Linux-Misc Digest #608, Volume #25               Tue, 29 Aug 00 07:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Restaurant Booking System (Phil)
  Re: opengl on sgi linux machines? (Thor Lancelot Simon)
  pagenumber as command line argument (Marcel Vanormelingen)
  Re: How to e-mail files? (Glitch)
  Re: pagenumber as command line argument (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative? (kristian ragndahl)
  Select and Paste Keys ? (Laurent Jacques)
  Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Hallvard Paulsen)
  Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative? (Andreas Kahari)
  IP Configuration script (Jeffrey Hood)
  Re: System hangup using Netscape (muzh)
  Re: upgrade to a new version of glib (muzh)
  Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux ("Kurt Anneborg")
  Re: Graphs program ! (Henning)
  Re: Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux ("Andr� Solheim")
  what to choose ("Andr� Solheim")
  Re: Can't ping ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Graphs program ! (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: Finding files (Garry Knight)
  Re: Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux (Garry Knight)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Restaurant Booking System
Date: 29 Aug 2000 10:24:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Richard Watson -[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]- spewed forth the following rubbish:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil) writes:
>> You're forgetting he's taking online bookings. I presume payment needs to be
>> made as well. 
>
>I doubt it would as I've never paid when I've booked a table at a
>restaurant. I usually wait to see if there's a fly in the soup before
>I do that.

Some restaurants require proof that you are actually booking a table, and
if you don't show, they'll charge you a standard charge for the loss of that
table for a given amount of time. It's fairly standard and seems sensible.
Although I said payment, verification was also implied. It depends what sort
of restaurant it is.

>> Forgetting for one minute the hassle of having your own
>> webserver you're also going to have to think about security. Security in the
>> form of the transmission of the data and also the storage of the
>> data.
>
>You mean like securely stored on a remote web server and encrypted
>with PGP - credit card numbers erased after being retrieved by 128bit
>secure http?  

Either way, you're going to need a key, stored somewhere on the server. Unless
you are adamant about the security of your server this isn't secure. As I
said, this is the reason to go for a third party who can guarantee security.

>Strange as it sounds remarkably like my weekend as I've just sorted
>something exactly like that out for someone.

I've done it three time so far, no problems, but I'm guaranteeing security on
the servers.

>> If you're not taking the credit card numbers over the web, I would advise
>> going your own or getting someone else to setup the stuff for
>> you. It wouldn't be that expensive,
>
>I'm not sure why you say that. Why does it matter where the server
>is? Now I'm not against people setting up web servers, in fact I'm all
>for it (that's why there's one under my desk) but this sounds like
>something that can be handled for low cost by an existing server
>operator of which there are plenty. Even a co-location is going to be
>better for most people than having the thing on the premises and
>sorting out the right internet connectivity.

I think you might have misunderstood me. I said if he wasn't taking credit
cards numbers over the web, he shouldn't consider the jokers he was on about
and just go off to do something himself, whether that means hiring another
third party, buying a co-lo, setting up their own server or using web hosting.
I just meant to stay away from anyone who's gonna be getting paid for every
single booking.

>> If you want something like this give me a shout.
>
>Nothing like a good piece of advertising ;-)
>(note smiley)

Well I've done (both secure and insecure) this kind of transactions before,
it's my second profession after administrator ;)
Phil.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.admin
Subject: Re: opengl on sgi linux machines?
Date: 29 Aug 2000 05:26:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexis Cousein  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
>> 
>> In article <8oedm9$6he$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Andy Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Dan Stromberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >
>> >: I'm noticing that even tho intel/amd smokes mips in pure cpu
>> >: performance,
>> >
>> >Not on any code I've ever run.
>> >
>> >MIPS MHz x 2-3 = Intel MHz
>> 
>> Considering that SGI's best "MIPS MHz" to date is, in fact, generally running
>> about 1/3 commodity "Intel MHz", there you go.
>
>On his code, perhaps -- there are enough codes where a 1 GHz PIII gets a
>handsome spanking by a MIPS R12KA-400 processor.

Sure.  Unfortunately, I can buy about a dozen 800Mhz PIII systems for the
cost of anything with that processor in it, or at least three OEM 21264
machines.

Except at the very high end, it's *awfully* hard to make the case for curvy
blue hardware any more, which is a real shame.

-- 
Thor Lancelot Simon                                           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        "And where do all these highways go, now that we are free?"

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From: Marcel Vanormelingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pagenumber as command line argument
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:21:29 GMT



I have a large pdf file that I want to use as a context-sensitive
helpfile,
so I have to open this file on the required page.
A pdf file can be opened on a specific page, but this is fixed in the
document,
but in this case the page number is supplied from outside the pdf file.

On top of this it should work on a SuSe Linux OS

I spend 2 days trying to figure this out, but to no avail.




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Before you buy.

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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:02:56 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to e-mail files?

Yes, I believe you are right. I wasn't thinking correctly for the
direction of the compatibility.  2k will read 97 but of course 97 can't
read 2k. I was thinking of it backwards.

Garry Knight wrote:
> 
> Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >There won't be any permissions. Just like when you mount a dos
> >filesystem under Linux. The dos files do not have permissions b/c they
> >can't.  As for emailing, save the Staroffice document in Word format,
> >however I believe Staroffice is only compatible up to Word97 so you are
> >out of luck if the person uses Office 2000. Just save it and email it as
> >Word97 if possible.
> 
> Doesn't Word 2000 read Word 97 files, then?
> 
> --
> Garry Knight
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: pagenumber as command line argument
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 11:37:28 +0100

In article <8ofvae$lpp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marcel Vanormelingen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>I have a large pdf file that I want to use as a context-sensitive
>helpfile,
>so I have to open this file on the required page.
>A pdf file can be opened on a specific page, but this is fixed in the
>document,
>but in this case the page number is supplied from outside the pdf file.
>
>On top of this it should work on a SuSe Linux OS
>
>I spend 2 days trying to figure this out, but to no avail.
>
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

This is not OS specific but depends on the program you use for viewing
the PDF file. If the program (e.g. 'acroread', 'gv' or 'xpdf') does
not provide a switch for you to use, you can't [generally] do it. 

Read the documentation for your PDF viewer.

/A

-- 
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
========================================================================
The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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From: kristian ragndahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative?
Date: 29 Aug 2000 09:01:09 GMT

>>>>> "BF" == Bob Fahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    BF> "Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
    BF> news:8lmqqa$isv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

    >> Is there X-Window alternative?

    http://www.berlin-consortium.org/

    BF> Have fun with the most flexible OS in the world.  Linux.  It
    BF> even serves up spoiled rotten users like you!

    Get a life.

-- 
kristian ragndahl


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From: Laurent Jacques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Select and Paste Keys ?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:28:41 +0200

Hello all,

I have a new wheelmouse. It has a NOTclickable wheel with only two
buttons.
I know that I can't use the 'Emulate3button' field in the XF86Config
file with the 'ZAxisMapping' option (and Co) which allows the wheel
control.
I've seen that in
('http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/'). It's very shame
for me 'cause It would permit to simulate the 'paste' of my clipboard
content in any application (xterm, netscape, ...). Does anyone know a
solution for that problem ? Is it resolved with XFree 4.0 ?

Anyway, I 've imagined another method to solve my problem.
I want to replace the standart mouse 'select and paste' (NOT the Meta+c/
Meta+v of nestcape!) by a keyboard link.
Is it possible ? Can I link, for instance, the not-used-micro$oft
keyboard key (or another one) to the 'pasting' of a text region selected
with mouse ?

In advance, thank you.


--
Laurent JACQUES (Doctorant F.R.I.A.)                      Office: b230
Institut de Physique Th�orique                    Tel: +32.10.47.32.36
Universit� Catholique de Louvain                  Fax: +32.10.47.24.14
2, chemin du Cyclotron                  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
B-1348 Louvain-la-Neuve Belgium    http://www.fyma.ucl.ac.be/~ljacques




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From: Hallvard Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:06:56 +0200



William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> 
> In my previous, I failed to mention that the Linux and Windows machines are
> on a LAN. Thus, any of the machines can control (in a limited way) one or
> more of the other Linux machines across the LAN.

What do you mean by "in a limited way"

--

Hallvard P

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Subject: Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 12:16:58 +0100

In article <C_Dq5.12815$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Fahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8lmqqa$isv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> I read an article "X must die." in www.linux.com.
>> Is there X-Window alternative?
>>
>> Cause KDE or GNOME environment is not better than compared with M$
>> Windows 9x. They are the clones of M$ Windows 9x. At least Pentium II
>> with 128M ram manages KDE application smoothly in my experience. I feel
>> Linux in GUI environment seems to go backwards. For example, when I do
>> 'startx', run Netscape then I suddenly return 1995 before using Windows
>> 95.


You're not confusing X Window and desktop environments? KDE and Gnome
are running on top of X Window, and so does fvwm (see [1]) which in my
opinion is much nicer than both KDE and Gnome.


>>
>> Using Linux in text mode is very nice. I like it. Its Kernel is compact,
>> fast, provides manys ways of doing a job (Network, Local, Cluster.)
>> under low cost. :)
>>
>> Is there X-Window alternative?


I'm using a program called 'splitvt' (its own package on Debian
systems, see [2]) to get extra "windows" in the console. It works
pretty well in console mode.

You may also want to try 'screen' (see [3]).

There was also a Askslashdot question about alternative/old GUIs.
See [4] for that article.

One reply in that column was about something called "Twin" that can be
found on [5]. I installed it and tested it but didn't like it (I was
to lazy to get the right fonts to work). It's a windowing system for
console mode (with draggable (sp?) windows etc.).


>
>It's called, "CONSOLE" you bag o' rocks.
>I sometimes wonder how this world even turns on its axis carrying around
>dead weight like this.

You, sir are *plonked*

/A

[1] <URL:http://www.fvwm.org/>
[2] <URL:http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/utils/splitvt.html>
[3] <URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html>
[4] <URL:http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/00/05/04/1321234.shtml>
[5] <URL:http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/>

-- 
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
========================================================================
The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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From: Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: IP Configuration script
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:22:48 GMT

I am not -quite- a Linux newbie, but I can't figure out how to create a 
shell script that I can run that will set the proper configurations in 
all files and restart the required services to allow my access to two 
different networks...

One has ip 192.168.0.100, netmask 255.255.255.0, gateway of 192.168.0.1

Other has ip 192.168.1.100, netmask 255.255.0.0, gateway of 192.168.1.11

I'm sure that this is possible, I just can't quite fill in all the 
pieces..

Thanks
JH


-- 

Jeffrey Hood
Senior Analyst
Norsoft, Inc.
jhood [you-know-why] @epix.net

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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System hangup using Netscape
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:23:57 +1200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed SuSE 6.4 for the first time on my notebook with
> the "standard"-installation. Everything works fine - LAN, Modem, etc.
> But there is one problem: When I start Netscape (I've installed the
> latest version provided by SuSE - version 4.75) in KDE logged in
> as "root" and open some homepages, the whole System gets stuck after a
> short time. I can't even move the mouse. there is no way to reboot the
> machine; only a power-off reset. But if I use Netscape, logged in as
> dummy-user, everything works. So I downloaded all patches for this SuSE
> version and installed them, but the result is the same.
> Does anybody have a similar experience? How can I fix this? It doesn't
> even write a message in /var/log or elsewhere.
> 

I got Netscape /6.4 working by 
a) Downloading and installing all the XFree336 updates from SuSE (In
fact I am using XFree 4.0.1 now) and 
b) Downloading and installing Netscape4.75 from the Netscape site. (It
is a tarball, but it seems to overwrite previous Netscape without
problems)
2 points --
1) Why do you want to surf the Internet as root?  It opens up your whole
system to the evil denizens out there --
2) A complete freeze which not even <ctrl>-<alt>-<backspace> can get out
of is usually a hardware problem -- faulty memory chips? heat buildup?
loose connection? etc


-- 
Never trust a man in a suit --

cll

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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrade to a new version of glib
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:29:41 +1200

Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:
> 
> I am trying to GTK+; however, GTK+ requires glib versions 1.2.8 or higher.
> At the moment, I am running glib version 1.2.5.  How do I remove version
> 1.2.5 and replace it with 1.2.8 so that I can run GTK+?  I am a linux
> newbie so please gentle with me?  Please have your instructions to me
> as specific as possible.  Thanks.
> 

Which distribution are you using?
The easiest way might be to get the update from your distribution's ftp
site and install it over the previous one (works fine with SuSE -- and
probably with other rpm-based distros)

-- 
Never trust a man in a suit --

cll

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From: "Kurt Anneborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:14:34 +0200

Hello!

I want to reuse a disk earlier partitioned for Linux.
I'm not able to remove the extended DOS-partion wiht DOS-FDISK.
it says it's not possible because of existing logical
units. I try to remove these but but still denied to remove
the partition. How to start from scratch with this disk.

Environment: Win 95 on Pentium 133.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]









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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning)
Subject: Re: Graphs program !
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:42:08 GMT

On 28 Aug 2000 21:36:51 -0500, Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>>>> "Henning" == Henning  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>    Henning> Hi all, I'm looking for a good graphs/math program for
>    Henning> linux.  I have tried Gnuplot but I find it to be less
>    Henning> than desirable.  I would like it to have a GUI. And as
>    Henning> the output is to be used in latex docs, I would like it
>    Henning> to be able to export to a format readable be latex.
>
>Do you require free programs?  If you're willing to pay for
>them try either Mathematica or Macsyma.  Both are extremely 
>capable math and graphing programs and both are available for
>Linux although the cost can be high if you're not a student.
>
>For simple graphs with high quality output I would stick to 
>Gnuplot and try one of the front ends to it.  I've used Gnuplot
>in my TeX documents with no problem.
>
>-- 
>=============================================================
>| Support Signature Minimalism                              |
>=============================================================

I was a bit fast to judge gnuplot !! I had been a bit unlucky when I
found an introduktion to it. I spend some time on the net after
reading your mails, and I found a better (stile not great) manual with
some examples, and it is able to do all the things I would like it to
;) so thanks for showing me the light ;)

BTW.
        How do I make x-akses to LOG?
        How do I make a marking at a specified point? (I want to make
a line from the x-akses to f(x) and out to the Y-akses?

Tkanks for the help.


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From: "Andr� Solheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:45:10 +0200
Reply-To: "Andr� Solheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You could try to get hold of a program called Nuke wich erases ALL
information on both your disk and system BIOS.

I think it is a Compaq tool. search the compaq.com website and try to find
it there. If not, mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and i can mail it
to you. it's just a little DOS file

Regards from

Andr� Solheim

"Kurt Anneborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:TgMq5.1908$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello!
>
> I want to reuse a disk earlier partitioned for Linux.
> I'm not able to remove the extended DOS-partion wiht DOS-FDISK.
> it says it's not possible because of existing logical
> units. I try to remove these but but still denied to remove
> the partition. How to start from scratch with this disk.
>
> Environment: Win 95 on Pentium 133.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From: "Andr� Solheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what to choose
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:49:15 +0200
Reply-To: "Andr� Solheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In the near future i plan to make the change from Microsoft OS to Linux, but
I am not quite sure what it is the best Linux distribution out there.
I consider myself as very skilled when it comes to computers and computer
systems. (Currently holds the MCSE certification)
I have recently looked at both Caldera Open Linux and Redhat 5.2, Redhat 6.1
and Redhat 6.2.
I plan to use the system with "all the bells and whistles on", mail, web
news, samba etc.

I also require a system that is highly configurable and one that I can use
to test out security features such as encryption, firewall etc.

Sincere regards

Andr� Solheim

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't ping
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:36:05 GMT

Do you get "network unreachable" or ?

Try ifconfig and see if there is any problem there.
If you've changed the hostname make sure you've entered
that hostname + ip-address in the hosts file (in /etc).
I use Red Hat so it might be some differances but you could
also try:

cat /var/log/messages |grep network
or
cat /var/log/messages |grep eth0

and see if the services has failed to start.

/Fredrik

In article <8ofqsi$h50$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jonathan McBrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just installed Mandrake 7.0 and can't ping any machine on my
> network.
>
> I've got the 3c509 nic installed OK and assigned the IP address,
subnet
> mask, etc. correctly as per a previous installation of Red Hat. I can
> ping the ethernet card's IP without problems, but no other machine on
> the network.
>
> Bizarrely, if I boot my Windows 98 partition (which has exactly the
> same IP address, etc. as the Mandrake partition) I can ping, etc. as
> expected.
>
> I've tried everything I can think of but can't get this to work. Any
> ideas?
>
> --
> # Jonathan McBrien
> # jonathan  [at]  m c b r i e n  [d0t]  0rg
> # Tragically, children are growing up who'll
> # never see a Guru Meditation number.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Subject: Re: Graphs program !
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 12:52:51 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Henning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for a good graphs/math program for linux. 
>I have tried Gnuplot but I find it to be less than desirable.
>I would like it to have a GUI. And as the output is to be used in
>latex docs, I would like it to be able to export to a format readable
>be latex.
>
>Anyone knows of a good program? 
>
>Thanks 
>Henning M
>

Can't you say "something like Maple" or "something like Matlab"?

Try Octave (see <URL:http://bevo.che.wisc.edu/octave/>), it's
somehting like Matlab and uses Gnuplot. No GUI though, but you can
interface it from your own C and C++ applications.

Take a look at
<URL:http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/linuxlist/linuxlist/node43.html#scientificgraphics>
too (sorry for the long URL).

Oh, and <URL:http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/index.shtml>.

/A

-- 
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All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
========================================================================
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding files
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:05:06 +0100

"David Emmett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Dux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

>> What is the best way to locate files if you don't know their paths.

>Try the "find" command.  for eg.  "find / -name filename -print" will search
>from / looking for file called filename.  Beware - very I/O intensive.

And it will also search non-local filesystems. So, if you want to find only
files on Linux filesystems, you can use:

  find path -name filename -xdev

The -xdev parameter tells find not to look on non-Linux partitions. And you
don't really need the -print parameter as it's the default action for find.

David's example above uses / as the path so find searches from the root
directory. To search in the current directory and any subdirectories:

  find . -name filename

Also, if you use the locate command, you can get literally hundreds of matches,
since it does a case-insensitive search and matches "filename" as a substring,
i.e. not as a whole word. So if you want to narrow the search right down and
you know the exact name of the file, you can do:

  locate filename | grep -w filename

And if you're not sure of the character case of "filename":

  locate filename | grep -iw filename

This is a great deal faster than using find, and gets a far more accurate
result. If you do this kind of file searching a lot, you could declare a
function in your .bash_profile:

  function fastlocate
  {
    locate $1 | grep -iw $1
  }

No doubt someone will now come up with a faster or better way of doing this. :o)

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reuse of disk partitioned for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:00:40 +0100

"Kurt Anneborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I want to reuse a disk earlier partitioned for Linux.
>I'm not able to remove the extended DOS-partion wiht DOS-FDISK.
>it says it's not possible because of existing logical
>units. I try to remove these but but still denied to remove
>the partition. How to start from scratch with this disk.

Download Ranish Partition Manager from http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Use it to set the partition types of any non DOS-partitions to the same type as
your DOS partition. Then format each one and delete them, going backwards from
the last one, but do *not* delete your existing DOS partition. You'll then be
left with just one partition using the entire drive.

While I've carried out the above procedure successfully, you do so at your own
risk.

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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