Linux-Misc Digest #376, Volume #26               Thu, 23 Nov 00 16:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: sound of silence: help! (Martin Stenzel)
  Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Downgrading? (Martin Stenzel)
  Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Understanding /proc network and other functions (mike)
  Re: compiling xamp (Martin Stenzel)
  Re: gnome keeps crashing (Martin Stenzel)
  What to do when the console gets garbled (Des Whewell)
  Re: To all Linux Printing Gurus -- Interesting Problem! ("Steven")
  problem with tcsh and bksp key (Jean-Yves Simon)
  Re: How to interpret KDE2 error (Kevin)
  Re: Rescan SCSi-Bus (Cokey de Percin)
  Need help:Speak Freely-7.1 (Edu)
  Re: Need help:Speak Freely-7.1 (George)
  bttv (Andrew Rounds)
  test, igore (Bud Rogers)
  Re: Database in Redhat Linux (Madr)
  Re: cron output redirection - MORE (Bruce)
  Re: Marvel G400 or All-in-Wonder? (PVR on Linux) (George MacDonald)
  gcc-2.96 to gcc-2.95 (Doug Angus)
  Re: Console fonts have changed to being unreadable :) (Tim Banner)
  Best used box to purchase for linux system (James Hutchins)

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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: sound of silence: help!
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:13:07 +0100

David Wright wrote:

> I am running RH 6.2 on a laptop, and yesterday the sound simply stopped
> (it won't even beep) after working fine for months.  Sound still works
> fine under Windows, so I don't think it's a hardware failure.  Below I
> reproduce a history describing the results of every check I could think
> of.  If anyone has some concrete advice, I would be very appreciative!
>
> After looking at
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.html
> I tried
> ls -l /dev/sndstat /dev/audio
> which returns
> crw-------    1 maria    sys       14,   4 Apr 17  1999 /dev/audio
> crw-rw-rw-    1 root     sys       14,   6 Apr 17  1999 /dev/sndstat
> Both are present, although I don't know why /dev/audio should belong
> to maria, except that she is logged in at the console.  Trying
> cat /dev/sndstat
> gives a "No such device" error.  The HOWTO says that means the sound
> driver did not load.  It gives some hints on getting the kernel to
> recognize your sound card for plug and play driver loading, but running
> pnpdump finds no pnp devices.  That really doesn't suprise me, as I
> suspect that a laptop has no "sound card" as such.  Looking at the
> /etc/sysconfig/soundcard created by the installer reveals it to consist
> of the single line
> CARDTYPE=MAESTRO
> and the boot log makes it look like the relevant module was loaded
> without any problem
> Nov 22 03:10:38 localhost rc.sysinit:
> Finding module dependencies succeeded
> Nov 22 03:10:42 localhost rc.sysinit:
> Loading sound module (maestro) succeeded
> However, if I load the sound module manually via
> insmod sound trace_init=1
> I do get some worrisome warnings
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
> unresolved symbol sound_init_lowlevel_drivers_Rec0251af
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
> unresolved symbol sound_unload_lowlevel_drivers_Ra675fda1
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/sound.o:
> unresolved symbol sound_preinit_lowlevel_drivers_Rebdfb792
> That's all I could think to do, and I still don't have any sound.  What
> happened?!  And what can I do to fix it?!

Verify that the object file "sound.o" is being loaded.
What gives you the command "lsmod"?
Does the "sound" module appear?
If not you _must_ have changed something with the kernel/modules!



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:52:01 +0100

Conrad Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> does anybody know in which config-file the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is initialized?

In the file that your shell reads at startup, whatever your shell
happens to be.

> It appears when calling "env" as root running on SuSE 6.4. Thanks in

In SuSE, I think these things are centralized. 

Peter

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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading?
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:20:58 +0100

Doug Angus wrote:

> Is it possible to downgrade (lets say from RH 7 to RH 6.2)?
>
> Doug

Why do you want to?????

I guess you have a problem with  a certain package, this happens from
time to time.
You can always "rpm -Uvh" either with an older or a newer package. The
only thing
you get is a warning that you are downgrading. (you should not need the
option "--force")

To downgrade a whole distribution there is no script that automates
this.
So you have to downgrade manually every package. This can be dangerous
of course.
You might get into real trouble when downgrading a library etc.
So you have to consider the order in which you downgrade.
To repeat: you might encounter nasty effects. This leads me to the first
question:
why do you want to?

Martin.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: 23 Nov 2000 18:27:17 GMT

In <3a1d5539$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Conrad Drescher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>does anybody know in which config-file the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is initialized?
>It appears when calling "env" as root running on SuSE 6.4. Thanks in
>advance.

grep LIBRARY_PATH ~/.bash* ~/.prof* /etc/bash* /etc/prof* /etc/profile.d/*


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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Understanding /proc network and other functions
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:29:32 GMT


                            what I would like to know is, more
specifically,about all the possible switches that are available to use,
and their significance in the /proc filesystem, so as to be able to modify
the
various functions in the Linux operating system. Examples:  the various
parameters related to networking, and hardware.


Mike




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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: compiling xamp
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:30:06 +0100

Ralph Blach wrote:

> good morning,
>
> I just loaded qt.1.45 up on my redhat 6.2 system and tried to build
> xamp.
>
> I got this result from the link step.
>
> QtAMP.o(.text+0x2d2b): undefined reference to `QtAMP virtual table'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> How do I get rid of these and get xamp to link?
>

You not only need the qt libraries. You need the header files as well.
Those you will find in the qt-dev package which you need to install.
Plus make sure that your version of xamp goes well with version 1.45 of qt.

It might be that you need version 2.xx of qt-dev.
Information about that you should find in the README/INSTALL of xamp
sources.

Much luck.


>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ralph "Chip" Blach
> KF4WBK
> Chapel Hill, North Carolina

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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: gnome keeps crashing
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:33:27 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi
>
> recently, gnome keeps crashing and X windows shuts down as well. the
> following line gets logged in syslog:
>
> Nov 22 23:38:07 localhost gnome-name-server[15630]: input condition is:
> 0x10, exiting
>

If you can track the problem down to the gnome name server easiest thing
is to
remove this package and see if X/GNOME still crashes.
Report this problem to the maintainer of the package. I assume this is
Patrick
Volkerding in your case.
I do not assume that you have to run a name server, do you?

Martin.


>
> What would cause input condition 0x10 and how can i fix this problem?
> btw, i'm using gnome+enlightenment from slackware 7.1
>
> thanks
> ali

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From: Des Whewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What to do when the console gets garbled
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:39:27 +0000

Sometimes I will accidently 'more' a binary file to the screen, which
puts the console into gobbledy-gook mode - I assume a weird font has
been selected.

How do I reverse the process? Re-booting the box seems a little bit
over the top :-)


-- 
Cheers, Des

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From: "Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To all Linux Printing Gurus -- Interesting Problem!
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:26:53 GMT

Problem solved!

It was that the second file did not have an EOL character placed at the end.
It seems to have been a programming oversite by the people that wrote the
package.  To correct it I just wrote a script that takes the incoming pipe
and makes it into a file, then calls a perl script to add a EOL to the file,
and finally calls lpr to send it to the print and then lpr removes the file.

If anyone has a better idea about how to condense this into one script
instead of 2, that would be great, but it's functioning now (from all I can
tell).

Thanks again all!

Steven


"Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:g0YS5.18496$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok, here is the problem.
>
> I have 2 files in the /etc directory on a Linux RedHat 6.2 server.  One is
> named "test.prn", the other "test2.prn".  They both are the same size,
both
> the exact same information.  The difference in the 2 are that one
> (test2.prn) was created via a Unix/Linux based accounting package and the
> other (test.prn) was made in vi and the opened in a programming editor
> through Samba and the contents of the first one (test2.prn) pasted in.  So
> they both show as 801 bytes, they both have the same permissions, owner,
and
> group, and they are both in the same directory.  So now...  why when I
print
> the first one via lpr (lpr -Ppos1prn test.prn), it prints perfectly with
all
> the line feeds and everything, but when I print the second one
> (lpr -Ppos1prn test2.prn) does it totally ignore the line feeds and prints
> everything right on top of each other on one line!?  Here is the layout...
>
> test.prn - created in vi and contents pasted in, root owner, root
> group, -rw-rw-rw- permissions.
> test2.prn - created via the accounting package, originally a user owner
and
> group but has been changed to a root owner and group, -rw-rw-rw-
> permissions.
>
> Both are being sent to a Epson TM-U200D receipt print that is hanging off
a
> Windows 95/98 machine and I'm going through the servers lpd to the Samba
> server and out to the share on the computer.
>
> Things already checked:
>
> 1. Checked and rechecked printcap file.
> 2. Checked lpr command line swtiches.
> 3. Checked with the printer on 2 different computers, one Win95, one Win98
> 4. Checked file format in a programming editor via straight text and in
hex
>
> Anyone have any ideas on what I can check?
>
> Steven Yarbrough
> Yarbrough's Music, Inc.
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Yves Simon)
Subject: problem with tcsh and bksp key
Date: 23 Nov 2000 18:47:05 GMT

Hi,

I compiled for my linux box tcsh because it is my fav shell.
Everything seems to work good except that with some softwares
I have problem with my bksp key. If I make an error on the
shell line command, I can erase characters using this key.
But if I start, say, ftp and make a mistake on the ftp command
line, my bksp doesn't work at all and garbage is generated on
the screen

% ftp toto
...

ftp> cd /dir/^?^?^?
            ^
           Starting this position, I typed the bksp key
and ^? is echoed on the screen.

I get the same phenomenom in vim also.

I have stty erase ^H in my .tcshrc file.

Anyone can help me or point me to some documentation ?

Thanks and regards.
Jean-Yves Simon.

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From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to interpret KDE2 error
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:04:31 GMT

Looks like a qt error.  run:

ldd kdeinit

and make sure it's linking to a qt 2 lib instead of an older one.  also,
you may want to put the startkde command in your .xinitrc.  That way when
you run startx it starts everything up for you.

Kevin

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:14:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester) wrote:

>I downloaded the KDE2 RPMs, and had a bit of trouble installing them on
>RH7. So I removed all of my previous KDE RPMs, and installed from
>scratch. I also installed the new qt libs. Now, when I issue "startkde", I
>get:
>
>ksplash: error while loading shared 
>libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
>symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
>
>kdeinit: error while loading shared
>libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined
>symbol: contains__C5QRectRC6QPointb
>
>knotify: error while loading shared
>libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
>symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
>
>ktip: error while loading shared
>libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined
>symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent
>
>I don't have a clue how to begin remedying this error.


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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Rescan SCSi-Bus
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:06:09 GMT

Neil Cherry wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:32:28 +0100, Tobias Dresbach wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >i have an extern scsi cd-burner and dat connected to my debian box.
> >my question is how to make a scsibus-rescan so i can switch on the burner an
> >dat after booting the system?
> >under suse linux i did a "modprobe am53c974" but under debian it doesn�t
> >work.
> >thanks in advance
> >tobi
> 
> Look for scsi_info or scsiinfo, also freshmeat.net had scsiadd. One of
> those should help.
> 

You can dynamically add(delete) a SCSI device to the bus without 
causing a complete rescan with the following commands:

|-----------------------------------------------------------------|

#!/bin/sh
#
#
# Add a SCSI device dynamically
#
# This is for the CDRoms 0 & 1
#
#  a == hostadapter id (first one being 0)
#  b == SCSI channel on hostadapter (first one being 0)
#  c == ID
#  d == LUN (first one being 0)
# 
# adds a device (#6, adapter 0, channel 0, LUN 0
#
#echo "scsi add-single-device 0 0 3 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi
echo "scsi add-single-device 0 0 6 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi  

|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

#!/bin/sh
#
# Delete a SCSI device dynamically
#
# This is for CDRoms 0 and 1
#
#  a == hostadapter id (first one being 0)
#  b == SCSI channel on hostadapter (first one being 0)
#  c == ID
#  d == LUN (first one being 0)
#

#echo "scsi remove-single-device 0 0 3 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi
echo "scsi remove-single-device 0 0 6 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi       

|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Note that this assumes that the device is attached, but not turned on.
I would not suggest trying to hot attach a device unless it (and the 
controller) are designed for it. 

Best

Cokey

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From: Edu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: es.comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,es.comp.misc
Subject: Need help:Speak Freely-7.1
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:01:20 +0100

Anybody could tell me which are the flags or the configuration that I
need to compile the source of speak_freely-7.1 ?? My OS is a Linux
RedHat 6.2 ona PC Pentium.

I tried to run xspeakfree between two equal computers, but when I open
the microphone, I can only hear annoying noise and no voice.

Please, help.


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From: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help:Speak Freely-7.1
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:05:12 GMT

I've also run into that same problem even though speakfreely worked well
with olser kernels. Get gphone, it uses the gsm protocol and will talk
to speakfreely.


> 
> Anybody could tell me which are the flags or the configuration that I
> need to compile the source of speak_freely-7.1 ?? My OS is a Linux
> RedHat 6.2 ona PC Pentium.
> 
> I tried to run xspeakfree between two equal computers, but when I open
> the microphone, I can only hear annoying noise and no voice.
> 
> Please, help.

-- 
George
N4NIV

People who think they know it all really
annoy those of us who do. (author unknown)

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From: Andrew Rounds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bttv
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:05:51 +0000

Has anyone else had problems with their BT848 (Miro) TV card under Mandrake 
7.2? It worked perfectly on 7.1, but since my upgrade I get sound from the 
card, but no video. I am at a complete loss how to work out what the 
problem is and was hoping that someone has already solved it and can point 
me in the right direction. I know the card is fine, it works on my Win98 
partition..

relevant parts of modules.conf :
alias char-major-81 bttv   
pre-install bttv        modprobe -k tuner 
options tuner type=5 


Thanks

Andy

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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test, igore
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:07:06 -0600

Test, ignore.

-- 
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
    All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.



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From: Madr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.apps,comp.lang.java.databases,comp.databases.informix,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.databases.sybase,linux.redhat.misc,linux.postgres,comp.databases.pick,comp.databases.ibm-db2,comp.databases.oracle.misc
Subject: Re: Database in Redhat Linux
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:14:38 +0100

Freelancer wrote:

> I need decide which database going to run for Redhat Linux.
> I know MySQL is the most popular one in Linux world. I need
> you help me to fill out the blank and hole (?) in table below.
>
>                         Databases for Linux (Redhat)
> Y -- yes; N -- No; NA -- not apply; ? -- don't know/not sure
>

Database  Trigger/Store Procedure  Transaction  Foreign Key Constrain
JDBC/RowSet           C/C++ Library  PerlDBI
Postgres         Y                   Y
Y                               N
?/?                               Y/N                     Y?
Informix        Y                   Y
Y                               Y
?                                 ?                            ?


--
      Martin Dressler

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.musicabona.com/




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From: Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cron output redirection - MORE
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:15:56 GMT

Now I've dumped the entire crontab so that there is nothing in it and
it's still running the old cron job that pings. What in the world is
going on? I've removed everything from the crontab, so shouldn't it stop
running the job?

Bruce


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Marvel G400 or All-in-Wonder? (PVR on Linux)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:33:24 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I want to get a video card that I can also use as a VCR. In my research on the
> internet, I have discovered that the Marvel G400 and the All-in-Wonder are
> both supported under Linux. The All-in-Wonder appears to be better supported,
> but I really like the Marvel's ability to play video on the TV-out while I
> continue to use the monitor for computer work.
> 
> What recommendations does anyone have for these two cards and their use under
> Linux?

I use a ATI All-in-wonder card plus a ReplayTV for doing personal 
video recording(PVR). I find this combo has a significant number of 
advantages over a computer only PVR based solution. The biggest
reason being load on the system during recording eats up your system
resources. i.e. you can't do much else with your computer while
recording. 

I recently got a RedRat remote control which I use to control the 
ReplayTV while watching it via the composite input. The RedRat
is a learning remote control that connects via the serial port.
I wrote a small "floating remote" GUI which "translates" mouse
clicks to IR! You can also use command line/email/web based
interfaces!!!

For more info, see

        http://www.slip.net/~gmd/index.html

I also modifed GATOS so that it supports a floating remote,
here is a snapshot of all this working together:

        http://www.slip.net/~gmd/atitvRemote/ReplayGuide.jpg

I'm in the process of rewriting the remotes program, moving
to Gtk ... I also want to make the PVR/TV integration a bit
tighter...



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Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
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From: Doug Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc-2.96 to gcc-2.95
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:31:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm having difficulty with gcc-2.96.  Some of which I've been able to
sort out but other out of my league.  For instance, I keep getting these
warning messages when compiling fortran programs:

/usr/bin/ld: Warning: size of symbol `ctime_' changed from 12 to 14 in
Lctime.o
/usr/bin/ld: Warning: type of symbol `ctime_' changed from 1 to 2 in
Lctime.o
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libg2c.a(open.o): In function
`f_open':
open.o(.text+0x4e6): the use of `tempnam' is dangerous, better use
`mkstemp'

The most basic compilation command I use is (g77 -o executable file.f
....).  The problem is that all these algorithms ran perfectly fine with
gcc-2.95 but now some run normally and others don't (i.e. seem to
develop segmentation problems).

I'm not skilled enough to mess with the compiler code.  So what issues
am I facing if I try to reinstall the older gcc-2.95 rpm?

Doug



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From: Tim Banner <tim.banner*NOSPAM*@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Console fonts have changed to being unreadable :)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:02:17 +0000

John Hasler wrote:

> Tim Banner wrote:
> > I did a "cat" on a database file, and for some reason my console fonts
> > have changed to a symbol set.
> 
> Type reset and hit enter.

It's easy when you know how ;)

Thanks I'll give it a try.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Hutchins)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Best used box to purchase for linux system
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:53:30 -0500

Hi,

I'd appreciate opinions on the pros and cons of purchasing (on Ebay) a
used Intel, Sun, or Silicon Graphics (or ?) box to run Linux. I want to
learn/program OpenGL, but know most graphics cards now for all machines
support it. What other factors matter among the different machines?

Thanks
--J

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