Linux-Misc Digest #911, Volume #26 Wed, 24 Jan 01 22:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! ("Arctic Storm")
Netscape cut & paste (mike)
Re: Booting with no console
Re: Need a Browser (Steve Ackman)
5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference: Call for Papers (Sasha Keller)
Re: I want to reinstall Windows but keep Linux Ok....? (Robert Heller)
Re: Question about tarballs (Robert Heller)
Re: Netscape cut & paste (ljb)
Ethernet connection (Gordon Berta)
sylpheed mangles mail from spool (T S)
Re: searching particular cartoon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help Cant work in Gnome ("NG_lurker")
dev=3:05? (Dave Barcelo)
Re: "Home" in Konqueror (Cyber Trekker)
Re: dev=3:05?
Re: Need a Browser ("Bill Piety")
SMC 1211 Network Card - Problems with Kernel 2.4 ("Brian")
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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:18:58 -0800
> > There are a few tips here and there on upgrading the kernel in general,
> > but nothing specific for 2.4. I'm talking about the proverbial "Idiot's
> > Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4 Upgrade."
>
> Why do idiots need to upgrade to 2.4 now?
Ironically, although you may know slightly more about Linux than I do, I
seem to have greater insight and better understanding of the spirit of
Linux. Let me explain to you. The intension of Linux is to provide a
reliable/dependable product for productivity and utility, for *everyone*; to
help and serve the general public.
By the way, my phrase in the original post is in quotes, so that with use of
some common sense, it'll be obvious that it's in jest; no one is actually
accused of being an idiot.
> Here is a complete set of easy-to-understand instructions:
> Hire an expert to do it for you.
I will represent the Linux community and tell you that *information* and
*knowledge* regarding Linux is *free*, and will remain so with or without
the upgrade. It's reasonable to pay & charge for time/service for setup of
a computer system. However, not for the information & knowledge. Sharing
of knowledeg is free and is encouraged in Linux.
-
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape cut & paste
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:20:10 -0800
Hello all,
Does anyone know how I can fix my cut & paste abilities with
netscape 4.75? I'm running RH 7.0, KDE, etc. It seems the cut and
paste option is never enabled or "blacked - in" under "edit" when I'm
running netscape. It sure would be nice to be able to paste in some
URL's.
TIA,
Mike
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:49:46 -0500
The messages seem to be a bit different :
I have something like "no keyboard -- noisy cable ?" or something in that
direction . Definitely no "AT Keyboard" or anything .
I haven't searched for them yet, but I see them in the dmesg .
I dunno' about that slow down you mentioned
I switch on my gateway, and the samba server (Long time ago) .Fans, hdd's
spin up.
The gateway emits a single beep .A second later the samba server gives out a
"beeeeeep beep beep beep" noise , and then I hear the POST "all clear"
higher pitched beep. without looking for the initial boot sector and
active-partition read that occurs, I go up the stairs ( this is in the
basement ) , through the living room, and up to my room .By the time i sit
down and flip to the right desktop, i can telnet into both of them. So I am
not sure of what slow down the poster is refering to. But I am using only a
lowly P100 .
If however, one pulls the plug without shutting down, then the forced fsck
on the succeeding boot will take quite a while, depending on the hdd.
If you want to *really* know what a slow boot up is ( on a commercial OS ) ,
boot up win2000 using an ata -66 controller and an ata-66 compatable ide
hdd :) No amount of memory or processing speed will get over the minute
and half it takes to give you that initial login box.
Now _that_ , is a "pain in the arse" .
later.
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:13:40 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Error messages or not, they're still a pain in the arse that slow down
> > the boot process. The original question was can they be stopped,
>
> You're joking, aren't you? Printing messages on the screen doesn't
> slow down the boot, and why would you care even if you did lose a few
> milliseconds.
>
> If you don't like them, compile them out of your kernel. But they
> aren't in my kernel source. I searched.
>
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:53:41 -0500
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:22:23 -0500, Jon Rook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Today I downloaded a binary of the Mosaic browser. But in reading the
>documentation it seems that development on that browser was halted back
>in 1997 and I wonder if this browser will not have problems with some
>sites also.
>Can anyone recommend a good browser.
Arachne is fairly well-developed for DOS, but a bit less so
for Linux. Still, it does frames, cookies, referers, etc.
The 4.1.70 version for DOS even does CSS1. (along with an
integrated e-mail client)
The Linux version is still at 4.1.66, and lacks CSS and e-mail,
but is amazingly functional for a 745K download.
The next Linux release will be at 4.1.72. Judging on the rate
of past releases, that could be anywhere from a few weeks to
a few months.
(neither DOS nor Linux versions support JavaScript... yet)
Use the svgalib version on a console, or get ggi to use it in X.
This is the only graphical browser I'm aware of that runs on a
console. (and don't get scared off by the docs... it's never
crashed my machine, and rarely even chokes on bad HTML)
http://arachne.cz
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: Sasha Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference: Call for Papers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:08:31 -0800
5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001)
November 6-10, 2001
Oakland, CA USA
http://www.linuxshowcase.org
Sponsored by USENIX and the Atlanta Linux Showcase, Inc.,
in cooperation with Linux International
Now in its firth year, the Annual Linux Showcase & Conference
http://www.linuxshowcase.org continues its remarkable development
as the premier technical Linux conference, attracting expert talks on
everything from kernel internals to Internet services, panels
discussing the state of the Kernel, invited talks presenting
Linux in the real world, and more.
And this year, ALS breaks with tradition by moving out of
Atlanta to Oakland, CA!
The ALS 2001 Program Committee invites you to contribute your
ideas, proposals, and papers for tutorials, invited talks program,
refereed papers track, workshops, work-in-progress reports, and
symposia tracks. We welcome submissions that address any and
all issues relating to Linux and the Open Source world.
The Call for Papers with submission guidelines and suggested
topics is now available at http://www.linuxshowcase.org
Submissions are due June 5, 2001
Please join us and participate in the premier technical conference
for Linux enthusiasts and professionals! We look forward to seeing
you in the San Francisco Bay Area in November 2001!
===========================================
5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001) is
is sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems
Association, and the Atlanta Linux Showcase, in cooperation
with Linux International.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to reinstall Windows but keep Linux Ok....?
Date: 24 Jan 2001 19:13:20 -0600
"Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:41:50 +0200, wrote :
"V> Hi!
"V>
"V> I want to format my Windows partition and reinstall it (again...) without
"V> damaging my Linux partition. Is it safe to go
"V>
"V> format C: /s
"V>
"V> (which I have always done) or would this damage LILO somehow? My LILO is
"V> installed in the MBR.
LILO is fine (so far). Windows *might* clobber the MBR. Windows
*might* need you to clobber the MBR. You can reset the MBR with the
MS-DOS fdisk command:
A:\> FDISK /MBR
(DON'T do this before making a boot floppy as shown below.)
"V>
"V> Also, how do I make a Linux bootdisk?
Boot up Linux, then (as root):
/sbin/mkbootdisk `uname -r`
Insert a blank floppy when asked and hit return. Pop the floppy out and
save for later.
"V>
"V> Thanks!
"V>
"V> Kind regards,
"V>
"V> Stefan Viljoen
"V> F/EMS Dispatcher
"V> Potchefstroom F/EMS
"V> South Africa
"V> http://home.intekom.com/rylan/
"V>
"V>
"V>
"V>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about tarballs
Date: 24 Jan 2001 19:13:21 -0600
Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:31:22 -0500, wrote :
S> I've got a question about tarballs. basically how do you go about
S> creating one and extracting one. I'm new so be gentle please. :-) Well,
S> new to Linux at least, not to computers.
S>
S> Thanks!
S> Scott
S>
Create a compressed tar file:
tar czvf tarfile.tar.gz files...
eXtract a compressed tar file:
tar xzvf tarfile.tar.gz
Type a listing of the contents of a compressed tar file:
tar tzvf tarfile.tar.gz
For an *uncompress* tar file: same as above, but leave out the 'z'.
Quick (eazy to remember) reference (most commonly used options):
c (Create), x (eXtract), t (Type) One of these is needed
z ([un]gZip, optional)
v (Verbose, optional)
f (File) This optional, but generally needed, since the
default is not useful anymore (refers to a older
tape drive device). A file name of '-' is
stdin/stdout (for pipeline usage).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: Netscape cut & paste
Date: 25 Jan 2001 01:26:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know how I can fix my cut & paste abilities with
>netscape 4.75? I'm running RH 7.0, KDE, etc. It seems the cut and
>paste option is never enabled or "blacked - in" under "edit" when I'm
>running netscape. It sure would be nice to be able to paste in some
>URL's.
Netscape is kind of weird in this way (and many others) in that
it is a hybrid of Windows and X Window System behavior. Sometimes
the X methods work, not the Edit menus: Click your center mouse key to
paste in a URL you copied from (for example) an X Terminal by
dragging through it with the left mouse button held down, for example.
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From: Gordon Berta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet connection
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:25:29 GMT
Can anyone refer me to installing my ethernet module on RedHat 7,
installed as dual boot with windows me. I have a D-Link DFE-530TX pci
Fast Ethernet card, supplied by Bell Sympatico, running on 400MHZ
Pentium with 64MB Ram. I installed redhat as a desktop, but cannot find
info on installing the ethernet module to run my High Speed Modem.
Thanks
Gord
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: T S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sylpheed mangles mail from spool
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:50:12 +0000
I am running Mandrake 7.2 and Sylpheed 4.52 built from a source rpm. I had
a previous version, deleted all those settings and started from scratch.
Here is the problem. Fetchmail goes out and gets mail. Korn, Mail and
practically everything else sees multiple files in the spool. I get
Sylpheed to get the mail. Sylpheed then combines all the messages in the
spool into one mail message. I have no clue why it's doing this!
Please help!
thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: searching particular cartoon
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:15:18 +0000
Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> a little of topic but here we go: about a year ago I saw a cartoon showing
> MS only producing mice and Gates complaining that business had been more
> interesting before they broke up the company.
> I'm going to set up some Inet terminals using Linux (of course) but we
> have only MS mice for them and I would love to have the above mentioned
> cartoon for this purpose :)
> If you know where to find it pls let me know. Thanks, Gerald
Sounds like it might be the Userfriendly comic strip.
www.userfriendly.org
(It's a daily strip though you you'll have to trawl through the archives).
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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help Cant work in Gnome
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:10:02 +0300
Hi to all!
I cant describe how happy i was after installing Linux RH7 successfully on
my Win98/Win2K dual-boot system. As a Linux newbie, i consider this a feat.
Unfortunately, my joy is short-lived for I cant see a thing in Gnome
desktop. My display screen is corrupted. Any menu i click spits out multiple
windows in all directions. Now what? Is there a workaround for this?
Graphics card is 3D Blaster Savage Pro x 32 Mb x 128 RAM memory.
Please help!
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From: Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dev=3:05?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:39:16 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is dev 3:05? How do you find out what these device numbers are?
Thanks in advance
Dave
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From: Cyber Trekker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: "Home" in Konqueror
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:15:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
> My Konqueror doesn't have "Create New" under
> Edit yet, so I think they haven't finished
> that menu. Once it's done you could make a
> button for your home URL that would be as
> good as a "home" button in any other browser.
What version is the Konqueror you're using? Mine is 1.9.8 (using KDE 2.0) and
it has the Create New in the Edit menu.
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dev=3:05?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:31:16 -0500
major number 3, minor number 5 .
That's how in my system the linux kernel refers to my root file systes
which is on hda5 )
hda : 3:00
hda1 : 3:01
hda2: 3:02
and so on.
go to /dev and do "ls -al" ( list all, in long format ) and watch.
pipe to "more" to get it page by page . i.e., "ls -al | more".
Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What is dev 3:05? How do you find out what these device numbers are?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Dave
>
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From: "Bill Piety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:50:50 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jon Rook"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4 recently and Netscape was
> included in the distribution. I've noticed that there are many web
> sites out there that cause this version of Netscape to lock-up. I've
> tried using the KDE File Manager (KFM) and that seems more robust, but I
> haven't been able to figure out how download a file from the web with
> this 'browser'. Today I downloaded a binary of the Mosaic browser. But
> in reading the documentation it seems that development on that browser
> was halted back in
> 1997 and I wonder if this browser will not have problems with some sites
> also. Can anyone recommend a good browser.
>
> Thanks, Jon
I've been trying various snapshots of Mozilla - it's currently more
resource intensive than Netscape (and I've found 4.75 and 4.76 very
stable) but quite a good effort. Once you've got Mozilla installed you
can try Galeon - a lighter, browser only option that runs on top of
'zilla.
There's now a usable version of Opera - however it's currently a time
limited version (30 days), unlike it's Windows counterpart.
Nautilus also has a browser component. I wouldn't recommend it for day to
day use as a browser, however. It's currently under serious development.
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMC 1211 Network Card - Problems with Kernel 2.4
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:01:20 GMT
Hi,
I just compiled the 2.4 kernel under Mandrake 7.2...
Everything worked great (I thought)... No error messages or anything when
compiling...
On booting, however, with the new 2.4 kernel I noticed that eth0 failed,
which suggests that my network card was incorrectly selected when I set up
the new kernel.
My question is, which card should I select, that supports the SMC 1211, when
setting this kernel up?
Thank you for any help... =)
Note: Please send a copy of any replies to -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks again!
- Brian -
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