Linux-Misc Digest #977, Volume #25                Sun, 8 Oct 00 08:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  SPD problem at booting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Modem configuartion. (fred smith)
  Re: RH 7 BASH problem (Fester)
  shutdown vs halt ("J.Smith")
  can linux use sleep keys etc. on keyboards?  (Cevat Ustun)
  Re: trouble with partitions (Steve Holdoway)
  Re: FS: REDHAT LINUX (Steve Holdoway)
  Re: shutdown vs halt ("Ez-Aton")
  Re: shutdown vs halt (Flotsam)
  Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP (ray)
  Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO?? (Martin Herrman)
  Color Blindness ("Dave Fawthrop")
  Re: newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO?? ("philo")
  Re: Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO?? (Martin Herrman)
  Hidden partiion?>? (Kyle Parfrey)
  Re: renaming mount points (Jean-David Beyer)
  alsa problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SPD problem at booting
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 07:08:02 GMT

I have both redhat 6.1 and windows 98 operating sys . on my
PC.
For the few days while booting I get a Warning message:"SPD not found at
DIMM(s) 2". I want to know what this is all about ? How to solve the
problem?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem configuartion.
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:45:57 GMT

Collin Borrlewyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Okay, the 100% newbie here, and time for those stupid questions I promised.

: First a short story. I am attampting to move to Linux from (you guessed it!)
: windows. I've already made a list of what I need to move without losing
: productivity. 
<snip>
: Anyway, to make a short story truely short, the modem didn't work. The error
: kppp gave me is "Modem busy". I went and read a chunk of a modem HOWTO, read
: through most of the documentation for isapnp and some for setserial, and
: have come to one really stunning conclusion: If I can make it work without
: learning that much detail, I want to. So, my exact question, without much
: technical detail, is: Is there any way to make the configuring of my modem
: easy enough that I do not need to devote a weekend to learning how to
: manually configure everything? And, if it's not possible, is there anything
: anyone can reccomend to get me to the details I need, and skip a few of the
: ones I'm not likely to?

Collin:

Without meaning to be rude, I can honestly say: If you intend to use
your computer without having to learn much about it then you're 
certainly in the wrong place! If that is the case, then Windoze (as bad
as it is) is your friend. when something blows up you can just reinstall
everything without needing to know why it blew up.

OTOH, if you want to be able to benefit from the power of a Unix-like
system you're destined to be a perpetual learner because while the surface
isn't as pretty as Windoze, it goes much, much, much deeper!

OK, to your problem. Firstly, if it's a Plug'n'Pray modem, read its docs
to see if there is ANY way to turn off the PnP nonsense and hardwire it
to a specific address/IRQ. If so, setit as COM3/IRQ5 or some other
combination that's not in use on your system (sometimes a sound card or
a network card will usurp IRQ5, then you'll have to either find another
IRQ for the modem, or adjust one of those other ones to free up IRQ5).
If you can't disable PnP, then you've got to wade through isapnp. I've
used it a couple of times successfully for sound cards, unsuccessfully
for network cards, and never tried for a modem, though it should be
possible to make a modem work using it. Another possibilty is to wait a
little longer for a dist.  that comes with a 2.4.x kernel. I understand
that Plug'n'Pray is built into 2.4 and actually works! so you won't need
isapnptools any more.

Once you have set it to COMx and IRQn, if it's not a standad COM1 or
COM2 setting, you'll need to use the setserial command to tell the kernel
what the actual parameters are. Here's an excerpt from my /etc/rc.d/rc.local
file:

        setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 
        stty < /dev/ttyS2 -ixon -ixoff -ixany crtscts

This tells the kernel (in the first line) that there is a serial port
on COM3 (/dev/ttyS2) and it is using IRQ 5. The second line sets some
default parameters for that port: disabled xon/xoff flow control, 
enables hardware (i.e., RTS/CTS) flow control.

Having accomplished all this, now do "ls -l /dev/modem". /dev/modem is a
link to one of the serial ports, and it should point to the serial port
that is now your modem. If it doesn't, do:

        rm /dev/modem
        ln -s /dev/ttySx /dev/modem

where /dev/ttySx is the serial port that represents your modem.

"man setserial" is your friend. There may also be additional docs under
/usr/doc (or /usr/share/doc if you've got RH 7.0). There are for sure
docs there for isapnp. Also the man pages for 'isapnp', 'isapnp.conf',
and 'pnpdump' will be helpful, if you haven't already found them.

Good luck!

Fred


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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
   "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged 
   sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; 
              it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."  
============================ Hebrews 4:12 (niv) ==============================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: RH 7 BASH problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 07:46:25 GMT

I saw ss rant about the following:
>ok I just upgraded to RH 7.  How do I tell bash to look in /sbin for
>commands?  I want to edit my search path but just can't figure out how.

edit ~/.bashrc and look for the PATH= line.

-- 
-- Fester
   "And Dream dreams of the future. Progress dreams of clean.
    And Stress only dreams about stress, all over everything." 
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: shutdown vs halt
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:04:22 +0100

Just a quick question about the shutdown and halt commands. I used to think
that the shutdown command did a nice, clean shutdown, but that the halt
command did just 'halt' the system, right there on the spot, just as surely
and deadly as if I would have unplugged the power cable. No syncing of
disks, no stopping of services, no nuttin.

At least that is the way it works on some of the commercial *nix'es I have
worked with so far. So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean shutdown
anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
Mandrake? Or am I seeing things wrong here?


Thanks.



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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can linux use sleep keys etc. on keyboards? 
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 08:35:14 GMT

It would be really useful to be able
to invoke say an apm command through
one of the keys. Any pointers as to how
to program them? 

Cev.

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From: Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trouble with partitions
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 10:39:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Go to the www.ibm.com and download a program called zap.This trashes
all of your partition information, and you can then perform a clean
install of whatever you want. 

Put this on a dos boot floppy along with fdisk and format, and you'll
have no problems.

Steve.
PS. I did have problems with a Fujitsu laptop, which then thought the
disk was locked after this process. I had to partition and format he
disk on another system before I could use it again!


On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 04:56:00 GMT, brashier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>In my newbie wisdom, I thought to use an older pc only as a linux
>machine. That's right, I completely deleted ALL the DOS partitions! Now
>about 2 years later, I want to use the machine for something else and I
>cannot undo my error.
>
>The pc is running a basic version of redhat 5.2, (no peripherals, or
>added apps) and the only utilities I have are the linux fdisk, and disk
>druid. I want to reload the original os (w/95) and then go from there.
>Any suggestions?
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


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From: Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FS: REDHAT LINUX
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 10:46:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmmm...

I'm sure I downloaded my copy of 6.2EE off the net for free.

Steve

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From: "Ez-Aton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:58:29 +0200

Shutdown changes runlevel to 1 and then to 6.
hult changes right ot 6.

No great difference there. You can do it manually, buy typing 'init 6' as
root.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ez,

"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:WTVD5.12002$tL4.197043@zonnet-reader-1...
> Just a quick question about the shutdown and halt commands. I used to
think
> that the shutdown command did a nice, clean shutdown, but that the halt
> command did just 'halt' the system, right there on the spot, just as
surely
> and deadly as if I would have unplugged the power cable. No syncing of
> disks, no stopping of services, no nuttin.
>
> At least that is the way it works on some of the commercial *nix'es I have
> worked with so far. So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean
shutdown
> anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
> Mandrake? Or am I seeing things wrong here?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flotsam)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 09:17:29 GMT

On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:04:22 +0100, J.Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just a quick question about the shutdown and halt commands. I used to think
>that the shutdown command did a nice, clean shutdown, but that the halt
>command did just 'halt' the system, right there on the spot, just as surely
>and deadly as if I would have unplugged the power cable. No syncing of
>disks, no stopping of services, no nuttin.


> So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean shutdown
>anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
>Mandrake? 

No.  This is precisely explained in the first _tiny_ paragraph
of the man page.

....]$ man halt


8-))


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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 09:53:39 GMT

James wrote:

> Arg, linux newbie here with some problems setting up my cable modem with
> dhcp.  I have Mandrake 7.1.  I type in "netconf" which takes me to the
> network configurator.  In "Basic Host Info" there is a "hostname +
> domain" entry which is set to "localhost.localdomain".
> Under the "adapter1" tab is the following info:
> net device: eth0
> kernel module: 3c509
> irq: 10
> ip: my ip
> the dhcp radio button is selected
>
> When I close out of netconf and tell is to activate changes I get an
> error.  Here it is:
>
> Executing /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S10network reload:
>     > Bringing up device eth0 Determining IP information for eth0 via
> dhcp...faile
>     > [FAILED]
>
> And that's that.  No internet connection.  I've already read a couple of
> how-to's (especially cable modem, dhcp mini-howto, and the ethernet
> howto) and they didn't help.
>
> I have a 3com Etherlink III (3c509B)
>
> Any help is appreciated!  Getting frustrated and wanting to switch back
> to Winblowz.
>
> James L

    I use RedHat, Mandrake "was" very tightly based on it. I have a 3C905
and cable modem.
Here, what makes the connection to the DHCP server and gets the information
needed is a utility named pump. Like this: pump -i eth0. After that pump -s
will reveal a lot of interesting stuff. An lsmod will show if the eth
drivers are loaded. If they are, pump should cause furious blinking on the
modem, for maybe 3 seconds, while information transfers to you. Your
/etc/resolv.conf will have been re-written after this, with the DNS IP's
filled in.

--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 11:58:39 +0200

Hi all there!

I would like to make my own small linux distribution that fits on a single
floppy to burn cd's on a windows machine that contains the cd (re)writer.
So I want to put a kernel, modules, fat32 support, mount,umount,cdrecord,
mkisofs,sox,mpg123 and maybe irqtune and hdparm in it. But how to start?!?
I have the following questions:

1. how to make an img file just like the boot.img in popular distributions?
2. how to load kernel etc (startup scripts)? Use syslinux? Or lilo?
3. use ext2 or fat12 (syslinux) fs on the floppy?
4. how to create the programs with libraries etc.? Just compile the programs
   on my desktop and copy them to a directory together with the library files?
5. is there anyone in here that knows some docs about this?
6. or is there anyone that has already did this before? There are a lot mini
   distributions on the net, but i can't find any docs :-(


much thanks in advance!!

Martin


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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
11:50am up 18:31, 3 users, load average: 0.74, 0.29, 0.15
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: "Dave Fawthrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Color Blindness
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:13:19 +0100
Reply-To: "Dave Fawthrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi

I am upgrading my VDUGlasses page, see sig, to include a section on Colour
blindness.

The section at the moment reads:

>>>
Color Blindness
Color Blindness also known as Color Vision Deficiency is quite common
affects about 8% of Caucasian males and 2% of females.  It comes in many
forms depending on which colors you cannot see.  There are also variations
in the severity of the problem, so giving specific instructions on a web
page is a bad idea.
If you are using Windows, there are good tools available to allow you to
change your desktop to your personal requirements.   Go to start ->
settings -> Control Panel -> Display -> appearance, and click around the
existing Schemes.  Find one which suits you.
If you have no color vision at all, or if you really get stuck, try Start ->
Settings -> Control Panel -> Display -> appearance -> High Contrast White.
There are Large and Extra Large versions of this for those with poor vision.
These should be readable by anyone, because most things are black or grey on
a white ground.
If you are on a different operating system, click around looking for
something similar.
<<<

Would anyone care to contribute an equivalent section for Linux.

Reply by email please, or I will search Deja.com for my name next weekend.

--
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Computer Hyphenation Ltd, Hyphen House, 8 Cooper Grove, Halifax HX3 7RF, UK,
Tel/F/A +44(0)1274 691092. M: +44(0)7720455248, *2000 15th Anniversary Year*
Hyphenologist is sold as C source code and splits 50 languages.
Also: VDU Glasses, Wordlists FAQ, Celtic Spiral Font, Bradford Curry Project




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie: How to send a .gz file as attachment?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:05:30 +0100

Bob Tennent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:25:25 +0300, Oguz wrote:
>  >
>  >Anyway, can somebody tell me how I can send .gz file as attachment?
>  >
> Install nail, a version of mail that allows attachments:

> http://omnibus.ruf.uni-freiburg.de/~gritter/archive/nail/nail-9.22.tar

Even ELM has attachment functionality now!

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From: "philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO??
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:34:43 -0500

why don't you take an existing small distro such as pygmy linux and just
modify it to suit your needs...
however what you want to do sounds like more than you could do one one
floppy...i would think it an interesting challenge.
since you are going to using this with windows...
perhaps you could just use a fat12 floppy put the image one it plus whatever
else you could fit...then use loadlin.
Philo
btw: i hope you get additional posts as i would not know how to implement
what you propose all one one floppy



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Making my own single floppy distribution: HOWTO??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:51:13 +0200

On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:34:43 -0500, philo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why don't you take an existing small distro such as pygmy linux and just
> modify it to suit your needs...

hm.. and how big would it be then? I want the minimum of the minimum :-)

And i want to know how it all works.

> however what you want to do sounds like more than you could do one one
> floppy...i would think it an interesting challenge.

well, an image can contain 4 mb of data so i think it should be
possible. The image file will be 'unzipped' and put into a ramdisk.

> since you are going to using this with windows...

no! No windows for me :-) That's what i'm trying to avoid. The machine
i am now burning my cd's on is my dad's one and he uses windows. I want
to burn my cd's with linux so I got the idea to make a single boot floppy,
just like toms rescue boot disk for example.

> perhaps you could just use a fat12 floppy put the image one it plus whatever
> else you could fit...then use loadlin.
> Philo
> btw: i hope you get additional posts as i would not know how to implement
> what you propose all one one floppy

yep, that's my big problem: how about dependencies? Should I just compile
the necesary programs on my desktop, copy all files to a directory together
with needed libraries? (libraries can be found with 'ldd <pathToExecutable>'?)
And howto make an img file? Much questions, i want some answers :-)

thanks for your reply!

Martin

-- 
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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
1:40pm up 20:21, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hidden partiion?>?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 11:57:18 GMT

Mandrake 7.1 has made my win98 partition "hidden" (as seen from cfdisk)
and now win won't boot. How do I unhide a partition, and would this be
the problem anyhow????

Thanks,

Kyle

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: renaming mount points
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 07:57:18 -0400

Neil Zanella wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A while ago I used to have Win98 on my /dev/hda1 which of course
> used a FAT (FAT32 to be precise) file system. After booting just
> a few times into Win98 I was staring to experience more and more
> crashes and more and more missing .vxd files, corrupted files,
> illegal operations performed by program etc... until I got really
> sick of it and formatted C:. But unfortunately I still have a few
> devices that need to run under Windows until support for them is
> available under Linux. So I installed Win2K which has not crashed
> so far and uses NTFS (no more DOS). While Linux still feels much
> faster and richer with application and networking functionality
> as well as support for different platforms I think that Win2K
> is an improvement over Win98 although it's still a little too
> slow and there's too much GUI overhead.
>
> Anyway, back to my question. I now have a /dos mount point for
> /dev/hda1 left over from Win98. /dos seems to be the conventional
> and preferred name for a mount point for a FAT partition. But
> now I don't have any DOS there any more and I would like to
> rename my mount point /nt or something like that (any suggestions?)
> but I remember last time I renamed a mount point I created some
> havoc somehow. So, how can I rename /dos without messing things
> up? (BTW, everything works fine except that I don't like calling
> an ntfs dos when it's not).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil

If I understand you correctly, you want to just change the name of the
mount point? I.e., change its name from /dos to /nt?

I think it suffices to umount /dos; rm /dos; touch /nt and then diddle
your /etc/fstab to tell the truth about /ns and remove the stuff about
/dos. When all that is done, you might do mount /nt. Since I have no
Microsoft stuff on this machine, I cannot try it out.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: alsa problem
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 05:05:16 -0700

Hello all,
Could someone please help me i have been fighting with this for the last
week..... I have a cmi8330 card, i can get it all installed, and hear
the speakers come online, but when i pull up the mixer i don't have a
master volume. I have tried unmute on what is there, but no sound. I
don't know what to do. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
in advance.  KNE


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