Linux-Misc Digest #260, Volume #26 Tue, 7 Nov 00 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux? (Weber)
XDM CUSTOMIZATION (Gotzon Berrojalbiz)
Problem with kernel-2.4.0-test9 ("Nick Cheng")
Re: stat.h -? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: The purpose of sync ("Peter T. Breuer")
fetchmail/sendmail miscue-what? (John Todd)
Re: The purpose of sync (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: fetchmail/sendmail miscue-what? (Robert Kiesling)
Re: How to compile wi/ optimization? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: NFS export problem with netgroup (David Yeung)
Re: samba and etc/printcap? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KDE2 (Jerry L Kreps)
printing to from linux to win98 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Monitoring transfer rates? (carlivar)
Re: KDE rpms - distro ("lobotomy")
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (Matthias Warkus)
Sorry, your terminal can't do absolute cursor positioning. (Martin Wilber)
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From: Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux?
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:03:06 GMT
> Go to freshmeat.org and search for groupware.
> Also try www.phpgroupware.org
Thanks a lot, i will take a look at phpgroupware...
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From: Gotzon Berrojalbiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: XDM CUSTOMIZATION
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:12:10 GMT
I've discovered that it's possible to configure XDM with a more
atractive look, and I've downloaded a couple of themes from
x.themes.org.
I've also downloaded XV to make bitmaps visible and moved the theme
files into /etc/X11/xdm but when I reboot my PC I only get one
photograph and I can't login.
Does anybody know what I did wrong and what do I have to correct ?
THANKS.
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From: "Nick Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Problem with kernel-2.4.0-test9
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:21:47 +0800
Dear sirs,
I've found I not the only one who find something's wrong with new kernel.
That is , When I build kernel 2.4.0-test9 on my PC with IDE disk , It's
all OK.
But When I build it on DELL 6450, SCSI/RAID on it, It's wrong.
When I use Redhat 6.2 , or when I build 2.2.17, everything's OK. all the
modules I need to add to the kernel is eppro100.o for NIC , aix7xxx.o for
SCSI and megaraid.o for RAID.
But when I download 2.4.0-test9, and config it with the same configuation
with before, It's wrong. it tell me:
....
Megaraid : v107 (December 22.1999)
Megaraid : found 0x8086:0x1960: in 03:0b.1
Megaraid : board configured for I2O,ignoring this card .Reconfigure the
card.
Medaraid : in the BIOS for "mass storage" to use it with this driver.
VFS : Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic :VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
...
and system halted. I don't know what to do. I've selected the Ramdisk ,the
support of I2O, and not use the modules in the new kernel, I add all of the
modules into kernel. but nothing happened.
(when I try to rpm to new kernel from Redhat 7.0 by using the disc2, it's
all the same.)
Is there anybody can tell us something? thanks a lot!
if I cannot solve the problem, they'll choose the D- Windows 2k. I don't
wanna see it happened.
the most important thing is to make the Linux support 4GB RAM. is there any
other way except for waiting for the stable 2.4.0? thanks a lot!
yours sincerely,
Nick Cheng
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stat.h -?
Date: 7 Nov 2000 23:00:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I am comparitively a novice at the art of installing packages by
: compiling them. Since the graphics card that I have is an Intel 815, I
: had to try to install the agpgart module. But when I tried to make it,
: it said "unterminated character constant" in many lines
: of /usr/src/linux/asm/stat.h.
: So I opened it, found that it was nearly 20 MB, did a 'file', which
: told me that it was a tar archive, so I extracted it - and a directory
: named /gdb with many source files was extracted. All this may be fine,
: but how do I compile the original code, in a way that it
: includes /asm/stat.h?
Your post is incomprehensible. Try again.
If you have a tar archive, untar it, read the README inside, and do what it
says.
Note that /usr/src/linux/asm/stat.h is most definitely NOT a tar
archive! So I don't know what you are on about ...
Getting a directory called gdb made rather suggests that you had a tar
archive of gdb (gnu debugger). Why?
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The purpose of sync
Date: 7 Nov 2000 23:01:51 GMT
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: What does it mean to sync a filesystem? What is the purpose of
: sync?
"man sync". Quite funny.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: fetchmail/sendmail miscue-what?
Date: 7 Nov 2000 22:30:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Fetching and Sending, we lay waste our powers: Little
we see in Inbox that is ours.
I like kmail, its just that I want to be able
to do mail the Real way. Fetchmail finds my mail at
dialup ISP server, but gives "SMTP connect to localhost
failed". Sendmail delivers to other users, and appears
to queue outgoing messages. But, somewhere between the
two, theres a gap.
I have a "order hosts, bind" line in
/etc/resolv.conf.
What have I somehow missed from the docs+faqs?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: The purpose of sync
Date: 7 Nov 2000 23:30:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mike wrote:
>Hi,
> What does it mean to sync a filesystem? What is the purpose of
>sync?
[-]
Unix uses a read / write cache and sync makes sure everything is
being written to the disc(s).
If for instance you've just compiled something huge and then call
sync you may notice some sudden disc activity.
Oh yes, and see man sync of course ;)
Cheers,
Juergen
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Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail miscue-what?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:38:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd) writes:
> The world is too much with us; late and soon,
> Fetching and Sending, we lay waste our powers: Little
> we see in Inbox that is ours.
> I like kmail, its just that I want to be able
> to do mail the Real way. Fetchmail finds my mail at
> dialup ISP server, but gives "SMTP connect to localhost
> failed". Sendmail delivers to other users, and appears
> to queue outgoing messages. But, somewhere between the
> two, theres a gap.
This is getting to be a very FAQ: please make certain that
"defaultroute" is one of the PPP options, or the option of however
your system connects to the outside world.
> I have a "order hosts, bind" line in
> /etc/resolv.conf.
> What have I somehow missed from the docs+faqs?
"And what rough code, its compile come up at last, crunches
through make to be warned?"
:)
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: How to compile wi/ optimization?
Date: 7 Nov 2000 23:45:23 GMT
In article <8u81gr$l58$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nathan Weston wrote:
>I am a relative newbie to linux, and have mostly been installing things from
>rpms, but I am hearing a lot of "compile yourself, it will be faster,
>optimized for your machine, etc" I have been building a few things from
>source lately, mostly Qt and KDE, but I am wondering how I can make sure that
>everything is being optimized properly. Do the configure scripts bundled wi/
>most software automatically detect what architecture I am using and turn on
>the right optimizations, or do I have to go through and do this myself? What
>compiler or configure options are used to turn on optimizations?
[-]
Some optimisations may make things slower or even generate bad code, beware,
but pretty much all installation scripts I've seen so far use some defaults.
Out of experience:
-O0 .. -O1 :: You don't trust the compiler
-O2 :: Usual the default
-O3 :: Sometimes the default
-Os :: Bad code when compiling glibc-2.1.97, *ouch*
-march :: Optimise for a specific CPU
-mcpu :: Optimise for a specific CPU *and* generate CPU specific code
General question is now whether you're not going to spend more time with
optimising than you can win by optimising ;)
You may avoid -fstrict-aliasing as the developer of the code then *really*
had to know what the code does and you may or may not use -fno-strength-reduce
as from some profiling (Intel) it mostly resulted in larger code while often
there was an actual loss in execution speed, so I decided the gain would not
be worth the pain.
All that for gcc of course and yes, often you may "see" an increase in speed,
even though I dare say this does not mean there is one, actually.
Anyway, this is a (nowadays) slow machine (PIII) but all SCSI and very good
hardware. All software compiled by myself and I've never used anything
higher than -O2 .. cannot complain at all.
If you run memory hogs like KDE or some other desktop then adding some
memory may be the best idea to start with.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: David Yeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NFS export problem with netgroup
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 07:28:41 +0800
Joerg Morbitzer wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, David YEUNG wrote:
>
> > I have a number of Linux machines and try to control the NFS export
> > using NIS netgroup, but it seems to have problem to do so. Here
> > is my configuration with a server 'hqlx10' and client 'rcz006':
> >
> > In the server machine, I have setup the NIS and NFS server:
> >
> > hqlx10 # ypcat -k netgroup
> > linux (rcz006,,)
> > hqlx10 # cat /etc/exports
> > /usr/local @linux(ro)
> > hqlx10 # exportfs -a
> > hqlx10 # exportfs
> > /usr/local
> > @linux
> >
> > In the client machine:
> >
> > rcz006 # ypcat -k netgroup
> > linux (rcz006,,)
> > rcz006 # mount hqlx10:/usr/local /usr/local
> > mount: hqlx10:/usr/local failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
> >
> >
> > I always get the Permission denied message when I mount it. However, if I change
> > the server /etc/exports to hostname, e.g:
> >
> > hqlx10 # cat /etc/exports
> > /usr/local rcz006(ro)
> >
> > Then the mount is susccessful.
> >
> > Does anyone have idea what is wrong, or how to solve this problem.
> >
> > I am using Redhat 6.2 with the latest kernel (2.2.16) on a PII-500 machine
>
> Just an idea:
> What about your entries in /etc/nsswitch.conf concerning netgroup ?
> It should be "nis files", not only "files".
>
> Regards, Joerg.
The /etc/nsswitch.conf in both client and server machine are set to "nis" but it has
the same
result.
Regards
David Yeung
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: samba and etc/printcap?
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:52:56 GMT
I have gotten mine to print but only the first line of a file which is
what I am trying to figure out. In the printcap file set
if=/usr/local/samba/bin/smbprint: or where ever your smbprint script
is located.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You need to use smbprint from /etc/printcap, not smbclient.
>
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:06:43 GMT,
> Brad Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am currently using my roommate's printer via our local network.
When I
> >want to print I use samba by typing the following at the prompt:
> >
> >smbclient //hostname/printername -c 'print filename'
> >
> >This works fine, but I'd like to set up my /etc/printcap so that I
can
> >just use lpr. I tried entering the following line in printcap:
> >
> >lp:lp=/dev/null:of="smbclient //hostname/printername 'print '":
> >
> >but that doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >____________________________________________________________
> >Freedom of expression. Freedom of belief. Freedom of speech.
>
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE2
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:00:39 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JCA wrote:
>
> This is not strictly Linux but - I have just installed KDE2 in my
> Linux box and I am most unimpressed. It not only doesn't look quite
> as good as its 1.* counterpart, but the extra goodies added are not
> all that great: Konqueror and Koffice are on par with free tools that I
> already have, but they don't add all that much (if anything) extra.
>
> This is of course just my opinion, but I am tempted to get back
> to 1.*, or to ditch it altogether in favor of Gnome.
>
> What a big disappointment.
Differences of opinion are what makes the world go round...
I, for example, LOVE KDE2, warts and all. BECAUSE, I know it will
only get better and better and better. KMail is excellent, KNode reads
the news server perfectly (I'm using it now!). KDevelop runs under KDE2
beautifully. I imported a 6 page Word doc last night and it came across
100%. Looked great! It has some warts, but those can be eliminated.
It is not quite as stable as KDE1, but at this point in the development
cycle KDE2 is a lot more stable than KDE1 was. As far as I am concerned,
it is a win-win situation for both the user and Linux.!
Good Job KDE!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: printing to from linux to win98
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 00:03:11 GMT
I have samba setup. I have set up a printcap entry that will print to
the samba server and I am using the smbprint script that came with
redhat 6.2. Now the problem. What ever I print I only get the first
line of the file and then it steps down towards the end
of the
page
like
this.
What's happening and how do I fix it?
jimmie
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From: carlivar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitoring transfer rates?
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 00:10:05 GMT
I'm looking for software similar to ntop, iptraf, or trafmon that can
monitor network connections... however I'm looking for a specific,
simple stat that none of these programs have -- transfer rates!
I want to see what kind of transfer rates people are getting on my
server. Just a nice k/sec updated every x number of seconds would be
perfect! Yet iptraf (which I am really impressed with otherwise) has
just about every stat EXCEPT that.
Can someone suggest a program that can do this? Console only please, no
X here.
Thanks!
Carl
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE rpms - distro
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 00:23:53 GMT
All of the RPMs, with the exception of ones (like RH7) that depend on
newer, incompatible versions of the libc, should work. However, you may
break the dependency tree, different distributions use different names
for the various packages, so you will have to install it with --nodeps.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alessandro Magni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I was waiting sad that the KDE2.0 RPMs for RedHat6.1 to appear, when I
> wondered: is there really a big difference if I use RPMs by other
> distros? After all, when I download RPMs from Rufus, if there isnt a
> RH6.1 RPM, the others work, all the time!
>
> I'd be glad to hear your opinion
>
> Thanks
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.solaris,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:39:32 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:47:30 GMT...
...and Jeff Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need to choose either GNOME or KDE. I will be doing computationally
> intensive C++, with very heavy disk I/O. Results will be displayed in 3D
> preferrably with OpenGL.
>
> 1. Are GNOME and KDE C++ and/or object oriented? How will this affect
> developing with C++?
Both KDE and GNOME are object oriented. KDE's object orientation is
Qt's, i.e. the OO built into C++ with some additional keywords. You
need a kluge in form of a "meta object compiler" to preprocess any
files that define slots or signals.
GNOME's OO is implemented at runtime (GtkObject, soon to become
GObject), which allows for programming in plain C and easier binding
to scripting languages which use runtime-oriented OO. Of course, here
there's a kluge, too, i.e. you need to use special casting macros
quite a lot.
There is a C++ wrapper called Gtk--/Gnome-- which conveniently wraps
the GTK+/GNOME object model with all the macro klugery into doodads
such as overloading, namespaces etc. This wrapper is reputed to be
very neat indeed.
> 2. I know GNOME has gtkglarea; does KDE?
There is OpenGL support in Qt. I don't know whether it's as featureful
as GtkGLArea.
> 3. What else should a C++ developer know?
You should decide for yourself: Do a simple test program both in
KDE/Qt and in Gtk--/Gnome--, and choose what's easier to program for
you. The performance and feature set should be quite the same.
mawa
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From: Martin Wilber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sorry, your terminal can't do absolute cursor positioning.
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:55:21 -0600
I'm getting the following error when I try to utilize the editor "joe"
from a remote pc using a telnet program "Sorry, your terminal can't do
absolute cursor positioning." This error does not occur when I work
directly on the linux box. I get the same error with both the windows
telnet program and the telnet program - "CRT". I'm using VT100
emulation, but also tried VT220 with no luck. This used to work
previously.
Help!
Marty
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