Linux-Misc Digest #85, Volume #26 Thu, 19 Oct 00 22:13:01 EDT
Contents:
xterm/emacs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *.bin files??? ("David ....")
Re: *.bin files??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mgetty problems ("Dennis")
WINDOW MAKER SOUND (Gotzon Berrojalbiz)
Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel? ("Daniel Cave")
Re: xterm/emacs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 56k modem works *only at 14.4*-> IRQ 0? (Bob Hauck)
Re: P.I.M.s? (Bob Hauck)
Re: moving swap partition (Attn gurus) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with rpm (Al)
Re: ftp problem (Al)
Re: changing irq's doesn't help! (Jonathan C Busey)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Christopher Browne)
Re: recommend a database (Christopher Browne)
portable document formats [was: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?] ("Jan
Schaumann")
Irritating logon screen error. (Victor Dods)
Re: IceWM question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xterm/emacs
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:07:38 GMT
Hello,
Does anyone know of a Windows program that's let you log into a unix
system (besides telnet) and allows you to use xterm and emacs? I think
there was something called X-Win or Win-x 32. Not for sure.
Thanks.
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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.bin files???
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:06:50 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I recently downloaded staroffice from sun site, but its in .bin format,
> how do I expand them & install, nothing seems to expand this, I tried
> pkzip, stuffit expander, tar...
> I know they are encoded, but how do I un-encode them & expand later..
>
> any help will be greatly appreciated..
> Nagaraj.
>
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> Before you buy.
Login to "root" not as a user. Then at a command prompt enter:
./full_package_name.bin/net
When done you can login as a user and install the user section.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *.bin files???
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:12:37 GMT
I even tried "chmod 755 file" & executing it, it says "can't execute
binary file", seems to be a real catch??
Nagaraj.
In article <8snvn3$slh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I recently downloaded staroffice from sun site, but its in .bin
format,
> how do I expand them & install, nothing seems to expand this, I tried
> pkzip, stuffit expander, tar...
> I know they are encoded, but how do I un-encode them & expand later..
>
> any help will be greatly appreciated..
> Nagaraj.
>
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From: "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mgetty problems
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:18:11 +1000
Hi all...
I'm having problems with setting up mgetty on RH7 using a cyclom-y 16 port
serial board.
The driver is loaded and ttyS0 -> ttyS15 are the devices it wanst to use.
log dump of /var/log/dmesg...
==================================================================
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Cyclades driver 2.3.2.9 2000/08/10 16:00:00
built Oct 19 2000 12:25:15
log dump /var/log/messages....
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Oct 20 10:40:34 weewee mgetty[1021]: WARNING: DSR is off - modem turned off
or bad cable?: No such file or directory
"I checked the cable, it works fine"
Oct 20 10:40:55 weewee mgetty[1021]: timeout in chat script, waiting for
`OK': Interrupted system call
Oct 20 10:40:55 weewee mgetty[1021]: init chat timed out, trying
force-init-chat: Interrupted system call
Oct 20 10:41:19 weewee mgetty[1021]: timeout in chat script, waiting for
`OK': Interrupted system call
Oct 20 10:41:19 weewee mgetty[1021]: init chat failed, exiting...:
Interrupted system call
Oct 20 10:41:19 weewee mgetty[1021]: failed in mg_init_data, dev=ttyS0,
pid=1021
Oct 20 10:41:19 weewee mgetty[1023]: can't create pid file
/var/run/mgetty.pid.ttyS0: File exists
" tried removing it and "init q" to reset, still got these error messages"
Oct 20 10:41:19 weewee mgetty[1023]: WARNING: DSR is off - modem turned off
or bad cable?: No such file or directory
Anyone know what is up with this setup ?
Cheers
Dennis
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From: Gotzon Berrojalbiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: WINDOW MAKER SOUND
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:26:39 GMT
Where can I find sound archives to make my Window Maker sound when I
maximize, iconify, ... windows ? I've already installed wsoundserver and
wsoundprefs.
THANKS
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From: "Daniel Cave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:34:25 +0100
Guys.
(please excuse x-posting)
Im stuck on this what seems an obvious resolution, but how do i able my box
to see 256 mg instead of the first 64 mg of ram in my system?
Ive tried permutations of
mem=256m/256 in /etc/lilo.conf, but no avail..
using RH6.1..
Much appreciated
dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: xterm/emacs
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:32:39 GMT
In article <8so2c5$uob$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Windows program that's let you log into a unix
> system (besides telnet) and allows you to use xterm and emacs? I
think
I use a program called "Putty". So named because its goal is "To make
Windows useful". :-)
I forget where I got it, maybe Tucows -yep, they have it!
URL:
www.tucows.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: 56k modem works *only at 14.4*-> IRQ 0?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:43:41 GMT
On 19 Oct 2000 16:07:50 -0400, Jonathan C Busey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>and setserial -ga /dev/ttyS3 (that's where the modem is)
>/dev/ttyS3, Line 3, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 0
> Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
> closing_wait: 3000
> Flags: spd_normal skip_test auto_irq
IRQ isn't being detected. If you know what it should be, use setserial
to force it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: P.I.M.s?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:43:42 GMT
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:21:52 -0700, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>kpilot will work with korganizer. The only problem is that it does not
>keep secret palm pilot entries secret.
That's ok, they aren't really very secret anyway. See
securityfocus.com for details.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: moving swap partition (Attn gurus)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:55:36 GMT
In article <8snf43$4fl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Wheeler) wrote:
> Well, you have to have enough free VM space to move all of the data
swapped to
> this partition to either RAM or another swap space. It works quite
well under
> that condition, but if you can't do that...well...Linux doesn't like
running
> out of memory :)
At the time, I had 64M of RAM, 128M of swap. I was running out of swap
while using Electric Fence to debug an illegal memory access problem in
some C code (I *highly* recommend Electric Fence, but it can use a lot
of RAM).
I created several swap files (if I remember, swap had to be added in
128M chunks back then, I might be wrong on the size, but there was a
fairly low limit) and added them with swapon.
All went well during my debugging, later I needed the disk space back,
so I shut down all processes that used much RAM, and did a swapoff.
Kernel panic.
I have not had the guts to try it since... :-)
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with rpm
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:03:33 GMT
Thanks to everyone for the responses.
They really helped (one way or the other).
Thanks
Alfredo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Al wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> > I'm trying to install an rpm package for Linux. I'm running
> > Gentus Linux on a celeron machine. But when I try
> > rpm -1 <packagename>, get the message:
> >
> > package <packagename> is for a different operating system.
> >
> > Don't all linux distributions recognize the same Linux rpm packages?
>
> Normally, although it also helps if you use the correct syntax. I
have
> no clue what a -1 switch does, but it certainly won't install an RPM.
> Try -i instead.
>
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp problem
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:05:56 GMT
Thank you for the hint
Alfredo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:11:00 GMT, Al wrote:
> >Hi all.
> >
> >I'm having problems with ftp on my linux boxes.
> >I have 2 boxes (a and b).
> >I can ftp from a to b but not from b to a.
> >I copied the following files from a to b, so a=b
> > inetd.config
> > hosts
> >rebooted both machines then from b I type:
> >
> >ftp <DNS of a> and get the message:
>
> Have you checked your hosts.allow and hosts.deny files on each
> machine.
>
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From: Jonathan C Busey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: changing irq's doesn't help!
Date: 19 Oct 2000 21:26:49 -0400
Sorry, the only way it can even find the modem is when when the irq is
set to 0. 1-25 are no gos. I changed it to each different setting to
check and make sure it took, but then neither wvdial, nor eznet, nor
pon, nor pppd straight could find it.
The strange thing is that *it works*, just super slow. I've been
downloading about 25-33 megs of data per day finishing installing all
the programs I need, and it never cuts off.
I've also tried setting the baud speed higher (2... something) and
lower (57600) and there doesn't seem to be any change.
In the meantime I've played around with /etc/ppp/options, and nothing
changes a bit.
Any more suggestions?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck) writes:
> On 19 Oct 2000 16:07:50 -0400, Jonathan C Busey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >and setserial -ga /dev/ttyS3 (that's where the modem is)
> >/dev/ttyS3, Line 3, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 0
> > Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
> > closing_wait: 3000
> > Flags: spd_normal skip_test auto_irq
>
> IRQ isn't being detected. If you know what it should be, use setserial
> to force it.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:28:58 GMT
In our last episode (Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:28:19 +0400),
the artist formerly known as Jan Schaumann said:
>"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>>>Garry Knight wrote:
>>
>>>>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
>>>>pretty well.
>>>
>>>The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
>>>D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
>>
>> Great. Let's see you "port" a PDF document into Word 97.
>
>See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> further below.
>
>Opening one document-type with an application that is not intended to
>handle that type can not produce the correct output.
>
>*You* try opening a word-document with xv.
The point, which should be underlined by virtue of the Subject: line
above that asks
"Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?"
is whether there is something sufficiently analagous to MS Word.
One of the properties of MS Word is that it is used to read, view,
_AND MODIFY_ documents prepared using the formats that it accepts.
PDF is about as near to a "read-only" format as you can get; once a
document has been distilled into PDF form, it is decidedly _NOT_
modifiable.
When the original topic was that of interoperability with MS Word, I
don't think it is particularly off-topic to wonder if a format being
proposed happens to be readable by MS Word.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: recommend a database
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:29:04 GMT
In our last episode (Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:00:07 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Dustin Puryear said:
>On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:06:09 -0500, Frank Stetzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>3. Allow perl access to tables via DBI or ODBC.
>>
>>I don't care what the behind-the-scenes engine is (MySQL, GBD, etc),
>>what I need is a frontend that will be friendly to Windoze refugees
>>and import/export ability.
>
>Why not just use an ODBC link and let them attach to the database
>with whatever they are used to. For example, MySQL offers MyODBC.
Unfortunately, the _capabilities_ offered by the respective databases
can differ, so that what you pump across the SQL-CLI connection may
not actually work with the database in question.
Further, it's not as simple as saying "We'll use SQL-CLI," and
treating that as the end of it. Your implementation will very likely
need to include a DBMS-specific <http://www.unixodbc.org/drivers.html>
"driver."
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: portable document formats [was: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:44:35 +0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In our last episode (Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:28:19 +0400), the artist
> formerly known as Jan Schaumann said:
>>"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>>>>Garry Knight wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export
>>>>>RTF pretty well.
>>>>
>>>>The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
>>>>D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
>>>
>>> Great. Let's see you "port" a PDF document into Word 97.
>>
>>See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> further below.
>>
>>Opening one document-type with an application that is not intended to
>>handle that type can not produce the correct output.
>>
>>*You* try opening a word-document with xv.
>
> The point, which should be underlined by virtue of the Subject: line
> above that asks
> "Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?"
> is whether there is something sufficiently analagous to MS Word.
>
> One of the properties of MS Word is that it is used to read, view,
> _AND MODIFY_ documents prepared using the formats that it accepts.
>
> PDF is about as near to a "read-only" format as you can get; once a
> document has been distilled into PDF form, it is decidedly _NOT_
> modifiable.
>
> When the original topic was that of interoperability with MS Word, I
> don't think it is particularly off-topic to wonder if a format being
> proposed happens to be readable by MS Word.
You are right in that far as that the Subject line should have changed a
long long time ago. When I proposed pdf to be a more portable document
format than rtf, the subject was "protable document formats" and not
whether or not one can open adn edit pdf's with word.
I think the entire thread is rather interesting, but it should have
gotten some subject-renamings so that people who did not read the entire
thread (as you, I presume) know what's going on and we do not have to
have this discussion again.
And just for you, here is another thing that has been said somewhere else
in this thread:
there is NOTHING that is 100% compatible with MS-WORD. Not even
MS-WORD, since it keeps updating itself, rendering older version
incompatible. If you need 100% compatibility with MS-WORD, use MS-WORD.
It's a propiretairy (sp?) format, NOT a standard.
And now, please read the rest of this thread before replying to this
posting.
Cheers,
-Jan
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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:50:45 -0700
From: Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Irritating logon screen error.
Hi,
I have a very strange problem with my logon screen (graphical X Windows
logon). It displays like normal, I enter my username and password, and
then it goes back to the logon screen without any sort of error message
or anything. I run KDE 1, on Corel Linux second edition. This error
happens after I install QT version 1.44. Unfortunately, in order to
install some programs I need, exactly version 1.44 is required. Could
this be a simple problem like I'm not running ldconfig, or something
similar? I would very much appreciate help. Thank you.
Victor Dods
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IceWM question
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:36:29 +0100
jhecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi all,
> I am trying to find how to add additional workspaces in Icewm. Checked
> the config file, and the ice config tool, but didn't see it. Does anyone
> know how?
There's a program called icepref.
This has all the config options, including workspaces.
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