Linux-Misc Digest #977, Volume #27 Tue, 29 May 01 14:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Cluster Supercomputing Conference June 13-14 (ann walle)
Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group (Bill Unruh)
Re: Problems with transfering files from win to linux (Frank Ranner)
Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Diez)
Re: Collection of tarballs (Ravi Ambros Wallau)
Mandrake-8.0 and SRPMS? (Ish Rattan)
routing ("Martin Greco")
Re: Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple ("Maximus Idius2")
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Gareth Jones)
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Gareth Jones)
Re: Move a partition up (Ester Ahoodem)
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Gareth Jones)
Re: Turn off the warning message ("gajo")
Re: How to start an executable??? ("gajo")
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Gareth Jones)
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? ("Martin.Knoblauch")
Re: How to start an executable??? ("Jay")
Help! Hardware or software error? ("B.Y.")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ann walle)
Subject: Cluster Supercomputing Conference June 13-14
Date: 29 May 2001 09:05:35 -0700
NEW DIRECTIONS IN CLUSTER SUPERCOMPUTING
Convened by: American Museum of Natural History in collaboration with
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Ames Research Center,
Office of Fundamental Biology Program)
Wednesday and Thursday, June 13 and 14, 2001
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024
Registration fee: $10
Over the last ten years, parallel supercomputer machines have come to
prominence in computation. Research areas such as astrophysics and
genomics generate huge data sets of immense complexity. Only this new
computing paradigm can give the scientific research community the
computational power to make sense of the flood of data these fields
present.
Over two days, the diverse industries that make up this community will
gather to discuss the effect of supercomputing on biology,
astrophysics, and research, as well as air traffic, finance and the
entertainment world.
In addition to AMNH and NASA Ames, IT professionals and scientists
from Celera, The Dogma Project, IBM, National Cancer Institute,
National Center for Supercomputing Applications, Stanford University
and Brigham Young University and will be speaking on a diverse range
of topics.
Sponsored by: Compaq
For a full agenda, or to register, click here
http://www.amnh.org/supercomputing/?src=CSCL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group
Date: 29 May 2001 16:10:23 GMT
In <9f05jj$ajt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I got triggered by your question, and went looking for it,
]I always considered it an annoying RedHat thing, but it does make some
]sense.
]http://www.europe.redhat.com/documentation/rhl6.1/ref-guide-en/s1-sysadmin-u
]sr-grps.php3
No, it makes no sense at all. The sgid bit setting files to the group of the
directory is not Redhat, it is ancient unix (I had it on Sunos 4.x 20 years ago).
But that has nothing to do with assigning each user to their own group. which makes
no sense at all. The user id is precisely what that is for. The group id is for
groups the user belongs to. Groups mean groups, not individuals.
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From: Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with transfering files from win to linux
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:00:04 +1000
gajo wrote:
>
> I have downloaded a 6 Mb large file. The file is a Linux RPM, but I don't have
>internet access on my
> linux machine, so I had to download it to windows. The only way to transfer this
>file is through
> floppy disks, and how can I do this? Should I split the file into 3 smaller ones,
>but how will I put
> them together when they're on my linux machine?
>
> Csaba
Copy the 3 parts onto floppies giving each a distinct name like part1,
part2, part3. On the Linux box, use mcopy to copy the 3 parts onto your
linux box. Or use the floppy icon to mount the floppy and drag the files
over to your home directory. Got them all? OK now 'cat part1 part2 part3
> whatever.rpm' and you are done. Do an 'rpm -qilp whatever.rpm' to confirm that the
>file is whole again. To install, you need to 'su', enter your root password and then
>'rpm -i whatever.rpm'
How do you split the file in the first place? Download one of the many
file splitting dos utilities. I like the split program, which is part of
the GNU textutils available from simtel mirrors.
By the way, although you haven't networked the Windows PC and the Linux
PC, you could still link them with a null modem cable through the serial
ports. You can then use Windows Terminal program to send the file using
the z-modem protocol to Linux's minicom program. Not fast, but probably
no slower than stuffing around with floppies.
Regards, Frank Ranner
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Diez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:18:05 +0200
ok, that was my fault.
thx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ravi Ambros Wallau)
Subject: Re: Collection of tarballs
Date: 29 May 2001 09:38:09 -0700
linuxberg is the only example that I can remember.
Why don't you want to use RPM? Do you want the source code and compile
it by your self?
If U don't know what you really want (or you know what you want to do,
but don't know what software can do it), then you can use linuxberg or
some search tool to make this job.
Hope it works... Buy some magazines, they always have cool CD's with
lots of programs.
"Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za> wrote in message
news:<3b134d6a$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I know it's possible to find rpm's using rpmfind.net
>
> Is there a similar place for tarballs? (tar.gz/bz2)?
>
> I know about sourceforge, but they don't have the standard packages included
> with linux systems, e.g. : crond, apache, at, etc.
>
> Anyone knows of such a place?
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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake-8.0 and SRPMS?
Date: 29 May 2001 12:58:02 -0500
Hello:
I have two questions.
1. What is the glibc version under this systen glibc5/22/21?
2. SRPMS provided are a collection of patches. Does it imply that one
has to get the source (eg. kernel sources) and then patch it with the
given patches?
Thanks in advance,
- ishwar
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From: "Martin Greco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: routing
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:11:45 -0300
Hi
Imagine I have two computers one with linux and one with win98 and they are
linked with a crossover pathcord.
The linux box connects to internet via modem, it has squid proxy server that
allows the win98 machine to browse internet.
I would like to know how I can do to give connectivity to the win98 machine
without squid so I can use any internet service.
I tried with the route command, but I am on the wrong way! :)
Thanks for helping...
--
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Martin Greco
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From: "Maximus Idius2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 01:50:29 +0900
"Allen Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f0f62$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am considering a matrox AGB card but I need to know the VGA character
> modes supported. All cards support 80x25, but what else do the Matrox
> cards support? Older Matrox cards would support 50x140 and stuff like
that.
>
> TIA
>
probably you want to say AGP card. The Matrox G400 32mb is cheap now,
especially if you can find a used one. The Matrox is good enough; I have one
old PCI 16mb, and can have resolution at 1024x768 for my monitor.
Even the newer GeForce 2GTS is recognized with RH 7.1 with range up to 64mb.
Cheers,
SN
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:15:15 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> What's the linux variant for the groupware features - shared
>> calendaring, global address books available offline etc.?
>
>I've never understood what this is all about. Can't these windows
>people share files? Don't they have email lists? news groups?
>web/mail/news gateways? Hypermail?
Yeah, but what has any of that got to do with it?
>(BTW, netscape comes with some calendar thing that I've never known
>what it is for, so that might be what you are meaning).
No.
Gareth
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:22:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake) wrote:
>On Fri, 25 May 2001 14:38:23 +0200, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I've never understood what this is all about. Can't these windows
>>people share files? Don't they have email lists? news groups?
>
>It's about providing point-and-drool functionality for lusers who have
>worked with PCs for 10 or 15 years and *still* couldn't copy a file
>to save their sorry rear ends, even *with* a GUI.
I'm afraid you are talking out of your arse.
For many large organisations calendaring and mobile address books are
pretty important functionality. There are only really two (possibly
three) possible pieces of commercial software that can do this well
(exchange, lotus notes, and the soon to be dead openmail from hp).
There is, AFAIK, no decent opensource software that can provide the
required functionality.
My company runs email services for a number of small businesses. We
use opensource software (linux, sendmail and uwimap) exclusively for
this service. One of the most frequent requests we get is for the
features mentioned above. I don't yet have a solution. Sure, we can
use openldap to provide an addressbook, but that doesn't help users
who want to compose emails on the road (and hence - offline). As for
calendaring, there are a number of php based calendar programs, but
none are easy to use offline..unless you know better?
Gareth
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From: Ester Ahoodem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move a partition up
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:30:07 -0000
I realize that this is a problem and wish I hadn't partitioned it so, but
at the time I had little choice because I needed the 8gig portion to be at
the top since my system wouldn't recognize space beyond it. This is not
necessary now and I really need 40gigs of contiguous space.
Anyway is there really no way that the partition can be translated upward
block by block? Any idea if Partition Magic might do this? Or some other
tool?
If there is definitely no way to do the translation then I'll resort to
backing up and/or shrinking and moving as suggested.
Thanks again.
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:32:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's the linux variant for the groupware features
>
>what's that?
The features (for example, in Exchange, or in Lotus Notes), that allow
a user to maintain a calendar, share that calendar with various other
users (e.g. a PA), and have it available when they are offline too.
The features that allow address books to be maintained centrally, but
also made available offline.
>> shared calendaring, global address books available offline etc.?
>
>If you want something that can keep your appointment, why you don't
>use an LDAP server? There are various LDAP available for Linux.
That's a little bit like someone saying "I need an inventory
management system" and someone else saying "what about mysql?". An
LDAP server might well be the best backend for a groupware app, but
the backend is only part of the solution. You need to define your
schema, and either write clients, or, preferably, provide a way for
people to integrate with the service using their existing client.
It is pretty easy to use ldap to provide an addressbook that can be
used from most email clients. I don't know of any email client that
can cache an ldap addressbook offline though...there is always ACAP,
but that is only supported by a couple of clients.
For calendaring? There are some standard formats for calendaring
information floating around (ical and vcal), suggesting that in the
future an opensource equivalent to microsoft's proprietory system
might be possible. They are very poorly represented though in terms of
actual software.
Gareth
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn off the warning message
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:16:03 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> > I'm still learning linux so I'm almost always loging in as root, and this
>message is annoying
> > cause
> >>
> >> Well don't! You can't learn linux by running as root! Use sudo. You'll
> >> find it solves your problem.
>
> > OK, how do I log in as sudo? Should I create a new account? What parameters should
>I set for
that
>
> You don't log in as sudo. It's a tool, not a user account.
>
> > account (could you tell me step-by-step, cause I read man login and didn't figure
>it out)
>
> Well try reading "man sudo" instead, which would seem to be the more
> natural option!
man sudo does not exists (at least in RH 6). Could you tell me how to use sudo, cause
I've been
searching the HOWTOs and FAQs for two hours now and have found nothing yet...
Also, if I type in "sudo" nothing happens, that is I get an error message
Csaba
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start an executable???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:14:28 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > OK, when I write /usr/tictac/tictac, usr/games/tictac or ./tictac I get the
>following message:
> > bash: /usr/tictac/tictac: Cannot execute binary file
>
> This seems to say that you are executing a script, and the script calls
> something that doesn't exist. Please do
>
> file /usr/tictac/tictac
>
> and show us the result.
the result is:
/usr/tictac/tictac: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC)
I have no idea what this means.. :)
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:38:31 GMT
Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jumping in here (and I am a -devoted- Linux user/administrator...) If
>there ever became a drop in replacement for the Calendaring feature of
>Exchange that was open source, I would have more business replacing
>Exchange than I ever could do... All of the admins that I know would
>toss out Exchange in a minute and replace the email with (insert mail
>transport of choice here...), but their users are literally hooked (and
>for good reason... as I was in management in a previous life, and know
>the power of the group scheduling in Exchange...) on the Calendar, not to
>say that a large number sync to palm-type devices...
I agree fully - these are the features, above all, that sell Exchange
(and Lotus Notes). Duplicating them in an opensource product would
cause MS a *serious* problem.
>It is mainly the condescending attitude (which I have to be also careful
>about...) that anyone who uses Windows is a putz...
IMO this is the worst aspect of the linux phenomenon. I have used &
supported MS products and Linux for quite some time, and can see that
a huge amount of what gets said in linux newsgroups about MS is simply
incorrect. Likewise there is a certain macho culture that implies
anyone who can't do their daily job from a bash terminal is a luser.
This is just crap....sure, a techie is prepared to have a more
difficult to use system because it gives him more power and
flexibility, but an executive doesn't give a flying toss about that,
he wants his PA to put a meeting in his diary, he wants to see that
entry when he is on his flight, and he doesn't want to think about how
it got there. If exchange gives him that, he'll sign the order for an
exchange server.
Gareth
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From: "Martin.Knoblauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:41:23 +0200
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Gareth Jones wrote:
>
>
> For many large organisations calendaring and mobile address books are
> pretty important functionality. There are only really two (possibly
> three) possible pieces of commercial software that can do this well
> (exchange, lotus notes, and the soon to be dead openmail from hp).
> There is, AFAIK, no decent opensource software that can provide the
> required functionality.
>
amen. If only Lotus would see the light and port their client to Linux.
As they do with the server already. Me feeling is they could actually
hurt M$ pretty hard that way. Besides the lack of a decent, 100% M$
compatible, office suite (no, don't even mention StarOffice), the lack
of the collaboration tools ist the major roadblock to Linux on the
desktop. At least for a lot of businesses.
Martin
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start an executable???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:46:01 GMT
Did you change the file permission of tictac? # chmod u+x tictac or # chmod
+x tictac
"gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:9ev36l$7gi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> OK, I have unpacked a game named tictac into usr/tictac. After installing
the game just as its
> manual said (make, make install) I had the compiled game files in
usr/tictac and another executable
> in usr/games. My guess was that I should start the game by running the one
in the games directory.
> OK, I've tried the following:
> - double-click on it from File Manager
> - write "tictac"
> - write "./tictac"
> - run it from File Launcher
> ... and I've tried this with both executables (in usr/tictac and
usr/games).
>
> What am I missing here?
>
> Csaba
>
>
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From: "B.Y." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Help! Hardware or software error?
Date: 29 May 2001 17:52:25 GMT
Can someone tap me with a clue stick and point the way. before I open the
box and tamper with my hardware I would like to know that this is not a
software problem.
OS: Linux 2.2.17, Red Hat 6.2 stock with all updates installed.
Using IPCHAINS to do NAT.
Machine: dual PIII/550 [Katmai], 512MB,
Microstar MS-6120N <440BX chipset> motherboard
lspci of the PCI bus:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0e.0 SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c895 (rev 0
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine 10/100] (re
00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)
00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: 3DLabs GLINT R3 (rev 01)
Other hardware: 18 GB U2W SCSI hard drive [Fujitsu]
Toshiba 16x SCSI CD-Rom
Yamaha 16x6x4x CD-RW
Original routing table:
default is eth0
eth1 to 10.0.0.0 with netmask 255.0.0.0
eth1 no longer connects; attempt to deactivate and activate it emits this:
route: netmask doesn't match route address
Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>] List kernel routing tables
route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF.
route {-h|--help} [<AF>] Detailed usage syntax for specified
AF.
route {-V|--version} Display version/author and exit.
-v, --verbose be verbose
-n, --numeric dont resolve names
-N, --symbolic resolve hardware names
-e, --extend display other/more information
-F, --fib display Forwarding Information Base (default)
-C, --cache display routing cache instead of FIB
<AF>=Use '-A <af>' or '--<af>' Default: inet
List of possible address families (which support routing):
inet (DARPA Internet) inet6 (IPv6) ax25 (AMPR AX.25)
netrom (AMPR NET/ROM) ipx (Novell IPX) ddp (Appletalk DDP)
output of route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
210.58.244.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
10.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default 1.c210-58-244.e 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
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