Linux-Misc Digest #826, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 17:13:18 EST
Contents:
Re: gcc vs egcs (Frans Gumpu Slothouber)
Newbie help with Linux, IBM PS/2 30-286 (Seven)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Grant Edwards)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Darin Johnson)
Re: Move linux to new motherboard ? (David Kirkpatrick)
Which files?? (Ian Dunross)
Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!! (Mark)
Re: [Q] Bogo mips shrinked!? (Frank Hale)
Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up? (Robert Heller)
Re: Porting WinNT applications to Linux (Andreas Mohr)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (John Doe)
Linux Firewalling Article submissions (Rob)
Re: Shutdown (Chris Lott)
Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? (Clifton Koch)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Justin The
Cynical)
Re: Network time problem revisited... (John Thompson)
[Q] Bogo mips shrinked!? (Jinhyok Heo)
Re: Newbie help with Linux, IBM PS/2 30-286 (Eoin)
Re: Help, Kernel too big ("Wael Sedky")
Re: Linux RedHat 5.2 or SuSE 5.3 ? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: WHERE IS REDHAT???? (N. Richard Caldwell)
Re: Trouble with 2.2 kernel (Frank Hale)
Re: Linux-installation ("Richard Ames")
need ftp example files for RedHat ftp (Daddy Rabbit)
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From: Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc vs egcs
Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:57:06 GMT
Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dean wrote:
:>
:> Dave Brown wrote:
:>
:> > I've noticed that the latest Slackwares seem to want to install egcs
:> > instead of gcc. Is there any difference in compatibility between things
:> > compiled with one vs other? Can the same libraries be used regardless
:>
:> Another question. How do I compile c++ with egcs?
: With egcs, if you don't have a link g++ that poinst to egcs make one.
: I haven't tested the C++ stuff yet with egcs but I know for a fact that
: g++ isn't worth much. Create too many virtual functions and g++ will
: create fixed address in never never land to guarantee a core dump.
: One thing I read about egcs is that it is more ansi compliant than gcc
: which is not.
It's better, but you will have a more hard time compiling a new kernel.
You will have to apply a patch to solve a bug in the kernel source
code that is a problem for egcs and not for gcc.
After that it works fine though.
Have fun,
Frans.
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/Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
\___/\ GalaxyNG Game Master. http://gumpu.student.utwente.nl/~galaxyng
/ \/
Implementation: The fruitless struggle by the talented and underpaid to
fulfill promises made by the rich and ignorant.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seven)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Newbie help with Linux, IBM PS/2 30-286
Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:05:55 GMT
Hello to all.
A friend of mine gave me a Caldera OpenLinux 1.3 CD. He is insisting that
I check out Linux as it is the future. I recently had a friend give me a
IBM PS/2 model 30-286 PC and I wish to run Linux on this. In case you
don't know or remember the specs of this ancient box, it has a 20 MB hard
drive. I know Linux cannot run on a 286, however I have a chance to
purchase an IBM PS/2 M30-286 Motherboard Upgrade w/486/66 and 8MB RAM.
What I want to know is if this upgrade would be worth it to do as the hard
drive is still only 20MB? I think the minimal installation for Linux is
10MB and that you can't do squat with that. So how much better would 20MB
be for Linux? If not, what hard drive would work in there and how much
storage would I need to "get my hands dirty" with Linux? Or is it
even worth it?
Also, I would like to network this computer with my Dell Dimension XPS
R350 as my friend is telling me that I should learn the networking
capabilities of Linux. Does the motherboard upgrade have an ISA slot for
an Ethernet card?
Finally, if I DO go this route, how would I install the CD onto the IBM
PS/2 (no CD-ROM drive)? Can I copy the files onto floppies and then
install? If so, which files would that be?
I guess I am looking for advice on what to do as much as what NOT to do.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:53:06 GMT
Gabor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: That is utterly ridiculous, IMHO. The capitalization isn't random, it
: signifies the beginning of a new sentence. Why use punctuation, by
: your rationalization, it's also a bad idea.
andusingwhitespacetoseparatewordsisobviouslyamajorwasteofbothtiemanddiskspace
--
Grant Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:53:44 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> And if you're an idiot, being
> American only makes you an AMERICAN idiot. Which we have our fair share of.
Yep. We in America produce the world's best idiots!
--
Darin Johnson
"Look here. There's a crop circle in my ficus!" -- The Tick
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Move linux to new motherboard ?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:15:13 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What about a problem with different busses? Also what about boards
with different non-cpu type support chips on the motherboard. When
I did slackware compiles a while ago they queried for support chip sets?
d
Rob wrote:
> Any issues moving an existing Linux install from one machine to another by
> simply moving the HD, Video Card, and NIC's ? Currently running RH 5.2 want
> to use a different board and processor than the one i originally installed
> it one. Actually I want to moved it from my P200 to a P100 system.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Dunross)
Subject: Which files??
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:07:57 GMT
I've got the bandwidth and drive space to download the Red Hat 5.2
distribution. But which directories to d/l??
I don't need the sources. I am going to use
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/.
As best I can tell I need to d/l:
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/RedHat/*.*
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/dosutils/*.*
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/images/*.*
at the minimum, yes? That's according to the following phrase I came
accross, if I infer correctly:
"If you are mirroring to a partition or an NFS volume, you'll need to
get everything under RedHat, as well as the disk images from images
that you need for your system."
[Relevant FTP site description quote follows]
This directory is organized as follows:
/mnt/redhat
|----> RedHat
|----> RPMS -- binary packages
|----> base -- small filesystem setup archives
|----> instimage -- image used for graphical installs
|----> images -- boot and ramdisk images
[ ... ]
|----> dosutils -- installation utilities for DOS
[I'm d/l this ^ as well, to create the 2-disk boot set needed--for an
install from a hardisk partition--with rawrite.exe.]
|----> doc -- various FAQs and HOWTOs
|----> misc -- source files, install trees
|----> live -- live filesystem
|----> COPYING -- copyright information
|----> README -- this file
|----> RPM-PGP-KEY -- PGP signature for packages from Red
Hat
[As far as I can surmise, these ^ are optional, and listed in the
order of greater precedence??]
If you are mirroring to a partition or an NFS volume, you'll need to
get everything under RedHat, as well as the disk images from images
that you need for your system.
--
Much obliged
Ian Dunross
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From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!!
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:38:38 -0500
Jeremy Ellman wrote:
> [snip]
>
> I've finally (after several weeks fixed this one) thanks to some kind soul.
> It seems that Linux (or at least Red Hat 5.1) uses the same interrupts for
> /dev/cua0 (DOS COM1) typically your mouse,
> and /dev/cua2 (COM3 -- usually the modem).
>
> The way to check this is by using SETSERIAL. This will both report and
> change the irq used. If this is your problem
> you need to find an unused interrupt and use this for the modem.
>
> Jeremy
This isn't a problem with Linux or WinBlows. It's part of the IBM hardware
spec. It's been this way since the very first IBM PC, and yes, it's damned
frustrating. I have a UPS connected through serial port 1, and a modem
as serial port 2. Therefore, I must use a PS/2 mouse, which used the key-
board hardware instead of the serial connection.
--
Mark
When you reply, make sure to remove the obvious from the address.
"I am a friend of the Penguin."
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: [Q] Bogo mips shrinked!?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:32:08 GMT
Andy Mulhearn wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jinhyok Heo wrote:
> >Hi~ all.
> >
> >
> >And also `dmesg|grep Bogo' shows :
> > -------------
> > Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 28.67 BogoMIPS
>
> I found that if I turned off BIOS caching - I think that was it
> but can't check as I'm using it at present - the BogoMIPS value
> for my 133Mhz Zenith dropped from 53.04 to about what you're
> seeing. May be worth a look,
>
> Andy
Hey I got my PII 266 to 272.79 damn 28.67 sux.
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Website: http://www.franksstuff.com/
"I say line-ux you say lynn-ux,
whats the difference? Its still better than windows"
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Subject: Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 11:48:25 -0500
Rod Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 30 Jan 1999 06:35:05 GMT, wrote :
RB> This is a new phenomenon for me. I start netscape, and it runs -
RB> somewhere - but it never materializes on the desktop. Not until I dial
RB> up does it show up on as a window. I'm not using diald, if that makes a
RB> difference. This is a real pain in the butt. If I just want to view an
RB> html file via netscape, it seems I must dial up first. Can anyone help
RB> me here?
What page is netscape set to display on startup? By default, netscape (as
distributed from Netscape's site) is set to display
'http://home.netscape.com' on startup. If this is what is set up
(or if it is set to display anything off your local computer and out on
the net somewhere), then netscape on startup tries to make an internet
connection, but with your dialup network connection down, it "hangs"
while waiting on a DNS query. If you wait long enough the DNS query
will time out (how long that is depends on what your /etc/resolv.conf
looks like -- it will check *each* name server in turn and time out on
each).
The fix is easy:
Fire up your dial up connection (to make netscape initially happy).
Fire up netscape.
Select Edit->Preferences and then under 'Navigator' in the 'Browser
starts with' section select the button labeled 'Blank page'.
The next time you start netscape, it won't even try to go out on the net
when it starts. Be sure to cleanly exit netscape to be sure your
preferences file is updated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Mohr)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Porting WinNT applications to Linux
Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:36:41 GMT
Dennis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Has anyone taken an application written in C++ (Builder perhaps) and
> ported to the Linux operating system with a GUI? If so, what were the
> biggest problems you had doing this, and would you offer any
> suggestions?
> Thank you for any helpful information.
-> www.winehq.com
--
Andreas Mohr
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From: John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:44:29 -0800
I heard he had a daughter. the clone must have had a sex-change
operation before being born.
Steve wrote:
>
> In article <78kn71$5rp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Mr S A Penny) wrote:
> >In article <78jdfb$na6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>>Did you hear that the Bill's are having an affair? <g> -steve
> >>
> >>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
> >
> >then how did he become a father?
>
> Cloning.
>
> Steve Jolly
>
> ----------------
> To reply by email, remove "nospam" from email address.
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From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Firewalling Article submissions
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:40:54 GMT
Group,
I have been running Linux for a little over a year and have been
using ipfwadm as a primary means of packet filtering for a majority
of the time. I am writing an article for a security magazine that
deals specifically with "Linux Firewalling" and I have chosen to
focus on ipfwadm as the leading method and I have used the
following criteria to make my decision:
1. Stability
2. Ease of administarion
3. Accounting
4. Scalability
What I would like to know is:
1. Has anyone had any adverse affects by using ipfwadm or
have they implemented another solution (even commercial
solutions) that have been more beneficial?
2. What factors do you think would contribute to convincing
a non-Linux user to migrate to or setup an initial firewall
usuing ipfwadm? In other words, "Why Linux?" or "Why Linux firewalling?"
3. Has anyone used ipfwadm on a large scale (50+ nodes behind the wall)
and can add to the discussion in relation to performance and/or
performance
degradation?
4. Has anyone compromised a network or host using ipfwadm without
having shell access to the machine it is implemented on?
5. If an administrator was setting up an intial firewall/Internet
access solution, what other factors would he/she want to take into
account in respect to:
a. Running a network with only one translated IP address on an
interface and assigning publicly available IP addressing schemes
on the internal network (NAT) described in rfc1700?
1. Using ipmasquerade and ipfwadm? Pifalls? Benefits?
Same machine?
2. What sort of proxy are you using and how does it
conflict/compliment your firewall solution?
b. Running a network where all nodes behind the wall had
their own IP address that is located in a global routing
table either routing themselves or with their provider:
1. Which protocols and/or ports have they found to be the
most targeted for scans/intrusion attempts?
c. Allowed ICMP packets and/or traceroute packets accross the
network? Reasons for denying or allowing?
d. What sort of internal security threats have you experienced
in relation to abuse/misuse/accidental misuse by your own users?
e. Incorporating other network/system products to compliment your
firewall solution? Router based filtering/access lists?
Intrusion detection/alert products?
I understand that each solution is different for every type of
network/system architechture and for the services that the netowork
provides, but any input would be greatly appreciated.
I am trying to avoid looking like I am on a crusade for Linux,
but think that through very careful examination and explantion
through this article, I can enlighten some future users on the benfits
of using Linux as a viable business solution.
If you have any feedback or would like to submit any references you have
either created or found on the net, please reply to this message or
send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any information that I feel applies to my article will be included and
the author will be recognized by name and/or URL. I can also get a
couple
of copies of the magazine for you.
Thanks again.
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All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal.
Therefore, all men are Socrates.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lott)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:25:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:46:15 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fhurqaan Hamid wrote:
>>
>> How about the three finger salute.
>
>If you want to risk loosing stuff and watch the fsck program run when
>the computer reboots, go ahead.
To protect yourself from yourself, it would be best to set up inittab to
trap ctrl-alt-delete as shutdown -r now anyway.
c
--
Chris Lott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifton Koch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: 29 Jan 99 15:49:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carlos Wexler) writes:
>In article <78lt32$k99$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Stephen Costaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I haven't really looked into this (I'm only at 768MB on the systems I have
>>here). But as I understand the problem it is to do with the 32bit processors
>>in the intel line. They can only address 4GB of memory max, that being 4GB
>>of RAM, or a combination of swap & RAM that equals 4GB.
>>
>>Assuming the above is correct (Any kernel people here want to comment on this?)
>>You might be able to get the memory you want when running Linux on an Alpha
>>or Ultra Sparc processor.
>>
>For some reason that I don't remember I believe that the 32 bits, although
>theoretically capable of addressing 4GB, can only really address 2GB. But
>shouldn't this be actually 2G"words" (32 or 64 bits wide?)
32 bits is able to address a total of 4G _bytes_. The width of the external
bus or internal registers has nothing to do with the addressing size because
you still have to be able to address down to individual bytes.
Cliff
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Cliff Koch
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Division
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin The Cynical)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:52:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:36:09 GMT, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->In article <78kn71$5rp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mr S A Penny) wrote:
->>In article <78jdfb$na6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
->> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
->>>>Did you hear that the Bill's are having an affair? <g> -steve
->>>
->>>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
->>
->>then how did he become a father?
->
->Cloning.
Or would that be 'code forking'?
--
"I just went visual on this goofy looking Finn riding on a gnu,
wielding one pissed off penguin... gah"
- Bob The Sane
Justin The Cynical - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network time problem revisited...
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:15:55 -0600
Villy Kruse wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have found a time server I can run on my OS/2 machine
> >(rhino_house) that linux can talk to. This is good. I am
> >seeing some unusual behavior when I try rdate to synchronize
> >the clock, though. Specifically, rdate sees the time as
> >exectly one hour later than the time server reports.
> >Observe:
> >
>
> Guess that time server is not that good after all. The time server is
> supposed to return UTC time in seconds since 1900 (not 1970 like other
> unix times). Then your linux rdate program will ajust the returned
> time stamp for the timezone by adding exactly one hour to get from
> UTC to CET, where the clock is one hour ahead of UTC.
OK. Thanks. Any ideas on how to fix it? Tweak the timezone settings on
one or the other machine?
- John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jinhyok Heo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: [Q] Bogo mips shrinked!?
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:48:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi~ all.
I'm running RedHat 5.1 on the IBM Thinkpad 560.
My TP560 is pentium 133.
According to Bogomips mini howto, bogo mips of p133 is around 53.??.
But my `cat /proc/cpuinfo' shows like:
-------------
processor : 0
cpu : 586
model : Pentium 75+
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
stepping : 12
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : yes
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid : yes
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8
bogomips : 28.67
-------------
And also `dmesg|grep Bogo' shows :
-------------
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 28.67 BogoMIPS
-------------
My bogo mips is about half of what it should be. :-(
I feel it has become a bit slow.
Well, I remember that my bogo mips *was* around `53'.
But I don't know when it changed.
New kernel configuration, old `vmlinuz', or things like that
doesn't help.
Could you tell me what kinds of possibility I have?
Thanks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eoin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie help with Linux, IBM PS/2 30-286
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:24:57 GMT
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:45:48 -0500, "Charles Sullivan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If memory serves, the IBM PS/2 uses the microchannel bus, which is
>not supported by Linux.
>
Model 30s are not Microchannel.
--Eoin
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:09:09 -0800
>/usr/src/linux/arch/YOUR_ARCHETECTURE/boot/zimage
I follow the book blindly:
cd /usr/include
rm -rf linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
rm -rf asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper
make config or make menuconfig
.......
.....
.......
make dep
make clean
make zImage
mv vmlinux /
cd /etc
joe lilo.conf
*****edit lilo.conf*******
save it
lilo
*******get the Kernel too big error**********
*******rush to the newsgroup for help*******
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RedHat 5.2 or SuSE 5.3 ?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:17:23 -0600
Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano wrote:
>
> Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> > This is a religious question but I'll tell you what my faith is: SuSE
> > 5.3
<snip>
>
> I can't agree completely with your "religious comments" about the ease
> of use. Linux is DIFFICULT to install & configure, but once it is
> running one will quickly forget the limitations of M$ systems. The
> problem IS getting it to run correctly (no matter if you use SuSe or RH,
> I use RH).
> RH also includes KDE 1.0 in his latest contrib tree (already with rpm
> support) and insalling the GUI is a breeze, and quite easy, too. RH5.2
> includes Linuxconf, which (I am told) is quite similar to YaST and
> manages everything, from filesystems to ppp connection. Moreover the
> package administration program "glint" is easy to use and pretty
> powerful.
> If you really are concerned about the installation I would wait until
> the SuSE 6.0 is available (with english manuals, the german edition is
> already there). It promises to be the easiest linux around.
>
> - Fabrizio
That's why I added the "religious" modifier. My first distro was
RH5.0. It installed and ran without a hitch. Then I installed RH 5.1,
then RH 5.2 (on several machines for friends) but I haven't used RH
5.3. My commments about the ease of use of SuSE come after having run
the RH distros and the SuSE 5.3. SuSE 5.3 is *MUCH* smoother and easier
the modify (even when considering Linuxconf, which I've run, Glint which
I've run and which I have on SuSE also, and Xrpm, a nice front end to
rpm). SuSE is well integrated in that adding or removing a package
causes all menus on all Xwindow clients to be updated and all
environmental variables, .profile, boot.local, etc., to be modified as
required. All with a few clicks of the mouse.
It is a very comfortable "Windows" front end for those migrating from
M$. They can maintain their work proficiency without a steep learning
curve (on preinstalled systems, just like Windows come). Then they can
dig to what ever depth of understanding they desire. Using YaST keeps
them out of trouble.
IMHO. (I told you it was a religious question! :-)
Jerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N. Richard Caldwell)
Subject: Re: WHERE IS REDHAT????
Date: 30 Jan 1999 18:27:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin A.) wrote:
>
>>Been trying to connect to www.redhat.com for some time now. Anyone know
>>where it went? For the last day or two...
>>
>>Could it be traffic from people trying to get the new kernel?
>>
>>-K-
>They are moving offices and moving the servers. It appears they will
>be down for a couple of days.
When your web page is your primary support channel and you're starting
to make noises about "Enterprise support" just turning your web site
off for a couple of days while you move your office doesn't seem like
a good approach to me. Obviously there are ways they could have gotten
around this but just shutting down for two days looks amateurish.
--
N. Richard Caldwell
Lucent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with 2.2 kernel
Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:45:20 GMT
Shaygetz wrote:
> This is slightly off the topic,
How is this off topic? comp.os.linux.misc seems to me we can talk about
anything linux in here since its "misc", which can mean alot of
different things.
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Website: http://www.franksstuff.com/
"I say line-ux you say lynn-ux,
whats the difference? Its still better than windows"
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From: "Richard Ames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-installation
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:40:49 +1100
Leif K�ldahl wrote in message <78vqv8$6ek$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello.
>I have a problem.
>I wanna install linux on my computer. I have the RedHat-CD's.
>So what's the problem ?
>On my computer i have Windows98 installed, and i wanna keep it that way.
You can do this.
Do
>i have to make separat partitions for w98 and linux ?
Yes. The RedHat book contains the details on how to do this. You need to
move your files to the front of the disk (use defrag). Then repartition
using the tool using fips, on the CD look in the directory
/dosutils/fipsdocs. Read the instructions and cautions BEFORE proceeding.
Can i do it some other
>way ? I have so much stuff on my computer it would take days to copy all my
>files to floppy. Is there some OS-manager i can use?
I understand Partition Magic works....
>Can someone give me advice?
>Leif K�ldahl, Stockholm, Sweden
>
>
Richard Ames
Sydney, Australia
linsup.com
We sell and support free Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daddy Rabbit)
Subject: need ftp example files for RedHat ftp
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:41:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm wanting to create a secure ftp site using RedHat 5.2. ftp works
pretty well straight out of the box but there is not much in the way
of examples for creating a secure ftp site. I would like to limit
files to employees during the day and open it up to the internet
during no-working hours. I do not want users to upload files though.
If you have some well commented ftp conf file I could use as examples,
I would appreciate it a great deal.
TIA
Jim
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