Linux-Misc Digest #710, Volume #25 Sat, 9 Sep 00 16:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Logged into KDE desktop as root ("test")
Re: How to delete -ash ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Equinox)
Re: Installing Linux on old Compaq Laptop 4mb ram and 428 mb hard drive ("Philo")
Unable to view contents of public FTP directories... (MH)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Ingemar Lundin")
Re: Unable to view contents of public FTP directories... ("Brad Hein")
# of maximum outstanding disk IO's ("Hog Rider")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Ingemar Lundin")
X Window problem on a HP 3390 Notebook ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
WWW page building/management apps for Linux? (Dave Skinner)
Re: Adding RAM to RedHat Linux (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Installing Linux on old Compaq Laptop 4mb ram and 428 mb hard drive ("Peter T.
Breuer")
Re: Hard disks in Linux (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: 4track recording software for linux (David E. Fox)
Re: # of maximum outstanding disk IO's ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (jabali)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (jabali)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (jabali)
Re: File sychronizing tool, performance graph tool ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Hard disks in Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Logged into KDE desktop as root (Jerry L Kreps)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Yannick")
Newbie with ZIP (Martin Racette)
Re: How to delete -ash (Bill Unruh)
Re: WWW page building/management apps for Linux? (Jerry L Kreps)
Re: The Government's Decision to Use Microsoft (David Steuber)
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From: "test" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logged into KDE desktop as root
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 11:10:30 -0700
Hello,
I'm a new Linux user, so I'm probably making some new user type error.
Logged into the KDE desktop as root on Caldera eServer 2.3, I can browse
through the various folders of files and utilities, but it won't let me
launch anything.
Does anyone know what might be the problem?
Thanks
David Stone
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to delete -ash
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:23:33 -0500
On 9 Sep 2000, David Rysdam quoth:
~~ Date: 9 Sep 2000 13:46:36 GMT
~~ From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: How to delete -ash
~~
~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
~~ Hash: SHA1
~~
~~ Two things to try:
~~
~~ First, try it in quotes:
~~
~~ rm "-ash"
What good do the quotes do?
~~ Second (and this is more likely to work) try wildcards:
~~
~~ rm ?ash
This will still expand to '-ash', so it fails.
~~ or
~~
~~ rm *ash
Ditto.
~~ Don't accidentally trash other matching files, though...
Oddly enough, that is all he _could_ trash with that last one.
Out of your three suggestions, you tested not one of them. Please
test your solutions, or at least mark them as untested ( you sort
of did, but not really ). On a side note, a neat trick is to:
touch -- -i
or
touch ./-i
Asciibetically, '-' is pretty low, so this will protect almost all
'normallly named' files in a directory.
perl -le 'print "$_ => ", chr() for 0..127' | less
I think I got the '-i' trick from UNIX Power Tools. I have found it
useful to 'protect' certain directories. Another good thing, if you
are a tcsh user is:
set -r rmstar
This sets a read-only variable, so that tcsh prompts you for
confirmation before deleting all files in a directory.
anm
--
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:23:05 GMT
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 12:17:39 GMT, "Ingemar Lundin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thats right Mark, 500 milj Windows...since the introduction of Windows 95,
> MS has sold 150 milj copies of Windows 9X (3 milj retail included), and to
> that add Windows version 1.0-3.11 + Windows NT 3.01-4.0 + Windows 2000
> (execeeding 2 milj so far).
> How is that for a sucess story?
Can you present sources for these figures?
By the way, what is "milj"? (Assuming it means "million"... but
what's the "j" for?)
> Yeah well... Windows CE is still the choice of OS for the traditional PC
> manufac. even in this field.
WinCE isn't used by the traditional PC manufacturers. That's the
realm of Win95/98/Millennium, and to a lesser extent NT4/2000. The
only "traditional PC manufacturer" I can think of that has released a
handheld is HP, and admittedly they do use WinCE.
However, most of the handhelds are manufactured by companies that
weren't major players in the home PC market, and they tend to use OSes
and GUIs specifically designed for handhelds. (PalmOS, EPOC, etc.)
Same story for "embedded systems", which tend to use OSes designed
specifically for their hardware, to accomplish their intended purpose.
More often than not, the operation of the computer is transparent to
the user. (Think about the computer control module in your car's
engine.)
> Again...running Apache is *not* the same as running Linux, most of the large
> commercial companies is still Unix oriented.
I think most people here realize that.
--Russell
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email (spam-disabled):
rdh *at* salug *dot* org
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on old Compaq Laptop 4mb ram and 428 mb hard drive
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:28:14 -0500
you are quite correct...do not even think of trying to run any gui...
however if you want a real simple way to just give linux a try...you can put
pygmy linux on about 6 floppies and transfer and set it up on your current
dos partition in a matter of minutes.
i believe the url was http://pygmy.penguin.cz
(if i am wrong just do a www.google.com search)
Philo
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to view contents of public FTP directories...
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 11:41:46 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have visited several FTP sites to download files and get the following
error message whenever I attempt to view the contents of any directory:
500 Illegal PORT Command
ftp:bind:Address already in use
Obviously, this makes it impossible to navigate or to download files.
What's going on? I can view these same sites with a WWW browser, and
can download files via browser (albeit one file at a time), but I cannot
do this via FTP.
--
Don't waste your vote. Vote Green, or don't vote at all.
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:53:25 GMT
well Russel... if you read the whole thread you would perhaps know why i
wrote that!
/IL
> > Again...running Apache is *not* the same as running Linux, most of the
large
> > commercial companies is still Unix oriented.
>
> I think most people here realize that.
>
>
> --Russell
>
> ------------------------
> email (spam-disabled):
> rdh *at* salug *dot* org
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From: "Brad Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to view contents of public FTP directories...
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:50:34 -0400
> 500 Illegal PORT Command
> ftp:bind:Address already in use
Looks like you have a program listening to the port 20 on your computer.
bind is the process of attaching your program to a port to listen on. only
one program can listen to a port at a time.
> Obviously, this makes it impossible to navigate or to download files.
> What's going on? I can view these same sites with a WWW browser, and
> can download files via browser (albeit one file at a time), but I cannot
> do this via FTP.
yup, check for programs which listen on your ftp port 20. and nuke it.
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From: "Hog Rider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: # of maximum outstanding disk IO's
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 11:46:11 -0700
We are doing some performance testing of disk storage on different
platforms, and I was wondering if Linux has a maximum number of IO's that
can be outstanding at any given time. Translated, if the storage device is
busy and the h/w queue is full, how many IO's will Linux queue up waiting
for the storage device to be available again.
Thanks in advance!
Rider
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:56:49 GMT
you cant be for real...are you really pushing for a OS that has been
STONEDEATH!!! for at least 10 years now???
/IL
"Jim Broughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The amiga had many capabilities. TRUE Multitasking (priority based round
robin.)
> The ability (with add on components) of producing commercial quality
video. Some
> commercials were done (dont ask for name I know them not) and most cable
companies
> used the
> amiga for the program schedule channel output. (saw a few of those guru
meditation
> system faults on my local cables program channel) (for you windows users
thats like
> a BSOD). Was the first real affordable desktop computer that had full
scale rendering
> software. (allthough slow as hell without a 68030 or better) A built in
graphical
> user
> interface (not great but not bad either). It did all that running stock at
8mhz.
> First computer to offer 6.5 million color output (albiet for stills with
stock
> hardware).
> Used a 2 button mouse as apposed to apples 1 button. Also had a robust
shell language
> too
> boot. REXX a software programming (language?) was pioneered on the amiga
and later
> spread
> to other operating systems. (although it never really caught on and got
left in the
> dust)
> Too damm much to list.
>
> --
> Jim Broughton
> (The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
> If Sense were common everyone would have it!
> Following Air and Water the third most abundant
> thing on the planet is Human Stupidity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X Window problem on a HP 3390 Notebook
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:51:30 GMT
I installed RedHat 6.2 on my HP 3390 notebook. It comes up to the GUI
login screen and after I type in my password. the screen goes blank and
after hitting the ctrl Alt Fx keys sometimes it finally comes up to the
X window and sometimes it locks up solid. The Display was listed in the
isntall options for video drivers. I edited the conf.linuxconf file to
login at the F2 terminal but that did not work. Any Ideas ??
Thanks for any info,, David
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WWW page building/management apps for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Are there any easy to use WWW page building and site >management apps for
>Linux? Anything roughly equivalent to FrontPage? If >not, what tools
>are generally used for this function?
>
You could try http://www.linuxlinks.com/ or http://freshmeat.net/ - they both have a
big collection of links to good www building software.
Cheers
Dave
_____________________________________________________________
Want a new web-based email account ? ---> http://www.firstlinux.net
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding RAM to RedHat Linux
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:09:00 -0400
"B. Joshua Rosen" wrote:
> Have you tried going into the BIOS and turing off plug and play OS? I'm
> not sure if that will help for this problem but I've found that turning
> off plug and play OS fixes a host of configuration problems. I always
> turn off plug and play OS and I've never had to modify LILO. I've got
> four systems, with 192, 256, 384 and 512M respectively, Redhat Linux
> (I've used 5.2,6.0, 6.1 and now 6.2) finds all of the memory on all of
> them.
>
> Joal Heagney wrote:
> >
> > Raymond Doetjes wrote:
> >
> > > With the kernel 2.2.x the append is no longer necesarry it asks the BioS
> > > how much memory is in the system.
> > > So my guess is that when you start the computer and it is testing memory
> > > that you also only see 128MB right?
> >
> > Wrong. In Redhat 6.2 I get the same thing, except with a 64MB and a 32MB
> > RAM, and the BIOS definatly see's 96MB. But when my machine boots up to
> > linux, if I don't have mem=96MB as an extra kernel option, linux only sees
> > the first 64MB.
> >
> > Joal Heagney/AncientHart
I had a problem with my Creative Labs Soundblaster 16 PnP sound board on this
machine (ISA card). Turning off the Plug and Pray in the BIOS fixed it. My
other machine also has a board of the same name, but it is slightly different
in that it has one less jack on the back. On that machine (4 years older), I
did not have to turn off the PnP in the BIOS. Good thing, because I dual boot
that machine with Windows 95 and have no idea how to configure W95 if I do not
just let the PnP do it.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 3:00pm up 31 days, 22:27, 4 users, load average: 3.26, 3.20, 2.82
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on old Compaq Laptop 4mb ram and 428 mb hard drive
Date: 9 Sep 2000 19:01:13 GMT
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I just inherited an old Compaq 486 laptop with 4 megs
: of ram. It had maybe a 60 or 70 mb hard drive. I just installed
: a 528 mb drive that I was also given.
You really need another 4MB of ram. The disk is way big enough (I use a
486sx50 laptop with 8MB of ram and 170MB of disk, half devoted to
the system .. which runs X, compiles, and so on). However, yes you will
be able to run linux on this. It'll be slow as molasses, because you
essentially only have 2.5MB of real ram, after subtracting the kernel
space. Youl be in swap the whole time.
Best to get a 2.0.* kernel (or an even older one).
: I was thinking of installing Linux on the system. I have
: noticed that Slackware allows for basic floppy installation
: so that's one possiblilty. I have heard that it's hard to install
: Linux on a laptop with 4 mb of ram. I would imagine that
This is true. Slackware will have special instructions for that
case. Pay attention to them. Essentially, youl have to eschew using a
ramdisk in the install. Try installing slackware 3.0 if you can. That
should be healthier on 4MB.
: it would be hard or impossible for X-Windows to run on it.
No, it's just hard.
: It doesn't have a cd-rom drive or pcmcia adapter availability.
No pcmcia! What are you going to do? Link it via SLIp over the serial
port? Well, i suppose so.
: I was also thinking of the possiblilty of using a parallel
: ethernet adapter and doing a "network install" I have never
: done it before.
No. You don want to do this. Use the floppy. It'll only be about 10
diskettes for the base install.
: Another idea that I had was to link up the laptop with
: workable Windows / Linux computer and download the
: Linux to the laptop using a serial or parallel cable connection.
Not worth the effort. Once you have the base in place you can do serial
and parallel links anyway.
: The hard drive on the laptop presently has Windows 3.11,
: I think.
: Any ideas will be appreciated.
You can also get the floppy images onto the harddrive using
windows. Then just install from its own harddrive.
Peter
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard disks in Linux
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:17:05 -0400
Dave Skinner wrote:
> I'm getting a new computer which I want to run Linux on. Are there any problems
>with hard disk sizes under Linux. Can I set up a 50GB Linux partition or are there
>any restrictions I should know about?
>
> Regards
> Dave Skinner
>
> _____________________________________________________________
> Want a new web-based email account ? ---> http://www.firstlinux.net
IIRC, the maximum partition size is 4 Terabytes. You may not want to do that, though.
Have you a backup device that can conveniently back up 50GB? It is my understanding
that most people do not make their
partitions larger than their backup media, although many backup schemes could handle
that with multiple tapes. BRU can handle it. It may not be able to handle a file
bigger than a backup medium though.
Maximum file size on 32 bit machines is 2Gigabytes, IIRC.
I got 2 9.1 Gigabyte drives on this machine instead of one 18 GB drive. This way I can
overlap IO and seeks, etc, and get more buffering in the drives themselves. They are
on an Ultra-2 SCSI controller. My
tape drive is on a separate SCSI controller
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 3:12pm up 31 days, 22:39, 4 users, load average: 3.61, 3.56, 3.21
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From: David E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 4track recording software for linux
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:27:42 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shane Kelly wrote:
> Hello,
> a while ago I saw a package for Linux that acted as a 4track studio for
> home recording. I think it was open source, but I can't find it any
I think it was 'broadcast'. I still have source code for broadcast 2.1 in my
home directory. Haven't used it much, though.
--
========================================================================
David E. Fox Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk.
=======================================================================
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: # of maximum outstanding disk IO's
Date: 9 Sep 2000 19:18:56 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Hog Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: We are doing some performance testing of disk storage on different
: platforms, and I was wondering if Linux has a maximum number of IO's that
: can be outstanding at any given time. Translated, if the storage device is
: busy and the h/w queue is full, how many IO's will Linux queue up waiting
And what do you mean by "an io".
: for the storage device to be available again.
Your question is vague. Why not use the correct terms instead of baby
talk!
The kernel has a hard limit NR_REQUEST of how many block requests it
will queue on a block device at a time. There is a 2-1 split preserved
in favour of reads against writes on that queue too. But each driver
code independently can take requests off that kernel queue as fast as it
likes, and pass it to the driven device as fast as it likes. And the
kernel limit is changeable by simply changing the constant value and
recompiling (as I recall, the default kernel limit is 64, but go check).
And the size of each block request is variable too. The kernel can and
does aggregate adjacent - or even nonadjacent - requests into one
according to rules defined by the individual drivers. This happens as
requests are passed to the driver queue.
So I don't grok what you mean. Look at ll_rw_blk.c. All will become
plain. Or at least part will ...
Peter
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From: jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:27:57 +0100
Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Linux is currently the only end-user system alternative to windows on
>>a PC (IBM compatible in older terminology). Of course you also have
>>Mac-OS.
>
>Don't care much for OS/2 or BeOS, do you? Well, BeOS may not be viable
>in the long term, but OS/2 will be around for years to come.
>
IBM has stopped its development and no further versions will be issued. I=
t may
remain around for years to come, just like Atari-TOS is still around. But=
you
would not advise anybody to take it as a viable alternative, would you ?
--=20
jabali
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From: jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:32:07 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Linux is currently the only end-user system alternative to windows on =
a PC=20
>> (IBM compatible in older terminology). Of course you also have Mac-OS.
>
>And what about BeOS? Or Net/open/FreeBSD? Or Hurd?
>(OK, Hurd's not ready yet, but I here it sorta works ish).
BeOS & FreeBSD are around for years. As OS they are certainly good. But a=
s an
alternative desktop to Windows - well, does anybody really take them that
seriously ?
--=20
jabali
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From: jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:00:09 +0100
"Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>and a majority (altough not much more than 50%) is running *Apache*, tha=
ts
>not the same as running Linux!
>
That is certainly true. Many must be running various other flavours of Un=
ix.
However, the recent explosion of the number of the webservers has been ma=
de
possible by the availability of Linux without cost. I would guess majorit=
y of
these webservers using apache are running linux as well.=20
--=20
jabali
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File sychronizing tool, performance graph tool
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:34:19 GMT
"Ronald Holzloehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) I need a tool to synchronize files between my computer at work and at
> home. It should work like this: I give it a list of files/directories
> that are present on both machines and to be sync'ed. Upon connection
> (56k modem), the utility compares modification times for each listed
> file and updates whichever is older. I looked at cvs, but don't like it
> very much for this purpose (some of my files are pretty big, I don't
> like having to 'commit' all the time, some of the files are binary and
> don't like cvs tags etc. etc.) Any ideas?
Use rsync. If it isn't in your distribution, look at
http://rsync.samba.org.
It only works one direction at a time, so if you want to pick the newest
on each system you have to run it twice.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard disks in Linux
Date: 9 Sep 2000 19:33:01 GMT
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dave Skinner wrote:
:> I'm getting a new computer which I want to run Linux on. Are there
:> any problems with hard disk sizes under Linux. Can I set up a 50GB
:> Linux partition or are there any restrictions I should know about?
: IIRC, the maximum partition size is 4 Terabytes. You may not want to
: do that, though. Have you a backup device that can conveniently back up
: 50GB? It is my understanding that most people do not make their :
: partitions larger than their backup media, although many backup schemes
An excellent rule that needs to be emphasised.
: be able to handle a file bigger than a backup medium though. : Maximum
: file size on 32 bit machines is 2Gigabytes, IIRC.
And for that reason I conscientiously refuse to make a partition bigger
than 2GB (well .. a few people have coaxed a 4GB partition out of me).
I have met a file bigger than 2GB and I do not wish to meet one again.
: I got 2 9.1 Gigabyte drives on this machine instead of one 18 GB
: drive. This way I can overlap IO and seeks, etc, and get more buffering
: in the drives themselves. They are on an Ultra-2 SCSI controller. My :
This is also an excellent strategy. I really hate it when my single
backup medium burns itself up! I always prefer two halfsize to one
fullsize.
: tape drive is on a separate SCSI controller
Peter
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logged into KDE desktop as root
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:48:42 -0500
test wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a new Linux user, so I'm probably making some new user type error.
>
> Logged into the KDE desktop as root on Caldera eServer 2.3, I can browse
> through the various folders of files and utilities, but it won't let me
> launch anything.
>
Describe your problem more clearly and don't assume so much. Are you
attempting to run apps by clicking on them while in Kfm, or are you
saying that when you follow the menu structure to an app and click on
it, it won't run?
Are you trying to run apps as root because you couldn't fire them as a
user?
jlk
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From: "Yannick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:50:44 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
8pb86k$vr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:G99u5.6898$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
>
> > This has been done for power users (see Debian), but not yet (or
> > not adequately) for end-users.
>
> "power users" ARE end-users.
>
> I think that "neophytes" is a better term for you misuse of the term
> "end-user".
>
IMHO, there is a wide gap between power users and neophytes.
That's why the different terminologies exist, in fact. You have
the neophytes ("newbies"), the "average" user, and the power-user,
all three being specialisations of the class "end-user".
Yannick.
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie with ZIP
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:53:34 GMT
Hi guys,
I'm having a little problem with my SCSI Zip drive, when I have ZIP=20
floppies that are FAT I'm OK to r/w on them, but I need to also be able =
to at least read those that are HPFS, an if in the future I format some =
with EXT2, I wold also like to access them withou the need to edit the=20
FSTAB and MTAB files
How can I do that so when I mount it it will detect which format to read=
=20
?
Thank you in advance
Merci a l'avance
Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: How to delete -ash
Date: 9 Sep 2000 19:54:14 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry OGrady)
writes:
>How can I delete a file called -ash?
>When I try rm treats the file name as parameters.
I'll give another option
rm ./-ash
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WWW page building/management apps for Linux?
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:57:50 -0500
MH wrote:
>
> Are there any easy to use WWW page building and site management apps for
> Linux? Anything roughly equivalent to FrontPage? If not, what tools
> are generally used for this function?
>
> I've done some preliminary searches on this subject and the only thing I
> came up with was Amaya (which I thought was a browser) and IBM
> Websphere, which is probably overkill for my needs and likely has a
> steep learning curve.
>
> TIA
>
Is there! Try Quanta+: http://quanta.sourceforge.net
It's free and run on KDE. You can see it at my website:
http://www.jlkreps.net/howImadethewebpage.html
Here is another website I wrote with it:
http://www.jlkreps.net/acts/index.html
Uploading to your website is a couple of clicks and a password.
JLK
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Subject: Re: The Government's Decision to Use Microsoft
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:00:02 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' If you want to disable all buffer overflow exploits, run on a machine
' where the program stack increases upwards!
Better would be to use a language that uses dynamic arrays (growable
buffers) or fgets instead of gets for *all* reads.
In this day and age, there is no excuse for being able to overflow a
buffer. A modern langauge should either grow the buffer or throw an
exception when more data than expected is read.
--
David Steuber | "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member
NRA Member | of the NRA?" --- HUAC, 2004
Happiness is a SAAB Gripen <http://www.gripen.saab.se/> in the
garage, an FN-FAL in the safe, and an HK P7M8 on the hip.
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