Linux-Misc Digest #985, Volume #26 Wed, 31 Jan 01 20:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: I wish to RTFM, but where is TFM I need? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Hello, asking for help (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Programming (Jean-David Beyer)
Kwvdial and Kppp problems (Degenerate)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Kwvdial and Kppp problems (Bill Unruh)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: mandrake vs redhat? (Arctic Storm)
Re: <time.h> clock() function in gcc 2.91.66 on Linux (Gernot Neppert)
Why no audio gaps between songs with cdrecord in DAO mode (Kevin)
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I wish to RTFM, but where is TFM I need?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:21:44 -0500
Kenneth Mair wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:51:49 -0500, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <snippetty snip snip>
>
> >PEERDNS is not in man pppd.
>
> From man pppd :
>
> usepeerdns
> Ask the peer for up to 2 DNS server addresses. The
> addresses supplied by the peer (if any) are passed
> to the /etc/ppp/ip-up script in the environment
> variables DNS1 and DNS2. In addition, pppd will
> create an /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file containing one
> or two nameserver lines with the address(es)
> supplied by the peer.
>
Sure thing. But if you found your system crashing X Window System after
logging into your dial-up ISP, would you do a man pppd to find out why
this was happening? It sure did not occur to me. PEERDNS is still not in
man pppd, and usepeerdns does not appear in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0, so I would not have thought
to look for it.
First I figured out it was overwriting /etc/resolv.conf.
Then I groped around in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and found out
that ifcfg.post was doing it, but could not find the entries in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that handled the stuff there, and the
interactions between those scripts and the one in /sbin/ifup and G.O.K.
what else are perplexing to me. Furthermore, the system had a very
similar ifcfg-ppp0 to the one after the upgrade. What was required were
two changes to the ifcfg-ppp0 that I could not find documented anywhere.
I even tried sticking RESOLV_MODS=no in there to stop this, but it did
not stop it. I never figured out why, and no longer care.
I have misgivings about one of the changes I made (changing PERSIST=yes
to PERSIST=NO), but I was desparate and could not leave the system in a
state where I could not disconnect from my dial-up ISP without having it
redial it within a few seconds.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:10pm up 3 days, 2:39, 3 users, load average: 2.95, 2.98, 2.93
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello, asking for help
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:26:04 -0500
tony wrote:
>
> Hi I just want it to know, which programming language can be used to
> create an operating system such as lynex, microsoft ect.
>
Just about any one. You could probably do it in Algol-60, B, C, C++,
myriad assemblers, ... .
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:25pm up 3 days, 2:54, 3 users, load average: 3.06, 3.06, 3.00
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Programming
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:28:18 -0500
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> Q: How do you stop a Windows NT machine from crashing?
> A: Shut it down and switch it off.
That does not always work. Sometimes when I run Windows 95 on my other
machine, when I press Start->Shutdown->Yes (or whatever the sequence
is), the damned thing crashes instead of shutting down.
A simpler solution is to do the ultimate software upgrade; i.e., to
Linux.
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:25pm up 3 days, 2:54, 3 users, load average: 3.06, 3.06, 3.00
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From: Degenerate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kwvdial and Kppp problems
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:30:08 -0000
Hey everyone:
I'm new to Linux,I got Mandrake 7.2. After about 2 weeks of trying to make
my winmodem work with Linux,I finally got it working. But usually when I
solve one problem,another one comes around. My modem dials the phone of my
ISP and logs on. But I have a problem when I dial with both Kppp and
Kwvdial. I first used Kppp to dial. I dialed into my ISP and I opened the
log window to see what was going on. When I always get connected (after
the Login: and Password: prompts,I would get a CONNECT 115200 prompt,which
of course means I logged in my ISP) I immediatly get disconnected with a
message saying 'PPPD Daemon died unexpectedly' and an Error 99. In all the
sites I visited to check out if I could solve the problem,most of them
were suggesting to use wvdial. I used the graphical program (Kwvdial) and
I got to log in without getting disconnected. Then I had two problems: I
went to Netscape and it didn't want to get any web site,it was working as
if I were offline. And the worse problem is that after exactly 30
seconds,my computer would freeze. I tried countless times,changing
different files that people said that would help
(/etc/ppp/options, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts, and so on) and it always
freezes with Kwvdial and it always gives me the 'PPPD Daemon died...'.
Anyone with the same problem? Any help would be appreciated. Please don't
give me any advice that I would find on a HOW-TO because I practicaly read
everyone one out there. Thanks!!!
Dennis Martinez
Puerto Rico
--
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:47:43 -0500
Ian Davey wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Atheism is active disbelief, Agnisticism is skepticism about the belief.
> >>
> >> No, atheism is lack of belief.
> >
> >No..that's agnosticism.
>
> Nope, agnosticism is a position similar to "I've not made my mind up yet."
> That's not a lack of belief, just an admission of not really knowing what to
> believe.
>
> >A theism *IS* a belief....specifically a belief in the null postulate.
>
> This seems more the typical Christian expression of Atheism, trying to
> position it as a belief system. It means "without theism" in the same way that
> amoral means "without morality". So you can argue semantics, and some may try
> and turn Atheism into a belief system, especially Christians because they
> like to paint it that way. It's not something you practice or follow though,
> you don't actually need to do or believe anything to be an Atheist.
>
> As far as Atheists are concerned, god doesn't exist any more than Santa Claus
> or the Easter Bunny.
Which *IS* a belief in itself.
> You don't have to actively not believe in their
> existence, they merely exist as nice stories for people who feel they need
> them (IMHO).
"Not believing in" something is a belief in that something's non-existance.
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Kwvdial and Kppp problems
Date: 31 Jan 2001 23:54:15 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Degenerate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Hey everyone:
]I'm new to Linux,I got Mandrake 7.2. After about 2 weeks of trying to make
]my winmodem work with Linux,I finally got it working. But usually when I
]solve one problem,another one comes around. My modem dials the phone of my
]ISP and logs on. But I have a problem when I dial with both Kppp and
]Kwvdial. I first used Kppp to dial. I dialed into my ISP and I opened the
]log window to see what was going on. When I always get connected (after
]the Login: and Password: prompts,I would get a CONNECT 115200 prompt,which
]of course means I logged in my ISP) I immediatly get disconnected with a
]message saying 'PPPD Daemon died unexpectedly' and an Error 99. In all the
]sites I visited to check out if I could solve the problem,most of them
]were suggesting to use wvdial. I used the graphical program (Kwvdial) and
]I got to log in without getting disconnected. Then I had two problems: I
]went to Netscape and it didn't want to get any web site,it was working as
]if I were offline. And the worse problem is that after exactly 30
]seconds,my computer would freeze. I tried countless times,changing
]different files that people said that would help
](/etc/ppp/options, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts, and so on) and it always
]freezes with Kwvdial and it always gives me the 'PPPD Daemon died...'.
]Anyone with the same problem? Any help would be appreciated. Please don't
]give me any advice that I would find on a HOW-TO because I practicaly read
]everyone one out there. Thanks!!!
Well, since I have no idea if you tried
www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
I will point it out to you anyway. This is a step by step method of
connecting with pppd and debugging the connection if you have trouble.
I do NOT suggest you use any frontend, as they usually cause more
trouble than they solve.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:50:54 -0500
Nick Condon wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron R. Kulkis) wrote:
> >Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Nick Condon wrote:
> >> > > Microsoft has a centrally planned, state granted, exclusive
> >> > > monopoly. That's not very libertarian.
> >> >
> >> > No, it's not "state granted" If it was, they wouldn't have been
> >> > CONVICTED of criminal conduct in Federal Court.
> >>
> >> sure it is. what do you think copyright is? copyright is a state
> >> enforced monopoly. no state enforcement, no copyright -- look at
> >> middle/far east.
> >
> >By that definition EVERYBODY is a monopolist, as you retain the
> >copyright for whatever you create.
>
> Copyright is a state-granted, state-enforced, exclusive monopoly just like
> the monopoly on tea held by the East India Company that contributed to the
> American Revolution.
>
> The British government believed that granting monopolies was necessary to
> encourage risky ventures (like setting up trading posts in India). Does
> that remind you of anything?
The post office.
However, this has NOTHING to do with Microsoft. They have NEVER been
*granted* a government-sanctioned monopoly.
Therefore, any argument about Microsoft's legitimacy based on the
model of a government sanctioned monopoly (like, say, Bell Telephone and
the US phone system up until 1984 or so) is null and void.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:51:55 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Nick Condon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harlan Grove) wrote in <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Absolutely true. It's how we define 'freedom'. For those in the US of
> > > > > >Libertarian bent, Microsoft can do what it wants to within certain
> > > > > >legal bounds (which it's overstepped, IMO).
> > > > >
> > > > > Microsoft has a centrally planned, state granted, exclusive monopoly.
> > > > > That's not very libertarian.
> > > >
> > > > No, it's not "state granted" If it was, they wouldn't have been
> > > > CONVICTED of criminal conduct in Federal Court.
> > >
> > > sure it is. what do you think copyright is? copyright is a state
> > > enforced monopoly. no state enforcement, no copyright -- look at
> > > middle/far east.
> >
> > By that definition EVERYBODY is a monopolist, as you retain the copyright
> > for whatever you create.
>
> (exceptions being those who live in a place whos government doesn't
> have copyright law, those who release to public domain and those who
> don't create.)
>
> sure. but what's your point? it's still a monopoly on something.
> everyone can have their little monopolies on some particular items
> they've created.
>
> if you write a book, i assume that people can choose not to read it.
> but if somehow they *had* to read it for whatever reason, then suddenly
> you have real monopoly power given to you through threats of
> governmental force in protecting copyright.
>
> thus we see that microsoft, by making their software nearly essential
> to people, can wield enormous power. they have no competition -- no
> one else makes *windows* (os/2, wine &c are close) and no one else
> makes ms-word (but many word processors can import/export the
> format to some degree).
How many publishers have you hassled if they DARED print a word
produced by other writers?
That, my friend, is the difference.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake vs redhat?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:09:54 GMT
> > At my company there has been a big wave of defections from redhat to
> > mandrake, which is supposed to be "redhat compliant". One of the most
> > attractive things is that mandrake has built in IBm viavoice voice
> > recgonition.
>
> The only reason to be "Redhat compliant" is if you're running complicated
> comericial apps like Oracle for which you're relying on their commercial
> support. It makes installation and setup easier because you can just
> follow
> the prompts, etc. If you make a support call, the drone on the other end
> can lead you through stuff by telling you, "OK now click on this..."
>
> > My concern is that the support for Mandrake is not as good as with
> > Redhat as far as mailing lists, updates on their webpage, etc, etc.
>
> What makes you think Redhat is really any good for this? Prominent brand
> names can make you think you'll be plugged into the main event or
> something,
> and that by using anything else you'll be missing out. In practice, the
> opposite may be true. I run both Mandrake 7.2 and Redhat 6.2. Mandrake
> is built for the typical desktop user, has more followers in that
> category, and
> thus probably better support. If you were running a *big* server, you
> might
> want Redhat. The idea is to plug into the community which has similar
> goals to yours.
>
> But all that's splitting hairs. They're both Linux, dammit. Mandrake is
> structured the same as Redhat, so the same stuff will be in the same
> places. It doesn't matter.
>
> > Are there any opinions? Are there any compelling reasons why I should
> > NOT switch to Mandrake and stay with (and tolerate) Redhat7.0?
>
> No, especially if you're a regular, desktop user. Mandrake is superior
> for
> this. It's more up to date, includes more useful apps, and configures
> itself better. It will take you less work to get a usable system with
> Mandrake. BTW, I wouldn't touch RH 7.0, nor will many commercial vendors.
> There's a good reason they're all still standardized on RH 6.2.
I was under the impression that Mandrake was based on RedHat, the way
RedHat was based on SlackWare.
I personally like the installation process of RedHat better than Mandrake.
I'm rcurrently unning RedHat 7, and had no problems. I upgraded the
compiler, XFree86, and KDE separately, and it runs beautifully. I'm sure
when RedHat 7.1 comes out, most commerical vendors will choose RedHat as
their standard of choice. My suggestion is for you to choose RedHat 7 now,
so when RedHat 7.1 comes out, upgrade will be seamless and smooth.
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From: Gernot Neppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++.moderated
Subject: Re: <time.h> clock() function in gcc 2.91.66 on Linux
Date: 31 Jan 2001 19:49:57 -0500
Rene Girard wrote:
>
>
> I would like to know what I should do to use the function clock() of
> <time.h> corectly. I am puzzled that it does not work well with gcc
> 2.91.66 under Linux as it is an ANSI C++ function.
>
The function clock() is supposed to yield the number of clock ticks that
the current process has been executed.
In a real multitasking system this does not correlate at all with the
time that has elapsed in between! (Strange enough that it works under
Windows NT)
I'm afraid you'll habe to use gettimeofday() instead and calculate the
difference between two structs of type time_val manually.
Cheers,
Gernot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why no audio gaps between songs with cdrecord in DAO mode
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:47:01 GMT
I've got a dilemma. cdrdao will let me adjust pregaps when
burning audio CDs. But cdrdao requires libraries newer than my
Mandrake 7.02 system came with. So, I'm trying to use cdrecord
with the -dao (disk at once) option. When I use -dao I *DON'T*
get 2 second gaps between songs. Instead the last two seconds of
the previous song are at -2 and -1 seconds into the current song.
There is no audible gap, only a swizzling of the displayed count.
I tried using info files, as suggested in the cdrecord manual
page, but I get the same result as without info files.
How can I get audio gaps between songs with cdrecord in
disk-at-once mode?
Here's how I'm running cdrecord:
cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,03,0 -eject \
driver=mmc_cdr -pad -audio -nopreemp -dao -useinfo *.wav
Here's what cdrecord tells me while recording:
pregap1: -1
Cdrecord 1.8.1 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000
J�rg Schilling
TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA
scsidev: '0,03,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 4
Response Format: 2
Capabilities : SYNC
Vendor_info : 'HP '
Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 9200 '
Revision : '1.0e'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
Drive buf size : 4171520 = 4073 KB
FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: audio 22 MB (02:12.46) no preemp
Track 02: audio 29 MB (02:53.89) no preemp pad
Track 03: audio 75 MB (07:30.53) no preemp
Total size: 127 MB (12:36.89) = 56767 sectors
Lout start: 127 MB (12:38/67) = 56767 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Is not unrestricted
Is not erasable
Disk sub type: 4
ATIP start of lead in: -11606 (97:27/19)
ATIP start of lead out: 335100 (74:30/00)
Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 18
Manufacturer: Plasmon Data systems Ltd.
Blocks total: 335100 Blocks current: 335100 Blocks remaining: 278333
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 8 in write mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01: 22 of 22 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 23367120/23367120 (9935 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 9935
Track 02: 29 of 29 MB written (fifo 100%).
WARNING: padding up to secsize.
Track 02: Total bytes read/written: 30674256/30674784 (13042 sectors).
Starting new track at sector: 22977
Track 03: 75 of 75 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 03: Total bytes read/written: 79474080/79474080 (33790 sectors).
Writing time: 117.306s
Fixating...
Fixating time: 25.000s
cdrecord: fifo had 4369 puts and 4369 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 1545 times full, min fill was 94%.
Thanks for any pointers....
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