Linux-Misc Digest #190, Volume #26 Tue, 31 Oct 00 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: mp3 (Dances With Crows)
Re: unresolved symbol (Dan Amborn)
Re: NETSCAPE - bus error (Greg Robinson)
Redefining %_rpmdir (Vince)
Re: Corporate email help ("MNJP")
Windows98 / Linux 6.2 dual boot (kan)
Re: Netscape weirdness et al [was: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?]
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wget: Stop It from background downloading? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SU Problem...Any ideas? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help for new Linux users (sfcybear)
Re: Microsoft Linux? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux and Palm (Christopher Browne)
Re: How to use the floppy drive in Linux (Christopher Browne)
Re: (Urgent) Linux-on-PowerPC Assemblers (Christopher Browne)
Re: Which is the best distribution? (Stephen Marotta)
I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mp3
Date: 31 Oct 2000 02:44:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Oct 2000 18:53:36 GMT, John Nilsson wrote:
>I have searched the web, and Deja, in vain for an answer to this
>apparently not to difficult question. I hope that someone can give me a
>nice newbiefriendly answer :) The problem is that when I play mp3-files
>(with xmms or mpg123) the sound skips heavily when I open programs, or
>sometimes even when I just move windows around. Some of these problems
>disappear if I use the 'realtime priority' option in xmms, but then you
>have to run it as root. That shouldn't be necessary, or? My computer
>is a Dell XPS-R350 with a PII 350MHz, 128Mb memory, TurtleBeach Montego
>soundcard. Never had this kind of problem in Windows.
Which version of xmms, and does it happen if you use another mp3 player
like mpg123? IIRC there were some xmms versions that hogged the CPU
thanks to a bug or 3--you might try getting the latest RPM from
http://xmms.org/ and "rpm -Uvh"ing it.
Another possibility is that your hard drive(s) aren't running as quickly
as they should. As root, execute the commands "hdparm -tT /dev/hda",
then "hdparm -m16 -u1 -c1 /dev/hda", then "hdparm -tT /dev/hda". The
last run should show improvement of some sort. That should help general
system performance, not just mp3 playing. Put that command in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local (/sbin/init.d/boot.local if you're using SuSE) to
make it execute automagically at every bootup, and "man hdparm" for info
on what this command does. HTH, good luck....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Dan Amborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unresolved symbol
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:50:11 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:26:22 -0400, "David ...."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When compiling the kernel you should do a "make mrproper"=20
>then the "make config"
what does "make mrproper" do anyway?
--
Dan Amborn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yoda of Borg are we: Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will.
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From: Greg Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NETSCAPE - bus error
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:56:32 +0000
root wrote:
>
> Sigh. Hello again - just when u sort out one prob, up comes another!!!
>
> I'm using netscape v4.6 under mandrake v7(?)
>
> If I open multiple windows and then close them later, the whole damn suite
> shutsdown with a 'bus error' reported to the console(launched from console in
> mandrake).
>
> New netscape versions haven't helped thus far.
>
> Anyone with a fix that doens't involve tossing out netsape, bring it on!
>
> Thanks in advance for your input
>
> Shane/
My advice is to go back to an earlier version of netscape. I had far
more problems with 4.76, now I'm using 4.71 which is much better.
Make sure your glibc is up to date as well...
GTR
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From: Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redefining %_rpmdir
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:55:50 GMT
I am trying to build an rpm using the following command in a shell
script.
"
rpm -bb foo.spec -vv --define "_rpmdir /home/vince/images " && STATUS=OK
"
The failure I get is:
"Unable to open /home/vince/images/i386/foo-2.1-0.rpm"
If I create the directory myself:
mkdir /home/vince/images/i386
everything works fine. I am running Redhat 6.1 and RPM 3.0.3
Also one peculiar thing I noticed is that I don't have this problem on
Sparc Solaris running RPM 3.0.5
Upgrading RPM is a last resort as is hardcoding i386 since this needs
to run on multiple machines of different architectures. Is there a
workaround for this or a way to detect what directory should be created
(i386, sparc, sparc64 etc..) that I can put in my script?
Thanks,
Vince
--
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never intended.
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From: "MNJP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Corporate email help
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:20:17 GMT
If you really want performance check out cucipop. It has blown away every
single popper I've tried :)
"Marcel Loesberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Diehard Duck wrote:
>
> > I'm not an advanced user but I think a basic machine such as a standard
> > pentium with decent memory would do the job. You would need to run
> > sendmail/exim/equivalent and a pop3 daemon such as GnuPop3d. Then just
set
> > up each user and get DNS pointed to your IP of the server and away you
go.
>
> Only I would use qpopper in stead of GnuPOP3D.
> GnuPOP3D has some serious performance issues.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marcel
>
> >
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > "Phil Labonte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:XnhL5.19767$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I work for a small company of approx 70 employees, we plan to grow to
> > about
> > > 200 in the next year.
> > >
> > > What kind of linux solutions are there for email? We want to host our
own
> > > email internally, right now we use our isp.
> > >
> > > I checked and for Microsoft Exchange it would cost us about 10000$ in
> > > licenses and hardware. What are some Linux solutions that would work
with
> > > our small company?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Phil Labonte
> > >
> > >
>
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From: kan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows98 / Linux 6.2 dual boot
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:30:05 -0000
hello, does anyone know the requirement and configuration for making my
system into a "dual boot"? I'd reformatted my system and would like to
make it into a dual boot system. I need to know the procedure of doing it.
kan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape weirdness et al [was: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for
Linux?]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:21:32 GMT
: Jean-David Beyer wrote:
:>I want one tool that works for e-mail, browsing, and
:>newsgroups. That way, when I am running the browser or the
That isn't the UNIX way ....
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Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You're one of those condescending UNIX users! ...."
"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: wget: Stop It from background downloading?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:37:52 GMT
wget appears to be downloading in the background by default, does
anybody know how to rectify that behavior.
I have a script that goes something like:
wget -O file.html http://someplace.com/somepage.html
grep some-text file.html
The problem is file.html continues growing even after the script is
completed. This also has the side effect that I get "...." messing up my
screen when I thought wget was all done with, and there it is running in
the background without my permission. I need wget to wait until all of
file.html is downloaded before letting the script continue.
Thanks,
-Tony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SU Problem...Any ideas?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:37:13 GMT
I'm not sure what changed.....
Point well taken on your second comment...thanks!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
wrote:
> In article <8tklnk$54u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >No, it doesn't work even over SSH. This is very frustrating.
> >Any other ideas?
> >
>
> What did you change between "it used to work" and "it doesn't
> anymore"?
>
> >ps. What is wrong with SSHing with Root, doesn't the password get
> >encrytped before sending?
>
> Yes, it is. But don't you think it's safer to disallow root to login
> via ssh and in that way force the occasional cracker to have to
> guess/crack two passwords instead of just one?
>
> You shouldn't feel "safe" just because you use ssh.
>
> /A
>
> >
> >Thanks for your help!
> >Aaron.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
> >wrote:
> >> In article <8tkdoh$tef$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >> >I used to be able to telnet into my box as a regular user
and "su -"
> >> >for root privileges. However, now I can not...it says the
Password is
> >> >incorrect...
> >>
> >> That's probably a good thing. Telnet is too insecure to do root
stuff
> >> over.
> >>
> >> >but I know the password for root and I can login as root
> >> >via SSH.
> >>
> >> Hmmm, that's not at all good. One usually does not allow root to
> >> login directly from any connection (instead, use ssh to an ordinary
> >> user account and then 'su -' from there).
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Can anyone give me an idea how I can enable the su to work as it
did
> >> >before?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Does 'su -' work when connecting with ssh?
> >>
> >> /A
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden (until 1:st of Dec.
2000)
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> >--
> >> "If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
> >> -- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986. Visit www.gnu.org
> >>
> >
> >
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>
> --
> Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden (until 1:st of Dec. 2000)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.imux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help for new Linux users
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:39:19 GMT
Oddly, when I was a newbe and used the news groups, I never got a reply
like: "RTFM", "Have you read the FAQs?", and "Just re-compile the
> kernel"...
I did get directed to the correct howto via a link once. My advice to
newbe's is to do the following:
Look to the Linux Documentation Project
Use a news reader that can search a group then search on some keywords
about you problem. Many times the answer is aready there.
Look in /usr/doc for help with an application
if you still can not find a solution post to the right news group (ie,
don't post a question like "how do I start Xwindows" to the networking
group.
Important info to include:
Linux Distribution and version
hardware involved (ix86 sparc...)
What it is you are trying to do
What step you were on when you hit the probem
the error message or any other strange goings on.
ASK a question in a nice way. The people who "work" the news groups are
NOT getting paid and respond better if you are NICE!
Do NOT be demanding or insulting.
If you show that you have already tried to find the answer your self
(ie, I tried reading the ppp Howto but I don't understand what's going
on with "chap". Here's what I have tried and here's where I'm stuck.)
These steps worked every time for me. I only needed to post a few times
and I learned the value of "RTFM" There is a lot of good information
there and it is about the fastes way to get to where you want to go
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am a Linux user and advocate...
> I am a former Windows user myself...
> I want to help other Windows users convert to Linux.
> I feel that this forum and others like it are poorly suited to this
> purpose.
> Most Windows users don't read manuals and aren't programmers and
> therefore...
> Answers like "RTFM", "Have you read the FAQs?", and "Just re-compile
the
> kernel"...
> Are not good answers for Windows users trying Linux for the first
time.
> This isn't helpful, feels like an attack, and drives these folks
away...
>
> Which is not good for Linux in the short term or long run.
>
> If you feel the same way, and are knowledgeable about Linux...
> And can spend a little time answering questions...
> And don't mind answering simple questions...
> Don't mind answering them repeatedly...
> And can do it without anger, contempt, egotism, condescendence, etc...
> Please e-mail me so we can create a place condusive to the goal...
> Of helping average Window users try Linux and convert to Linux.
>
> --
> Ken Schrock
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:10:54 GMT
In our last episode (Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:22:39 GMT),
the artist formerly known as John Hasler said:
>Leonard Evens writes:
>> If Linux is a system used by a small community of hobbyists and
>> experimenters and can't get any serious work done because it can't
>> communicate with the rest of the computer world, it won't go anywhere.
>
>Since none of that is true, however...
Indeed.
Linux is a system used by a _large_ community of hobbyists,
experimenters, and _seasoned computing professionals_, that gets
rather a lot of serious computing done specifically because it is a
reasonably robust networking platform that is unparalleled in its
ability to communicate with disparate kinds of computer systems.
Between TCP/IP, Kermit, CORBA, SAMBA, DECnet, Linux SNA, MARS, SNMP,
and such, the notion that Linux "can't communicate with the rest of
the computer world" is so laughable that anyone that knows what these
technologies are could laugh themselves sick.
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to attack the hero en masse, instead of standing around waiting while
members break off and attack one or two at a time."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux and Palm
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:12:07 GMT
In our last episode (Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:53:49 GMT),
the artist formerly known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Does anyone know of a program for linux that can create doc files for
> that palm? I have one on windows
> called bigdoc, but it would be really usefull to have one for linux.
<http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/links/makedoc>
> Also is there a utility for unix that can read palm .pdb and/or .prc
> files. I usr pilot-link for everything else
> but it doesn't seem to have this functionality.
The pilot-link "suite" has some tools that read data from .prc files;
you might also look at the fairly interesting page:
<http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/linux.html>
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... The book [CLtL1] is about 400 pages of 8.5" by 11" Dover output.
Apparently the publisher and typesetter decided that this made the lines
too wide for easy reading, so they will use a 6" by 9" format. This
will make the shape of the book approximately cubical. Now, there are
26 chapters counting the index, and a Rubik's cube has 26 exterior cubies.
I'll let you individually extrapolate and fantasize from there.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: How to use the floppy drive in Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:12:10 GMT
In our last episode (Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:45:55 GMT),
the artist formerly known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>I'm new in Linux world; I need to know how to use the floppy drive.How
>do I copy files from hard drive to floppy and how from floppy to hard
>drive. What commands should I use?
There are multiple ways to do this:
a) The "mtools" suite provides commands corresponding to dir/copy,
namely "mdir" and "mcopy".
You might do:
# mdir a:
[lists files on the floppy]
# mcopy a:thisfile.txt /tmp/something.txt
[copies the file from floppy to a local filesystem]
b) You may "mount" the floppy, and pretend it is an ordinary
directory.
A relevant sequence of commands:
# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
# ls -l /mnt/floppy
# cp /mnt/floppy/thisfile.txt /tmp/something.txt
# umount /mnt/floppy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: (Urgent) Linux-on-PowerPC Assemblers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:09:41 GMT
In our last episode (26 Oct 2000 13:44:44 GMT),
the artist formerly known as nathan wagner said:
>On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:12:19 -0400,
>Stack Offset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Please respond to this by e-mail *only* : I do not ordinarily browse internet
>>newsgroups.
>
>Post it here, read it here. We're not your personal research assistant.
>*plonk*
... Unless the one requiring the research assistance is prepared to
pay our low, low hourly consulting rates. $100/hour, minimum of 8
hours, _cash_ in advance... PayPal likely acceptable...
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branches, collars are turned up against a wind which murmurs of
winter, and homework assignments appear on Usenet. <sigh>"
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From: Stephen Marotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which is the best distribution?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:11:51 -0500
Victor Dods wrote:
> I have been using Corel Linux recently, and have found it to be very
> irritating to use. I has modified libraries and such which complicate
> installing many things. In light of this, I want to install a different
> flavor of Linux, and would like to know people's opinions on the
> matter. I was thinking either Red Hat or Debian, because of the nice
> package features, although I've heard conflicting accounts for all
> different distributions of Linux. Anyway, give me your two cents!
>
> Victor Dods
Depends on what it is you want out of your distribution. If you want
something with nice packaging features and a nice user-friendly environment
in general, I would go with Red Hat, or even Mandrake, which is geared most
toward being a "desktop OS" version of Linux. I don't know too much about
Debian, so other people would probably be more enlightening than I.
Mandrake is compatible with the RPM packaging system, because it was
originally a spinoff of Red Hat. Now it's different enough to be its own
distribution, but it still has the conveniences. Anyway, I hope that
helps.
/* Steve */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t...
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:27:06 GMT
Hi,
I don't know if anyone has any ideas about this, or know if it can be
done so here goes:
I have an old Amiga SCSI drive with data I want to retrieve, I've
fired up linux and all is well except there is no PC partition info on
the Amiga drive. Has anyone ever managed to attach an Amiga SCSI drive
to a PC and read the data off it? If so can you let me know how? (The
Amiga is dead :-(
Thanks,
Anthony
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