE anytime.
Are you sure you tried it? Out of curiousity I dowloaded mozilla build
M18 two days ago and the first thing I noticed was how _fast_ it loads
compared to netscape 4.75.
4.75 probably takes about 10s to come up on my P2450 with 128MB ram.
mozilla M18 is practically instantaneous.
4.75 does some kind of dns search after starting up that takes it a
minute (the problem appears to be a netscape bug that means it doesn't
know that hostnames without a domain part are "local", so it tries
to go to my squid cache for them, even though it shouldn't, etc. etc. ).
Mozilla seems to have no such problem.
I may try one of the nightly builds.
Peter
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