Linux-Misc Digest #928, Volume #26 Fri, 26 Jan 01 17:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help (Jesper Petersen)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Wiegand)
Re: Windows98 sees Linux-disk as CD (Robert Wiegand)
Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? (Hugh Lawson)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Craig Kelley)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Craig Kelley)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Mig)
Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help (Dave Brown)
Re: Hoe to make a disk image? (Dave Brown)
Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat (Dave Brown)
Re: I NEED TO BOOT W/OUT A FLOPPY (Dave Brown)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 (Dave Brown)
Re: ip_masq_ftp (Dave Brown)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Craig Kelley)
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From: Jesper Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:37:16 GMT
>Use an editor.
Would have been a great answer if I knew how to - I can find the file but
don't know how to manipulate it with an editor.
Jesper
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:45:08 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94spcu$pre$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
> > corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
> > you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
> > electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
> > House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
> > he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
> > can be done, but it does take work.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>
> Happy dreamworld,
Your vote for president may not count, but your vote for congresspeople
does. Only the presidential election uses the electorate system.
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:12:24 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Withers wrote:
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
Waht about Mac, OS/2 or Be?
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
Much of "Linux" is GNU software written in the US.
Even Linus T. now lives in the US so the latest versions of the
Linux kernel are now from the US as well.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows98 sees Linux-disk as CD
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:15:41 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerard H. Pille wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If you wonder why I ask this question here, it's because I know where
> one can get an answer.
>
> I installed Linux on a separate disk, a slave on the same ide-port as
> the master. Used Linux fdisk to partition it. LILO MBR on the master
> disk.
>
> Now Windows sees these partitions as CD-ROMS.
>
> If you wonder why I care, it's because I have a cd-writer too, and HP's
> burning software is not so bright, in so far that it allways writes to
> the first CD-device it finds, burner or not. Now I wouldn't like to
> burn my Linux installation.
>
> So, if one of you sees the light at the end of the tunnel, and wants to
> share his illuminicence ...
>
> Thanks,
What partiton types did you use for Linux? A listing of your partition
tables would have been useful.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Subject: Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:35:09 GMT
In article <9ilc6.10983$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian Dellert wrote:
>Is there a utility for finding the absolute path of a file? For example:
>
> abspath somefile
>
>would output
>
> /home/brian/somefile
>
Look up 'updatedb' and 'locate'. These provide a database of all
filenames, which can be accessed by the 'locate' command. Very useful,
and much faster than 'find', though the locate database requires updating.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:56:59 -0700
Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> > choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
>
> And what about Jon Johannsen (I hope I remembered his name correctly)
> who wrote the DeCCS code?
Yep, forgot about that. The US court system did pressure them,
though.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:00:26 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>
> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
> elses, any time.
You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
We just need better election equipment. Jeb Bush's primary goal right
now is to upgrade all the counties in Florida, so he can wipe the egg
off his face. Even in remote states like Idaho, we're re-vamping the
entire system before the next congressional election.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:58:27 +0100
Thaddeus L Olczyk wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2001 18:56:19 GMT, Steve Mading
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't forget the kernel was based on the Minix kernel written by
Nonsens
> Tanenbaum. I believe he was American.
He is Dutch
--
Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 13:54:04 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jesper Petersen wrote:
>> One way to "fix" it is to edit the appropriate screen section
>>of your XF86Config file to put your maximum resolution first
>
>I'm totally new to Linux... so I don't know where to find my XF86Config file,
>and it's a bit hard for me to navigate as I often can't se the lower parts of
>a window. Would you (or somebody else) tell me how to find it? If it isn't too
>difficult maybe how to manipulate the file in textmode.
>
>> Another approach is to try <alt><ctrl><keypad +> until you
>>get to the screen resolution you like.
>
>Unfortunately this didn't work.
Hi, Jesper,
Please be patient with those who are trying to help, but being extremely
impatient with you.
Trying to get linux to run on a laptop is probably the biggest challenge of
all. If you go to the Linux Documentation Project (www.linuxdoc.org), you
will probably find Links to a number of resources, one being the Laptop
Volunteer Database, which may have your laptop listed, and what it took
for someone to set up Linux on it.
What you're seeing now is what happens when X cannot find any resolutions
which the monitor/video chip hardware can use due to timing problems. So it
defaults to 320x200, or something like that. Until you get the proper X
server configured, your installation is probably useless in the graphical
mode. As far as things being "difficult to manipulate" in a text mode,
difficult is relative (and this is Unix, after all), you might spend a couple
of days learning "text mode operations", as it will come in handy in the
future.
Perhaps another option is to simply set up XF86_VGA16, which is what the
graphical installer of RH uses--works on practically anything beyond a TV set.
Unfortunately, I don't believe it goes beyond 640x480, and 16 colors is not
very "photogenic".
As one of the responses stated, RH 6.0 is far too old to have support for
recent laptops. You'd be best to start with RH 6.2.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Hoe to make a disk image?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:09:23 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lorenzo Thurman wrote:
>I work in a university lab with student consultants that help users with
>any problems that they may have. They are not too technical, but are
>called upon for technical tasks from time to time. The computers we have
>run Win2000, but some grad students use boot disks to netboot these
>machines into Linux. They also walk off with these disks sometimes
>leaving none for others. What I would like to do is use rawrite along
>with a batch file that they can double click and have an image written
>to disk for them. The catch is, I don't know how to make an image from a
>linux disk. Can someone help me out with this one?
If you have a good one, put it in the floppy drive,
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=disk.img
then put blank diskettes in the drive and,
dd of=/dev/fd0 if=disk.img
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:18:40 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>I just installed RedHat 7.0 with Server mode selected. However, it can't run
>the Xwin and looks missing the required program (I tried XF86Config).
>
>Can anyone help me to install Xwin for further configuration?
>
>Regards,
>Bill
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
A "server" install does not install X, since it assumes there won't
be any user sitting at the "server".
You need 5 rpm packages to run X on RH. XFree86-3.3.6..., XFree86-lib...
XFree86-xfs... XFree86-75dpi... and XFree86-SVGA-(or whatever Xserver
you video card needs). Since there are built-in dependencies linking these
5 packages, you have to install them in a particular order (which I don't
remember), or use the --nodeps option. You probably also want to install
the Xconfigurator package.
Of course, that will get X up and running, but then you'll have to go
back and install X applications--gnome, kde, etc. (Don't you wish you
had not chosen the "server" installation by now?) The best choice for
install is "Custom"... then you can choose the major bundles of packages.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: I NEED TO BOOT W/OUT A FLOPPY
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:30:17 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan wrote:
>I just installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 and everything works fine except
>LILO. I can boot fine from a floppy but I can't see the LILO boot without
>the floppy. I tried to reinstall LILO in the MBR but I don't think I did
>it correctly. Please help me and info would be appreciated...
It may be too late...
Your linux installation (at least, the kernel image), must be located
below 8 GB (i.e., 1024 cylinders). At least that's the case with most
motherboards and most versions of lilo out there. Some newer motherboards
have an 'extended BIOS' data area for disk addresses above 8 GB, but I
believe you need the latest version of Lilo to access that.
In lieu of the above, the solutions are to 1) boot from diskette, 2) use
"loadlin" at a command prompt in Win (best to boot Win in DOS mode, as
loadlin does not shutdown Windows gracefully), 3) create a small partition
below the 1024-cylinder limit for /boot (where the kernel image is stored)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:38:21 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher C. Stump wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I've run into a problem with firewalling under the 2.4.0 kernel on Red
>Hat 6.2 .
>
>My build of the kernel went smoothly. I compiled in the option for
>NetFilter so that I could use iptables. Under the NetFilter
>configuration options, I selected everything as modules except ipchains
>
>and ipfwdm(?) support. After kernel installation I downloaded the
>iptables package and installed it.
>
>From what I understand, that is all I need to do. However, when I try
>to test iptables with a rule specified towards the loopback device
>(iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -p icmp -j DROP...test as seen in the
>iptables HOWTO), I get the following error message:
>
>"iptables v1.2: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
>(do you need to insmod?)Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be
>upgraded."
>...
>One interesting thing to note is that when I run the 'lsmod' command, I
>see no modules loaded that seem to relate to packet filtering. Are
>there modules that I need to manually install in order to get iptables
>to work? If so, what are they? The error message seems to indicate that
>some modules need to be loaded, but I thought the modules made for the
>kernel were "loaded on demand" and that I didn't need to do anything.
I've not used the 2.4 kernel, so I can help you there (just reading
about it at this point). But (asking a stupid question), you DID
boot the new kernel, didn't you? (Just compiling a kernel doesn't help,
you have to USE the kernel.)
The message about "maybe you need a module" is simply a hint from iptables
that no support for what it needed was found in the kernel, perhaps because
you'd modularized it, instead of "compiling it in" the kernel image. You
didn't indicate which you'd done, but if it was "compiled-in", you wouldn't
see any modules with lsmod. That only shows inserted modules.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: ip_masq_ftp
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:39:53 -0600
In article <lA8c6.60381$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Edelbrok wrote:
>Can anyone give me info on ip_masq_ftp? ie: how it works? links?
>
I'm not sure what you're asking when you say "how it works". But
use of it is described in the IP-Masquerading HOWTO, as I recall.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:07:30 -0700
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > G'day
> >
> > I've been following developments closely on this.
> >
> > It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> > to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
> No. Several key MS programs will require Activation, which is not the same
> thing as registration.
>
> Registration gives your name, address, etc.. basically the same thing as
> those warranty cards. This puts you on mailing lists, etc..
>
> Activation doesn't require you to give any information, other than a one way
> hash code (similar to PGP public keys) generated from your hardware
> configuration. They won't even ask your name (if you activate manually, if
> you do it over the internet it's quite seamless).
The result is the same: one copy, one computer.
> > This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> > how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> > and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
> You mean they should stop breaking the law? You guys are such hypocrites.
> You bitch about how MS is a criminal organization and needs to be punished,
> but when the law applies to you, suddenly it's unfair?
Agreed. Free software users should be loving this. We don't pirate
by definition -- only Windows people pirate software.
Oh yeah, and Amiga users too... :)
> > In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> > both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> > it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
> Every year? Where do you get this. This is not subscription licensing.
Microsoft has said they want to go to this, what could this
'activation system' be other than a precuror of that eventuality? As
soon as an 'activation system' is in place, what's to stop a
'deactivation system' ala UCITA being implemented?
> > It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> > one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> > desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> > systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
> Sorry, Open Source was essentially created by RMS, an American who followed
> his principles for something like 10+ years before Linus got on the
> bandwagon.
RMS has nothing to do with Open Source, he doesn't even care for it
much. RMS advocates Free Software, and, yes, there is a huge
difference between the two; primarilly:
o Open Source purports to be better than closed source software on
merits alone (ie, it's always better, more secure, etc.).
o Open Source software doesn't necessarily guarantee the rights
of the programmer as RMS sees it (BSD licensing and such).
> Why do you people like to think the US never invents anything?
Some are obviously still upset about the US being so successful. Most
Europeans that I know personally are not so lame. (Most of them even
like Microsoft Windows too!)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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