Linux-Misc Digest #93, Volume #26 Fri, 20 Oct 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need Sound Advice, please. (Dances With Crows)
Dialing up a Windows PPP server (Andrew J. Perrin)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Apache and authenticated logins help please (Bill Moseley)
Re: Gnapster 1.3.10 (Paul Worrall)
very dumb question (Rona Galica)
Question on syslog and local* (Wes Hall)
cd data track: mount? (Tijmen Stam)
FTP different? ("Micer")
Re: very dumb question (Tijmen Stam)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Matt O'Toole")
TFTP and Red Hat 7.0 (Brian Hughes)
Re: 99% Done, Please help me out with the 1% left (Tijmen Stam)
Re: Exceed with DHCP (Tom Hoffmann)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Surendar Jeyadev)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Surendar Jeyadev)
Re: RAM required? (Tijmen Stam)
Re: Dialing up a Windows PPP server (David Efflandt)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Need Sound Advice, please.
Date: 20 Oct 2000 21:32:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:28:03 GMT, Martin McCormick wrote:
> I have a collection of .wavs that I have gotten from several
>sources and the player handles most of them flawlessly, but a few
>files appear to be variants of the standard .wav format as they play
>fine on DOS and Windows systems, but either exit immediately or cause
>the player to misbehave by producing scratchy sound, hanging at the
>end, or exiting without completely playing the sample file.
> At least the same files always break the same way so there is
>hope to figure out why.
.wav files are not necessarily 16-bit PCM data in Intel byte order with
a small header detailing sample rate and size of the sound. That's the
most common format for a .wav, but it ain't necessarily so. It is
actually possible to put something that's MP3-encoded into a .wav file,
for example. Since Windoze generally derives file type information from
the filename extension, one could argue that putting additional
(contradictory, in this case) information about file types within the
file itself is slightly stupid. Eh well, see what "file $FOO.wav"
returns on those br0ken files?
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin)
Subject: Dialing up a Windows PPP server
Date: 20 Oct 2000 16:46:35 -0500
Greetings. My primary ISP is a university office that runs a PPP
server under NT. They have nobody there that knows anything about
linux, and they don't have a dialog script for connections because
they use windows' default: just type the user id and password in the
pretty boxes and Bill does the rest.
I want to get my linux box dialing up to this ISP; but when I dialin,
I get:
@ userid:
then when I type the userid, I get
Password?
when I type the appropriate password, I get
Shell Access Denied
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to figure out what the
appropriate chat might be? Particularly, any info as to what Windows
considers "default" would be most helpful.
Thanks.
======================================================================
Andrew J Perrin - Ph.D. Candidate, UC Berkeley, Dept. of Sociology
Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:18:29 -0700
"Matt Garman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:gq1I5.4141$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:35:59 -0600, Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > typesetting. Your scientific WORK is what matters most and it is a
> > waste of time and effort to learn something that isn't needed just to
> > ...
> > Gene, Journal of Molecular Evolution, RNA...NONE of them accept latex
> > (tex) format documents. They DO accept word and wordperfect. Some of
> > them accept Wordstar. A few of them accept plain text, which latex
> > _can_ handle in these circumstances.
> > ...
> > Freehand or Illustrator. The EDITOR(s) at the journal gets to deal with
> > all that typesetting crap. That is what they are paid to do.
Most likely, the editor doesn't have to bother with it, either. If there
isn't a graphic artist at the journal, there's probably one at the printer.
Sometimes there are editors who also do layout, but that's not too common
outside the world of punk rock fanzines.
> If the scientist's job is scientific *work* and the editor's job is
> *typesetting*, why does the scientist need to bother with anything but a
> text editor (and something separate for graphs or illustrations, of
> course)?
> If the scientist submits something that's going to be re-typeset by the
> editor anyway, it's foolish to use Word or LaTeX. It seems that in this
> case, the journals should *only* accept in plain text format. What are
> the chances that a scientist is going to submit his article in *exactly*
> the format required by the journal? So, clearly the editor is going to
> spend some time formatting the article to meet the needs of the journal.
> I don't think the editor is going to lose any more time if the article was
> submitted in plain text.
A Word document with half-decent fonts, large/bold headings, and footnotes
is a lot easier for an editor to read than an ascii .txt file. That's what
editors do: they read stuff, make notes, suggest changes, etc. They all
have their preferences: some are particular, some not. I get requests for
everything from plain ascii to "Word is fine," to Postscript or Acrobat with
all kinds of crazy font and style specs. I've found that most editors like
both: raw text that can be manipulated, as well as something they can print
out and read easily, like a nicely formatted Word document, a .pdf, .ps, or
LaTeX file. I've noticed that "nicely typed, double spaced," is still very
popular, and that can be had with a .txt file, Notepad set to double spaced,
and then printed.
To actually start editing the file, they can often resave a Word document to
.txt, cut and paste it, send it to the graphic artist for layout, etc. This
sometimes causes trouble, because with long, complex documents, Word messes
up things like paragraph spacing, etc. However, with shorter documents,
this stuff can be fixed by hand without too much trouble. It's only when
you get into the longer documents that Word becomes a turbo time waster.
And then it's a bona fide pain in the ass.
> In fact, if the journal editor has a Word template for articles appearing
> in his journal, then it seems as though he'd *prefer* plain text.
Perhaps, but this is unlikely, too. All journals, magazines, etc. are laid
out by hand, page by page, and so are all quality books. The graphic artist
will be cutting and pasting blocks of raw text by hand into Pagemaker or
Quark anyway.
As I said before, the main users of LaTeX files are university presses, who
cut costs by eliminating the graphic artist. But look at the typical
university press book. They look terrific compared to a Word document. But
they all look pretty much the same, and don't look nearly as good as books
done page by page by a good designer.
> So Word is *still* a waste, because the money the scientist spent on Word
> could have gone towards hardware or other scientific tools.
80 bucks, or it came with the computer. Big deal.
Matt O.
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From: Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache and authenticated logins help please
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:49:49 -0700
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:55:15 GMT Alvaro Muir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
remarked...
> Is there an easy way to have a page prompt for a usrname and password in
> apache, without javascript? I cant find it in the man or the conf file.
You would be better off asking in a group that discusses Apache, of
course.
The Apache FAQ pointed to this:
http://www.apacheweek.com/features/userauth
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Bill Moseley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Worrall)
Subject: Re: Gnapster 1.3.10
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:08:56 +0100
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:38:47 -0400, Doug Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I forgot to mention that I've just downloaded and set this program up a
>few days ago - so I imaging it has something to do with the set-up.
>
>Doug Angus wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Seem to be having trouble with gnapster 1.3.10 - it's always giving me
>> "Napster query server reported all servers were busy" at all times of
>> the day.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, Doug
>
I had the same problem with 1.3.10, but 1.3.12 works fine.
Get it from jasta.gotlinux.org
--
Paul
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From: Rona Galica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: very dumb question
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:45:18 -0400
I need to find out if 2 machines have exactly the same versions and
patches. Can anyone tell me how to find out what the version is and
patches are?
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From: Wes Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question on syslog and local*
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:48:55 -0400
Can the syslog facility local0 thru local7 receive logging from a
network device? I have a couple of switches logging to local7 but the
information is not being put in the file defined for local7. I know the
information is getting to the server because the messages are showing up
in the *.info and *.* defined files.
Thanks
wes
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cd data track: mount?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:28:21 +0200
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I've got this pepsi promotional cd of "anouk", a famous dutch singer.
the cover sais: 1: break down the wall, 2: links, 3: interviews 4:
photos....
So the song was okay, but When I wanted the photos and interviews, I
just mounted the cd, but It only showed a readme file giving a copyright
notice. cdparanoia -q gives me only 1 track, cdp 2, of wich the first
goes from 0:02 to 6:09 (while acoording to cdparanoia it's just 3:37)
and the second is a DATA TRACK, and goes from 6:11 to 1345:40 (cool!).
I tried dd if=/dev/hdb of=image.iso, either to mount the file or hack it
manually but that gives an i/o error (0+0 rec in, 0+0 out).
Looking at the cd itself I see at first a 2.5 mm ring wich is possibly
the music (should be 3min=30 meg, then a 2 mm ring wich looks like a
session boundary (corresponds with the expected 22 meg, and then 1.5 mm
another track, wich should be about 10-15 meg. Too big for the session
containing that simple readme file, but if it's the data track, the must
be a very weird cd layout: first session: audio (1 track, the session
boundary (22 meg), then the images, on a audio track (marked as data
track), and then the readme file in a third data session??? (but then
you should see the 11 meg wide 2nd session boundary... Weird...
but anyway, has anybody got any idea how i access this cd, without using
microsoft?
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP different?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:17:46 -0700
We have WU_FTP running on a Linux box.
We can tap into it from a DOS command line by entering "ftp", then entering
the username and password. Once connected we can do an "ls" to list the
files and a "get" to download any of them successfully. All is well.
However, when we open Internet Explorer 4 or 5 to download the same files we
will see a list of the files at the FTP site but cannot download them
successfully. For example, we enter ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(where we replace "username" with the real username, etc). A list of the
appropriate ftp files available appears in the browser. But when we
right-click any of the items and attempt to save them to a folder nothing at
all happens. Or else, if we double-click any file and say "save to disk" a
transfer box appears that says "0 bytes". We go to the local disk and indeed
the file is there but has zero bytes!
Why whould Explorer not save the files but the DOS "ftp" command (from an NT
client) will? If the Linux box FTP server works when accessed from an ftp
prompt in DOS then why wouldn't it also be set up correctly for any other
ftp client?
Does this suggest that our explorers are all set up with wrong parameters,
or could there be a folder or permissions problem on the Linux box that
permits the DOS "ftp" command to work but not a browser "ftp" access?
Thanks,
Micer
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: very dumb question
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:33:08 +0200
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Rona Galica wrote:
> I need to find out if 2 machines have exactly the same versions and
> patches. Can anyone tell me how to find out what the version is and
> patches are?
Assuming a different version might have a different filesize, here's a
*very* rude method:
ls --size --block-size=1 > tempfile1 (and on the other pc to tempfile2),
copy the files to the same pc, and do a diff...
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:26:47 -0700
"Matt Garman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:x12I5.4153$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Lyx, TeX, LaTeX, pdflatex, dvips, pstopdf, mpage, bibtex, xfig...
>
> Let's not forget that all of these software typesetting tools are *free*.
> The money a corporation or organization saves on software licensing costs
> (of Windows, Word, etc) *easily* justifies the cost of training employees
> how to use these free tools.
Fine, we'll put you in charge of IT at these companies, and you can show
them all how they've been doing it wrong all these years. IT costs are high
for any company. If you can save them money, they're all ears. My guess is
that you probably can't.
> This is conjecture, but I don't see how *any* organization could fail to
> show long term savings by switching to free software and investing in
> employee training.
>
> Training is a one time or very sporadic event. Software licensing is
> continuous.
Only if you have zero turnover, which isn't the case ever, and especially
these days. Most "administrative assistants" come pre-trained in Word, etc.
Matt O.
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From: Brian Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TFTP and Red Hat 7.0
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:28:05 -0600
Hi Folks,
I do not seem to be able to get TFTP to work with RH 7.0.
When attempting to do a wite net from a Cisco router I get the error
message "%Error opening tftp://shamrock/isugw-confg (Undefined error)
[Failed]"
/etc/xinetd.d/tftp looks like:
service tftp
{
disable = no
socket_type = dgram
wait = yes
user = nobody
log_on_success += USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s /tftpboot
}
/tftpboot permissions look like:
drw-rw-rw- 2 root root 4096 Oct 20 14:33 tftpboot
Permissions on the file I'm trying to write look like:
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Oct 20 14:33
/tftpboot/isugw-confg
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
--
Best Regards,
Brian
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 99% Done, Please help me out with the 1% left
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:53:07 +0200
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1) I use to use QuickBooks Pro on windows for running my bus, Does
> anyone use someone good??
I dunno. MS sucks. Go away!
> 2) I am a DJ and I burn alot of music cd. I use to make a master cd
> and then burn copies on windows. Now that I am using Redhat.
> How do I copy music cd's (no gaps on the track changes)??
> One more thing I only have one cd-rom so I have to make a image
> and then burn the copies.
I just recently mastered this: I assume U use cdrecord to burn cd's, then
use the -dao option to remove the track gaps. This also works for
multisession cd's (so it should be sao, session at once). The making of
an audio image is easiest by ripping the master (for example with
cdparanoia) , and then
cdrecord -v dev=??? speed=??? -audio -pad -eject *.wav
(I don't have all cd's I ripped, I just put them as mp3 on my hd. I use
the following script:)
#!/bin/bash
for I in *.mp3
do
mpg123 -v -s -r 44100 --stereo --wav "$I.wav" "$I"
#converts all mp3 to wav
done
cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=6 -pad -multi -audio -dao *.wav #burns
all *.wav tracks in order, so name them 01 ...
mkisofs -r -j -C $(cdroecord dev=0,0,0 -msinfo) -o image.iso *.mp3 #
makes the data session for the mp3's
cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=6 -pad -eject fs=6m image.iso #
and burns it too, and ejects the cd.
rm -f *.wav image.iso
# end script
Always check if *.wav +*.mp3 +33 +13 < 650/700 MB!!!
I've never encountered a cd playe having problems with this approach
(exept one that didn't eat 80 min cd's, and on that didn't wand burned
cd's at all.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: Exceed with DHCP
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:48:13 GMT
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:14:21 GMT, William Rhodes wrote:
>Make sure your Linux box can ping your PC by name, then export your
>display using your PC's name instead of an IP Address.
>
>export DISPLAY=mypc:0
I use Exceed with a DHCP supplied address with no problem. What error
are you getting? Is your $DISPLAY variable set to the DHCP address?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Surendar Jeyadev)
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 20 Oct 2000 15:19:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Andrew J. Perrin" wrote:
>>
>> Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin),
>> > In a message on 17 Oct 2000 19:14:06 -0400, wrote :
>> >
>> > AJP> Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > AJP>
>> > AJP> > Roberto Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > AJP> > In a message on 16 Oct 2000 17:15:08 -0400, wrote :
>> > AJP> >
>> > AJP> > RT> >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > AJP> > RT>
>> > AJP> > RT> Jan> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document
>> > AJP> > RT> Jan> FOrmat - D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
>> > AJP> > RT>
>> > AJP> > RT> Not to start a document format war, but isn't PDF a proprietary
>> > AJP> > RT> format? What about PS? I don't know if PS is proprietary, but it sure
>> > AJP> > RT> is *very* portable
>> > AJP> >
>> > AJP> > Except for MS-Windows boxes....
>> > AJP>
>> > AJP> gsview32 exists for windows and displays postscript fine.
>> >
>> > True, but *most* MS-Windows people don't know this.
>>
>> ah yes, but this would be a problem with the people, not their boxes....
>
>Can you edit/change a ps or pdf? No. They are both useless if you
^^
Whaaaaaa? Am I missing something?
>intend to
>make later changes or have collaborators who are expected to make
>changes or
>revisions to a document.
Do it all the time with ps -- which is why we do not use Word for
anything significant. The formatting gets totalling messed up even
with the same version.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Surendar Jeyadev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 20 Oct 2000 15:27:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <TwJH5.698$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:25:05 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the
>business
>> >of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn
>programming to
>> >do that.
>>
>> You have an exceedingly unprofessional attitude regarding your tools.
>
>I agree. Wait until you have to manually chop an extra blank line out of
>each page of 1000 pages, or manually renumber 1000 pages worth of headings,
>etc. This is the kind of crap that drives people nuts with Word. It's a
Yes, that is what I should have added in my previous note. Sometime back
we had an 25 page article with figures and graphs and captions ....
While going through the 'final' version, we noticed a missing comma. So
we put it in and BANG, the entire layout went to smithereens!! Captions,
figures, graphs and text flew all over. We ended up with a totally
scrambled document. That was the last time we have used it for anything
meaningful! Of course, lots of life is meaningless and so there is a
place for Word -- rather large one, actually. :-)
>turbocharged time waster. If you really need to format your documents,
>you're far better off learning to use "real" tools like LaTeX, or even
>Framemaker, which, BTW, is the industry standard for professional writers
>(most of whom are employed as technical writers). If you don't want to
>bother with that, then for heaven's sake stick with *.txt files, so the
>person in charge of formatting can manage the content without wasting hours
>or days udoing Word turds.
>
>For shorter documents like magazine or journal articles, it doesn't take as
>long to undo the garbage. So most editors and designers don't care as much,
>if the writer is comfortable using Word (for the spell checker, dictionary,
>etc.)
>
>Matt O.
>
>
>
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM required?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 02:17:53 +0200
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Micer wrote:
> To run an Apache webserver with SSH, PPTP (Poptop?), and an ipchains
> packet-filtering firewall how much RAM would be reasonable (32 meg, 64 meg
> ???).
depends on the workload: If it's a university ftp server, or the linux.org
sit, I'd suggest an quad-Xeon with 2048 Meg Ram and a RAID-5 320 gyg U2W SCSI
interface, and something better then redhat. But if it's just your own site
havin no more than 100 visitors a day, 32 would *easily* do.
> To run an ipchains packet-filtering firewall with no services (just
> packet-filtering and as a MASQ forwarding router) how much memory would be
> required (16 meg? 32 meg???).
16??? I think if you've got 2 MB, that's enough for this....
> Thanks,
> Micer
My advice: save the mony and buy a good linux book! (that sound more negative
than it's meant...)
Tijmen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Dialing up a Windows PPP server
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:07:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Oct 2000, Andrew J. Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings. My primary ISP is a university office that runs a PPP
>server under NT. They have nobody there that knows anything about
>linux, and they don't have a dialog script for connections because
>they use windows' default: just type the user id and password in the
>pretty boxes and Bill does the rest.
>
>I want to get my linux box dialing up to this ISP; but when I dialin,
>I get:
>
>@ userid:
>
>then when I type the userid, I get
>
>Password?
>
>when I type the appropriate password, I get
>
>Shell Access Denied
>
>Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to figure out what the
>appropriate chat might be? Particularly, any info as to what Windows
>considers "default" would be most helpful.
If you don't need a script for Windows, you don't need a chat script for
Linux other than to set any modem string (if needed), dial out, then end
when you get the CONNECT string. Try setting up a connection using PAP
authentication. Just hope that they do not require chap80 which I think
pppd supports now, but I have never had to deal with it (it would require
chap-secrets settings).
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