Linux-Misc Digest #290, Volume #26               Sun, 12 Nov 00 10:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Best Distro For Newbie.... (Chris F.A. Johnson)
  cd rom drive will no longer mount - details below ("misterbooboo")
  SAMBA/Netatalk clustering/high availability (Pierre Ficheux)
  Re: Linux and Change of server (cambio del server) (SirPsychoSexy)
  Re: cd rom drive will no longer mount - details below ("The infamous \"Brian\"")
  Re: [Q] How to resize Gnome screen on small display ("The infamous \"Brian\"")
  files max - harcode in ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Trying to download symbolic links. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz is too big ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: mount/umount LS-120 floppydrive? ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Can't mount File System on Boot ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Terminal blanking... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: RH7.0 'ls' bug? (Chris F.A. Johnson)
  Capitalization problem! Is there a workaround? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Start Linux on 386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Anyone got a Netcomm Roadster II USB modem working? (Brendan Farthing)
  Re: Problems with sendmail (Cliff Sarginson)
  Contributors requested: vectorizing free charts useable for any application 
(Jean-Pierre Trolet)
  Any experience with i840-chipset motherboards? ("G. Hugh Song")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris F.A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Best Distro For Newbie....
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:50:41 GMT

On 11 Nov 2000 10:59:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Well, I'm no expert but: 
:   you need to be able to effortlessly navigate the directory structure;
:   to see, edit, move, copy, find (automatically) etc.. various files.

: mc {midnight commander the clone of the famous DOS utility}
: does all this visually (ie. you see the director contents).
: Yet it's not a M$-cartoon-style resource-hogging GUI.

I like gentoo, a clone (sort of) of the Amiga's DirOpus.

: CLI makes me feel like tying shoe-laces in the dark, wearing 
: boxing-gloves.

More like using a manual transmission in a sports car; you get the best
possible performance. 


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From: "misterbooboo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat
Subject: cd rom drive will no longer mount - details below
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:37:59 -0600

Cdrom (/mnt/cdrom --> /dev/hdc) no longer allows mount :-(

Error message is:
"Drivemount command failed.
mount wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/cdrom,
or too many mounted filesystems.
(aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
instead of some logical partition inside?)"

Error message the same when attempting cdrom mount from
command line or from X.

All worked fine and then suddenly kablooie! <g>
I rather suspect I forgot to umount as usr then remounted as root
or some such. My brain seems to be defective. I tried fsck in
various ways after reading its man page and I followed its prompts
as well (from command line). Fsck seems to think I have a
superblock problem. I confess to complete ignorance. What is a
superblock, or where can I read up on it?

System is:
PII 433 with 64MB SDRAM
6 GB hd which dual boots via LILO to 2GB Win95 FAT32 and 4GB Linux
Linux portion is divided into swap of 128MB, boot of 16MB and remainder to /
Linux = RedHat 7
Gnome with sawfish wm
XFree86 4.0.1

Urls, suggestions, or whatever appreciated.
I just did something stupid as usual, I am sure.
My proper e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you for your time,

--
Jon - I love Jesus Christ
http://www.jonsplace.org/



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From: Pierre Ficheux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: SAMBA/Netatalk clustering/high availability
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:09:46 +0100


        Hi,

        Is there anybody here with experience of SAMBA or Netatalk high
availability server ?

        Thx by advance,


-- 
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                                         http://www.alienor.fr/~pierre
More fun, more freedom, less Micro$oft

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From: SirPsychoSexy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ;,comp.os.linux.setup,;,comp.os.linux.hardware,;,it.comp.os.linux.sys
Subject: Re: Linux and Change of server (cambio del server)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:48:11 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ezio PAGLIA wrote:

> Versione per il newsgroup italiano:
> 
> Cari amministratori linux,
> 
> grazie anche al vostro aiuto, abbiamo imparato i meccanismi di
> ripartenza, ricostruendoci una rescue diskette con il kernel,
> applicando i moduli opportuni etc.
> 
> Pero' ora mi chiedo che cosa fare se in caso di crash bisogna cambiare
> macchina oppure in ogni caso vorremmo cambiare disco con quello di
> un'altra tecnologia. Supponete che abbiamo toccato fortemente ed in
> maniera a volte difficile elementi del sistema e che quindi quello che
> e' nel salvataggio completo ci interessa fortemente. Non e' cioe'
> fattibile rifare da capo gli ambienti di dns, sendmail, procmail,
> webserver, news server, squid, ftp etc.
> 
> Cosa occorre fare per trasportare il sistema su un nuovo disco ?
> 
> Ezio.

Usare un RAID2 almeno anche se su ide.....se devi mettere in piedi un 
server commerciale non puoi non pensarci.
Per il resto ho spostato un hd da una macchina rotta a una sana e rimesso 
in piedi tutto in circa un ora (con una certa comodit� e qualche errore).
I kernel "supportotutto_e_di_pi�" di default di RH sono molto comodi per 
queste cose...

  Giulio


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From: "The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: cd rom drive will no longer mount - details below
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:36:17 GMT

Hi Jon:

misterbooboo wrote in message ...
>Cdrom (/mnt/cdrom --> /dev/hdc) no longer allows mount :-(


What command are you attempting to use?

Here is what I do;

First add a line to your /etc/fstab (fstab is Linux for File System TABle);

/dev/hdc  /cdrom  iso9660  noauto,ro  0  0

Now you should be able to mount your CD rom like this;

mount /cdrom <enter>

You will not be able to open your CD drive door until you unmount the CD
rom;

umount /cdrom <enter>
^ (not a typo)

Try not to change posting names too often; It gets confusing.

Best regards,

Brian



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From: "The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: [Q] How to resize Gnome screen on small display
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:47:16 GMT

Hi Jerome:

Jerome Mrozak wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have an 800x600 pixel display, but the default size of most
>windows seems to be 1024x768.  Anyways, the file close buttons,
>etc, all are on the upper-right corner of the display where
>they are off of the screen.


Try using a virtual screen of say "1024 768" or larger.

You will have to edit your /etc/XF86Config file. Look for EVERY instance of;

Section "Screen"

and add the following directive;

Section "Screen"
    Driver      "accel"
    Device      "Matrox Mystique"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultColorDepth 16
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "800x600"
        Virtual     1024 768
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "800x600"
        Virtual     1024 768
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "800x600"
        Virtual     1024 768
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       32
        Modes       "800x600"
        Virtual     1024 768
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Your mileage may vary.

Best regards,

Brian











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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: files max - harcode in
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:46:20 GMT

Hi, Looked around a bit, seems there's no readily available info.

How do I recompile with a much higher max-files limit?
I presume I edit some file in the source tree?

I'd rather not ocassionally echo to /proc

C.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trying to download symbolic links.
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:59:51 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > I am trying to download the files on the directory:
> > ftp://ftp.mvista.com/pub/CDK/1.2/cd/PowerPC/install/rpxlite/
> >
> > All the included files are symbolic links. I need the links, not the
> > files linked. I tried with several browsers and ftp programs (on
> > Windows and Linux) and I can no get the files: one program hung,
> > another lists but not download, other downloads the file linked...
No
> > one download the link.
> >
> > Can it be done?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> I download whole directories with wget and get links and files.
> Get a directory and create a script file that will call wget
>
> It is one of the very best programs to do this.
> There might be a way with ncftp but when I use ncftp and got
> a file and it's symbolic link ncftp loads two identical files,
ignoring
> the fact that one is just a symbolic link.
>
> --
> Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
> then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
>

Just the program I used.

But this directory remains empty after the download. Perhaps did I lose
some option?

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz is too big
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:21:48 GMT

Hello, when I run "make zlilo" or "make bzImage ; lilo"
I get the following error: Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz is too big

How do I solve this?

C.


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Date: 12 Nov 2000 6:34:23 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount/umount LS-120 floppydrive?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Michael Scholz;

This whole message is html encoded.  This is the usenet, please use
plaintext. Few, if any, will bother trying to read it in this format.

 MS> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
 MS> <html>

 MS> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>How can I find out where the automount is coming
 MS> from?
 MS> <br>Are there any more detailed logs where it can be seen which process
 MS> is
 MS> <br>logging these failures?
 MS> <p>But I doubt that there is an aoutomounter around because at first I
 MS> <br>tried reading the floppy after inserting it like in a DOS machine,
 MS> but
 MS> <br>it did not work. I had to find out the notion of "mounting" a
 MS> <br>floppydisk in order to see it (took a couple of days on Usenet before
 MS> <br>I had that information in...). So if there is an automounter around
 MS> it
 MS> <br>fails in its automounting effort....</blockquote>

 MS> <p><br>Hi!
 MS> <p>BTW, speaking in terms of local devices the automounter only tries to
 MS> mount
 MS> <br>CDROM-like media including original LS-120 disks. But I really doubt
 MS> that
 MS> <br>ordinary 1.44MB floppies will be mounted this way. At least I've
 MS> never seen
 MS> <br>that.
 MS> <p>Example:
 MS> <br>In a Solaris environment you have to issue explicitely the "check for
 MS> floppy"
 MS> <br>command within the filemanager to tell the system to access a floppy.
 MS> CD-ROM,
 MS> <br>however, is mounted automatically upon insertion of the media.
 MS> <p>Hint:
 MS> <br>You may access MS-DOS floppies easily if you got mtools installed.
 MS> Then
 MS> <br>you don't even need to mount something. But behold: this might be a
 MS> security
 MS> <br>hole...
 MS> <p>Okay, here comes the hard way:
 MS> <p>Try to figure if
 MS> <br>&nbsp;&nbsp; user@host>pss | grep automountd
 MS> <br>gives you something like that (it shows you that the automounter is
 MS> active):
 MS> <br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; root&nbsp;&nbsp;
 MS> 161&nbsp;&nbsp; Oct_19 /usr/lib/autofs/automountd -D NET=fe1 -D
 MS> OS=sosp7_64
 MS> <br>where pss is aliased to (simply to sort the output):
 MS> <br>&nbsp; /usr/bin/ps -ef -o pcpu,user,pid,stime,args | /usr/bin/tail
 MS> +2 | /usr/bin/sort
 MS> <br>or if you don't have ps (which shows the actual process list) in
 MS> /usr/bin or /usr/ucb
 MS> <br>just try a
 MS> <br>&nbsp; user@host>ps
 MS> <br>together with the options from the alias above. Depending on what
 MS> version of ps you
 MS> <br>have either
 MS> <br>&nbsp; user@host>ps -ef
 MS> <br>or
 MS> <br>&nbsp; user@host>ps -aux
 MS> <br>will work.
 MS> <br>This gives you the complete list of all more or less ;o) active
 MS> processes.
 MS> <br>Just do a
 MS> <br>&nbsp; user@host>su - root
 MS> <br>to gain root-access to the system and shut down the automount demon.
 MS> <br>Use the pid (process-ID) from ps-command issued previously together
 MS> <br>with
 MS> <br>&nbsp; user@host>kill -9 &lt;pid>
 MS> <br>where &lt;pid> is the process-ID of the automountd. If you are a
 MS> rather
 MS> <br>unexperienced Linux user be very careful what are you gonna kill. You
 MS> <br>may lock up your system risking data loss. So double-check the pid
 MS> of
 MS> <br>the process that's gonna be shot.
 MS> <p>Finally, this is not a "clean" solution. Try to find out if there's
 MS> a system
 MS> <br>configuration file that prevents the automount demon from being run
 MS> <br>when the system is started.
 MS> <pre><a href="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">Michael</a></pre>
 MS> &nbsp;</html>



Cheers, Gene
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't mount File System on Boot
Date: 12 Nov 2000 11:45:09 GMT

Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Red Hat is already installed.  I am trying to get acces to the Linux 
: system and the Kernel is Panicking because it is trying to access hda7 
: for the file system and it the file system is now in hda8.  How do I go 

How on earth did you move it? You'd have had to insert an extra logical
partition _below_ hda7.

: about changing this, if I can't get into the system.

Give the parameter "root=/dev/hda8" to the booter at boottime (no quotes).

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Terminal blanking...
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Date: 12 Nov 2000 07:13:48 -0500

In comp.os.linux.misc Sir Joltalot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There's one thing that sorta ticks me off though - the terminal going
> blank after 15 minutes. What I'd really like is for the monitor to go
> into power-saving mode after 40 minutes, but if that's not possible I
> want to disable the terminal blanking altogether.

Check the man page for setterm and try:

setterm -blank 0

to turn off blanking the terminal.

(if you are using a terminal in X, see the man page for xset)

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris F.A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: RH7.0 'ls' bug?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:50:45 GMT

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:48:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: /bin/ls --version gives: ls (GNU fileutils) 4.0x

: when run by root on a filename.rpm file,
: "/bin/ls -F --color" displays it in red color, while when run by a
: non-privilaged user, same command doesn't color the filename.rpm
: (permissions: -rw-r--r--)

You can configure the colours any way you like:

        man ls
        man dircolors


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        [EMAIL PROTECTED]                   http://cfaj.freeshell.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Capitalization problem! Is there a workaround?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 13:56:20 GMT

I am bilingual. To get the specific characters working, I choose my
second language as language and keyboard options during the
installation of Mandrake 7.2. At first everything seemed OK.

I am having problems with some of the programs such as wine and
ncpmount. When I try to debug the problems, I see wrong capitalization
behind the scenes. The system converts the small letters to capital
ones using the second language codepage. For example I have
"c:/windows" in wine.conf. Wine capitalizes this as W�NDOWS. Although
(�) is correct capital of (i) in iso8859-9, it is wrong from
programming point of view.

If I opt to install it as english only, I can't get iso8859-9 working
at all later on. The specific characters just don't print on the screen.

In short: Is there a way to tell Linux to use iso8859 (english
codepage) for all internal capitalizations instead of iso8859-9?

Sorry, for this long message. Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks,

Mufit


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Start Linux on 386
Date: 12 Nov 2000 14:20:39 GMT

"Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> the other posts are qute correct...
> but if you like you could install a small linux distro such as pygmy linux
> and run it from your dos partiton.
> but forget the gui...
> win3x would not be too bad of a way to make use of your machine
> 
Free, Swiss uni supported oberon is:
 single user, multi-tasking, fast as a flash, full inet suite and 
many utils, compiler ......... OOP, easily extendable..
Needs 4M RAM,  20M HD .
Every thing else feels lame once you've mastered the 3buttom
mouse 'cording'.  It's beyond GUI: neither CLI, nor M$-cartoon-style.

http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/


Chris Glur.

PS. native-oberon is multi-platform, and a version for Linux exists.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brendan Farthing)
Subject: Anyone got a Netcomm Roadster II USB modem working?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:25:09 GMT

Anyone got a Netcomm Roadster II USB modem working with Linux?

I currently have Red Hat 6.1 (kernel version 2.2.12). I know I can
upgrade my kernel to 2.2.17 and backport the USB stuff from 2.4 but I
don't want to go to the trouble if my modem isn't going to work
anyway.

I tried looking at the compatibility list at the USB Linux site but
the target web site wouldn't work (site timed out) so i don't know if
my modem is on the list.

If anyone has this working please let me know (via email preferably).

Thanks,

Brendan...

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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:54:47 +0100

Sir Joltalot posited:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a slackware 7 based internet gateway, (using IPmasq) and I want
> to use it as a mail server. I want people who have accounts on the
> machine to be able to receive mail there, and I want mail on my internal
> network to be sent through my gateway.
> 
> So far, I can send mail through my gateway - if I tell netscape that my
> outgoing mail server is 192.168.0.1 I have no problem. However, mail
> can't be received on the gateway, or through the gateway. If I send a
> message to my account on the gateway (from a yahoo webmail address), it
> gets bounced with the following error:
> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
> 
> [No, blahblah.yi.org is *not* my machine.. hehe ;-]
> 
> I've looked at the documentation on sendmail.org about this error, but
> it doesn't seem too helpful. It basically says that you can specify
> which hosts should be allowed to relay e-mail through your server, and
> that relaying means that the server will accept mail from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED], where ppp.qqq.org is not
> the local machine. Of course, no, I don't want that. But I do want a
> user on my machine to be able to receive mail from anywhere (initially,
> I'll look at spam-blocking options later - for now I just want it to
> work).
> 
> My connection is a cable connection, which *does* have a dynamic IP. I
> use yi.org to provide a static domain for my server, which is referred
> to here as blahblah.yi.org, but that's not the real name. With yi.org,
> you do have the option of an MX record - and my yi.org domain does have
> one, and it does point to me correctly. Here is the output of an type MX
> nslookup on my domain:
> 
> Server:  proxy4.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com
> Address:  24.XX.2.XX
> 
> blahblah.yi.org  preference = 10, mail exchanger = blahblah.yi.org
> yi.org  nameserver = connubialis.crackerjack.net
> yi.org  nameserver = fumo-viridus.crackerjack.net
> blahblah.yi.org  internet address = 24.XX.244.XX
> connubialis.crackerjack.net     internet address = 139.142.244.64
> fumo-viridus.crackerjack.net    internet address = 139.142.244.63
> 
> The IP adresses, are in actuality, correct. Is everything else ok? Can
> somebody please help me with this?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> -Peter Colijn
Mmmm.. I dont know if this will help.
Sounds to me like 'sendmail" has an identity crisis, from what you have 
described it sounds like your gateway doesnt know it's own name (from 
sendmail's perspective !).
You could try and see what the output is from the following command:

echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt -d0.4  

Is your gateway host in the list there somewhere ?
It may be that sendmail cannot resolve the name properly.
You might be able to cure this by using aliases in /etc/hosts.

Hope this helps and doesnt obsfucate !

Cliff

p.s. sendmail.org have a great email address for asking complex sendmail 
questions, search around for it !


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Pierre Trolet)
Subject: Contributors requested: vectorizing free charts useable for any application
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:44:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The general purpose is to build a free database available to anyone
interested in writing software using VECTORIZED 
geographical maps. I did so myself for Western Europe and will explain
later what and how I did. Those data can then be used
for numerous applications including geographical, games, navigation,
weather forecast, GPS and so on... 

The database will consist of the ORDERED GEOGRAPHICAL POSITIONS around
all the countries and islands in the world.
 The charts so described in ASCII could be used as a background in any
application written in any language under 
Microsoft Windows or Linux.

Using ordered geographical coordinates we make one file for each
closed surface (either a country, an island, or a state).
Each file then consists of a list of latitudes and longitudes that can
be linked as a chain of vectors closing on itself.

This is an example for the Isle of Wight in Great Britain ( longitudes
west of Greenwhich are positive here) :

 50.4503
  1.1820
 50.4503
  1.1823
 50.4503
  1.1826
 50.4503
  1.1829
 50.4503
  1.1832
 50.4503
  1.1835
-
-
-
-
-
-
 50.4458
  1.1759
 50.4458
  1.1802
 50.4500
  1.1805
 50.4500
  1.1808
 50.4500
  1.1811
 50.4500
  1.1814
 50.4500
  1.1817
 50.4503
  1.1820

The full file gives 2765 positions. Of course the data is optimized in
binary according to the application and sort 
of pre-compiled to eliminate useless vectors.

It enables then the user to zoom in and out on the maps.

I APPEAL TO ANYONE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE FREELY AND FOR NON COMMERCIAL
PURPOSES.

We could make a site from which all data could be downloaded.

There are several solutions :

- You have your own idea about building those lists. All right.

- You are interested but don't know how to do :

I have written software in C++ ( for Windows , I am only a beginner in
KDE linux) that enables one to vectorize scanned MERCATOR maps (that
is with perpendicular parallels and meridians) . I keep the source
code for anyone interested . For the time being it is written in
French but I can translate it if you are really interested.
Anyway you can use the exe file easily :  you just call the bitmap in
the window , click on two judiciously chosen positions, enter the
matching coordinates and save under the chosen name. (*.VCA for
vectorized chart in ASCII).

I have also written software to adjust the charts one with the other
and to correct segments, that is to say improving the definition of
parts of already built lists.

Also, a precompiler for Delphi applications has been developped.

You will find applications ( in particular a universal tide calculator
but unfortunately only written in French ) using these kinds of charts
on my site :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-pierre.trolet

As a starting point you will find the database for Western Europe (but
part of it is rather rough) in this file :
http://jptrol.free.fr/geo_charts/ref_vca.zip   ( warranted without any
virus by Norton).

All those interested are invited to contact me here :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please enter 'geocharts' as subject.

Thank you
Bye.




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From: "G. Hugh Song" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Any experience with i840-chipset motherboards?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:21:58 +0900

What motherboards with the i840 chipset are available in the market?
Any recommenation?

Will I be better off with Rambus rams or SDRams?
It appears that Supermicro makes different versions
taking different RAMs.

I am considering a Linux server doing SMP.
Has anyone booted SMP Linux on one of those motherboards?

Most boards with i840 have an on-board SCSI based on 
Adaptec's AIC-789x.
I had a terrible time with the AIC-789x SCSI chips
on the Compaq's Alpha board because the Linux driver (v5.1.28) 
for the chip was buggy.  Is it still true?

Thanks.
-- 

Hugh

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