Linux-Misc Digest #51, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Feb 99 15:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: MT5634ZPX-PCI modem (Nathan Cuka)
Re: Setting eth0 and default routing for RH5.1 upon startup ("Andy Piper")
Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix ("Keith G. Murphy")
Re: Newbie Problem with ./configure (Shadowspawn)
Re: Copying linux system.... (John Brock)
Re: what's the difference between desktop/window-manager (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Re: workspaces-menu under WindowMaker (Tarcus)
sem_wait never fails? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: set up small word-processing system (Byron A Jeff)
Re: Partitioning and Hard Drive Space for Linux (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Network help!!! (Rick Onanian)
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From: Nathan Cuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.binaries.warez.linux,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: MT5634ZPX-PCI modem
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:01:52 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a Multitech MT5634ZPX-PCI modem its not a "winmodem" and it will
> operate under Unix,OS2,windows and according to Multitech Linux as well
> "in therory". I've see people posting articles claiming that this modem
> should work but I have yet to see anyone back it up with any facts ect.
> I'm begining to think that I'm wasting my time messing with this modem
> but right now I just want to prove it does or doesn't work.
>
> My Windows 98 Modem Settings are:
>
> IRQ 11
> COM 5
> UART 16550AN
>
> Do I set my Linux settings to match my windows settings ? Example:
> setserial /dev/ttys4 IRQ 11 UART 16559
>
> When I use the setserial command It shows the changes have been made but
> I'm unable to get the modem to anything. I can use minicom to dial and it
> says its dailing but it just hangs there.
>
> anyone has any ideas??
> >
You need to set the port address as well as the IRQ and UART settings.
Also, make sure that your changes are taking effect by typing
setserial /dev/ttys4.
I have had a bad experience with this modem however.
I was able to get a MultiModem ZPX PCI "working" on my box (Redhat 5.2,
2.0.36 kernel). It was able to respond to commands, dial out, etc.. However,
I found that the modem failed to *consistently* work properly -- either
in win98 or linux. The problem which I would have is that it would work
once or twice after I installed it, but after rebooting a couple of times
it would become non-responsive in linux, and in win98 I
would get "couldn't open port" error messages. The only way to fix it
was to take out the board and put it in another PCI slot. Tech support
at multimodem eventually (after trying a couple of fixes) suggested that I
get an external modem. Bzzzttt. Wrong answer. I am currently trying to
get a refund.
Hope that you have better luck than I did...
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| Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Neoglyphics Media Corporation.........http://www.neog.com
|
| I put a dollar in one of those change machines. Nothing changed...
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From: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting eth0 and default routing for RH5.1 upon startup
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:48:00 -0000
Reply-To: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ben Russo wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>tf49665 wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know where (which startup files) to put my eth0 setting and
>> default routing upon startup? I'm running redhat 5.1.
>>
>> I have to manually set eth0. The following settings work after I login
to
>> Linux, but I don;t know where the startup files are for these commands.
My
>> settings are :
>>
>> insmod 8390
>> insmod ne io=0x2a0 irq=11
>> ifconfig eth0 ???.???.???.???
>>
>> route add default gw ???.???.???.???
>>
>> Thanks and please email me directly in response.
>>
>> Tom
>
>/etc/sysconfig/network
>AND
>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*
>
Something which runs in my boot sequence (ifupcfg or something similar from
the network-scripts directory) goes belly-up halfway through and the result
is that eth0 isn't configured or started - so I have to perform similar
steps to get things working. It seems to be that linuxconf is core-dumping
halfway through the network script in question.
I can't see why linuxconf should be running at all as part of this sequence.
Incidentally, it refuses to run at all on my system (RH5.1, partially
upgraded beyond that!) - core-dumping every time.
As for ppp... don't get me started! When I 'insmod ppp' now, it reports
unresolved symbols (to do with shlc_xxxxx?), yet I can manually insert the
shlc module and things run fine afterwards. Bizarre!
AND another thing! it reports loads of module-net-pf3 (through to
module-net-pf6) errors on boot, and aliasing them to off in
/etc/conf.modules has no effect at all!
Things are looking seriously screwed in my system at the moment!
Andy
--
Andy Piper
Technical Analyst, Middleware Development Group
phone: (01252) 528957 or (0780) 109 1431
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
** All views expressed are my own! **
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:11:05 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andreas Schyman wrote:
>
> > Im a web developer and sadly I have to say that IE4 is far better with java
> > script and Css. Netscape claims they have full suport for it but i dont
> > agree with that!
> >
> > So yes,, as long as netscape cant show every page on the net i would say
> > that there would be nice to have ie 4!
>
> Well, the thing is that there is a standard for HTML, css and
> javascript, however, NS and MS doesn�t really care about the standards.
> They rather develop there own enhanced browsers. As a webdeveloper you
> should also be aware of that there are thing NS can do that IE can�t, so
> it�s not that IE has a better support, it�s just different.
Well, I'd have to agree with ACE Alex: from what *I've* seen from my
admittedly limited experience as a web developer, that MS supports the
CSS standards, at least, *better*, not just differently. More
completely and closer to the standard. But this is a snapshot of how
things were about, mmm, 8 months ago. Maybe Netscape has caught up
since then.
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From: Shadowspawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Problem with ./configure
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:22:06 GMT
Ok I got the text from your message saved it into a text file called hello.c in
the /usr/src directory and tried this:
[root@localhost src]# gcc -O hello.c -o hello
hello.c:1: stdio.h: No such file or directory
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Brock)
Subject: Re: Copying linux system....
Date: 15 Feb 1999 10:28:10 -0500
This looks to me like it would only work if the two partitions are
exactly the same size. If you copy to a larger partition, how would
the extra space -- which would not be written to -- get formatted, and
how would the file system know that it was available?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Stephen S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We used to use a linux system to transfer all types of partitions with
>a cat command like this:
>
>cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/hdd1
>
>or something similar. It was known as our copying ststion for a
>while. Whenever a customer wanted a partition transfered or something
>we used this method.
>On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:36:45 +1000, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me if it's possible to copy a whole linux partition with
>>a recursive cp?
>>
>>I have run out of disk space on my linux partition and want to move it
>>to a larger empty partition.
>>
>>Is there a good way of doing this? Or are there programs which can
>>resize a extfs partition?
--
John Brock
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's the difference between desktop/window-manager
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:18:59 -0600
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> [Posted and mailed, snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with
> ">"]
> On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:56:59 -0500, Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi Ben,
> > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. It clears up a lot of stuff.
> >I think I'll try the KDE one of these days when I have time to kill...
>
> That's a real good time to do it. Make sure you have plenty of ram to
> kill too. You'll need both for KDE to be usable. Personally I
> prefer fvwm2 with ktdesk, but each to his own.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey, Steve, I put up WindowMaker just to see what some on this newsgroup
have been raving about. It is not bad. Light and very fast, yet it is
easy to drop icons on the dekstop to fire your favorites if you don't
want to traverse the menu structure. Even so, I think I'll stick with
KDE. RAM and HD space is cheap and the cpu's are getting faster and
faster. Once KOffice (with KWord, KGraphs, KSpread, KData, KComm (or
what ever they are called) gets to 1.0 then Linux will have distros that
boot via KDM directly to the KDE desktop. That will suck millions of M$
users into the fold.... (Did I hear a deep collective groan from the
old Linux High Priests?)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:17:42 GMT
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:15:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster) chose
to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>
>As a follow up to that 20/20 or one of the news shows had a special on
>SUV's and they found that though they account for roughly 15% of the
>vehicles on the road they are involved in about 30% of the accidents.
>Here in Mich. with our snowy/icy wintertime roads our dumb SOB (some)
>SUV drivers forget that though they can go despite bad road conditions
>they can't stop any quicker (usually longer) than the normal car can.
The same was true when front wheel drives were new. People did learn
how to drive them better.
>They get a false sense of security and wind up causing accidents,
There were reports last fall about people with airbag equipped cars
being more agressive drivers than average. Maybe we should ban those
as well.
> not
>to mention the damn problem of trying to see around these behemoths at
>intersections to see if there's any oncoming traffic.
Basic defensive driving techniques will solve this one. Hang back and
wait to go through the intersection when you can see. It'll only take
a couple of seconds and the life you save may be mine! :)
>
>
>
>On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:35:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Mayor Of R'lyeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>allow it. While not an actual regulation it was government pressure
>>>that has gotten the SUVs lowered and lightened thus lessening the
>>>safety of the last really safe class of vehicles left.
>>
>>I don't buy that one. I've seen an Isuzu Trooper go fairly far up on
>>two weels at slowish (~50-55?) freeway speeds just trying to center itself
>>in a lane suddenly.
>>
>>And, of course, SUV's are more dangerous *TO OTHER DRIVERS*. If you share
>>responsibility for injury and death between both cars in an accident, it
>>becomes painfully obvious that SUV's are horribly dangerous. In addition,
>>they are a traffic hazard. I've been nearly-hit by SUV's about once a month
>>since they started being popular, because the morons who drive them think
>>"oh, I'm safe, and if there's anything in my blind spot it's probably too
>>short to hurt me", and merge without signalling or looking. I've had to try
>>to guess whether or not there was oncoming traffic because a SUV was in my
>>way.
>>
>>No, the solution isn't "everyone drives a SUV" - because if we do, then we
>>end up duplicating a lot of the problems we'd have had if everyone were
>>driving smaller cars, and we waste a *LOT* of resources moving around excess
>>tonnage of metal no one really cares about.
>>
>>Does this mean I favor regulation? No. I favor slapping morons upside the
>>head, and I favor making sure that people who drive vehicles which are
>>particularly likely to damage or kill other people *are liable for those
>>consequences*.
>>
>>Anyway, go re-do your research. There are a lot of troubles with SUV's,
>>especially when they have to coexist with other cars.
>>
>>(Disclaimer: I drive an old station wagon that has been in three accidents,
>>the net damage to my car being a bit of a scuff on one bumper. It's a nice
>>old tank - and everyone can see over it, too.)
>>
>>-s
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tarcus)
Subject: Re: workspaces-menu under WindowMaker
Date: 14 Feb 1999 19:19:54 GMT
In article <7a09kv$ph7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Olaf Mueller) writes:
> So, where is the file "WORKSPACE_MENU"?
It's not there, it's an internally generated menu, the
"WORKSPACE_MENU" thing is just a keyword to tell WM that it should tag
the workspace menu on as a submenu of the current menu item.
--
>From the keyboard of Tarcus himself, running Linux in the UK.
-- There are no facts, only opinions --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sem_wait never fails?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:57:47 GMT
The info/man page for the sem_wait command (in semaphore.h) says:
RETURN VALUE
The sem_wait and sem_getvalue functions always return 0.
All other semaphore functions return 0 on success and -1
on error, in addition to writing an error code in errno.
It does not say what sem_wait does to errno. I can manually set
errno to zero and I find that errno= 4 after sem_wait exits.
Yet nothing is said in the man pages about errors for sem_wait.
Sun says this in it's man page for sem_wait:
EINTR sem_wait() was interrupted by a signal.
This make it seem like Linux does not set EINTR for sem_wait.
Is there something missing in the Linux documenation for sem_wait with
regard to interrupts and EINTR?
Thanks,
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: set up small word-processing system
Date: 15 Feb 1999 08:56:53 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Posted and mailed, snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with
>">"]
>On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:09:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
>mcadams) wrote:
>
>>I think the next thing I'll do is try to locate some simms and then
>>decide what to do based on how much memory I can come up with. Thanks
>>guys.
>
>btw, I've tried several distributions including Slackware 3.6, Red Hat
>5.2, and SuSE 5.3, and none of their install programs will run in
>4meg. Winblows 3.1 is perfectly happy in 4meg along with MS-Word.
>Not fast, but fully functional, as good or better than any
>word-processing software I've come across under Linux to date.
Slack 3.6 will with a small bit of work. There's even a file LOWMEM.TXT at
the top level that describes the process, first depricating it of course.
Here's the problem: All modern distributions use initial ramdisks to load
the root disk from floppy. This of course takes up quite a bit of the precious
4 MB of ram available. Essentially after the kernel takes its meg and change
and the ramdisk takes its 2 meg and change, there's nothing left.
So you have to modify the installation a bit so that it will fit. One of the
reasons I still use Slackware is because you can interject changes in the
install process.
The skinny on the process is to eliminate the ramdisk and run the rootdisk
from the floppy. Be aware that unless you have two floppy drives it is
impossible to do a floppy installation using this technique.
So here's what you do:
0) You'll have to use an obselete rootdisk. All the new ones have been blown
up so that only the compressed root image fits on a 1.44. They are in the
obselete directory.
1) use gunzip to unzip the rootdisk. While the Linux kernel will automagically
uncompress a ramdisk when it loads it, it cannot work with a real compressed
disk.
2) Write the uncompressed image to a floppy. Make sure to leave the floppy
so that it's writable.
3) Boot the boot disk. At the boot prompt use 'mount root=/dev/fd0' to boot
the system.
4) The kernel will load and it'll ask for the root floppy. Put it in. DO NOT
REMOVE IT FOR ANY REASON! It's the root disk.
5) When the system loads, run fdisk to partition. Make sure to partition and
tag a swap partition. You'll need it for installation.
6) run mkswap /dev/hdax; sync ; swapon /dev/hdax to create and attach the
swap partition.
7) Now run setup as normal. Be sure not to reformat the swap partition but
simply add it to fstab as it's already formatted and attached.
A lot of work. So it's easier to say it isn't supported and suggest either
adding (even temporarily) more RAM, or doing the install on another machine
with more ram then moving the installed disk back. Linux distributions have
been growing with the machines they install on. Seeing a 4 MB machine nowadays
is so rare that the install software simply doesn't support it out the box
anymore. Doing so would make the install process for all the other machines
much more painful. For example the new slackware root disks have a bunch of
new status utilities (df, free, dmesg) that there simply wasn't room for
on the old rootdisks. Patrick has upgraded to a larger ELF C library so that
the install rootdisk can actually run the applications it's installing. The
older rootdisks used a smaller a.out library that would only run the apps that
were actually on the install disks.
But it can be done. With a little bit of work.
BAJ
>
>Pretty sad if you ask me. We had a multi-threading operating system
>running on a PDP-11/45 in 1973 and it only had 256k total store. In
>case you guys have forgotten (or perhaps never realized if you're
>X-generation people, no blame) 4meg is a shitload of memory. At least
>it was back when assembler was king. A few years ago ('93 or so)
>when I was at IBM we were running 2000+ users on a virtual system that
>had, as I recall, less than 4meg total ram. Of course that system had
>its problems too, like springing leaks in the water cooling system
>required to dissipate the processor heat :-) It was pretty funky when
>we had a cople thousand users sitting on their hands waiting for the
>system to come back up after the plumber came and fixed the cooling
>system. But pound for pound, I have no clue why a 486-DX2 50
>shouldn't kick ass with 4meg of memory; the Tandy Z80 that I had
>certainly did and it only had 32k in which I wrote a complete word
>processor and had room to spare. I wonder what my PII-333/128M system
>would do if it was running a truely efficient opsys... probably wait
>on the hard-drives just like it does now.
There's some law out there that says that applications will grow to fill and
then overflow the available space. Yes there was multitasking in those days
but 1) The applications were not the same and 2) Those machine had extremely
efficient swap/paging mechanisms that would manage that space.
Computers have grown up. About 6 years ago I was scouting out 32MB of ram
for the Army Research Lab. The best price I could find at the time for 8
4MB SIMMS was $1200. Since price constrained the typical memory configuration
of a PC, the applications had to be written to fit the typical memory profile.
At a low 32 MB of SDRAM was available for $26 (I think it's a bit higher
now). So 64,96,128,256, even 512MB of memory in a machine isn't an unreasonable
proposistion nowadays. So the applications, OS, and distribution folks write
their stuff to fit the typical profile. Which means that smaller, slower
machines will struggle to keep up because the apps no longer target their
memory profile.
BTW I have a 486 DX2 50 currently running an extremely old Slackware install
(the kernel is 1.3.15 IIRC). I use it as an X terminal to a faster machine and
as a nameserver. It performs those jobs quite nicely. However running netscape
or compiling a kernel which stresses the CPU and memory, shows the age of the
machine.
>
>Looks like I'll scrounge a few simms, and run Win95 in 32 meg for this
>system. Then it looks like my next Linux project is to read the
>kernel source and find out what's wasting so much store. Or maybe
>it's time for me to learn x86 assembler.
If you put in 32MB, you'll get a what and what on Win95 vs. Linux. Nothing in
the kernel is wasting store. Linux has one of the best implemented memory
management schemes around. All the current distributions use compressed
ramdisks for their rootdisk, which clock in at over 2MB and are unswappable.
Remove that impediment and it works, slowly, but works. And the slowly is
why all the distribution guys went to the new setup.
A couple of more things. There's one gentleman that's been looking at
optimizing the Linux kernel for low memory usage. I beleive he settled on
a modified 1.0.9 kernel. Poke around the search engines with Linux low memory
1.0.9 and it should pop right up. He had a working system in 896K of RAM
if you're wondering.
As for the wordprocessor, I'd take a crack at WP 8.0. I only played with it
but I read reports that it does a decent, if pokey, job in 8MB of RAM.
But the bottom line is that 4MB is extremely cramped in today's computing
world. So it'll take some work to get efficient execution in that space.
BAJ
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning and Hard Drive Space for Linux
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:13:55 -0600
Allan Purnell wrote:
>
> Monday 15th Feb 1999
>
> I am about to install the newly available English version of S.u.S.E.
> Linux 6.0. I hope to start this coming weekend Saturday 20th Feb.
Yesterday I upgraded my SuSE 5.3 to 6.0. Things went pretty well. I
have only one minor issue remaining.
>
> What are Linux users' views/experiences re partitioning for Linux in
> general and the hard drive space optimal for a home PC with one user?
Pages 47-52 of the SuSE manual discuss this issue nicely.
> I have an aging IBM PC, almost 3 years old, with 3 by-today's-standards
> smaller hard drives: HD1=1.6Gb, HD2=2Gb, HD3=3Gb. RAM=40Mb.
You don't mention your CDROM. Is it bootable? If it is connected as
master on your second IDE you will have change the jumpers on it and the
drive that shares the second IDE so that the drive becomes master and
the CDROM is slave. Pg 43.
>
> Main OS=Win95(OSR1), with VFAT version of FAT16.
>
> I'm putting the Linux Swap on HD1, up to possibly 100Mb just to be on
> the safe side. The remaining 1.5Gb will have my Win95 Primary.
Page 47 suggests /boot have 5-10 MB (all below the 1024th cylinder),
swap is 128MB, root (/) gets 180MB, /home gets 100MB, and /usr and /opt
gets all you can give them. Six partitions. The /tmp dir is usually
under root, unless you put it in its own partition. A package like
StarOffice 5.0 will put nearly 75MB of temp files in the /tmp directory
during install and if /tmp isn'st big enough you can't install SO.
That's probably why you want root to be at least 180MB if it contains
/tmp.
I had three partions on two HDs, and was running out of / space, with
only 13% free. I added a third HD (WD 6.4GB caviar), creating three 2GB
partitions. When I ran the install I ended up with only 2% free on
root! Close! That was because /user and /opt were not on partions of
their own. I ended up copying /opt to /c2/opt and ln -s /c2/opt /opt,
which increase my free space to 20%.
That has some interesting side effects: When YaST installs programs
that go into /opt it adds the /opt space used to the / space used and
tells me I have less than %5 left and warns me that the program(s) I am
about to install may not fit. I continue on and everything works ok,
however.
Free space on root remains at 20% even though I had a good install of a
400MB program on /opt.
>
> Boot Control will be via MBR.
A nice way to go. I have both dos and linux in a dual boot setup usling
LILO. Soon, the dos section will be history and I'll reclaim the M$
space for Linux! "Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, free
at last!" - MLK, Jr.
>
> HD2 (2Gb) will be either all Linux Ext2 for / (root.....), or have 2
> Linux sections split in a suitable ratio 1:1 or 2:1 or 3:1, or have
> Linux Ext2 at the beginning of the drive and a Windows Logical in the
> latter part of the drive.
>
> HD3 (3Gb) has 2 Windows Logicals: 2Gb and 1Gb in that order, which I'm
> happy with. Win95(OSR1) only supports partitions up to 2Gb.
>
> If anyone can cast some words of wisdom my way I will be only too
> grateful.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Allan
I upgraded from 5.3. Some have suggested that the old version be blown
off and 6.0 installed from scratch. There are pros and cons to both.
During the upgrade I selected the <auto> mode to allow YaST to
automatically determine package dependencies and install what it found.
That lead to my commerical copy of Applix being overwritten with the
demo version on the 6.0 CDROM. It wouldn't have mattered, though.
Applix has its own copies of glibc6 and they have to be installed
anyway. My Netscape 4.05 stopped working, as did PostgreSQL (which they
said it might), and I reinstalled both of them. Netscape 4.5 is on the
6.0 CD and that is what I an running now. Some say it is buggy and
crashes (they said the same for 4.05) but it seems, like 4.05, to be
working for me. My commerical copy of WordPerfect8 came through ok.
All in all, it was ok as upgrades go. The usually problems.
I am thinking of blowing off my 6.0 install and redoing it. First,
because I'm a geek and this will be fun. Second, since adding the big
HD I need to reconfigure my partions more along the lines I suggested
above, giving /opt and /usr their own partitions and not using links,
and cutting back on the space root doesn't need.
Have fun!
Jerry
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From: Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Network help!!!
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:10:31 -0500
bklimas wrote:
>
> Could you please choose just one newsgroup to post you question to?
>
> Aaron Dershem wrote:
>
> > OK, after reading stuff all day and looking all over the web, I'll say it:
> > I have no freakin' idea what I'm doing!
> >
> > Could someone out there outline the steps I need to do in order to get my
> > network card to work?
>
> And do you have Linux installed or do you have this problem with Windows?
> What distribution and version of Linux did you install? Did the installation
> program prompt you about your network card during the
> installation? And how do you know you have problems with installation
> of the network card and not just the network setup?
>
> > I downloaded the via-rhine.c file from the Internet
> > (using my Win98 box :-( ), but no clue as to what happens next. Do I have
> > to compile a new kernel, compile the driver (.c file), or what?
>
> Just get RedHat 5.2 and install it. I did so, I am a newbie, and my network
> works. I did not have to recompile anything. I don't know anything about the
> .c file you mention. It seems to me you make it more complicated then
> it really is.
Not everyone is as lucky as you. It's possible that he made it
overcomplicated, but it's also very possible that you've
oversimplified. He probably does not have the same hardware as
you. In fact, I have heard of people having problems with a
similar driver to the one he mentioned. RedHat doesn't have
support for EVERY network card under the sun - and that's why he
had to get it from the hardware vendor, probably.
> > Thanks, I'll be waiting for an answer.
>
> Just be more specific and we will try to help you? What exactely is your
> problem? What I you trying to do, and what do you get?
> > Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I did. Pls reply to comp.os.linux.setup ONLY.
You will notice that you did not remove comp.os.linux.networking from
your reply. If you don't like his post, you're not required to
reply to it..but please don't scare other newbies away with a
holier-than-thou attitude. If you didn't mean any offense or
hard feelings, than I'm sorry to reply this way...but you did
come off as sounding like you were downright angry at him.
The original poster, although he didn't provide enough information,
does not deserve to be crucified like that. He DID look elsewhere
first, and you gotta give him credit for that. I'm no guru, and
constantly receive help from the linux community, and it's really
damn cool how everyone's almost always nice..let's try to keep it
that way.
rick
Again, if you didn't mean anything bad...please disregard my reply.
> > Aaron Dershem
>
> Best regards,
>
> b.k.
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