Linux-Misc Digest #387, Volume #18               Mon, 28 Dec 98 22:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! ("eb")
  Re: ATT Worldnet Connectivity (Michael Kelly)
  Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's (Ben Russo)
  longname on fat 16 disk (Ceccarini)
  Re: bash error message (Mike Detlefsen)
  Re: smtp and fetchmail (Ruffian)
  Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?) (Richard Steiner)
  Re: SuSE or RedHat (Bud Rogers)
  Strange error, computer hangup !? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can't run root.sh after install Oracle (Martin Beier)
  Re: What good is a cluster ? (Simon Kinahan)
  Netscape 4.5 for Nwsreading ? (cglur)
  PCMCIA on RH 5.2 (han)
  Re: LS-120 SuperDisk (garv)
  Re: LS-120 SuperDisk (garv)
  Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Memory Problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: good office package for linux ("Peter T. Caffin")
  Are there any Ljet non-gs drivers? (Tim Holmes)
  Re: The goal of Open Source (steve mcadams)
  Re: Infringement of the GPL (steve mcadams)
  Re: command who produces a core dump! (Bjarne Nygaard)
  Re: Cloning Linux Systems ("J�rgen Exner")
  Re: PCMCIA on RH 5.2 (Kyle Dansie)
  Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?) (Philip Brown)
  Linux (Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2) Y2K compliance (Matt Harrell)
  Re: Pronounce Linux L-eye-nux or Lin-ux?

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From: "eb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:21:58 -0700

> People brag and shout how wonderfull and powerfull UNIX is, yet when it
> comes to a common task such as this, it failes on its face, becuase no
> one wants to write a simple GUI tool to automate this task once and for
> all. (no, I am not going to write this tool, becuase I am not the
> one who is screeming how wonderfull Linux is).


Hmmmmm, jeez, I think it takes all of 5 minutes to set up an internet
connection with linuxconf.  BTW, the reason it is so difficult to set up ppp
scripts on linux and solaris, is to keep obnoxious pr*cks like you from
applying for jobs where you might come into contact with a real computer
system and break something.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: ATT Worldnet Connectivity
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:44:00 -0500

On 28 Dec 1998 00:24:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:

>
>Casey R. Adkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Q. Has anyone connected to ATT Worldnet via linux (i.e. EXPECT 
>>script)specifically using kppp?

No but in case it's helpful generally, on their web page under Support there was
a sample script for Linux that you could use and other info how to set up for
authentication etc..

The main tricky thing with Worldnet as I remember was that the login password is
not the same as you email password.  You have to look in the ini file of their browser
to get your login password.  It (at least used to when I was on there) has a bunch of
symbols mixed in with the characters as a security I guess.  That's what you use
in your chap-secrets file as password.

Good luck. :)


Mike

"Genius gives birth, talent delivers."

                - Jack Kerouac

(remove NOSPAM from address, if present, to reply)

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:16:13 -0500

"Ken C. Moellman Jr." wrote:

> --
>
> I was given an IBM 386sx16.  It uses Microchannel Archetecture.  I had
> wanted to use this box for ipfwadm and such.  Any chance this will work
> for me?  I've heard linux just barely has support for MicroChannel
> Archetecture (which normally wouldn't be an issue, since microchannel is
> dead).
>
> thanks,
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.

You might be able to get the MCA stuff working, but I don't think you can
use a
386sx.   I'm pretty sure you must have a DX.

Linux requires the 32 bit 386 DX..


-Ben.


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From: Ceccarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: longname on fat 16 disk
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:13:23 +0000

I have a System dual boot Linux (RH 5.0) and NT SRV 4.0 spk3, I have
some partitions in which I can access with either systems but the long
name files can't be read by my linux system. I don't even know if I have
Vfat running on Linux. How can I check, if I have to load a Vfat which
version should I use.

Thanks

Stephen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Detlefsen)
Subject: Re: bash error message
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:02:31 -0600

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look in /etc/profile.

Yup. That was it. Thanks to everyone.





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From: Ruffian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: smtp and fetchmail
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:18:13 +0000

Dustin Puryear wrote:
> 
> I am trying to setup fetchmail to.. well, to fetch my mail. Anyway, I am
> getting the error "SMTP connect to localhost failed: Unknown error -1".
> I read the FAQ for fetchmail and it mentioned I needed to try telneting
> to port 25 of localhost. The connection was refused. I assume I haven't
> properly setup mail for my system.
> 
> Now, I am not really sure what I need to do. Do I need to setup some
> type of SMTP server on my system? If there is a HOW-TO that directly
> addresses this, please advise.
> 
> BTW, here is the complete output:
> > 
> Regards, Dustin
> 
If you gave your computer a name, say, XEON 1GIG L2CACHE, for the
sake of example and didn't make the change in the "hosts" file
from "localhost     localhost.localdomain"   to
"XEON 1GIG L2CACHE     XEON 1GIG L2CACHE.localdomain"  there's
one reason you'll get that

Ask me how I know *g*

see you
Jan

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:39:38 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <zmAh2.2159$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >In article <766d1l$22g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Sergei Gerasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I've been working on this problem for 4 days already. I've had three nights
> >>when I went to bed at 8 a.m.! Here is the problem. I bought a RedHat
> 
> You could have bought an NT, and in 5 minutes had this done, (without
> reading a single HOWTO) and spend the rest of your time actually using
> the PC instead.
> 
> This is a typical Unix junk that we have to live with. If you think
> setting up a PPP on Linux is hard, try it on Solaris. May be there in 2 weeks
> you'll get it working (assuming you'll skip sleeping).
> 

*We* ???
Rock in your pocket?
*junk* ??
You don't sound very knowledgable about Linux.

As a Linux newbie I setup my ISP in 2-3 minues the first time I tried. 
Kpp is an icon on my KDE desktop and fires with a click, everytime,
without long delays that Win95 gives me.  And, both Kfm and Netscape
browse the web without slowing down.  Ftp downloads don't get slowed
down by all that "friendly" help which ends up marking a file as not
downloadable because *it* couldn't figure out how to do it.  That's why
I blew Internet Exploder off my workstation and put Netscape on. 
Reliability and speed.
That's why I switched to Linux.  The low cost was a bonus, but I'd
switch anyway for the speed and stability.
> People brag and shout how wonderfull and powerfull UNIX is, yet when it
> comes to a common task such as this, it failes on its face, becuase no
> one wants to write a simple GUI tool to automate this task once and for
> all. (no, I am not going to write this tool, becuase I am not the
> one who is screeming how wonderfull Linux is).

Other people continue paying through the nose for the priviledge to beta
test the junk M$ puts out.  It amazes me they never catch on.  That's
why Gates is a billionair and Windows recovery software is a big seller.

> Erick.
The M$ troll

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:48:21 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wildman, the Cuberstalker)
spake unto us, saying:

>Well, a null-modem connection is as fast as the machines involved can
>handle, so it isn't speed that would be an issue. The lack of TCP/IP on
>which to run the FTP would be the problem.

A null-modem cable will be an order of magnitude slower (or more) than
a real ethernet connection, particularly a 100BaseT connection.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
       OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
        WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
         Hit <ALT-H> to take IQ test or <CTRL><ALT><DEL> to skip

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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE or RedHat
Date: 28 Dec 1998 07:32:38 -0600

Zulfiqar Naushad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Both support the RPM package format.

Are there any compatibility issues installing RH packages on a SuSE system?

-- 

Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
have linux, will telnet

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Strange error, computer hangup !?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:09:37 GMT

I'm running S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3, kernel 2.0.35. The machine hanged up and after
reboot I found this in /var/log/messages :


 kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c86fddb0
 kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0685f000, Xr3 = 0685f000
 kernel: *pde = 00000000
 kernel: Oops: 0002
 kernel: CPU:    0
 kernel: EIP:    0010:[rs_interrupt_single+119/940]
 kernel: EFLAGS: 00013086
 kernel: eax: 00000021   ebx: 0009ebf8   ecx: 086fddb0   edx: 000003fd
 kernel: esi: 00209bf8   edi: 00000004   ebp: 00000000   esp: 0377ff8c
 kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss: 0018
 kernel: Process X (pid: 22719, process nr: 15, stackpage=0377f000)
 kernel: Stack: 00000018 00000021 20000000 00000004 bffff95c 00117c78 0377ffb0
002228d0
 kernel:        00000000 36768103 0010ca65 00000004 00000000 00000000 08689118
08680934
 kernel:        0000047f 0010bc57 00000004 086fddb0 086fda30 086fda30 0000002b
0000002b
 kernel: Call Trace: [sys_gettimeofday+44/112] [do_fast_IRQ+41/72]
[fast_IRQ4_interrupt+59/96]
 kernel: Code: 08 89 c2 ec 88 c1 8b 54 24 20 89 54 24 10 85 56 24 74 12 47


Why? What does this all mean? Where should I search for the problem?

thanks, rems


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From: Martin Beier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't run root.sh after install Oracle
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:09:46 GMT

Sanh Tran wrote:

> After I installed Oracle 8.0.5 on Redhat 5.2, I tried to
> run the "root.sh" as "root" (from $ORACLE_HOME/orainst)
> but it keep telling me :
>
> ":No such file or directory"
>
> The "root.sh"   is there and so is the correct permission
> (_rwxr-wr-x  1 oracle   dba    root.sh ). Any clue? HELP??
>
> Thanks

 The first line of the script should contain something like

#!/bin/sh

or just

#

If you want to debug a script, you may add

set -x

as first line.

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From: Simon Kinahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What good is a cluster ?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:09:48 GMT

Thomas Horan wrote:
> I am not expecting to create a beowulf cluster to run a quake server but
> what can ou do with a cluster ???

Huge numerical doohickeys. Finite element analysis. Working out where the
stars will be in 2000000 years time. Big cellular automata. Calculating
fractal pictures for posters. Weather prediciton. 3D rendering (not real
time). Traffic flow analysis. 

Simon

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From: cglur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.5 for Nwsreading ?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:09:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,
   I find netscape 4.5 (under Linux) very difficult to understand,
after having used earlier netscapes (under M$ W3.1). Perhaps it's
just trying to do TOO MUCH ?
 
My initial questions refer to 'Communicator" for News-reading.

Answers to any of the following whould be appreciated (and direct
e-mail since reading news group is difficult for me) :-

* how do I delete newsgroup mesgs. - header or full (with body) ?
* can I mark headers off-line, to get their bodies when I later go
     on-line ?
* for newsgroups; what are the 2 fields to the between the "date" 
   and the "status" field ?
    They are 'labeled' with a diamond and a flag icon.
* when I try the click sequence: Edit -> Cancel mesg (Alt+D);
  the current mesg (on my system) is NOT cancelled, but rather
  netscape tries to go on line ?!   Why ??

 Thanks, Chris.


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From: han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: PCMCIA on RH 5.2
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:26:33 +0100

I ame new to linux.

How can make my modem work.
It is a PCMCIA PSION 56K modem and I work on A dell Inspiron 7000

For tyhe moment I have only acces to net through my windows98 enviroment, AN I don't
like it !!!





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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LS-120 SuperDisk
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:34:56 GMT

Rick Knebel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if the LS-120 SuperDisc is supported in Linux.
> This would be an internal ide model?
>
> T

I am using a DR (Mitsubishi) ls-120 with RH5.2. Works fine, BUT this is
my SECOND
drive. 1st (Matsushita) died in less than 6 months operation.

How about a Sony Hi-FD 200 MB?


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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LS-120 SuperDisk
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:36:18 GMT

Rick Knebel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if the LS-120 SuperDisc is supported in Linux.

Forgot to add:  No compile necessary with RH5.2.


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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:43:24 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have also similar problem with red hat 5.2.
> When I login as non root, ie. some user, and dialout, the connection
> failes with some PAM error (authentican failed?). but when I login as
> root, and dial out (everything else the same), the connection stays up.
. 
Does the pppd have suid permission for the users to use it?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Memory Problems
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:24:07 GMT

Hi, I have a PC with a Pentium II processor and 128 Mb of RAM. 
Unfortunately, Linux is only recognizing 64 Mb of RAM.  I'm running
Slackware's 2.0.34 kernel.  I know that I have 128 Mb of RAM because when I
boot up, the machine "counts" to 131072 Kb.  I believe that it is only seeing
64 Mb because typing "free" gives me:

                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:         64060      60904       3156      40260       1732      18540
    -/+ buffers/cache:      40632      23428
    Swap:       130748       6324     124424

Also, typing "dmesg" gives me:

    Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
    Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
    pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fae80
    pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb300
    pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb330
    Probing PCI hardware.
    Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 349.80 BogoMIPS
*** Memory: 64060k/66496k available (764k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1288k
data)
    Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
    NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
    Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
    IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP
    VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
    Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
    Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
    Linux version 2.0.34 (root@darkstar) (gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515
(egcs-1.0.3 release)) #1 Thu Jun 4 18:59:35 PDT 1998
    Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
    Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
    tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
    tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
    Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
    Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
    ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
        ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
        ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
    hda: ST34321A, 4103MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=523/255/63, UDMA
    hdb: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM 32X, ATAPI CDROM drive
    ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
    Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
    FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
    md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
    linear personality registered
    raid0 personality registered
    Partition check:
     hda:hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
    hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
     hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
    VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
    Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
    hdb: media changed
    VFS: Disk change detected on device 03:40
    Max size:15809   Log zone size:2048
    First datazone:20   Root inode number 40960
    lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
    CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
    SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256).
    PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
    PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
    PPP line discipline registered.
    tulip.c:v0.89F 5/12/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    eth0: NETGEAR NGMC169 MAC at 0xd400, 00 a0 cc 39 74 02, IRQ 9.
    eth0:  MII transceiver found at MDIO address 1, config 1000 status 782d.
    eth0:  Advertising 01e1 on PHY 1, previously advertising 01e1.
    PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
    Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.0
      kernel build: 2.0.34 #2 Thu Jun 4 22:27:11 PDT 1998
      options:  [cardbus]
    Intel PCIC probe: not found.
    Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found.
    eth0: CSR5 is 02000112.
    eth0: Changing NGMC169 configuration to half-duplex, CSR6 816e0000.
    iBCS: socksys registered on character major 30
    registered device ppp0


This is actually quite strange, because it seems to be seeing 66496 Kb (not
65536 Kb which is 64 Mb) which is more than 64Mb.

Anyway, if anyone has any insight into this, please let me know.  Also, if you
could copy the response to my email, I would really appreciate it, because I
don't always have access to news.

Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greg Campbell

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From: "Peter T. Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: good office package for linux
Date: 29 Dec 1998 02:28:05 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Christian Huebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> David wrote:
>> Applixware is a great office suite.  The recommend 32M.
>> Thomas F. Ewald wrote in message
>> <01be2d20$90bf1d80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Applixware is not quite my favourite. Try Star Office.

I haven't tried Applixware yet. Next priority :).

> Its free for personal use and it can fully replace M$ Office.
> It also is much more reliable than M$ Office

The 'minimum' RAM required for Star Office 5.0 is 32M (I've tried 16M with
swap.. forget it) but it apparently likes 48M and up.

Word Perfect 8 is running nicely on this machine with 16M, however, it
doesn't have the full quota of utilities, file filters, etc. It's great as
a general word processor tho :).

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From: Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Are there any Ljet non-gs drivers?
Date: 28 Dec 1998 17:33:26 GMT


Just wondering if anyone has written any real
Laserjet drivers for Linux.  I mean ones that
don't convert to Postscript first, but use
HP PCL directly to the printer.

I have not seen anything but ghostscript converted
drivers for any printer.

Tim Holmes


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: The goal of Open Source
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:18 GMT

On 27 Dec 1998 19:41:25 -0500, David Steuber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  By making it open source, without necessarily releasing
>control of it, programmers can have others do their debugging for
>them.

How do you make it "open source" without necessarily releasing control
of it?  I admit to being inexpert at the "open source" concept but
this sounds like a contradiction. 

About the only thing I've concluded so far is that the philosophy
expressed by Richard Stallman is diametrically opposed to my concept
of freedom.  I don't know that his is the only view of "open source",
but it could be for all I do know.   -steve
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Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:23 GMT

On 28 Dec 1998 23:35:38 +1100, Zoltan Kocsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"Writing GPL'd SW works for individuals because it makes them feel good
>and works for the society because it gains common ownership of the
>GPL'd SW and thus does not depend on the mercy of an individual or
>organisation in regards to the named SW." 

That's a legitimate way to see it I suppose.  Though it doesn't make
me feel good to work an extra 50 hours a week and then give the
results away, it may ring some peoples' chimes.  -steve
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From: Bjarne Nygaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: command who produces a core dump!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:47:15 +0100

Steve wrote:

> Evan Panagiotopoulos wrote:
>
> > Hello to all,
> > every time the command who is used the user gets a hefty in size core
> > dump.  Does this mean that who got corrupted? What do I do now? I only
> > have one Linux machine!
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Evan Panagiotopoulos
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >   Evan Panagiotopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Computer Teacher
> >   Valley Central High School
> >   Mathematics Department
> >
> >   Evan Panagiotopoulos
> >   Computer Teacher            <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Valley Central High School  HTML Mail
> >   Mathematics Department
> >                               Fax: (914) 457-4056
> >                               Home: Home Sweet Home
> >                               Work: Valley Central High School (914) 457-3122
> >   Additional Information:
> >   Last Name Panagiotopoulos
> >   First NameEvan
> >   Version   2.1
>
> I've seen this on RH 5.0, kernel 2.0.33 systems. it is a known bug and I think
> there is
> a fix at the RH web site.
>
> Steve

Hello...

It is NOT a bug that core is dumped. -It is a standard UNIX feature. :)

As Linux is booting a shell variable is set to enable coredump or not.

Try 'ulimit -c 0' (using bash) if you don't like coredumps from time to time.

Cu

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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Systems
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:16:22 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<768rtm$689$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi all,
>
>I am having a problem in cloning a Linux installation to other computers.
I
>have set up a system and configured it "Just right" and now want to
duplicate
>this on other boxes.  I am using the DOS based program "ghost" from
Symantec
>to get a copy of this image.  When I try to clone this image to another
>computer that has different hard drive parameters, LILO chokes and dies and
>the only thing that it shows before it hangs is:
>
>LI


This is not very surprising. The physical position of the kernel on the HD
is hard coded in the MBR. If you are using different disk configurations
then the position of the kernel will be different.

You must boot by other means (e.g. using a simple boot floppy, only basic
drivers are required) for the first time and then run /sbin/lilo to get the
right information about the physical location of the kernel on this drive
into the MBR.

>The cursor will sit there and blink and the system is completely frozen.
Is
>there any way that I can get around using a different size hard drive with
a
>different geometry for the target system?
>
>Is there any other way to do this?  I have thought about using the "dd"
>command, but that brings up two other problems.


"dd" would be the obvious way to create a disk copy, although it will not
solve your problem with the wrong information in the MBR. However having a
tiny mini-Linux up and running for the copy process you can automatically
run a "/sbin/lilo", too.

>1.) I have to have working Linux system to use it.


True, but a primitive boot/root floppy will do already.

>2.) If there are errors on the target hard drive, the "dd" won't know about
>this.


Depends what you mean with errors. If you refer to bad blocks, then
- if the HD knows about them, they will be hidden by the firmware already
- if the HD does not know about them, then "ghost" won't know about them
either.

So in either case there no difference between using ghost or dd.

jue
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:17:11 -0700
From: Kyle Dansie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PCMCIA on RH 5.2

han wrote:
> 
> I ame new to linux.
> 
> How can make my modem work.
> It is a PCMCIA PSION 56K modem and I work on A dell Inspiron 7000
> 
> For tyhe moment I have only acces to net through my windows98 enviroment, AN I don't
> like it !!!

http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Dec 1998 00:13:37 GMT

On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:36:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    See the subject for my crazy idea.  I was pondering installation
>under difficult situations, and I came across
>http://electron.phys.dal.ca/PPP-HOWTO-27.html  It got me
>thinking...would it be possible, during setup, to start a null modem
>connection, and use that link to do an FTP install?

better to equip both computers with 10baseT ports, get a "crossover cable",
and then you suddenly can do a "real" ftp install, over ethernet.


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From: Matt Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux (Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2) Y2K compliance
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:08:27 +0000

I'm responsible at my job for investigating the Y2K-compliance of all
our systems.  This includes two Red Hat Linux boxes (one is 5.1 and the
other is 5.2).  I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on Y2K-compliance
of Linux.  Neither box is using much significant 3rd party software, so
it would mostly be a matter of the OS itself.  The two boxes are used
for gateway, DNS, e-mail, firewall and web servers.  I've checked Red
Hat's web site, and found nothing on Y2K.  Anyone have any suggestions? 
I'm assuming that, like most other areas, Linux will be vastly superior
to it's competition (even Windows 98 is not fully Y2K-compliant, and
neither is the UnixWare 7.0.0u that I just installed on a Compaq
Proliant 3000).  Thanks.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Pronounce Linux L-eye-nux or Lin-ux?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:09:44 GMT

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:09:48 GMT, garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Baron wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >
> > >which I suppose should really be the standard.
> >
> > This should be easy!
> >
> > In English, Linus is pronounced L-eye-nucks. In Spanish it would be
> > Lee-noose, etc., etc. ...
> >
> 

It's spelled L-I-N-U-X, but its pronounced 'throat wobbler mangrove'

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