Linux-Misc Digest #655, Volume #26 Fri, 29 Dec 00 00:13:03 EST
Contents:
RTF Printing ("clear")
Re: Linux into a blank PC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Only with Linux... (Bryan Hoyt)
Re: Building new system (Dances With Crows)
Re: Only with Linux... (Steve Lamb)
Re: RTF Printing (Dances With Crows)
Re: PPP Problem - need help urgently please! ("Dan White")
Re: FTP Question ("Dan White")
Re: Thrashing HD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't connect error (Bryan Hoyt)
Re: Netscape frustration trying to view .txt docs ("Me")
Re: Asus PCProbe ("Me")
Re: HD size? (Kimji)
modprobe complaining about serial devices at boot (Jeff Pierce)
Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: .exe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: scriptable http... (David Efflandt)
Re: lean kernels run faster, right? (Phlip)
Re: scriptable http... (David Efflandt)
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From: "clear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RTF Printing
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:14:53 -0000
Anyone know how I can print RTF documents (without the use of a WP
pacckage), ideally as a command lineoption?
TIA, Steve Haddon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux into a blank PC
Date: 28 Dec 2000 16:17:04 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock) writes:
> Hello Folks,
>
> I have a blank PC (486 DX2-66) set aside for Linux. No Windows. HDD
> partitioned into 2 partitions as requested in Red Hat booklet and
> armed with Red Hat CD where do I go next. Thinks !! I might make a
> boot floppy with RAWHIDE on the CD ??? Correct ??? Then what??? Don't
> have any info on the monitor, never needed it before so why now?
> PARTINFO and FIPS provide partition info. No I cannot afford a BLOODY
> Pentium and I don't need another PC in the house, anymore and I'll go
> bananas. So don't make any such stupid suggestions. I only want
> initially a better LAN server system and I think Linux may be the
> answer.
>
> --Rolie Baldock. email: <berd_kalamunda@'nospam'techemail.com>
Does this blank PC have a CD drive? Slackware used to have a setup
where you could install a nice complete distribution from
floppies. When I first became aware of Linux all I had was a laptop
with a hard drive, a floppy drive but no CD drive (this was in 1995),
and a friend showed me an ad where you could get linux on 50 floppies.
It was a slackware distribution and I got it and installed it. When
you get a Slackware CD, I think there are instructions on how to make a
set of installation floppies from the data on the CD.
If you do have both a floppy and a CD drive on this blank PC, then the
redhat CD should have some images that can be xferred to floppy using
some DOS utility (rawrite?) or standard unix utilities like dd or
cat, and you can boot up from the floppy which would be able to mount
the CD (unless it's some strange, old proprietary hardware, not SCSI
or IDE), and then install the distribution.
-- email me at rahul.net, not ragwind...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan Hoyt)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:34:57 GMT
Who ever said Jean-David Beyer couldn't write what follows?:
>Steve Lamb wrote:
>>
>> On 26 Dec 2000 01:22:35 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > find / -name emacs -print
>>
>> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
>>
>Us old-timers (from the early 1970s using the UNIX O.S.) insist on it
>because, without it, you got no output (or an error message, I forget
>which). As time passed, the necessity of -print was reduced (though not
>eliminated), but old habits die hard. If you read the first edition of
>the manual page, you would see why people, once they found a way to get
>the program to work at all, never changed how they did it. Newer manual
>pages are much better.
Even so, it's always safer to force an option rather than just using
defaults. Just my opinion, however.
--
Bryan Hoyt
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http://www.crosswinds.net/~artmusic
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If computers get too powerful, we can organize
them into a committee -- that will do them in.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Building new system
Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:36:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:23:11 GMT, mike staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>I want to replace my computer with newer stuff (this P-200 system is too
>slow to be any fun anymore). I'll probably buy parts and build it.
>Problem is, I've been out of the loop for so long I don't even know what a
>decent Linux baseline system is anymore. So:
>This is a system for home use. I don't play any games. I use it mainly
>for Internet and some working from home.
>
>Which processor?
>Which m/b?
>How much and what kind of RAM?
>What kind of video/how much video RAM?
>I've always liked how easy IDE is but I'd like to get a scanner and a
> recordable CD setup so should I switch to SCSI or stick with lower cost
> IDE (I don't know jack about SCSI)?
>I don't want anything that's bleeding-edge - I just want something faster
>and more modern. And I'd like to keep it around $1000 (or less).
I'd recommend an AMD Duron, somewhere on the low side of the MHz range.
500? Don't know precisely which motherboard to get; my advice would be
to go with something from the middle end of the price range. Get as
much RAM as you can afford; RAM is cheaper now than it has been for a
while. 128M at minimum, 256 if you can afford it. If you're not doing
3D games, get a Matrox G400--really nice picture quality, works like a
champ under all modern Linux distros. Go ATi Xpert9x if you need
something dirt-cheap and reasonable. Avoid Intel; the price/performance
is worse than AMD's unless you must have SMP.
If you're getting a scanner, you have 2 options: SCSI and USB. The
really high-end stuff is SCSI; always has been. There are a number of
USB scanners that work with Linux; check http://linux-usb.org/ and look
under "Scanners" for the lowdown. SCSI disks are generally better-built
and cost more, but they use less CPU time and share the larger bus more
effectively than their IDE counterparts. A SCSI CD-RW is still the best
option, but recent IDE CD-RWs perform well and cost a lot less.
If you need max. performance, go SCSI. If you want lots of disks, go
SCSI. If you want to get reasonable performance for cheap for a home
system, go IDE.
>And is there a Linux site somewhere which lists suggestions for system
>components that will work together (not the hardware validation site)?
Eh? There aren't many problems of the "FooCard 200 doesn't work with
BarMotherboard BAZ-11" variety. I'd suggest going to
http://pricewatch.com/ or a similar site, picking out a set of pieces
that looks good, then trying to validate those pieces via
linuxhardware.com or your distro of choice's hardware compatibility
list. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:44:55 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:34:57 GMT, Bryan Hoyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Even so, it's always safer to force an option rather than just using
>defaults. Just my opinion, however.
I just wonder how many pipe to tar instead of usr tar xzf, er, tar xzvf.
Heh, already someone posted with * instead of \* and was counting on bash's
automagic "do-the-right-thing" instead of forcing the issue. Seems kind of,
well, hypocritical, doesn't it?
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: RTF Printing
Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:47:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:14:53 -0000, clear staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>Anyone know how I can print RTF documents (without the use of a WP
>pacckage), ideally as a command lineoption?
http://freshmeat.net/projects/rtf2ps/
...OK, it's not self-contained, but you can use it in a pipeline to lpr,
most likely. No idea about the output quality, as I have no complex
RTFs to feed it. BTW, when you think to yourself, "I need $THING", it's
a good idea to go to freshmeat.net and do a search on $THING . Chances
are that someone's already done some work on it. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP Problem - need help urgently please!
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:31:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "jpenner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having an annoying problem with PPP in my Mandrake 7.0. As root, I
> can connect to my ISP and various other services, but none of my user
> accounts are able to. I can start KPPP, and it appears to behave
> normally, making the connection, and indicating that it has connected,
> but once it is connected, my web browser can not access anything on the
> web. I have set suid on my kppp, but to no avail. These are the
> permissions currently on my /etc/ppp directory, and as far as I can tell
> they seem correct:
>
Look through the kppp documentation. Section 5.2, I think, explains how
to do it.
- Dan White
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Question
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:36:04 GMT
In article <EIO26.3543$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to FTP from/to a linux server. It connects, but then says
> "Connection closed by remote host". I don't see any FTP services
> running on the linux server. Are there none installed, or do I just
> need to start a process?
>
> These are the relevant packages installed.
>
> [root]# rpm -qa | grep ftp
> ftp-0.15-1 gftp-2.0.4-1 ncftp-3.0beta19-2 tftp-0.15-1
>
You're missing the ftp server package. Try installing either wu-ftp or
proftpd
- Dan White
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thrashing HD
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:39:26 GMT
Zippy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought Linux could run woth less memory than Windows. Anyway
It can, but...
Netscape uses a lot of memory no matter what OS it runs under, and
many new window managers/desktops use a lot of RAM.
I'd either get more RAM, or switch to a lightweight window manager
such as fvwm or icewm, then only run Netscape when needed. As cheap as
RAM is at the moment, I'd go with the RAM.
> What swap spaces would I use for each and where is a good web
The rule used to be twice the physical memory. If you don't really
know what you need, that's still a good rule, later after seeing how
much swap you actually use, you'll know what is best for your style of
use.
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phantom bike, when the metal is hot and the engine is hungry and we're
all about to see the light... -Meatloaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan Hoyt)
Subject: Re: Can't connect error
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:42:22 GMT
Who ever said chmod007 couldn't write what follows?:
>try from the command line. 'export display=localhost:0.0' and then try
>startx again.
>
Wait a minute... It seems that should be 'export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0'. I'm
sure it's all caps.
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From: "Me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape frustration trying to view .txt docs
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 03:20:05 GMT
In article <92fpn1$gd3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me how to get the Netscape for Linux 4.7
> to DISPLAY a text document rather than saving it to disk? I tried
> setting up a mime type (Preferences>Navigator>Applications>New) but as
> soon as "MIMEType" is changed, the "Handled by Netscape" radio button
> dims out.
>
> Netscape and IE on the Mac and Windows have no problem displaying text
> pages. What am I missing?
>
> Thank You
> Crayton Boswell III
Here is the entry in my preferences for displaying text files. I don't
know if it will help or not, but its the way netscape came, and I haven't
yet had any difficulty displaying text files.
If you can't get it back, I'd maybe suggest deleting the preferences.js file
and let netscape remake the file next time you start netscape and see if
it corrects the problem.
Description: Plain Text
MIME Type: text/plain
Suffixes: txt,text
HTH...
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From: "Me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Asus PCProbe
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 03:25:53 GMT
In article <3a4b2eea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Noah"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My ASUS board came with this cool program which tells me the cpu temp,
> mb temp, and a bunch of other crap. Gives me an interface to work with
> the Software CPU cooling (whatever that is) and lets me view and set
> alarms for various temperatures and fan RPMs.....
>
> Does such a thing exist for linux? I think this is just an interface to
> the BIOS, if so how would one go about working with that? Some sort of
> ioctls?
lm_sensors
http://www.netroedge.com/~lm78/
There are quite a few GUI frontends/applets/dock apps to chose from as
well. Kind of depends upon what windowmanager etc that you prefer.
eg. I use windowmaker and the wmlm dock app.
HTH...
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From: Kimji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HD size?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 03:24:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> good idea, but it won't work if the kernel produces some messages and
> the info you try
> to grep could be lost.
>
> Try:
>
> df -P | grep dev | awk '{print $2}' | awk '{ used += $1} END {print
> "Total Size of all HD (MB): " int(used / 1024)}'
>
> That should work...:-)
I.e. one *has* to write a small script :)
Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:19:57 -0500
From: Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: modprobe complaining about serial devices at boot
I just got finished building a new kernel 2.2.16. Upon booting it I got
all kinds of messages about "undefined symbols" in modules. Ofcourse,
those modules weren't included in this kernel.
Ok, I remove /lib/modules/2.2.16 and rerun "make modules_install" to
only have the modules I include in this build.
Now on boot I get a bunch of the following messages:
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4
/dev/ttyS31: No such device
The ttyS19 to ttyS31 are listed on the screen, all before have scrolled
off of the screen to fast to read.
What have I done wrong?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:07:01 GMT
Hi John,
Hope you or others are still watching this space.<g> I'm currently
trying to install Linux Red Hat 6.1 with this driver without much
luck. I was wondering if you (John) managed to get it installed, and
what settings you chose to do this?
If anyone else has successfully installed Linux with this Graphics card
could you pass this information along please.
Cheers
Peter
In article <911plt$2k8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using the card without any problems. FreeBSD 4.1.1 and XFree86
> 3.somethingorother.
>
> "John Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm going to be building a new box for my son and I want to use my
> existing Ati Expert98 card in it. I would then like to purchase the
> diamond stealth III 540 and use it in my existing Linux/FreeBSD box.
>
> Is there any problems with the diamond card with either Linux or
> FreeBSD? It is on a Tyan 1590 mobo if that makes any difference.
>
> TIA
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .exe
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:09:13 GMT
thanks for the replies. i made a mistake. i'll research WINE and in the
meantime learn more anout tar & .gz, etc. take care!
dave
***** ***** *****
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heinz Rawe wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> > >
> > > hi all. i'm trying to find how to open a .exe file in RH 6.2. I'm
sure
> > > it's easy, but i cannot do it. i downloaded 'filename.exe' and
when i
> > > double-click, i'm prompted to "select an application to open" it
with?
> > > suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com
> > > http://www.deja.com/
> >
> > Hi there,
> > ".exe" is used in M$-WinXX for executable files. I don`t know what
> > happens with wine, vmware or anything else, if You want do make a
file
> > executable under linux, look at the manpage of chmod.
> > I think, this special file doesn`t work on a linux-box.
> > --
> > Gruss/Regards
> > Heinz
>
> Yeah, this is an executable for windows most likely. But if you
really
> want to run it, and it is a simple application, you can run it using
wine:
>
> wine filename.exe
>
> Simple as that. If you have any problems, you may want to get the
latest
> version of wine. You can get the latest version from
http://www.winehq.com
>
> Paul
> --
> ___________________________________________________________________
> In the year 2000 . . .
> Former members of the musical groups "Sha Na Na" and "Bow Wow Wow"
> will unite to form the supergroup, "Crap."
> -- Conan O'Brien
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: scriptable http...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:22:06 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Miguel De Buf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have to upload a file to the web-server using a http-post operation
>with the <input type=file> tag. I looked at lynx, but lynx does not
>support the post-operation for file-uploads :-((( Is there an
>alternative out there somewhere ??? By the way, I am using RH-linux and
>apache as webserver with php.
>
>Thx for your answer,
I assume that you know that Netscape can do file upload, or are you unable
to run X?
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From: Phlip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lean kernels run faster, right?
Date: 29 Dec 2000 04:30:11 GMT
John Hasler wrote:
> Phlip writes:
> > And it would occupy less permanent memory, so the user-mode memory
> > wouldn't need to swap so often, right?
>
> I wrote:
>
> > It would save you a few bytes, but it wouldn't solve your problem. If
> > you
> > run a Gnome desktop in 32M it _will_ swap. Gnome is a hog.
I should have made clear A> I'm not addicted to Gnome, B> it only swaps a
little, and C> I'm doing this to build a notebook I can write Gtk apps on.
I recompiled the kernel primarily because the Yamaha opl3sa2 sound chip's
DMA channel kept whacking the entire momma-board. I applied this tweak:
http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-user/msg04766.html
Along the way, like I said I would, I removed all the goodies that a
notebook would never have, like ISDN or Amateur Wireless Radio. You
Gnome-bashers might not realize just how much crap has to go out into a
desktop i586 distro. I have yet to perform time tests and such but the
initial subjective experience is faster.
And, yes, I'l go get the memory!
My next task will be to compile a lean version of Gnome. My first chore
will be to promote to the entire Unix community a single, unified,
inter-process String type. ;-)
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modules.conf: options opl3sa2 mss_io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=7 mpu_io=0x330
io=0x370
alias sound-slot-0 opl3sa2
options sound dmabuf=1
alias midi0 opl3
options opl3 io=0x388
options sound-slot-0 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=7 mss_io=0x530 mpu_io=0x330
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: scriptable http...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:31:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Miguel De Buf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have to upload a file to the web-server using a http-post operation
>with the <input type=file> tag. I looked at lynx, but lynx does not
>support the post-operation for file-uploads :-((( Is there an
>alternative out there somewhere ??? By the way, I am using RH-linux and
>apache as webserver with php.
>
>Thx for your answer,
I guess I should have looked at the subject line more closely before
replying. Perhaps you want to use (or install) the Perl LWP module which
can do many types of web access.
You can also POST with the Perl IO::Socket or just plain Socket modules if
you know what you are doing, but that would take a bit more work, since
you would have to come up with all the headers including Content-length
and I believe you would have to url-encode your data. I have done that,
but only to relay raw data that had already been posted, so the data was
already in its correct format.
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