Linux-Misc Digest #639, Volume #26 Tue, 26 Dec 00 09:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: CPU Incorrect in /proc/cpuinfo. Please help! I'm desperate! (LuisMiguel
Figueiredo)
Re: Question about performance (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: KDE2.0.1 and pts/0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat vs Debian (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: good distro for 486? (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: Need MINIMAL Linux for a laptop dinosaur... (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops? (Brad Bailey)
opening an Xterm in a script? (Peter Bismuti)
alternative module path (Timo Benk)
CD recorder detection problem... please help (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
Re: alternative module path (Michael Heiming)
Re: opening an Xterm in a script? (Michael Heiming)
...wrong major or minor number ("Steffen Schulz (pepe)")
Re: logging out of KDE w/ Netscape causes linux to hang (Michael Heiming)
Re: alternative module path (Timo Benk)
moving users from one system to another... (Miguel De Buf)
? Move installed HD to other box ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Only with Linux... (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: for(;;) fork(); (Jean-David Beyer)
question_on_Linux_and_XWindows (Peteris Daugulis)
Re: for(;;) fork(); (Timo Benk)
Re: logging out of KDE w/ Netscape causes linux to hang (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: CPU Incorrect in /proc/cpuinfo. Please help! I'm desperate!
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:30:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (MrTaboo) wrote in
<kGP16.16990$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I know I have a PII 400 w/ 512k cache so what can I do to make it
>recognize the CPU correctly and utilize all its features?
>I'm frustrated! Can ya tell? At this point Windoze is really a speed
>demon.
>
>Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
>
First update your kernel to the latest stable version 2.2.18, you can find
it in http://www.kernel.org.
Then configure your kernel and modules. One of the first options on the
kernel is selecting the CPU. I advise you to click on the help button on
every option you choose.
I don't like KDE nor GNOME i think it's a cheap copy of Windows. I prefer
WindowMaker. Why? Simpler, faster and not and original.
Good luck,
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Question about performance
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:36:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (al) wrote in
<SIO06.58683$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I have a question about general Linux performance.
Bonnie it's a program to benchmark filesystems. Hope this help,
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:39:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hal B writes:
>> [ . . ]
>
>2.2r2 comes with 2.2.17, I believe. You can. of course, install
>whatever kernel you want.
Always with the latest stable version. Now with 2.2.18
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: KDE2.0.1 and pts/0
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:32:59 GMT
In article <929kvi$2h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Weird things are happening after I installed KDE2.0.1 on my RH7.0 box:
>
> Every time I login to KDE, I also show up in "w" as being logged in on
> ps/0 (I'm not quite sure what PTS stands for, but I thought pts was
for
> REMOTE logins)
>
I forgot to mention that this "extra me" logged in on pts/0 runs "cat".
Weird, huh? At first I thought my box was hacked into...
Wroot
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:46:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Systwo User) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> [ . . ]
>wroot, I am running Debian 2.2 on one machine and RH 7.0 on another.
[...]
>Debian on the other hand take longer to install ( I have not figured out
>how to use Lizard with Debian) and requires more knowledge about the
>machine, but once it is up and working right it stays working. I have
>used early versions of Slack and Caldera and recent versions of Red Hat,
>Mandrake and Debian and Debian seems to be the most stable. In-fact
>that is what I user for my server.
>
>jj
>
Debian it's really easy to install! Just install the base system to allow
booting in linux.
Then run dselect.
Select the packages you want and install everything from the net.
Everytime you want to update your system just select update and install on
dselect.
Anything better than this?
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good distro for 486?
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:48:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
<91o9d5$6np0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I've got an old 486dx4 box, 40m memory, ISA video card. It
> actually
>runs SuSE 6.3 pretty nicely, even enlightenment, albeit a little slow.
Debian 1.3
Small & fast.
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need MINIMAL Linux for a laptop dinosaur...
Date: 26 Dec 2000 10:50:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Michael Perry writes:
>> [ . . ]
>
>I don't think it will install in 4MB (run, yes).
Debian now needs 12MB minimum to install :(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Bailey)
Subject: Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:07:29 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:13:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
->i'm currently thinkning of getting a laptop which i intend to install
->linux on (make is either going to be a sony viao or a panasonic laptop
->since i've heard some good reviews, albiet not 'linux' based reviews)
->and am wondering if anyone out there has any strong
->recommendations/dont-touch-with-12foot-pole.
My personal experience is with RH6.2 on a Dell Inspiron 7500, and Suse
7.0 Pro on a Gateway 5300. The Dell was far and away a better machine,
but alas, I had to give it back when I quit that job. I was able to use
all of the components without much fuss - had to download a driver for
the Lucent winmodem, but even it worked okay. Used a 3-Com PCMCIA NIC,
which came up as soon as I plugged the card in. God, I miss that Dell.
I haven't gotten the modem or the sound card working on the Gateway.
No idea what kind of modem it is, but I don't need it anyway. As for
the sound card - a "ESS Technologies Unknown device (rev 0)" - even
the OSS drivers can't convince it to come alive. With the wildly
varying parts used in Gateways, though, this could be meaningless to
another 5300 owner. RedHat is my preferred workstation/notebook distro,
but the installer would simply freeze at the first screen on the Gateway.
Some old co-workers swore by Slackware on their Toshibas. Another
sysadmin I worked with used RH6.x on his various Compaq's without
much fuss.
I highly recommend taking a look at the Linux on Laptops homepage:
<URL:http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/>
Regards
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"You know, it's easy to be happy if your one concern in life is figuring
out how much saliva to dribble." --Woody Allen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: opening an Xterm in a script?
Date: 26 Dec 2000 11:09:18 GMT
I want to write a generic script that will open a new xterm and automatically
change directory to wherever the script was called from.
Can this be done?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: alternative module path
Date: 26 Dec 2000 11:20:03 GMT
Hi,
I need to use /usr/lib/modules as the base path for my modules while /lib
is a symlink to /usr/lib.
If I try to load a module I got the message:
Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/net pcnet32.o
and nothing more.
But if i put the modules under /lib/modules and /lib is a real directory
everything works fine.
So I think i need to change the module path somewhere to point to
/usr/lib/modules instead of /lib/modules 'cause it seems that the kernel
can't load the modules if they are behind a symlink, but i just don't know
where i can set the module path.
Any clue?
-timo
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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD recorder detection problem... please help
Date: 26 Dec 2000 11:22:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (-ljl-) wrote in <91804g$ibh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jacek Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>
>> [ . . ]
>
>I think Creative's 8432 designation means 8x4x32, and they
>have sold, at least, two different manufacturers drive using
>it (Plextor & Samsung). This means that just because the box
>says 8432 this doesn't mean their is an 8432E inside.
[...]
Hello,
i have a new Traxdata 8x4x32 (IDE) burner but i don't know wich options to
slect in the kernel so it can appear as SCSI device. Can you give me some
tips?
cdrecord -scanbus doesn't detect me CDRW.
It's my first CD recorder...
Tanx in advance,
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:50:09 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: alternative module path
Hallo,
for looking if/which modules are loaded type:
lsmod
I wouldn't suggest moving modules around, IMHO experts only, if you insist on
doing, read:
man depmod
(-b basedirectory)
it's explained there...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Timo Benk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to use /usr/lib/modules as the base path for my modules while /lib
> is a symlink to /usr/lib.
>
> If I try to load a module I got the message:
> Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/net pcnet32.o
> and nothing more.
>
> But if i put the modules under /lib/modules and /lib is a real directory
> everything works fine.
>
> So I think i need to change the module path somewhere to point to
> /usr/lib/modules instead of /lib/modules 'cause it seems that the kernel
> can't load the modules if they are behind a symlink, but i just don't know
> where i can set the module path.
>
> Any clue?
>
> -timo
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:55:24 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: opening an Xterm in a script?
Hello,
#!/bin/sh
cd $PWD && xterm &
That's it...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Peter Bismuti wrote:
> I want to write a generic script that will open a new xterm and automatically
> change directory to wherever the script was called from.
>
> Can this be done?
>
> Thanks
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From: "Steffen Schulz (pepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ...wrong major or minor number
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:18:32 +0100
Hi,
I can not remenber I have done anything concerning /dev/hda (except
enabling dma by default in kernel). But since a few days I get error
$subject when I try to mount my windows partitions.
"/" and "/boot" arre not making any trouble...
/dev/hda is my only harddisk
using RedHat 6.2
The numbers are as same as while installation
pepe
(who is soory about his english ;)
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:11:50 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logging out of KDE w/ Netscape causes linux to hang
Anna Luigi wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I'm running Suse6.4 on one machine, and RH6.2 on another.
> For both installations I find that, with KDE running and
> netscape running, going to shutdown the system causes a
> complete hang of the system. I'm wondering:
>
Nope, just this crashicator-NS thing is hanging X, press CTRL-ALT-F1 to
switch to another console & login
ps aux | grep netscape
kill -9 <Netscapes PID>
Dont forget to
rm ~/.netscape/lock
or do it from another machine via ssh...
Yeah, NS is a piece of crap/bloatware but you have to live with it,
install a new version of NS, forget about 6, didn't worked
for me, maybe you have to have a 1 Ghz CPU to use it....:-(
Good luck
Michael Heiming
>
> 1) What causes this and how can it be fixed?, and
>
> 2) Is there a key combination I can use in the event this
> happens?
>
> It's very annoying and means that whenever I shutdown the system
> from KDE I first have to note whether or not I've manually closed
> down Netscape (the version of which came with the linux distributions
> referred to). Well, the same thing _doesn't_ happen with GNOME.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: Re: alternative module path
Date: 26 Dec 2000 12:41:53 GMT
Hi,
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:50:09 +0100, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>for looking if/which modules are loaded type:
>
>lsmod
the problem is that the module is loaded but does not work. (see below)
>man depmod
>
>(-b basedirectory)
I already tried that and it does not work.
I think it's a problem with the kernel itself (tried it with 2.2.11 and
2.2.17).
I have got two identical systems. The only difference between them is that
on one system /lib is a symlink to /usr/lib.
BTW i need that symlink on a rescue cd to minimize the amount of ram for the
initial ramdisk.
system1(/lib->/usr/lib):
system1:~# insmod pcnet32
Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/net pcnet32.o
system1:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
pcnet32 10924 0 (unused)
system1:~#
system2:
system2:~# insmod pcnet32
Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/net pcnet32.o
pcnet32.c: PCI bios is present, checking for devices...
PCI Master Bit has not been set. Setting...
Found PCnet/PCI at 0x1000, irq 9.
eth0: PCnet/PCI II 79C970A at 0x1000, 00 50 56 92 00 01 assigned IRQ 9.
pcnet32.c:v1.25kf 26.9.1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
system2:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
pcnet32 10924 0 (unused)
system2:~#
-timo
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From: Miguel De Buf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: moving users from one system to another...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:56:26 +0100
Hi all,
I am not shure if I am on the correct newsgroup, but here is my question
:
I have one server (RH5.2), and want to move all users on that system to
another server (RH6.2), so they keep their passwd's, and can login at
the new server.
Thx,
Miguel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ? Move installed HD to other box
Date: 26 Dec 2000 13:00:39 GMT
Hi,
I've got no CD reader, so I borrowed a box with one, and installed
RedHat 6.2 for my friend, and also a copy to a HD of mine.
Initially I did installs to both /dev/hdaX and /dev/hdbY with one
using floopy boot, and the other using mbr LILO.
When I moved the /dev/hdbY plus its 'matching' boot floppy to
test on a 386 machine (from 486) it had errors ??
So I reinstalled this same HD as /dev/hdaX with mbr LILO booting.
Now when I move this /dev/hdaX to my (hopefully final destination)
486 machine, it again gives the same LI.O.O. garbage !!
When I boot my 486-box via floppy Slakware, linux is at
/dev/hdb2 ? or 3 and try to 'see' the 'new' /dev/hda;
fdisk sees it OK, and /dev/hda1 = FAT16 is mounted OK
(by the previous setup, which had a FAT16 /dev/hda1),
but I can't mount any of the RH6.2 partitions.
---
bash# mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt/tmp
EXT2-fs: 03:06: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features.
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6,
or too many mounted file systems
---
I can mount the one Slakware partition on /dev/hda.
BTW RH6.2 was able to mount a Slakware partition (which I
viewed).
It seems that RH62 can mount Slakware, but not vise-versa ?
Does it matter that the CD and floppies are configured differently,
on the 'run' machine than on the 'install' machine, as far as failling
to boot (via LILO mbr) ?
It seems to crash BEFORE it sees mtab, fstab ?
How can I install on the box with the CD-reader and move the HD
to my box, for use ?
Advice/instructions greatly appreciated, also emailed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , in case I miss this Nwsgroup.
Chris Glur.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:10:29 -0500
Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> On 26 Dec 2000 01:22:35 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > find / -name emacs -print
>
> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
>
Us old-timers (from the early 1970s using the UNIX O.S.) insist on it
because, without it, you got no output (or an error message, I forget
which). As time passed, the necessity of -print was reduced (though not
eliminated), but old habits die hard. If you read the first edition of
the manual page, you would see why people, once they found a way to get
the program to work at all, never changed how they did it. Newer manual
pages are much better.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:21:06 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> To all those bragging about their uptime in their sigs:
>
> Try compiling and running the following program as non-privileged users:
>
> gcc frk.c
> ./a.out
>
> ----frk.c--------
>
> #include <unistd.h>
> int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>
> -----------------
>
> At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
> handle this.
>
You can understand why I do not accept your challenge. Since it is a
legal program, it is difficult what you expect the "kernel
configuration/compilation" to do. If I were diddling the kernel, I might
have the kernel terminate the processes and delete the lines containing
wroot from the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files
I have run on a version of the UNIX Operating System that could handle
it, because it always kept one or two process table slots free for the
superuser who could get in and kill something like that. I have no idea
if Linux permits that, and do not care to try it.
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From: Peteris Daugulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question_on_Linux_and_XWindows
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:24:03 +0200
Can anyone help me with this:
There is a piece of software which originally runs under Solaris and
XWindows
(I have both its C source code and binaries, presumably XWindows is
critical). Can it be made to run under Linux ?
please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thank you in advance
sincerely
Peter Daugulis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: 26 Dec 2000 13:36:04 GMT
Hi,
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:21:06 -0500, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> To all those bragging about their uptime in their sigs:
>>
>> Try compiling and running the following program as non-privileged users:
>>
>> gcc frk.c
>> ./a.out
>>
>> ----frk.c--------
>>
>> #include <unistd.h>
>> int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>> At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
>> handle this.
>>
>You can understand why I do not accept your challenge. Since it is a
>legal program, it is difficult what you expect the "kernel
>configuration/compilation" to do. If I were diddling the kernel, I might
>have the kernel terminate the processes and delete the lines containing
>wroot from the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files
>
>I have run on a version of the UNIX Operating System that could handle
>it, because it always kept one or two process table slots free for the
>superuser who could get in and kill something like that. I have no idea
>if Linux permits that, and do not care to try it.
Only an idea:
as i understand that little program will fork itself again and again and
breaking than the system.
I think the right ulimits will stop that.
It's a similar problem like the "yes 'yes'" one.
-timo
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logging out of KDE w/ Netscape causes linux to hang
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:37:04 -0500
Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> Anna Luigi wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > I'm running Suse6.4 on one machine, and RH6.2 on another.
> > For both installations I find that, with KDE running and
> > netscape running, going to shutdown the system causes a
> > complete hang of the system. I'm wondering:
> >
>
> Nope, just this crashicator-NS thing is hanging X, press CTRL-ALT-F1 to
> switch to another console & login
>
> ps aux | grep netscape
> kill -9 <Netscapes PID>
>
> Dont forget to
>
> rm ~/.netscape/lock
>
> or do it from another machine via ssh...
Since I run GNOME/Enlightenment instead of KDE my situation is not
identical to yours. But the same problems exist even when you are not
shutting down the system; that may be a red herring. When Netscape
crashes, the symptoms can be:
1.) The program just exits, and has already removed ~/.netscape.lock.
2.) The program just freezes and you cannot get it off by clicking the
little x at the top right of the window(s). If you right-click the
little x, the windows vanish, but the program is gobbling up an awful
lot of CPU time. You must kill it with a -9, and remove the lock file.
3.) Same as 2, but the mouse is not tracked, so you can do none of that,
nor can you get into an existing xterm to kill anything. In this case,
pressing Control-Alt-F[1-6], logging in as whoever started Netscape, and
killing it with a -9 will be the way to go, if you can do it. Sometimes
you cannot.
4.) Same as 3, but the Control-Alt-F[1-6] sequence gets no response. In
this case, Control-Alt-Backspace will sometimes get you out of X and you
can login again and fix things up.
5.) Same as 4, but Control-Alt-Backspace does not work either. If you
have the luxury of being on a network, you can ssh into your machine and
fix things sometimes, but
6.) When none of these work, you can assume you machine has crashed and
you must hit the panic button. This has happened to me only about twice
since May 1998.
>
> Yeah, NS is a piece of crap/bloatware but you have to live with it,
> install a new version of NS, forget about 6, didn't worked
> for me, maybe you have to have a 1 Ghz CPU to use it....:-(
Well, I sort-of have a 1.1GHz CPU (2 550MHz CPUs running SMP), and I
think Netscape 6.0 still stinks. It is fast enough, but that is about
all. Crashes much more than Netscape 4.7 series up to and including
4.76, features missing, confusing human interface reminding me of AOL,
etc. (The version of 6.0 I got direct from Netscape as an RPM, perhaps a
month ago, I no longer remember.)
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/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 8:20am up 21 days, 17:06, 2 users, load average: 2.06, 2.08, 2.08
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