Linux-Misc Digest #358, Volume #26               Mon, 20 Nov 00 17:13:01 EST

Contents:
  RH7 kernel compile error (Chris Borgnaes)
  Word equations (Eric Y. Chang)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ("toxic.antidote")
  Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: who sells laptops with linux and win98? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Word equations (Grant Edwards)
  OpenOffice (JCA)
  Re: Australian Cover Up! ("Mike")
  Netscape 6 & Enlightenment ETerms ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  updating printtool's printer descriptions (TM)
  Re: Error - No such pid? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Netscape 6 (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Martin Bock)
  Re: OpenOffice ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (John Thompson)

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From: Chris Borgnaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH7 kernel compile error
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:10:53 -0500

I'm recompiling the kernel to incorporate a Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI card.  Am I 
missing a package or something?  And what's kgcc?
I'm running Gnome, not KDE; is that the problem?  It's a clean install on a new 
machine, and I've done 'make dep' and 'make clean',
seemingly without a hitch.  Below is what I'm getting when I 'make bzImage' in 
/usr/src/linux:

kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 
-DCPU=686 -DUTS_MACHINE='"i386"' -c -o init/version.o
init/version.c
make -C  kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 
-DCPU=686   -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c ksyms.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h:50,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19,
                 from ksyms.c:14:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:6: warning: `cpu_data' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:96: warning: this is the location of the 
previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:28: warning: `smp_num_cpus' 
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previous 
definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:118: warning: `smp_call_function' 
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:83: warning: this is the location of the previous 
definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:51,
                 from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/hardirq.h:23: warning: `synchronize_irq' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:138: warning: this is the location 
of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:52,
                 from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/softirq.h:75: warning: `synchronize_bh' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:142: warning: this is the location 
of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h: In function `kstat_irqs':
In file included from ksyms.c:17:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: (Each undeclared identifier is reported 
only once
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2

I'd appreciate any help anyone can provide.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Subject: Word equations
Date: 20 Nov 2000 20:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.  I have always done my equations in Latex or Lyx, but I now have a
secretary who only knows MS Word.  Is there any way that I can prepare
these equations under Linux (a Latex to MS Eqn editor convertor)?

Thanks,
Eric


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From: "toxic.antidote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:17:11 +0100
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux

works fine with suse linux 7 - regular install

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:8vbgf1$ebh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am at my last thread of sanity...
>
> I am using Red Hat 7.0 and trying to get KDE 2.0 on it.
>
> I have deinstalled  KDE 1.0 and installed KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
> I have renamed KDE 1.0 and reinstalled KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
> I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and tarred the slackware KDE 2.0 (is it
> compatible with Red HAT??) = NOPE!!
>
> I have also installed the KDE rpms from www.kde.org's site and I get a
> grey screen and a KDE logo to start up with but craps out after 10
> seconds.
>
> Somebody suggested compiling the source.. but I loaded it and said that
> I didn't have the correct C compiler on it (or something like that) AND
> I checked....sure enough I have gcc on the machine.
>
> Can anybody make any sain reason on how to proceed???
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:11:45 GMT

But how do I add them to LILO. I'm very new to Linux, but experienced
in DOS and Windows and I know about partitions. Could you please
explain how I would go about adding the correct parameters to LILO? 

Thanks,

Zed

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: who sells laptops with linux and win98?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:39:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pat Masterson wrote:

>Do any of the major vendors sell laptops preconfigured with a modern
>linux
>and win98? Thanks. -pat   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tuxtops does (www.tuxtops.com).  They may not be a "major"
vendor in eyes of Wall Street, but they're a major vendor in my
book.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  ... he dominates the
                                  at               DECADENT SUBWAY SCENE.
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Word equations
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:47:18 GMT

In article <8vc0q8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Y. Chang wrote:

>Hi.  I have always done my equations in Latex or Lyx, but I now have a
>secretary who only knows MS Word.  Is there any way that I can prepare
>these equations under Linux (a Latex to MS Eqn editor convertor)?

It would probably be easier to teach the secretary to use
LateX/Lyx. ;)

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  My face is new, my
                                  at               license is expired, and I'm
                               visi.com            under a doctor's care!!!!

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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OpenOffice
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:47:04 -0800


    Has anybody tried this? It looks much nicer than older
StarOffice versions (if it is only because it doesn't attempt
to take over your desktop) but seems to be incomplete.

    Experiences, anybody?




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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Australian Cover Up!
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:01:14 +1100


Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>
> xzgv is a picture viewer for X, with a thumbnail-based file selector.
> It uses GTK+ and Imlib. Most file formats are supported, and the
> thumbnails used are compatible with xv, zgv, and the Gimp. It can also
> be used with `xzgv file(s)', to effectively bypass the file selector.
>
> xzgv differs from other picture viewers for X in that it uses one
> window for both the file selector and viewer, it (unlike xv) allows
> both scrolling and fit-to-window methods of viewing large pictures,
> and it (unlike xv and some others) doesn't ever mangle the picture's
> aspect ratio without you telling it to. It also provides extensive
> keyboard support; if you prefer using the keyboard, this is almost
> certainly the best viewer for you. But it doesn't skimp on the mousey
> stuff, either. So anyway, it's just terribly great. :-)
>
> xzgv's homepage is here:
>
>   http://xzgv.browser.org/
>
> You can also download it from sunsite/metalab/ibiblio/whatever it is
> this week... :-)
>
>   ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/X/xzgv-0.6.tar.gz
>
>
> 0.6 isn't exactly dripping with new features, but it does fix a lot of
> bugs.
>
>
> * Changes in xzgv 0.6
>
> ** New features
>
> Added gamma support, but as with brightness/contrast this is only
> available from the keyboard for now. (This works just like it does in
> zgv, though I added it to xzgv first.) The basic idea is to ignore the
> rather unworkable image/screen gamma distinction, and just use a
> relative gamma with fast shortcuts for common cases. So pressing `1'
> gives a gamma adjustment of 1.0 (i.e. no adjustment), `2' gives 2.2
> (for e.g. viewing linear-gamma files on an average PC monitor), `3'
> gives 1/2.2 (~0.45, for e.g. viewing 2.2-gamma files on a linear-gamma
> display), and `4' reverts to any `--gamma' setting (or 1.0 if none was
> set). You can also use alt-comma and alt-dot for more precise control
> of gamma adjustment. Note that gamma is deliberately *not* reset by
> the brightness/contrast resetting keys.
>
> You can now change the sorting order from the command-line with
> `-o'/`--sort-order' (and from a config file similarly).
>
>
> ** Bugfixes
>
> Added my own PNG reader (well, libpng interface :-)), ported from zgv.
> This avoids a couple of Imlib problems - notably, greyscale PNGs are
> now read correctly.
>
> If you omitted the arg to an option in a config file, it would
> segfault. Fixed that, and applied brown paper bag as appropriate. :-)
> It would also previously get stuck in an infinite loop if given a
> bogus geometry arg, and it assumed $HOME was set - both fixed.
>
> GIF reader was previously broken for interlaced GIFs with less than 4
> lines; this broke the heap, leading to difficult-to-pin-down
> segfaults. No longer. :-)
>
> Various portability fixes - thanks to Steven Bankowitz, Juergen Salk,
> and Norio Suzuki for letting me know how 0.5 did on various non-Linux
> systems. I hope xzgv will now compile and run ok on *BSD, Solaris, and
> HP-UX, though there are probably still issues with installation in
> some cases.
>
> Before, when you used decoupled scaling and then rotated a picture, it
> messed up when resetting things for the next picture. Fixed that.
>
> Now copes with copy/move when started as `xzgv file(s)'. It's not
> perfect, in that the selector isn't updated (so after a move things
> can be confusing), but at least it's usable.
>
> When rescanning the directory (in the control-r sense :-)), the
> keyboard cursor now tries to stay at the same place in dir list, for
> consistency with zgv and because it's just nicer. Thanks to Philippe
> Marzouk for spotting this one.
>
> The file details dialog now works fully even when started with `xzgv
> file(s)' (previously the details from any thumbnail were missing).
>
>
> ** Other changes
>
> Made icon a bit less indistinct. :-)
>
>
>
> Here's the LSM entry:
>
> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Begin4
> Title:          xzgv
> Version:        0.6
> Entered-date:   2000-10-28
> Description:    xzgv is a GTK+/Imlib-based picture viewer for X, which
> supports most popular image formats. It provides a
> thumbnail-based file selector, and allows panning and
> fit-to-window methods of viewing.
>
> xzgv is more a rewrite of zgv than a port as such, but
> those familiar with zgv should see more than a passing
> resemblance. And while it's mouse-friendly, it can
> also be used entirely from the keyboard. :-)
>
> Keywords:       X graphics viewer thumbnails GTK+ Imlib
> GIF JPEG PNG PBM PGM PPM BMP TGA PCX mrf XBM XPM TIFF TIM XWD
> Author:         [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Russell Marks)
> Primary-site:   http://xzgv.browser.org/
> Alternate-site: ftp.ibiblio.org /pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/X
> 272567 xzgv-0.6.tar.gz
> Copying-policy: GPL
> End
> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> - -Rus.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape 6 & Enlightenment ETerms
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:08:09 GMT

Hello ...

Anyone out there use Enlightenment, Eterms w/ transparency and Netscape 6?

I recently noticed that whenever I load the latter program, my
transparency is all kinds of fsck'd up until I restart the X server.  Grrr
:(

Any ideas?


-- 
   Jeff Gentry  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You're one of those condescending UNIX users! ...."
"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."

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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: updating printtool's printer descriptions
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:12:06 +0100

Hi,
how do we update the list of available printers in printtool ?

thanks


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Error - No such pid?
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:25:35 GMT

In comp.os.linux Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Mike,

> Tell me what you think.  When I installed RH Linux 6.2 using the GUI I
> forgot to add an IP address and had it set to DHCP.  However, there is not
> DHCP server on my network and my NIC would start up in an inactive state and
> I would not have any Web access.  After I got Linux up and running I entered
> a static IP address and actived my NIC and all was fine.  That is until I
> went to shutdown my system and that's when I got the below error msg. about
> "No such pid".  When I rebooted I had the very same problem!

> If I understand what you are saying, I had one set of pid's when my system
> started up and I got another set of pid's when I actived my NIC.

> All is working fine now because I re-installed Linux and set the IP address
> during the installation.  However, I do want to understand just what
> happened.  Thanks for any help.

> Lamar

I don't think you had to do the reinstall. You should have been able to run
linuxconf and make the change from dynamic to static host from there. Not
that it matters much at this point. 

> "Mike Dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:12:05 GMT, Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I am running RH 6.2.  I am connected to the Internet with a cable modem.
>> >When I shutdown my system tonight using the following command:
> (shutdown -h
>> >now) every service failed with a msg. like:
>> >
>> >"[FAILED]"
>> >"...Kill: (549) - No such pid"
>>
>> When redhat boots your system, it starts various daemons, and stores the
>> pid of these processes, it I remember rightly (I don't use redhat) in
>> /var/lock/subsys.  On shutting down, it kills these processes one by
>> one.
>>
>> I can happen, for example, by doing something like
>>
>> # kill -1 <pid for sendmail>
>>
>> that sendmail restarts, and gets a new pid that sysvinit does not know
>> about.  During the shutdown procedure, it tries to kill the old pid, but
>> cannot.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> My email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] above is a valid email
>> address.  It is a mail alias.  Once spammed, the alias is deleted, and
>> the integer 'N' incremented.  Currently, mike[35,36] are valid.  If
>> email to mikeN bounces, try mikeN+1.



-- 
 Rob Findlay
  - Registered Linux User#195378
  - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - http://rfindlay.dhs.org
--
"Outside of a dog, mans best friend
is a book. Inside of a dog it's just
to dark to read."
 - Mark Twain


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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:36:26 -0500

Carter Brey wrote:

> Hi--
>
> I recently downloaded and unzipped all the necessary files for Netscape 6,
>
> installed them, made the appropriate environmental variable entries in my
>
> .bash_profile, and then tried to run the netscape binary. I keep getting
>
> a segmentation fault. Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? This
>
> happened both with the Netscape installer program when I let it handle
>
> all the downloads, and when I did everything by hand.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Carter Brey ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I downloaded netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz and did all the usual
stuff to install it. I do not like it, but it does not give me segmentation
faults. I run Red Hat Linux 6.0 with a lot of RPMs in it, some from up to Red
Hat Linux 6.2.

--
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  4:30pm up 1:44, 1 user, load average: 2.26, 2.19, 2.27




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From: Martin Bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:27:43 +0100

Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Regent Linus wrote:
>
>:> HelpHow could I run a perl script by crontab? thanks.
>
>: Wierd having this in green.
>
>Maybe you're using a recent tin (like me) in an ansi terminal (like
>me)? Nah ... nobody else but me uses tin to read news!
>
>Peter

You're absolutely wrong, man, have a look at the headers of this
posting ;-)
-- 

Martin                                  God is dead!............Nietzsche
                                        Nietzsche is dead!......God
URL:   www.martin-bock.de               Nietzsche is God!.......The Dead

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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenOffice
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:50:12 -0500

* "JCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anybody tried this? It looks much nicer than older StarOffice
> versions (if it is only because it doesn't attempt to take over your
> desktop) but seems to be incomplete.
> 
>     Experiences, anybody?

AFAIK, "OpenOffice" is just the name of "StarOffice" + Source. So it
certainly is much better thanStarOffice as it comes with the source, but
other than that, I doubt it's much different.

You probably don't even need an "office"suit - for spreadsheets, I find
gnumeric fully sufficient, abiword reads .docs if absoutely neccessary
(even though "strings stupid.doc > stupid.txt" is usually more than
enough), and all text-editing can be done more efficiently through LaTeX
or LyX. Just MHO, tho.

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

 "I heard one time you single-handedly defeated a hoard of rampaging of
somethings in the something something system." -Fry

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:17:18 -0600

Jason wrote:

> > Why do not users make backups? Those who used Windows before must realize
> > more than any the importance of backups when the system loses or messes up
> > their files. A user's accidently removing a file is just the same. I have
> > had Unix lose me (all but the first block of) a file once in 25 years, and
> > Linux has never lost me a file in over two years, but I remove one by
> > mistake every once in a while. Backups have saved me every time.
 
> No one will argue this with you Im sure.  What really bothers me though is
> the amount of NO answeres this thread received.  It seems like that just
> because most people dont know how to do it, they instantly spout off that
> it cant be done.   In fact, their are several ways to restore files on an
> EXT2 file system. The easiest of which is to just use mc, a tool that most
> newbies will find comforting anyways.  I just wish that people would do
> more research into a problem before sending it to the tool shed.  But, I
> digress.

Even mc cannot unfailingly undelete files.  If the file you have
undeleted is a text file it is relatively trivial to spot
corruption in the file.  This is not the case with binaries
(unless you have checksum data for all your files stored
separately somewhere.  But in that case, why not just backup to
removable media of some sort?).  A corrupted binary may not show
up immediately, and when it does the results tend to be both
unpredictable and unpleasant.  Unless you are dealing with text
files, I'm with the other people who say "no" or "restore from
your backups."

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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