Linux-Misc Digest #406, Volume #25               Thu, 10 Aug 00 16:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Problems with Belkin OmniView Switch box ? (blowfish)
  Re: INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't stop!
  Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98 ("Jason")
  Re: fwd: China's Red Flag Linux to fly IPO (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: booting Linux after installing Windows (Dirk Reckmann)
  Re: ssl and mail (imap) (jtoy)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Help burning CDR (iso) image (Alastair Neil)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Help! Include files are missing (blowfish)
  Re: sound card recommendation (blowfish)
  Re: ftpd and telnetd (vururu)

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Problems with Belkin OmniView Switch box ?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:09:23 -0700

Robert Surenko wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am running Mandrake 7.1, and am using a Belkin Omni View SE 4-Port to
> >> switch between the Linux box and a Win98 box.
> >>
> >> I am finding that when I switch from the Win98 box to the Linux box,
> >> spurious character(s) seem to be sent to a Linux xterm.  It seems as if
> >> usually, the spurious character is an "up-arrow", since I often find my
> >> last command (repeated) in the command line (I am using bash).  I am
> >> running the same setup at work with a Linux and NT box and have seen
> >> nary a problem.
> >>
> >> Anybody else having this problem ? This is an annoyance, but my
> >> real worry is that one day I am going to have something disastrous,
> >> repeated in the command line...
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> terry
> >>
> >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >> Before you buy.
> 
> > My Berkin Omni 4 ports KVM died after 2.5 months.
> 
> > I don't have any windoz machine, so, can't answer that part. It worked
> > okay with *BSD and Linux. But died a premature death.
> 
> ******* Did this switch let you alt-f1 or alt-f2 to different
> ******* screens when NOT using X.
> 
I'm not sure. I had the thing mounted under my desk, so, the switch is
just a finger length away, and I used the switch all the time before it
died.

But I think you can check the spec from theirs, or one of the vendor's
web site for detailed info.

> thanks
> 
You're welcomed.

> griz
> 
> > --
> > - Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
> > --
> > - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> > hands,
> >   lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
> > time.
> >   But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
> > takes
> >   Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
> > - The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
> > geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
> >   geek + vi | ~/emacs
> > ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
> >   newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
> > EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
> > - My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
> > deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
> >   Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
> > needle pulling thread.)
> >   lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
> > will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Bob Surenko                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - http://www.fred.net/surenko/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't 
stop!
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:12:23 -0400

Sounds like you don't have the X rpm's installed.
Pulll all the working cononfig files that you have edited/setup/customised
onto some other hdd/partition, and keep them safe.

The do a reinstall, and select X Windows support. Once the all the rpm's are
in , it will try to run the XConfigurator, I think. what ever happens, get
it to finish the install, boot into runlevel 3, and then do the locate
thing. you should have a startx somewhere, and there should be the
XCnfigurator and the XF86Setup programs.
luck.



Dave Brondsema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8murdl$b9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <Xxjk5.3835$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > wtf???? startx not found ?
> >
> > As root,
> >
> > OK, simple stuff:  do  " locate startx"
> > If it errors out , do "locate -u /", which I think will build the
> database.
>
> ok, database built
>
> > then do the "locate startx"
>
> no results.  "locate" works for other things, so we don't need to worry
> about a problem w/ the database
>
> > if you find it, then try running it by typing the full path to it.
> >
> > Check :do you have a startx script which is world executable in
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/ or somewhere abouts?
>
> nope, 5 files there but nothing like startx
>
> > Do you have a valid XF86Config file somewhere?
> no, and i tried a "locate" on it
> > perhaps in /etc/X11/  ?
> not there
> >
> > From run level 3, can you run the "XConfigurator" and complete  the
> > setup properly ?
> no, can't find XConfigurator
> >
> > Every time I've put in X, ( RH 5.0, 5.2, 6.0, Solaris ), there was
> *always*
> > a startx script to kick it off .
> >
> > In the XF86Config file, is your mouse setup properly ?
> >
> >
>
> I haven't really done much yet, I think I'll just wipe the drive and do
> a fresh install.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> --
> Dave Brondsema
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: "Jason" <Jason(AT)cyborgworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:11:28 -0500

I had a similar problem when I first started working with Samba and Windows
2000.  In the end, I upgraded to the latest version of Samba and it seemed
to fix everything. In fact, it really flys now.  I asked the samba lists
about this and so many variables came back that it was overwhelming.  So, I
would say upgrade to the latest version of Samba and try again.


--
                         Jason
          www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...



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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: fwd: China's Red Flag Linux to fly IPO
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:13:44 -0700

Martha H Adams wrote:
> 
> Mainland China's Red Flag Linux is going to be really interesting when it
> becomes available.  It will tell us a lot about the Mainland China
> government.  Nothing nice, I expect; but of great interest to people who
> are thinking about doing social repression in a modern context.
> 
> Also, we can read between the lines better following our own news out of
> Washington.
> 
> Cheers -- Martha Adams

Yeah. It'll be an interesting distro to dissect into. I might add. :-)

Cheerio.

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:20:20 -0700

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > >
> > > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Okay. I agree that source codes are human readable.  But most real human
> > > > > > are not geeks or machineheads.
> > > > >
> > > > > Totally irrelevant.  Freedom of speech is not confined to speech
> > > > > understood only by the majority of people.
> > > > >
> > > > I would believe that machine codes are not speech to most real human.
> > >
> > > Again, that's TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.  Source code in particular, and in
> > > many cases binary, is meaningful to people with the appropriate
> > > training.  Therefore it is a legitimate form of speech.
> > >
> > Sorry. But I don't talk to machine of any kind.
> >
> > Do you write a piece of source code, when you want to tell your
> > mother/wife/girlfriend/ something. Or do you just write to them in plain
> > English ( or whatever *human* language that you use.
> 
> when i write a math paper, i don't expect my mother/wife/girlfriend to
> read it.  it's in english, well, sort of.  pick up a one of those
> yellow springer-verlag books.  nearly any of them will do.  leaf
> through it.  it is equivalently comprehensible to a lot of source
> code.
> 
Well. But math is still more readable to a lot more people than pure
machine codings.
 :-)
> --
> J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> sysengr

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:23:11 -0700

Phillip Lord wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   blowfish> Sorry. But I don't talk to machine of any kind.
> 
>   blowfish> Do you write a piece of source code, when you want to tell
>   blowfish> your mother/wife/girlfriend/ something. Or do you just
>   blowfish> write to them in plain English ( or whatever *human*
>   blowfish> language that you use.
> 
>   blowfish> Or do you compile your source code into binaries, then
>   blowfish> install it in a machine, then your
>   blowfish> mother/wife/girlfriend/whoever can read what you want to
>   blowfish> say?
> 
>         I am glad that I do not have to modify your source code. You
> are under the mistaken impression that I have spent much time trying
> to beat out of first year computer programmers, namely that the
> purpose of source code is for computers to read. Its absolutely is
> not. If it were we would make it easier for computers to read.
> 
No. You guessed wrong. ;-)

>         The purpose of source code is to communicate to another
> human (or to yourself at a later date) what you have told the computer
> to do. Its for this reason that meaningful variables names are
> important. And also commenting. There are several import rules for
> commenting. One of which is "do not say the same thing in comments as
> you do in the program". Comments of the sort "increment x by 1" are
> pointless for instance. In other words program code, and comments are
> both forms of speech.
> 
>         Phil
Yes, you're both correct and incorrect.

To the programmers, yes, but tothe population at large- no.

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Reckmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: booting Linux after installing Windows
Date: 10 Aug 2000 19:26:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I had a linux redhat 6.2 machine and I installed Windows. Now I'm not
>getting the Lilo prompt. Is there anyway that I can boot the vmlinuz
>image through a boot disk? Once I can acccess the linux partitions in my
>computer , I can rewrite lilo using /sbin/lilo.

If you didn't install LILO in your MBR (Master Boot Record), but in
your Linux partition, it's probably enough to mark your Linux
partition as active in DOS's fdisk.

Hope this helps!
  Dirk


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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.imap,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ssl and mail (imap)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:44:17 -0400

Thanks

Pieter Jacques wrote:

> With the SSL option enabled, Netscape will try to connect on port 993,
> which is the standard port for secure IMAP, so you should change your
> "-d imap" to "-d 993".  If you telnet to the port on which stunnel is
> running, you will get connected (as you note), but there is no IMAPD or
> SSL prompt:  stunnel is waiting to exchange and verify SSL information
> before invoking IMAP.
>
> - Pieter
>
> jtoy wrote:
> >
> > I have downloaded stunnel (a program to allow non SSL ip daemons to have
> > ssl sessions).  I compiled stunnel. I already have OpenSSL via rpm and
> > imap via the redhat 6.2 install.  I created certificates as
> > stunnel.pem.  I started stunnel with:
> > /usr/local/sbin/stunnel -d imap -l /usr/sbin/imapd -p
> > /usr/local/ssl/certs/stunnel.pem
> > IT started fine without errors accoring to /var/log/messages .  I can
> > telnet to 127.0.0.1:145 (IMAP's default port), but when I try to connect
> > from netscape with the ssl option enabled, I can't connect and it times
> > out.  BTW, when I connect via telnet, shouldn't I get a message that
> > says IMAPD or SSL? I searched for a ssl and stunnel log but couldn't
> > find one. What could be the problem?  I realise that there are too many
> > possibilites, but please make suggestions.  I will give you more info
> > about my system if you need.  Thanks
> > Jason Toy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://toy.eyep.net


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:32:24 -0700

phil hunt wrote:
> 
> On 09 Aug 2000 21:36:20 -0400, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >> >
> >> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Okay. I agree that source codes are human readable.  But most real human
> >> > > are not geeks or machineheads.
> >> >
> >> > Totally irrelevant.  Freedom of speech is not confined to speech
> >> > understood only by the majority of people.
> >> >
> >> I would believe that machine codes are not speech to most real human.
> >
> >Again, that's TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.  Source code in particular, and in
> >many cases binary, is meaningful to people with the appropriate
> >training.  Therefore it is a legitimate form of speech.
> 
> Indeed. Welsh isn't understood by most humans, but something in Welsh
> has the same freedom of speech as anything else. Most scientific and
> technical writing isn't understandable by most people, either.
> 
You're twisting it again.

At least Welsh is not understood by most others non Welsh. But still,
the Welsh have no problem communicating to other Welsh.

But if you say, write a piece of code in C. and commanded it in English,
Irish, Welsh, German, French, Spanish, Portugese, Latin, Persian,
Arabic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Zulu, Yuhoo, Yahoo, Googoo,
Woo Wee. etc. Most still won't be able to understand the code. If
they've no programming trainning. They might understand the command, but
still not the actual codes.
> --
> *****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
> ** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry!   **
> ** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/        **
> ** Spread the word: Put this message in your sig.                   **
> 
> 

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:35:29 +0100
From: Alastair Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help burning CDR (iso) image

Patrick Lamb wrote:
> 
> Dances With Crows wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:21:02 -0500, pdlamb wrote:
> > >I need some help burning an image to a CD.  I haven't been able to burn
> > >it with cdrecord, using a command line like 'cdrecord speed=4 dev=0,0,0
> > >-v pinstripe-powertools-i386.iso' -- makes the best coaster you've ever
> > >seen!  I've had my best luck mastering and burning images with xcdroast,
> > >but I can't figure out how to specify an image file.
> >
> > How did you make the .iso file in the first place?  And can you check
> > the .iso using the loopback, like so?
> >   mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/other -o loop,ro
> > should mount the .iso on /mnt/other --if it coughs up error messages
> > unrelated to the lack of loopback support in your kernel (Put it in!) or
> > the nonexistence of /mnt/other (mkdir it), then the .iso file is more
> > than likely corrupt.  To make an .iso file out of a data CD, just do:
> >   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=2k
> 
> The file was a download from the Redhat site (powertools 7 beta).  I can
> read it fine as loopback.
> 
> > xcdroast is a frontend to cdrecord and mkisofs--nothing more, nothing
> > less.  What works in xcdroast *must* work in cdrecord.  Does cdrecord
> > cough up any errors while burning?
> 
> Sounds good, but unfortunately all the documentation is code - there is
> no documentation, help files, etc.  Even the README is dedicated to
> describing compilation and installation.  No errors during the cdrecord
> run.  So, clue me in: how do you specify an image file to be used with
> xcdroast?  Or does xcdroast feed a command line to cdrecord that is
> substantially different from the one I listed above?

How big is the image?
I would try adding padding try -pad=20M


--
Those who are mentally and emotionally healthy are those who have
learned when to say yes, when to say no and when to say whoopee. -- W.S.
Krabill
Alastair Neil

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:34:16 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> blowfish writes:
> > You told me that the $25k that you have received through contributing to
> > Debian, came from the Finnish government.
> 
> Produce a quotation.

Gee. You want me to dig through dejanews? My news server sucks. The
thread is not complete. That's why I can reply to some of the responds
until very late, or not at all.

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:37:41 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> blowfish writes:
> > Anyway. You have sold your code for profit.
> 
> For there to have been a sale there would have to have been a contract
> which obligated me to deliver the code and my customer to pay me.  None of
> my Debian work has involved such a contract (some of my other work has).
> 
Then, please enlighten me in how to make $25k for no reason.

I don't mind to have that happen to me a few times a year. :-)

> > Because you know the whole idea of GNU-GPL, FSF and profit takings are
> > contradictory to one another.
> 
> Wrong.

Right!

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Help! Include files are missing
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:38:48 -0700

Christoph Lechner wrote:
> 
> Hallo !
> 
> On my SUSE 6.2 Linux there are all the include files in "netinet" such as
> "netinet/tcp_ip.h" missing! How can I add them ?
> 
> Regards
> - C. Lechner
Install the devel packages.

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: sound card recommendation
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:40:27 -0700

Stephen Britton wrote:
> 
> I need to buy a sound card for my computer that i just put together.
> What is a good generic sound card(preferably pci) compatible with Linux
> and FreeBSD.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stephen Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OSS has released sound driver for both OpenBSD and FreeBSD recently. I
believe it's for the Soundblaster.

Check out OSS's web site and download it.
-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: ftpd and telnetd
From: vururu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:44:57 -0700

thanks...

vuru


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