Linux-Misc Digest #24, Volume #27 Sun, 4 Feb 01 16:13:01 EST
Contents:
cant connect to sourceforge (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: How to measure system load? (Dirk Groeneveld)
ide-scsi is killing me ("Gerard H. Pille")
Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1? (MH)
Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (Joost Gevers)
KDE dependencies... ("nybblex")
Re: suidperl problem (David Efflandt)
Re: display not capable of DPMS? (David)
Re: display not capable of DPMS? (David)
Re: Is Netscape 6 on Linux more stable than previous versions? (Kevin Nolan)
Berkeley "R" commands ("Tom Edelbrok")
Re: Script from dhcpcd ("Tom Edelbrok")
Re: problems with GDM at boot. Any help? (Mark Post)
Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (George White)
Re: TCP/IP problem (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Re: Tools for migrating ext2 to ReiserFS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: cant connect to sourceforge ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Zip command (Herb Stein)
Re: Linux Newbie Help!!!! (Herb Stein)
Re: default PATH for new user loaded from where? (Herb Stein)
Re: tar files (Herb Stein)
Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Dan Smith)
Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Dan Smith)
Can't find pre-built binaries of KDE2 for RedHat 6.2 (Arctic Storm)
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:09:13 +0100
Hi!
I can't log on to sourceforge with my distributionless linux.
With konqueror, I load www.sourceforge.net, click the login-link on the
left side, enter my information, press submit, and then see the message
"can't connect to sourceforge.net".
Same with w3m on the same machine.
>From another machine with the same network setup (except for a loopback
route) I can connect and login.
It doesn't matter whether I use a proxy or not.
Both the working and the non-working hosts are part of my local network,
which is conected to the internet with a masqueraded route (it's an
ipchains thing).
I have no clue.
Dirk
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to measure system load?
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:20:49 +0100
no name wrote:
> Uptime, then, will clearly do me no good at all. CPU utilization is, I
> expect, what I have to be measuring. Anybody know of a command-line
> utility (or daemon which can be called) which will give that information
> to stdio in parseable form?
top offers the information in human-readable form, but it gets all of it
from /proc. So, it has to be somewhere in there.
Sorry, I don't know any program save for top thas uses (or distributes)
that information.
Dirk
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From: "Gerard H. Pille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ide-scsi is killing me
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:54:17 +0100
or at least my system, the minute I load it as a module, or the minute I
use it as a kernel built-in.
I kept searching for over a week, and just now found the culprit.
It works OK when I remove via82cxxx (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX) from my
configuration.
I selected this option since I have a Abit VP6 motherboard with a
vt82c694X/vt82c686b (says Abit) (/proc/pci says vt82c693a/694x - Apollo
Pro133X).
Is there a known conflict between these options / modules ?
Thanks,
--
Gerard H. Pille
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1?
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:58:40 +0000
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
<snip>
> It has taken about 7 years to get linux nfs v2 perfectly safe and
> reliable. So it will take about 7 years to get nfs v3 perfectly safe and
> reliable. Then in about 7 years time I might consider it to be as good as
> the present variety, and change to it.
>
Seems like the rate of change around all things Linux is much more rapid
these days!
>
> Installation is something you only do once. It should not be a
> consideration.
>
Not when you're learning, as I am. I've botched a couple of systems (with
X and such) so badly it was easier to reinstall than figure out where all
the problems were and fix them. I've also had to repartition drives
several times, which means reinstalling. I recently lost my mouse, e.g.
and couldn't figure out why. Spent several hours futzing about to no
avail, so I just reinstalled everything. Took less than an hour.
> When I installed debian (the one time), it took me about three days.
> That was how long it took to bootstrap up to the point of being able to
> read the manpage for dpkg and apt-get. I had to install the base
> packages for the old distro first, then reverse engineer the package
> format, then replace every single base package from the old distro with
> packages from the new distro by unpacking it into tarred components,
> installing the tars, then running the post-install scripts. It took me
> the three days to find where they'd hidden nroff and other text utils,
> without which I couldn't look for where they'd hidden nroff and other
> text utils ...
>
> .. I understand its easier now. But then that wasn really difficult.
> Just painful. Not that anything could be more painful than actually
> reading dselect (except possibly, using rpm). Use apt-get.
>
> Nowadays one gets to upgrade the entire distro with "apt-get upgrade".
> I occasionally do that with "-d" (don't) just to see what I am missing.
>
Yes. I've heard very good things about apt-get, and supposedly even
dselect has been improved. I use Linux primarily as a workstation, so I'm
waiting for Debian to bundle X 4.0.2 with their distro (and hopefully KDE
2.1) as the performance improvement is substantial.
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From: Joost Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:03:25 +0100
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Joost Gevers wrote:
> >
> > I created two new paritions using Windows NT4, before my last linux partition.
> > Restarted my
> > computer and nothing happened with my /etc/fstab. Linux didn't start correct,
> > because it could not find /dev/home on the right partition. This is the reason
> > I think it is not linux that does change the /etc/fstab.
> >
> What is /dev/home supposed to be?
Should be /home of course
Joost
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From: "nybblex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE dependencies...
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:02:32 +0200
hi,
I 've downloaded KDE2 (its screenshots looks nice!) recently but I found
troubles with its installation..
To be more specific, I downloaded 3 rpms that in the KDE Installation
Instructions file said that it was required (kdelibs, kdebase and
kdesupport)...
My problem is that when I tried to install it, I noticed that there are a
looooooot of dependencies that are missing from my computer...
So I started to find all that depedencies that are required to install KDE2
but there are too many and I could hardly find them all...
I was wondering if I can find all KDE's dependencies in one rpm or
something...
thanx in advance
Konstantinos
P.S Thanx a lot for your help in one of my previous questions.. That problem
is solved now..
:-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: suidperl problem
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:19:19 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 03 Feb 2001 18:06:40 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> #!/usr/bin/suidperl -w
>> $ENV{'PATH'}="/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin";
>>
>> print "content-type: text/html\n\n";
>>
>> $temp1=`cat /etc/shadow`;
>> $temp2=`/bin/ps`;
>>
>> `nohup "start_my_server_program"`
>>
>> print "$temp1,$temp2"
>> =========================================
>
>> Q1: Why when I run the perl with "perl 123.pl", it always show:
>> Insecure $ENV{BASH_ENV} while running setuid at ./123.pl line 7.
>
>See the entry for the error message "Insecure $ENV{%s} while running
>%s" in perldiag.
>
>> Q2: The problem in Q1 does not happy in using as CGI call from web.
>
>Probably because the web server didn't define BASH_ENV in the CGI
>script's environment.
>
>> But I can only got the output from "$temp1", no output from
>> "$temp2".
>> Why can't I use "ps" in this script.
Because 'ps' with no options only shows what is running on that terminal
and there is no terminal in CGI.
>> Q3. When I run my program with "nohup", it seems that it can't run at
>> all, why ?
>
>There's little point using nohup when the program is already running
>without a controlling terminal.
Look for deamonize in: perldoc perlipc Return something useful from the
CGI, then daemonize, cd, and run the program using:
system("/path/cmd &");
>BTW: don't use backticks in a void context. For reason see FAQ
>"What's wrong with using backticks in a void context?"
>
>It would probably be enlightening to take a look in the HTTP server's
>error log.
>
>> Please cc a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Please post only to newsgroups you read.
>
>Please use Mail-copies-to: header rarther than asking us to do it manually.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: display not capable of DPMS?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:21:37 GMT
Stamatis Stefanakos wrote:
>
> xset q returns:
>
> DPMS (Energy Star):
> Display is not capable of DPMS
>
> But I know that the display IS capable of DPMS - the screen goes
> off after some time - and I'm trying to deactivate this feature!
>
> Running a Compaq presario 1800 with XFree 4.0.2 and the gatos
> ati Xv enabled drivers for the Rage 128.
>
> Any help?
> S.
xset -dpms #turns it off
xset +dpms # turns it on
xset dpms 300 600 900
sets it to go into standby mode in 5min and suspend mode in 10min and
turn off in 15min. If you don't want it to turn off but still want
standby and suspend modes then you could use this.
xset dpms 300 600 0
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: display not capable of DPMS?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:26:35 GMT
David wrote:
>
> > Running a Compaq presario 1800 with XFree 4.0.2 and the gatos
> > ati Xv enabled drivers for the Rage 128.
Ooops I just noticed that your running Xfree 4 so dpms I don't think
works.
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From: Kevin Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Netscape 6 on Linux more stable than previous versions?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:30:10 -0000
What abot Opera for Linux. I have not used it ;it works well under Windows
Kevin Nolan
> > Unfortunately, there's a lot of mindless boosterism going on in the
> Linux
> > community, with little rigor applied to how good the products really
> are.
> >
> > Matt O.
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Berkeley "R" commands
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:35:48 -0800
On a Linux firewall machine is it better to delete the Berkeley "r" commands
completely or tighten permissions?
(ie: for rsh, rlogin, rcp).
Any comments?
Thanks,
Tom
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script from dhcpcd
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:55:13 -0800
I think you're right.
I changed the execution of my script to "/etc/rc.d/init.d/firewall >
/etc/rc.d/init.d/firewall.log"
Now everything works good. I guess the when the dhcp daemon runs the script
the output gets displayed on the screen but there is no command prompt to go
back to because it's a daemon running the script - ie: it's not a user
session.
Redirecting the output to a log makes it work ok.
Thanks,
Tom
Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:959efi$mo7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Edelbrok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have the dhcpcd client daemon running. When it starts it executes the
> > script /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.exe, however at the end of the script it
just
> > sits there doing nothing. I have to press ENTER to get the "#" prompt
back
> > again.
>
> > How can I get the script to finish?
>
> So what makes you think it's not finished? It probably is finishing,
> it's just printing its output in such a way that it doesn't return you to
a
> prompt.
>
> Try this: run two xterms. In one, run 'tty'. In the other, run
> 'echo SOMESTUFF > <whatever port you got from tty>' You'll see SOMESTUFF
> appear in the first xterm, but you won't get the prompt back - but it
doesn't
> mean that the 'echo' isn't finished, as you can see for yourself that it
is.
>
> If you want the prompt to reappear at the end, just put 'echo' by
> itself on the last line of the script; that will probably do it. If you
> really think the script isn't finishing, put 'echo __END OF SCRIPT__' at
> the end of the script, and see if it appears. If not, you may really have
> a problem with the script, but I doubt it.
>
> JDW
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: problems with GDM at boot. Any help?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:55:56 GMT
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:08:43 -0600, "kgb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-snip-
>When I go to start X, it will flicker the screen then dump me back to
>console. This is the tail end of what appears to be a normal series of
>messages from a starting X server. The tail end is where it goes wrong:
>:: normal series of messages, etc ::
>_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect
>Failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
>Fatal server error:
>Could not open default font 'fixed'
>And then it dies. Sometimes xinit will hang in the balance
>and wait until I kill it before I'm dumped back to a prompt.
This is a result of the font server not being started. Either start the
font server _before_ trying to start X, or edit the X configuration file to
comment out that font path.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
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From: George White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:01:40 -0400
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm lookin for a non-interactive process to do that
> finding it tough to get it
I have used a program called 'catdoc' to generate TeX files,
which can then be converted to PS, PDF, etc. How well it works
depends on the document -- certainly figures are a problem --
but if you don't have to handle arbitrary Word docs you might
be able to hack catdoc to do what you need.
--
George White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP problem
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:09:04 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Efflandt:
[Snip...]
|> I have noticed CLOSE_WAIT, but they usually go away after awhile. Are you
|> doing something network intensive or do you recognize the hosts and ports
|> and what they were used for. Maybe you are being scanned or attacked.
I'm not clear on the OP circumstances, but in the FWIW category...
It's been some time, but I observed similar symptoms. IIRC I was in and out
of PPP dialup from the same X login over several weeks. Over time I noticed
X acting more and sluggish until it became basically useless. Reboot! After
noticing literally dozens of these CLOSE_WAIT sessions one day I logged out
of X to do some console work and made a note to look into them later. But I
found them totally eliminated when I did log back into X. My conclusion was
the X login on my local side was keeping some (most?) of these links around
even after the remote host signaled termination. After a time it completely
overwhelmed the kernel and/or hardware, usually weeks if not more.
I suppose this is actually a result of X as a networked protocol, and it is
not without its redeeming features. For example, if my phoneline gets a hit
and the carrier drops, I can switch to a console, redial, and pick up again
in the same X session a minute or so later without a hitch.
I don't think a hit modem 'Doze session is as easy to resume... :)
I don't do 'Doze in my blissed ignorance; can't say... :)
[Snip...]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tools for migrating ext2 to ReiserFS
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:13:12 GMT
Wolfgang Hackl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I wonder if there are already tools for changing the fs-type on a
> running system (no space for backup and extra partitions).
If you consider your data so unimportant that you haven't arranged a
method to back it up, then the answer is _OBVIOUS_.
All you need to do is to pick partitions, and run:
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda2
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda3
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda4
That does the job of converting an ext2 partition into a reiserfs
partition just as readily as it does of converting a blank partition
into a reiserfs partition.
It won't preserve files, but if you're not bothering to do backups, it
is manifestly obvious that you don't value the files very much.
If you consider your data to be of any continuing value, then I
suggest you look into the orthogonal issue of arranging a backup
scheme. Once they're backed up,
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda2
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda3
# mkreiserfs /dev/hda4
mount the filesystems, and recover from the backups.
The amount of work required to do an in-place conversion from ext2 to
ReiserFS would be an entirely ridiculous lot of work, requiring
someone that is simultaneously expert in understanding the code
of_BOTH_ filesystems. And it may not even be _feasible_. If the two
FSes conflict in where inode tables are required to be, then it's just
not going to be nice to try to write such a tool.
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stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for
free*".' -- Linus Torvalds
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1?
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:56:36 +0100
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>> Installation is something you only do once. It should not be a
>> consideration.
>>
> Not when you're learning, as I am. I've botched a couple of systems (with
You learn faster if it hurts to make a mistake.
> X and such) so badly it was easier to reinstall than figure out where all
A couple??? It took me weeks of mistakes retrials and changes to get
slackware installed about 7 years ago. Turned out I had bad memory,
which was why the techies couldn't put windows on the machine and let
me do anything I liked. One day the memory bitsmashed and blew 100MB
of files out of /usr into lost and found. I spent the whole afternoon
recognizing files by bits of their content and putting them back where
they belonged. Many were in fragments. I never did get the last 20MB
back out of lost+found, but it didn't make any difference.
I certainly got familiar with the system.
> the problems were and fix them. I've also had to repartition drives
> several times, which means reinstalling. I recently lost my mouse, e.g.
No it does not! I do it all the time.
> and couldn't figure out why. Spent several hours futzing about to no
Losing your mouse can have exactly two causes: no driver, no device
file (or no mouse - but lets rule that out, shall we).
> Yes. I've heard very good things about apt-get, and supposedly even
> dselect has been improved. I use Linux primarily as a workstation, so I'm
> waiting for Debian to bundle X 4.0.2 with their distro (and hopefully KDE
> 2.1) as the performance improvement is substantial.
I _believe_ 4.02 is available for debian .. pointing your apt-get at
testing or unstable ought to do it, I think. If its not on debian official,
somebody will have packaged it, so you can just point apt-get there,
wherever there might be.
Or install it and repackage it yourself. It's not hard. You only need
the server really.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:02:44 +0100
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have no clue.
Could be anything, if you don't give us one either! What do your logs
show? What happens when you try it with lynx or netscape? Do you have a
http proxy set? Are you in DNS? Can you telnet to their port 80? What
does it say when you type "get /"? Is your identd running?
Etc. etc.
Peter
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Zip command
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:12:19 -0600
zip and gzip are 2 different programs and are not interchangeable.
Simon P wrote:
> man gzip
>
> Simon
>
> Anna Gori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > coult you tell me what packet I have to install on my linux 6.4 to get
> > the command zip?
> >
> > Or where can I find information about the find of the right packet for
> > the zip command?
> >
> > thanks
> > bye
> >
> >
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie Help!!!!
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:30:11 -0600
Gerry-
www.cheapbytes.com has the Sparc 6.2 version of RedHat for $4.99US.
Go to the RedHat Corner tab.
I'm sure you can also download it, but if speed is not a big deal its a good
choice. I've been happy with their CDs.
Gerry wrote:
> I have a SparcStation 10 on which I would like to install Linux. It is
> aclean system with no OS and a 1Gig HD.
> I've tried in vain here in Toronto to locate a copy of Linux for Sparc that
> I could use. These things are either nonexistent or unavailable here. I have
> Linux RedHat 5.4 (Manhatten) and Open Linux 2.3 (Caldera). Both of these
> appear to be i-3/486 packages.
>
> Can anyone please tell me how to get either one of my above editions loaded
> into a Sparc OR can they help me with locating one of these mysterious Linux
> for Sparc varieties?
>
> Gerry
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: default PATH for new user loaded from where?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:35:07 -0600
If you use useradd to create the user, use the -m option. The files in
/etc/skel will be installed in their home directory. Just make sure those
files look like you want them to. This is RedHat. Not sure about others.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After I assigned a new user (default is /bin/csh), the user login, I do
> an
> env | grep PATH
> PATH=/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin ....
>
> What file get loaded to set-up PATH for this new user?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Hoang
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar files
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:36:31 -0600
tar xvf gamename.tar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a game that has been downloaded as a .tar file. How do you expand
> it if your o/s is win95? Regards GF
>
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:17:24 -0500
Is my copy of Mozilla the only one that acts VERY slow? I mean like the
mail program is extremely slow to respond to scrolling and choosing a
message, etc.
Can someone give me a list of things to disable to make sure I'm not
running things I don't need to be?
I run my copy from the command line in a terminal window; does that have
anything to do with it??
Thanks!!
--Dan
Steve Ackman wrote:
> On 02 Feb 2001 03:43:00 GMT, James Barwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I've been using Netscape 6 since pre3 (earlier pre2 and pre1 too buggy). However,
>ALL
>> four versions (pre1--release) all used 380MB of RAM when started.
>>
>> Mozilla takes up about 100MB. It opens 16 java2 JVM's each taking approx 20MB.
>
>
> I don't bother with Java. Mozilla 0.7 never even hits 16 MB on
> my machine... that I've seen, anyway.
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:07:56 -0500
I have all the java crap unchecked (as far as I can tell) and it still
takes a lot of RAM. mozilla-bin is the only thing it runs (4 processes
of it) and it takes 100+MB.
Can someone help me?
I know gnus is great, but I'd like to have a graphical mail program...
Anyone have any suggestions???
Dan
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> On 02 Feb 2001 03:43:00 GMT, James Barwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I've been using Netscape 6 since pre3 (earlier pre2 and pre1 too buggy). However,
>ALL
> >four versions (pre1--release) all used 380MB of RAM when started.
> >
> >Mozilla takes up about 100MB. It opens 16 java2 JVM's each taking approx 20MB.
>
> I don't bother with Java. Mozilla 0.7 never even hits 16 MB on
> my machine... that I've seen, anyway.
>
>
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't find pre-built binaries of KDE2 for RedHat 6.2
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:53:28 GMT
Can't find pre-built binaries of KDE2 for RedHat 6.2
The ftp site has pre-built binaries for RedHat 7, only.
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