Linux-Misc Digest #826, Volume #25               Thu, 21 Sep 00 15:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What kind of Editor/Browser to read *.sgml files? (Josef Oswald)
  Re: gnapster 1.3.5 (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: SCSI tape problems (-ljl-)
  Re: HELP:  Printing Problem (Bob Martin)
  Re: linux screws up windoze filesystem ? (The Darkener)
  Ethernet interface problem ("Chakravarthy Sannedhi")
  Re: Disk Druid (Bob Martin)
  Re: S3 virge DX (Martijn Brouwer)
  Re: What kind of Editor/Browser to read *.sgml files? (Josef Oswald)
  Re: Linux in Win9X partition? (John Culleton)
  Re: Encyppt whole Linux system ? (Chang-Han Jong)
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Tony Tribelli)
  Re: Linux in Win9X partition? (Josef Oswald)
  Re: shutting down a process at shutdown (Ralph Churchill)
  Re: SCSI tape problems (Malte Starostik)
  Re: Wierd things happen with makewhatis.... ("David ..")

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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What kind of Editor/Browser to read *.sgml files?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:13:19 GMT

You need to get sgml-tools, if you have Xemacs ( or emacs) on your Linux then
you could view those files.... I used it before...

Ulrich Brachvogel schrieb:

> Hi,
> maybe a dumb question: but I couldn't find anything about the sgml-format.
> NetScape / StarOffice refuse to read or  give only text inclusive tags.
> TIA TTFN
> // <( )
> //    \______//
> //     \____/    Ulrich Brachvogel
> //       / \     "Save The Curlew!"

Josef Oswald
--
-Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have bugs
only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third Millennium?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: gnapster 1.3.5
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:25:02 GMT

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:54:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[opennap servers with gnapster]

>
>One of the options is "use development opennap servers". I tried half a
>dozen of them. I get "unknown fatal error". When I don't use the option,
>it just keeps "finding the best server"


when you enter the IP and the port of the opennap-servers, you need to make
sure that yo don't have any extra white spaces in there, which leads to this
error. Maybe the cause.

-Jan


-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

Got Mole problems?  Call Avogadro at 6.02 x 10^23.

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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI tape problems
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:18:37 GMT

In article <8qdgfa$btv$17$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Malte Starostik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've got a problem with a SCSI tape (ARCHIVE Python 04106-XXX Rev:
> 7350).
> After some (random) amount of uptime, any communication with the drive
> fails until after the next power cycle.

By any chance is 'st' a loadable module, and is it being unloaded?

cat /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
...
# If a SCSI tape has been detected, load the st module unconditionally
# since many SCSI tapes don't deal well with st being loaded and
unloaded
...

This is from TurboLinux (a Red Hat derivative) with which I'm using
a Python autoloader, no problems.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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Before you buy.

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP:  Printing Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:31:30 -0500

Matthew Lybanon wrote:
> 
> First, the context:
> Linux Mandrake 7.0, 2.2.14-15mdk
> i686 processor
> 
> For some time I've been wrestling with a printing problem.  Every time
> I send a file to the printer, there is a message saying there is no
> daemon present.  It is necessary (with root privileges) to stop and
> restart /etc/lpd.  Then printing takes place normally, but I have to do
> it again the next time.
> 
> I had this problem before.  It was cured (apparently) when I found that
> the IP address of one of the printers in the /etc/hosts file was
> incorrect.  Putting in the right numbers made printing normal (and also
> made startup faster).
> 
> But after a reboot the "no daemon present" problem returned.  The hosts
> file has the correct IP addresses, so the problem is somewhere else.
> 
> I can log in as root or a different user, and the problem is still
> there.  Whatever it is, it is not local to my user account.  I normally
> use Gnome, but switching to KDE makes no difference.
> 
> Our overworked systems manager is at a loss.  If anyone can suggest a
> place to start looking, it would be a great help.  The problem is just a
> nuisance; it doesn't prevent me from printing altogether.  But it would
> be good to find the source of the problem.
> 
> --
>  =================================================================
>  | Matthew Lybanon                     | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
>  | Mapping, Charting, & Geodesy Branch |                         |
>  | Naval Research Laboratory           | (228) 688-5576          |
>  | Stennis Space Center, MS 39529      | (228) 688-4853 (fax)    |
>  | USA                                 |                         |
>  =================================================================

The times I have seen this is when the printcap file has errors. run 'ps
-aux' and check for lpd,  I found two lpd processes running. One was a
fork that was trying to check an errouneous entry in printcap, killed it
and things could print again, but of course rebooting starts the problem
again. I used the RH printtool to cleanup printcap ( I had an entry that
I had not finished setting up that was causing the problem ). Also make
sure the directories in /var/spool/lpd coreespond to printcap entries.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux screws up windoze filesystem ?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:33:42 GMT

I know that windows doesn't like filenames (Fat or vfat) with more than 1
(one) period in it.  The file you mentioned before (kernel v2.4.0-test8) would
get garbled.  I've figured this out with trying to dl linux specific files on
windows systems, it tries to replace the extra periods with underscores, and
never seems to like it later on for some reason.

Dunno, just a thought..

"Florian E.J. Fruth" wrote:

> Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
>
> > In article <8qdb87$ld2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Florian E.J. Fruth  <fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de> wrote:
> > >Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
> > >
> > >[cut]
> > >
> > >> One thing you do wrong is that you give the file a name that does not
> > >> fit into what the specification of the file system on the Windows
> > >> partition thinks is legal. Don't do that.
> > >
> > >don't think so - it's nearly with every filename (e.g. "kernel
> > >v2.4.0-test8" or isn't this a correct filename?
> >
> >
> > No, it's an illegal FAT32 file name. When using FAT32 you may only
> > have 8+3 letters in the file name (see below though).
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> You might also have mounted it as having the wrong file system type.
> > >> What does Windows say about the file system type of the partition?
> > >
> > >what do u mean exacly with this ?
> > >it's fat32 on a 45gb harddisk...
> > >fejf
> >
> >
> > From the Filesystem HOWTO:
> >
> > Windows 95/98 and Windows NT/2000 store long filenames on FAT
> > in special directory entries with set attributes ReadOnly,
> > Hidden, System and Volume, so if you access FAT volume from
> > DOS you don't see these "files". These special entries have
> > this mad structure:
> >
> > byte              sequence number for slot
> > string(10)        first 5 characters in name
> > byte              attribute byte
> > byte              always 0
> > byte              checksum for 8.3 alias
> > string(12)        6 more characters in name
> > word              starting cluster number, 0 in long slots
> > string(4)         last 2 characters in name
> >
> > Problem occur when you delete or modify file with long name
> > from system without VFAT support, because only DOS 8+3 entry
> > will be deleted or modified. Scandisk from Windows 95/98 can
> > repair this problem.
> >
> >
> > /A
>
> but with vfat linux should support long filenames, or ?
> so it shouldn't be a problem on (re-)naming a file to more than 8.3 ?
> fejf
>
> --
> Words u don't want to hear from your sysadmin:
> Ooops. Save your work - FAST !

--
- The Darkener
It is pitch black.  You are likely to be eaten by a grue.



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From: "Chakravarthy Sannedhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet interface problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:36:20 -0500

I am using the Redhat linux for a particular project. I had problem whenever
i reboot my machine. Whenever i reboot the two ethernet interface cards
(eth0 and eth1) on my machine are becoming inactive. So all the time i am
doing the following course to make them active.
System -> Control Panel -> Networking configuration
after that i am pressing the Interfaces tab and making them acive and then
quit.
Is there any permanent solution to get around this problem. What is the
command i could use. How come they could be default active?

Thanks in advance
Chakravarthy K Sannedhi



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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk Druid
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:43:37 -0500

Oleksandr Bozhyk wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> How can I run Disk Druid in Red Hat 6.2 (in order to add a new
> partition) ?
> SY,
> Oleksandr Bozhyk

DiskDruid is only available during installation. just use fdisk
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: S3 virge DX
Date: 21 Sep 2000 18:44:07 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Wilson Smith) wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>    Newest S3 Virge DX cards no longer work with any version of Xfree86.
>    What cheap video card (for server) should I be using.

What do you mean with 'newest'? My virge dx works properly with the svga 
server.


_____________________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer          [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What kind of Editor/Browser to read *.sgml files?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:46:47 GMT

Hi:-)

You can get sgml-tools at: http:pobox.com/~cg/sgmltools

Ulrich Brachvogel schrieb:

> Hi,
> maybe a dumb question: but I couldn't find anything about the sgml-format.
> NetScape / StarOffice refuse to read or  give only text inclusive tags.
> TIA TTFN
> // <( )
> //    \______//
> //     \____/    Ulrich Brachvogel
> //       / \     "Save The Curlew!"

--
-Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have bugs
only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third Millennium?



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From: John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in Win9X partition?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:35:53 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> John Culleton schrieb:
>
> > I remember reading somewhere that it was possible to install Linux
in a
> > Win9X partition and boot it from there.
> >
>
> Correct :-)
>
> Linux-Mandrake for windows
>
>
> here is more:
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/lnx4win.php3
>
>
> > John Culleton
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> --
> -

Thanks. Unfortunately the reference you cite puts me in an endless loop.
The page you cite only points one back to a more general page, which has
a reference to lnx4win, which takes me to another page about lyx4win,
wich has a page reference for download that takes me back to the
original page cited above and so on.

This is not for myself, I have separate partitions, but for a friend on
another mailing list who is Win95-bound and needs to use Lyx. The other
solution is to download cygwin and emulate X-Windows on her Win95
system. I did suggest repartioning but not everyone is technically savvy
enough to pull this off.

Any Mandrake lurkers, if you know the solution to the endless loop on
hte Mandrake site please respond. I'm a Slackware guy myself.

John Culleton


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From: Chang-Han Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Encyppt whole Linux system ?
Date: 21 Sep 2000 18:52:22 GMT

In tw.bbs.comp.linux Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am developing a product that base on Linux box. Is there any method
> that can
> encypt the whole file system that cannot be read by someone who have
> access
> the machine physically.
> At least, I don't want people use other system boot up the machine and
> mount the Linux system.
> Many thanks for any help!!
> Dicky
There are some crypto-filesystem.
you can search for them.
-- 
        Chang-Han Jong , Distributed System and Network Security Lab.,
             Dep. of Computer Science & Information Engineering,
              National Chiao-Tung University, Hsin-Chu, Taiwan
           ����� ��q�j�Ǹ�T�u�{�Ǩt �������t�λP�����w������� 
     mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~chjong 

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Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
From: Tony Tribelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:54:38 GMT

John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Topic: OS/2 and IBM and MS]

> Now, the joint agreement for the project allowed each company
> access to each other's code, so Microsoft used IBM's Presentation
> Manager code to develop their own GUI user interface for Windows
> (Program Manager) that had significantly lower hardware
> requirements than OS/2 (also less capable, but that's another
> story).  They then used their exclusive MS-DOS licensing
> arrangements with manufacturers to tie Windows to DOS and force
> manufacturers to bundle Windows with their PC's.  Meanwhile, MS
> kept delaying in their own applications projects for OS/2.
> Needless to say, IBM was not pleased with this and felt Microsoft
> was diverting resources that should have been used for the OS/2
> projects to Windows instead and thereby undercutting IBM's
> potential revenues from the project.

I think MS was far more supportive of OS/2 than you suggest, at least
initially. I recall viewing video tapes of a 1987 (?) MS Developer
Conference and MS was making it perfectly clear that OS/2 with Presentation
Manager (PM) was the future. Windows 3.0 was discussed briefly and described
as a bridge for non-power users to get from DOS to OS/2 PM. Power users were
advised to go straight to OS/2 PM.

> To make a long story short, the OS/2 joint project fell apart in
> 1989 when IBM wanted to make OS/2 fully 32-bit while Microsoft
> insisted on keeping it 16-bit ...

I thought MS initially wanted OS/2 to be 32-bit but IBM didn't want to
exclude PC/AT systems?

Also, I thought that two parallel OS/2 projects were started. IBM would do
one and MS the other. The IBM project would be released first and it would
be 32-bit and Intel x86 specific. The MS project would be the next major
release after that and it would be CPU portable, support SMP, ... All those
NT "buzzwords". 

> ... The companies parted ways, but
> the divorce left IBM with access to the Windows v3.x source code
> and Microsoft with license revenues for copies of Windows bundled
> with OS/2 and for the HPFS filesystem.  Microsoft later went on
> to develop their own 32-bit operating system (Windows NT v3.1 --
> what happened to v1, you may ask?  Ask the MS Marketing Dept.)
> using OS/2 code jointly delevoped in the earlier project.

It was called 3.1 to match the 16-bit Windows 3.1. The two were remarkably
alike in terms of user interface. Microsoft also went through a stage where
everything had the same version numbers. The development tools had some big
jumps due to this.

The rumors are that WinNT was previously known as OS/2 NT, and before that
OS/2 3.0. Recall the parallel projects, IBM's 2.0 being the 32-bit x86
specific, MS's 3.0 being the CPU portable 3.0.

Tony


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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in Win9X partition?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:55:38 GMT



John Culleton schrieb:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > John Culleton schrieb:
> >
> > > I remember reading somewhere that it was possible to install Linux
> in a
> > > Win9X partition and boot it from there.
> > >
> >
> > Correct :-)
> >
> > Linux-Mandrake for windows
> >
> >
> > here is more:
> > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/lnx4win.php3
> >
> >
> > > John Culleton
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > --
> > -
>
> Thanks. Unfortunately the reference you cite puts me in an endless loop.

oops :-(

Sorry forgot to point out that one needs to get Mandrake 7.1 in order to use
it.....


>
> The page you cite only points one back to a more general page, which has
> a reference to lnx4win, which takes me to another page about lyx4win,
> wich has a page reference for download that takes me back to the
> original page cited above and so on.
>
> This is not for myself, I have separate partitions, but for a friend on
> another mailing list who is Win95-bound and needs to use Lyx. The other
> solution is to download cygwin and emulate X-Windows on her Win95
> system. I did suggest repartioning but not everyone is technically savvy
> enough to pull this off.
>
> Any Mandrake lurkers, if you know the solution to the endless loop on
> hte Mandrake site please respond. I'm a Slackware guy myself.
>
> John Culleton
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Josef Oswald   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
registered-linux-user # 13.818 at http://counter.li.org
--
-Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have bugs
only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third Millennium?



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From: Ralph Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutting down a process at shutdown
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:45:41 GMT


>
> You only need these:
>
> ./rc3.d/S99oracle
> ./rc4.d/S99oracle
> ./rc5.d/S99oracle
>
> ./rc3.d/K01oracle
> ./rc4.d/K01oracle
> ./rc5.d/K01oracle
>
> No need for the links in rc[0126].d
> It works like this: all the S... links are run when you enter the
runlevel
> and the K... links are run when you leave it. So if you've got the
above
> links, /etc/rc.d/init.d/oracle start is called when you enter runlevel
3, 4
> or 5 and /etc/rc.d/init.d/oracle stop is called when you leave that
> runlevel and there is no S..oracle link in the dir for the runlevel
you
> switch to (like 0 or 6)
> -Malte
>


That doesn't seem to work... why is httpd set up with a kill script in 0
and 6?

RMC


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From: Malte Starostik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI tape problems
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:57:19 +0200

-ljl- wrote:

> In article <8qdgfa$btv$17$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> By any chance is 'st' a loadable module, and is it being unloaded?
> 
> cat /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
> ...
> # If a SCSI tape has been detected, load the st module unconditionally
> # since many SCSI tapes don't deal well with st being loaded and
> unloaded
> ...
> 
> This is from TurboLinux (a Red Hat derivative) with which I'm using
> a Python autoloader, no problems.
> --
> Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
Thanks alot, I'll check that,
-Malte


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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wierd things happen with makewhatis....
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:52:04 -0500

Dave Barcelo wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>     I have a RH6.2 system and whenever makewhatis gets run I get this
> error:
> [root@daffy /usr/sbin]# ./makewhatis
> /dev/zzy/file6: paths must precede expression
> Usage: /dev/zzy/file6 [path...] [expression]
> 
> Can someone shed some light?

Have you tried using makewhatis from root instead of from within
/usr/sbin
Or maybe use "slocate" instead of makewhatis

[root@daffy]#   /usr/sbin/makewhatis
Or:             slocate -u

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