Linux-Misc Digest #224, Volume #26 Fri, 3 Nov 00 23:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: device is busy & filesystem issues (Hal Burgiss)
Re: CDROM problems (Dances With Crows)
Re: help with httpd (Dances With Crows)
Re: Disk buffer... (Dances With Crows)
Re: free internet for Linux? (Garry Knight)
Re: installation of KDE2.0 disables Gnome using GDM (Garry Knight)
Re: Whats good about debian and slackware? (Christopher Browne)
eOne and Linux - modem question ("Jon")
Re: help with httpd (Christopher Browne)
Re: Re: kde2 (qt-2.2.1) compile time? ("Ed Walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dell Optiplex GX110, Rage 128 Pro (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: troff (Floyd Davidson)
hang on 'remounting root filesystem'? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives? (William McBrine)
Re: troff (Trevor Brown)
Re: Whats good about debian and slackware? (Robert Grizzard)
Hostname Lookup Failure outgoing mail (GEDEOND)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: device is busy & filesystem issues
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 02:16:22 GMT
On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 02:09:22 GMT, Christopher Browne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>--> If I do:
> % cd /mnt/floppy
>Then /mnt/floppy is is "busy."
Another gotcha:
% cd /mnt/floppy
% top
% cd /
Then /mnt/floppy is also "busy." Just starting a program (any program)
from that filesytem will keep it busy until the program terminates.
You can probably find this stuff with 'lsof | grep floppy'.
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Hal B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: CDROM problems
Date: 4 Nov 2000 02:21:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:06:20 GMT, inon21 wrote:
>Thanks for the reply. The kernel is 2.2.16, CD-ROM is Acer 50x (IDE)
>jumpered as slave. Master device is the hdd that has linux installed.
These are the exact models that Linux had trouble with. Oddly enough, I
thought they were fixed in kernels > 2.2.15. Anyway, try compiling your
own kernel from the latest stable source (2.2.17) and hope it works.
Good luck....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: help with httpd
Date: 4 Nov 2000 02:21:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 21:37:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>on my linux box i have a running http daemon (redhat 6.2) when i do a
>'ps ax' i can see 5 PIDs for httpd. two of the have [httpd] and three
>appear as httpd, all are consecutive PIDs like 585, 586, 587, 588 and
>589. ok, is there a way to find as to which http server it is and
>where is its config file.
Did you read the documentation for Apache? Have you tried looking at
file:/usr/doc/apache*/ and at http://127.0.0.1/ ? The httpd process
with the lowest number is the parent process and does not actually serve
web pages. The children serve web pages, and the parent kills them when
they've served a certain number of requests. The parent will start more
children if each child is busy, and will also give children a boot if
they've hung up. The config file for Apache in a stock RedHad 6.2
install is at file:/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf , so take a look at it.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Disk buffer...
Date: 4 Nov 2000 02:21:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:07:28 -0600, Amine M Jekki wrote:
>I was wonderinf if anybody knows in which config file I can locate the
>disk buffer size configured for my hard drive.
? What exactly do you mean by this? Please define what you mean by
"disk buffer size", and then someone can most likely help you.
If you mean, "How many writes will be cached in RAM before the changes
are flushed to disk", then do "man 8 update" and try out the -d option.
The sync() system call is made about every 30 seconds anyway, and you
can call it yourself if you want. If you mean, "How much RAM is used to
cache files that were retrieved from disk?" then the answer is "Almost
every bit of RAM that isn't being directly used by applications or the
kernel."
Messing with these things is generally not necessary for anybody except
kernel hackers. Also, the block-device buffer cache has changed a bit
between 2.2.x and 2.4.x and is likely to change even further when 2.5
starts up. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free internet for Linux?
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:31:56 +0000
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Database wrote:
>Is there any providers that have free internet access for Linux?
Sure. There's http://www.uklinux.net
Oh, but then you didn't say which country you're in...
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Garry Knight
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x.kde,news.groups.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installation of KDE2.0 disables Gnome using GDM
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:37:41 +0000
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Juergen Helmers wrote:
>Sice I installed KDE2.0, Each time I restart the Xserver,
>the option of running Gnome upon login under GDM is not available anymore.
Create the file .xsession in your home directory, containing the following line:
exec gnome-session
--
Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Whats good about debian and slackware?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:02:33 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when J.Smith would say:
>> All of them. What do you mean by parts?
>>
>
>I would just like to know, from the people that use these two distro's:
>What makes them so good, for you personally? What do you really like
>about them? Because I dont really have any info on that yet, I would
>just really like to know.
Speaking for Debian, the prime merit of it, over "all the others," comes
from two things:
a) The packaging tools make it extremely easy to upgrade things,
which is helpful in outright avoiding security problems.
b) Many, many people are involved in maintaining the packages, many
of whom are pretty obsessive about keeping them nicely up to date;
you don't have a situation of 250 packages that are updated when
one person gets Around To It.
>> Slackware is just excellently compiled (no mistakes). Debian has
>> fantastic maintenance backup (all mistakes repaired when you
>> complain).
>
>That would then be some of the 'parts/items/features' that makes these
>distro's so good. What else is really good about these two distro's ?
The other thing for Debian is that there is a Simply Enormous Amount
Of Software prepared for it; 5000-odd software packages...
>> Why would you think twice?
>
>Because I do not yet know what makes these distro's so good. You have
>to understand that I already spend some time downloading Redhat,
>Mandrake and SuSe, only to find out that they where not quite right for
>me. I based my decision for these distro's on the fact that they are
>'well-known' to the general public. I would just like to be able to
>make a more informed and therfore better decision this time around :)
... Build a scratch system, and try some of them out...
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
Rules of the Evil Overlord #78. "I will not tell my Legions of Terror
"And he must be taken alive!" The command will be: ``And try to take him
alive if it is reasonably practical.''" <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: eOne and Linux - modem question
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 21:05:12 -0600
Hi,
I am a Linux newbie :-)
I have an eOne running Linux and seek modem info:
I run :
eOne from eMachines
PII 433 mHz
64MB RAM
6 GB hd
RH7
Gnome
Enlightenment wm
XFree86-4.0.01
No OS besides Linux
As far as I can tell from their web site and my "documentation"
this machine has a winmodem (I know, I know) of this flavor:
HSP MicroModem 56K PCI set up on COM 4 IRQ 3
That's all I can find.
Has anyone succeeded in getting this sucker hooked to the web via Linux?
If so, how?
I have a spare 28.8 ISA Motorola modem. ("hardware" modem)
Does anyone know if I crack open this weirdo case on the eOne
whether there is an open ISA slot I could use for this modem?
Suggestions, Urls, sympathy <g> appreciated :-)
--
Jon - I love Jesus Christ
http://www.jonsplace.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: help with httpd
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:09:45 GMT
In our last episode (Fri, 03 Nov 2000 21:37:59 GMT),
the artist formerly known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>on my linux box i have a running http daemon (redhat 6.2)
>
>when i do a 'ps ax' i can see 5 PIDs for httpd.
>two of the have [httpd] and three appear as httpd, all are
>consecutive PIDs like 585, 586, 587, 588 and 589.
>
>ok, is there a way to find as to which http server it is
>and where is its config file.
It is very likely to be Apache, by default. The fact of there
being 5 PIDs is a tell-tale sign too; that is a common Apache
default.
You might look at /etc/inittab to see what the default runlevel is,
and then look in /etc/rc.d/rc*[runlevel] to see what daemons are
started up when you boot the system.
You might also look in /proc and at the 'virtual subdirectories' under
that, looking for those "directories" that exist for those five
processes. One of the "virtual files" in the "virtual subdirectory"
should contain the name of the program that was run, which can help
you trace back to answer "Which httpd is this?"
Assuming it was apache, try:
# rpm -q -l apache
to list all of the files in the apache package; you might filter that
through "grep etc" to just find config files...
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "ntlug.org")
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
Why is it that when you're driving and looking for an address, you
turn down the volume on the radio?
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Subject: Re: Re: kde2 (qt-2.2.1) compile time?
From: "Ed Walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:11:59 GMT
I am running dual PII 450 zeons and it took around 2 hours.
Ed
> MH wrote:
>
> > "Kirk R. Wythers" wrote:
> > >
> > > How long has it taken you all to compile qt-2.2.1? I'm on a reasonably
> > > fast machine P-III 600 with lots of ram and it's been at it for over an
> > > hour now. I'm running RH7.0 which includes qt-2.2.0... So here I sit,
> > > watching what appears to be allot of source code compile...
> > >
> >
> > Took me nearly 2 hours on a P333.
> >
>
> My P-11 233 took 5+ hours ....
>
> Paul
>
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex GX110, Rage 128 Pro
Date: 4 Nov 2000 03:15:01 GMT
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trying to install Mandrake 7.1 on a Dell Optiplex GX110 with onboard
> Intel i810 chipset and an add in ATI All in Wonder 128 Pro video card.
> We are having great trouble installing. We cannot figure out how to
> disable the onboard video card-- Dows anyone know?
You can disable it in the BIOS (hit F2 (or delete, I always forget)) during
the memory check.
> We cannot seem to get it to see the ATI 128 Pro card-- is this supported
> in Xfree 3.3.6 or 4.0.1?
It is supported in 3.3.6 -- I'm not sure about 4.0.1.
There's a HOWTO here:
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: troff
Date: 03 Nov 2000 17:17:27 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Brown) wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Does anyone know how to underline in troff? I've tried .ul and .cu, but
>these only underline in nroff -- in troff, they italicize.
Here is a macro to underline a single word, which may be followed by a
second token that will not be underlined (usually used to add punctuation
at the end of the word).
.de UL
\\$1\l'|0\(ul'\\$1
..
The macro can be used like this:
.UL Hello ,
Which will print
_Hello_,
(The above is from "UNIX Text Processing", 1987, Dougherty and O'Reilly.)
However, a little experimenting indicated that at least when groff is used
with output to a PostScript file and viewed with ghostscript, the position
of the underline can be adjusted to produce much better looking results.
By changing the font size, the underline is moved up or down. Here is
an example which reduces the font size, and hence moves the underline
closer to the actual text:
.de UL
\\$1\s-5\l'|0\(ul'\s0\\$1
..
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 21:15:09 -0500
Subject: hang on 'remounting root filesystem'?
Greetings!
I had to crash out of Linux tonight -- power switch! --; I was fooling
with nfs and got stuck.
It did it's 'forced checking' routine and gave a [PASSED]; then it seems
to hang at REMOUNTING ROOT FILESYSTEM IN READ-WRITE MODE, altho it
indicates [OK] so perhaps the hang is just after this routine.
I just discovered I don't have a serviceable bootdisk (I'm going to see if
I can get that 'tomsrtbt' bootdisk) but even if I could boot into the
system, I'm not sure what I'm looking to correct.
I welcome some help here; thanks!
It's a RedHat 6.0 system (laptop); I was doing nfs via a pcmcia card to my
desktop. The HD is otherwise intact -- I'm using it now in OS/2 and the RH
cdrom sees the HD though I noticed it hanged also on trying to create a
rescue disk.
F.
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Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives?
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:23:31 GMT
I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> user_pref("browser.cache.directory", "/home/jdbeyer/.netscape/cache/");
>> >>>---------------------------^
>> This final slash is the key: it must be there.
> Fascinating... I'll have to test that.
Well, I don't think this is the answer. My cache limit is set at 5 megs,
but there's already 11 megs accumulated since I wiped it and added the
last slash.
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William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Brown)
Subject: Re: troff
Date: 4 Nov 2000 03:29:17 GMT
There are times when underlining is the only way to go. For example, in
bibliographies. At any rate, I'm looking for the underlining feature at
this time, and italics is an unacceptable substitute.
--
Trevor
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From: Robert Grizzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Whats good about debian and slackware?
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:14:28 -0600
J.Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there.
[...]
> So I started to read some newsgroup postings, and the two names that kept
> being repeated as good so-called 'hardcore' *nix distro's were both
> slackware and debian. So before I decide to download these distro's, I would
> just really like to know which parts of these distro's makes them so good ?
> Please take note that I in no way whish to unleash yet another
> 'which-distro-is-best' flame-war here. These postings always seem rather
> futile, so there's no need for 'this-distro-is-better-than-that' type of
> reply's. I would just like to know which parts the actual users of these two
> distributions really like about their distribution, and why.
> Based on that info I then hope to be able to make a better judgment about
> whether or not I should give these two distro's a fair try.
I run Slack on five -- no, sorry; six -- different computers, ranging from a
486 DX 33 that serves as a remote logger up to a 500 MHz K6-2 I use as a
workstation and a 600 MHz Celeron laptop that I will use as a portable
workstation. Everything is infinitely configurable. pjv set up Slack so it
would go where the installer wanted it to go, not where the packager thought
it should go. I like the runlevels-with-BSDish-init-scripts; it's just
eccentric enough to be appealing without being obtrusive. The defaults
(with the possible exception of services that run at boot) make for a sane
and usable system immediately after the install. The install scripts will
cheerfully let me shoot myself in the foot if that is my pleasure. It will
install to virtually any sort of archaic or outre' ix86 machine, and will be
usable as you work the bugs out of the install.
In short, with Slack the computer works the way I want it to.
> Thanks for the input.
HTH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GEDEOND)
Subject: Hostname Lookup Failure outgoing mail
Date: 04 Nov 2000 04:03:01 GMT
Any Help would be appreciated.
I am unable to locate the problem. I can receive mail in Redhat 5.2 from an
IBM RS6000 -- but I cannot send mail out to it.
It is in my /etc/hosts file, etc.
Can anyone clue me in as to where I have not added misc2.com?
Thanks in advance - Dave.
Here is some info:
/root> date | sendmail -v -bv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] deliverable: mailer esmtp, host misc2.com., user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/root> date | sendmail -v -bm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Deferred: Name server: misc2.com.: host name lookup failure
/root> sendmail -bh
/root> sendmail -bH
/root> date | sendmail -v -bm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Deferred: Name server: misc2.com.: host name lookup failure
/root> date | sendmail -v -bm -d9 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
getauthinfo: root@localhost
host_map_lookup(misc2.com) => misc2.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Deferred: Name server: misc2.com.: host name lookup failure
/root>
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