Linux-Misc Digest #51, Volume #26 Mon, 16 Oct 00 15:13:01 EDT
Contents:
CD-ROM not workin'! Is it because it has Linux? ("Wan_Be")
Re: How to run a program at startup? ("Garry Knight")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Garry Knight")
Re: What is a good graphical mail client? ("Garry Knight")
Re: XFree 4.0 ("Garry Knight")
Re: Linux file burned onto CDR from Win98 machine (Rod Smith)
Re: Embedded linux: syncronizing system time w/o onboard HW clock (dpace)
Q: High Availability Solutions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
file management questions (andi smart)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Andrew J. Perrin)
Re: alsa problem (Jerry McBride)
Unable to load interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
people "cdrecord"ing on Linux, help please! (Minya Liang)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Grant Edwards)
Re: file management questions (Leejay Wu)
file is *really* tough to delete (Jim Schlemmer)
wu-ftpd question (Sergey Grishin)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jan Schaumann)
RH7.0 w/Iopener pseudo-hang. (Gary Wolfe)
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From: "Wan_Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD-ROM not workin'! Is it because it has Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:16:51 GMT
I bought a brand new IBM Thinkpad 390X 2626 F0U on 5/10/2000 with Windows
98. I dual boot it with Linux, currently it has Mandrake 7.1 that I seldom
boot Windows 98. I just found out that the CD-ROM drive has been working
intermittently, sometimes it spin and most of the time don't spin at all. I
called IBM technical support I mentioned I have it dual boot. It's under
warranty but if they will receive the laptop for repair and has Linux in it
that will VOID the warranty and I'll be charged $200 for the repair.
If the CD-ROM is intermittently working, does it matter if I boot it with
Windows 98 or Linux?
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to run a program at startup?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:16:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8sd2ls$ui0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to have my linux system run a particular
> program whenever I start up the computer?
You can call it at the end of your rc.local file. Where that is depends
on which distro you're running. In Redhat-based distros it's
/etc/rc.d/rc.local.
--
Garry Knight
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:16:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Dustin
Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another possibility is to use HTML for true portability, but most
> publishing houses will not support that.
Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
pretty well. It just depends on how tricky you want to get with using
text frames and so on. And, of course, the WP needs to have a good font
substitution algorithm. But I believe RTF to be the most portable text
format (apart from plain text, that is...).
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Garry Knight
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,linux.debian.www
Subject: Re: What is a good graphical mail client?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:16:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8scons$b9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tom Huckstep"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a decent graphical mail program for Linux,
> which supports POP3 and SMTP?
Evolution http://www.helixcode.com/apps/evolution.php3
TradeClient http://www.tradeclient.org
Mahogany http://www.wxwindows.org/Mahogany/
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Garry Knight
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree 4.0
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:16:58 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David
Mehringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed red hat 7 and now X doesn't work properly for me.
> For example, moving windows around on the screen causes the display to
> get totally screwed up and there is no way to refresh it.
Maybe X doesn't recognise all the RAM on your video card. I had this
happen under 3.3.6 with my 4MB Cirrus Logic card - only 2 MB was
recognised so moving windows left a trail on the screen. I fixed it by adding
the following line in the Device section of my XF86Config:
VideoRam 4096
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Garry Knight
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux file burned onto CDR from Win98 machine
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.cdr,linux.redhat,staroffice.com.support.install.linux
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:20:22 GMT
In article <W8dG5.7105$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Ralf Cirksena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Make sure to burn with rock ridge extensions. There extended filenames
>> and *IX permissions are mapped to ISO9660 file names.
>
> When I used Easy CD Creator, it didn't support Rock Ridge, only Joliet.
> However, in this case, I don't expect that will be a problem. I don't
> know how the StarOffice installation is arranged, but I imagine it came
> in the form of a simple archive. (No?)
I don't know offhand what format the StarOffice files from the Internet
are in, but chances are there won't be a problem. This is certainly
true if the files are tarballs (.tar.gz or .tgz files) or RPM files
(.rpm extension). The worst that'll happen in these cases is that the
filenames will be corrupted. After extraction or installation, they'll
work fine. If the files burned to CD are a bunch of installation scripts
and whatnot, though, they may not work when burned using Joliet.
> You can do much more sophisticated CD mastering with the standard Linux
> utilities. I imagine at least some of them have been ported to Windows
> as well...
Yes, both mkisofs and mkhybrid (mkisofs with Mac HFS support) have been
ported to Windows. I've got a link to a (somewhat old) version of
mkisofs for Windows at http://www.rodsbooks.com/rhjol/. You can use this
to burn a Rock Ridge CD-R from Windows (or, more precisely, to create an
image file that you can then burn from whatever Windows CD-R software
you normally use). You won't be able to control ownership or
permissions, though, unless you create the image file from a tarball
that was created on a Unix/Linux system. (You can sometimes download a
directory tree from an FTP site as a tarball, which you can then master
to CD preserving the original sites ownership and permissions.)
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: dpace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Embedded linux: syncronizing system time w/o onboard HW clock
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:45:13 +0000
Jim Fischer wrote:
>
> I'm working with an EBSA-285 evaluation board [SA-110 "StrongARM" CPU w/
> 21285 core logic chip], and am currently running Linux version 2.4.0-test8
> as the OS. The board is configured for "host bridge" [a.k.a., "central
> function"] mode -- i.e., it is acting as the host bridge for the system.
> None of the boards in the system have a hardware clock on them; so there's
> no "built in" hardware clock that Linux can use to set/sync the system
> clock. The EBSA-285 platform is connected to an isolated (no Internet
> access) LAN via a 3Com NIC. The other hosts on the LAN are standard PCs
> running both Win2K and Linux (various kernel versions). The EBSA-285 board
> uses 'bootp' to obtain its IP address and then 'tftp' to download a
> compressed kernel image from one of the Linux hosts on the LAN. The kernel
> then uses an NFS mount point as the EBSA's root file system.
>
> Here's the problem: Once each day, Linux on the EBSA-285 resets the system
> clock back to the epoch date -- i.e., Jan 1, 1970. My guess is that the
> kernel is attempting to update the system clock based on the hardware clock,
> and since there is no hardware clock, the kernel simply resets the system
> clock to the epoch date/time. As you can probably imagine, this is causing
> all sorts of problems for programs that rely on time/date information.
>
> Short of using something like NTP -- which seems excessively complex for
> this situation -- is there any other way to sync the system clock on the
> EBSA with a clock on one of the Win2K / Linux hosts on the LAN? Ideally, I'd
> like the EBSA's linux kernel to obtain the hardware (or even system) clock
> time from one of the other Linux hosts on the LAN, and then to use that
> date/time info to update the EBSA's system clock date/time [kind-of a
> virtual hardware clock]. [FWIW, I don't have the 'difftime' utility working
> yet on the EBSA-285 platform.] Any suggestions, pointers to FAQs, HOWTOs,
> etc., would be appreciated...
>
> Jim Fischer
> CPE/MSEE Grad Student
> Cal Poly, SLO
The timed daemon serves exactly this purpose.
I don't know if it uses difftime or if it would work on
your system. I do use it to synchronize computers on my network.
You can set one to master and another to slave.
--
David Pace - Free commodity/stock graphing software
and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Q: High Availability Solutions
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:36:52 GMT
I've recently downloaded the high availability solution from apptime
technology (wizard software) called watchdog and found it easy to setup
and configure on our redhat/suse system.
see http://www.apptime.com
but I wonder if anyone has tried this software and how good they have
found it. it does seem very cheap in comparison to the competition and
it also works on windows nt.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andi smart)
Subject: file management questions
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:56:29 GMT
Two simple questions, to which I can't find the answers
1) How do I copy the contents of a directory to another directory
taking any subdirectories too. I know how to copy the isolated files
but any directories get left behind
2) How do I take my rm and rmdir commands out of interactive mode. I
know that rmdir -r will delete a directory and all its contents
including subdirectories. However my copy of RedHat has gone into
interactive mode by default and makes me confirm each deletion (I was
forced into GUI mode today by a directory containing 1095 files in
many subdirectories :)
I've checked the man pages but can't seem to find an answer......
andi smart
"A single open mind, can open any door"
Sonia Rutstein
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin)
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 13:50:58 -0400
"Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Jan Schaumann wrote (in part):
> >
> >> use whatever you think does the job best for you. If you nedd 100%
> >> MS-Word conformance, you will need MS-WORD, that's the sad truth. But
> >> if you need 100% efficiency, well, that's a completely different story.
> >
> > The trouble is, 100% conformance with which version of MS-WORD? They do
> > not seem to conform with one another. People with one version often have
> > trouble reading documents written by another. Usually, the latest and
> > greatest can read older versions, but not vice-versa, so if anyone uses
> > a version newer than the others in a community, all the rest must
> > upgrade. That can be an intolerable expense. The recent implementation
> > of "fast save" (I think it is called), and distributing MS-Word with
> > that turned on by default, is a particularly odious example.
>
> Ack.
>
> Well, that, of course, brings me back to the efficiency-factor. If you
> have somewhat smart people you are workign with, convince them to use a
> portable document format, which *everybody* can open/read and it will
> look the same. I do't know for sure, but I seem to have heard some good
> things about FrameMaker (or something like that, from Adobe) to do a good
> job...
>
> But I still think that LaTeX (LyX) is the best choice...
I agree with you - I also do a fair amount of coauthoring with people
who insist on the pseudo-OS (I use LaTeX); I generally just tell them
to save as text, since there's really no advantage to formatting until
the substance is done. That is, unless you're "claire" or whatever
the troll's name is, and formatting is the only thing that matters in
your documents.
I also sometimes point people toward Word2TeX, www.vcom.kiev.ua/~chik
which does a fair (and only *fair*) job of saving Word docs as TeX, so
they can keep their precious formatting to some extent.
There are also latex2html, latex2rtf, and (I think) rtf2latex so you
could try one of those.
ap
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======================================================================
Andrew Perrin - Solaris-Linux-NT-Samba-Perl-Access-Postgres Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Subject: Re: alsa problem
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:29:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello all,
>Could someone please help me i have been fighting with this for the last
>week..... I have a cmi8330 card, i can get it all installed, and hear
>the speakers come online, but when i pull up the mixer i don't have a
>master volume. I have tried unmute on what is there, but no sound. I
>don't know what to do. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
>in advance. KNE
>
Did you:
amixer set Master 63 unmute
amixer ser PCM 50 unmute
If that doesn't get you some noise... have you installed the modules
snd-mixer-oss and snd-pcm-oss? You need them for compa with OSS aware
applications like XMMS, kde, etc...
My modules.con contains this for ALSA support...
#alsa sound card setp for AOPEN AW230
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-cs461x
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd-card-cs461x snd_dac_frame_size=128 snd_adc_frame_size=4
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Unable to load interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:22:52 GMT
Hi,
my linux server suddently started to put this message in
my /var/log/messages log file :
"kernel: Unable to load interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2"
This after 1 or 2 days up . If I let it go, it crashes completly and
the only solution is a hardware reboot . If I reboot it every 2 days,
it's Ok 'except that I need to reboot every 2 days ! ;-) )
"lsof" tells that this library is loaded after a reboot (then it is
correctly loaded I think since there is no error message).
My kernel is 2.2.14, from SuSE 6.4 . It worked correctly for 5 months.
I have a 2* PIII 600 MHz, 1Gb hard configuration .
Do anybody have a clue about where it could come from, or about any
solution to solve this ? Does it come from an hardware problem (this
servor passed the 5 first tests of memtest86), or do I have to
reinstall a library, and then the kernel ?
Thanks,
Fred
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From: Minya Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: people "cdrecord"ing on Linux, help please!
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:31:00 -0400
hi,
after successfully burning 3 data CDs on my new YAMAHA CDRW, i started
making coasters because cdrecord crashes midway every time with the
"write_g1:" error. i read through lots of newsgroup postings from people
with similar problems but have not yet seen a good answer.
since there do exist people maintaining a perfect "record" of burning CDs
on linux with cdrecord, maybe it would be equally helpful if these lucky
ones could share their HW/SW configurations with us. This may provide
valuable insights to what might be wrong.
please help us!!!
thanks in advance,
minya
***
the following is a description of my trouble, in case anyone is patient
enough to read on.
Redhat6.2, 2.2.14 kernel
Yamaha 8824EZ
cdrecord-1.9
as i said, i was successful in burning 3 CDs, the first one using cdrecord
in text mode; the second and third using BurnIT - a java front end that
works with cdrecord1.8.1 only (i put a symbolic link in BurnIT's dir to
ensure the correct cdrecord version being used)
then i switched off my computer and went to get groceries and came back to
find cdrecord no longer working. (that's why i hate shopping even more!)
when i came back, i started copying a data CD to harddisk. when the CD was
loaded, the CDRW made a VERY loud noise when reading it - a lot of
vibration too. so i quit the process and changed the data CD to another
one, everything is back to normal again. once the image is copied to
harddisk using mkisofs, i started burning it to a blank CDR with
cdrecord. at ~403MB of 640MB, the cdrecord aborted due to some
write_g1: sendcmd : retryable error. Sense key is "Illegal request".
i am desperate to know whether it's a HW or a SW problem. my configuration
(kernel 2.2.14 + cdrecord 1.8) must have been correct before. what i don't
get is without any kernel upgrade or system change, why the config stopped
working suddenly? could it be that BurnIT changed the cdrecord settings or
the noisy reading session crippled my CDRW?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:39:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it
>looks like crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with
>the rest of the world, is using Word.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but MS Word output _is_ crap. Ask
anybody with a modicum of typesetting experience to take a look
at something produced with MS Word. After they stop laughing
they'll explain to you the many, many in which MS Word is
incapable of producing professional looking output (e.g. lack
of kerning and ligatures).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I have a TINY BOWL in
at my HEAD
visi.com
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file management questions
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:32:08 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 16-Oct-100 file management
questions by andi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1) How do I copy the contents of a directory to another directory
> taking any subdirectories too. I know how to copy the isolated files
> but any directories get left behind
'cp -r <src> <dst>'
(-r => recursive).
> 2) How do I take my rm and rmdir commands out of interactive mode. I
> know that rmdir -r will delete a directory and all its contents
> including subdirectories. However my copy of RedHat has gone into
> interactive mode by default and makes me confirm each deletion (I was
> forced into GUI mode today by a directory containing 1095 files in
> many subdirectories :)
There's probably a line like
"alias rm 'rm -i'"
hmmmm. I'm not using a recent RH release, so I'm not sure where
that would be.
'rm -f'
should probably work if you don't want to just disable the
aliases (change the .[shell]rc, and unalias rm).
/root/.bashrc (or /root/.cshrc for csh, etc)
would be my main suspect, 'tho.
> I've checked the man pages but can't seem to find an answer......
The -r bit is definitely in the 'rm' man page. The alias bit...
would probably be in RH-specific manuals, if anywhere.
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From: Jim Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: file is *really* tough to delete
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:20:53 -0400
Hi.
I've been trying to upgrade wu-ftp on a 6.0 Redhat system. The system's
been hacked but I think I've got most things retored to original. In
trying to install the wu-ftp RPM package, I came across an error that
said it couldn't rename a file. In checkin this out, I found the
following:
[root@rss-cf bin]# pwd
/usr/bin
[root@rss-cf bin]# whoami
root
[root@rss-cf bin]# which ftpcount
./ftpcount
[root@rss-cf bin]# lsattr ftpcount
======== ftpcount
[root@rss-cf bin]# ls -la ftpcount
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7684 Apr 19 1999 ftpcount
[root@rss-cf bin]# /bin/rm ftpcount
/bin/rm: cannot unlink `ftpcount': Permission denied
[root@rss-cf bin]# stat ftpcount
File: "ftpcount"
Size: 7684 Filetype: Regular File
Mode: (0777/-rwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/
root)
Device: 3,5 Inode: 63188 Links: 1
Access: Mon Oct 16 13:00:35 2000(00000.00:18:38)
Modify: Mon Apr 19 09:22:02 1999(00546.03:57:11)
Change: Mon Oct 16 13:07:01 2000(00000.00:12:12)
Strangely, I can chmod all I want.
I've checked the sum's of /bin/rm, chattr, etc. with a good copy of RH
6.0 and everything looks good.
Any ideas about how to clobber this thing?
Thanks,
-jim
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From: Sergey Grishin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wu-ftpd question
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:56:38 +0300
Hello
When attempting to run wu-ftpd I constantly get the following line in
/var/log/messages
Sep 15 02:27:21 localhost ftpd[480]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Socket
operation on non-socket
And that is all: wu-ftpd does not work. This problem is not covered in
their FAQ (www.wu-ftpd.org) and other docs, so how to fix it?
Thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:03:17 GMT
Garry Knight wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Dustin
>Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Another possibility is to use HTML for true portability, but most
>> publishing houses will not support that.
>
>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
>pretty well. It just depends on how tricky you want to get with using
>text frames and so on. And, of course, the WP needs to have a good font
>substitution algorithm. But I believe RTF to be the most portable text
>format (apart from plain text, that is...).
The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat - D'uh). RTF
is not half as portable.
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: Gary Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: hp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: RH7.0 w/Iopener pseudo-hang.
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:59:46 -0600
Greetings,
I have an Iopener that I had put RH6.2 on and it worked fine.
I decided to upgrade it to RH7.0...which seems to not like
the Iopener or the Iopener doesn't like RH7.0.
The problem is that it appears to hang just after the line
to the effect of 'Freeing x bytes of unused kernel memory' which
is just before the line that says "Init 2.78" appears. At first
I thought it had locked up, but CTRL-ALT-DEL still works as does
the magic sysrq key sequence. So I don't think it's locked...but
rather just not liking something...the new init perhaps?
So my question is; has anyone experienced this and found a fix
or know why it really isn't working?
Thanks,
Gary
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