Linux-Misc Digest #24, Volume #28 Sun, 3 Jun 01 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need some help with permissions/umask (Erik Veenstra)
Re: /dev on vfat partition (Robert Heller)
Re: Modem options? (Robert Heller)
Re: HELP: Boot failure after IDE drive reconfiguration ("sdrumm3")
Re: Setiathome (Steve Pardee)
Free space ("gajo")
Re: Problems with video resolutions ("gajo")
Netscape plugins problem (Flash) (David Wake)
Re: Linux Video conferencing (Jan Panteltje)
Re: Need some help with permissions/umask (Michael Heiming)
Re: apache+php+mysql (phil hunt)
Re: IDE-DMA (David Efflandt)
Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter ([BeoWulf])
Re: Setiathome (David Efflandt)
Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time? (Larry Ebbitt)
Re: sound card (John Todd)
Top 10 posters for the 7 day period ending 2001-06-03 (Michael Heiming)
Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter ("Dave")
Re: IDE-DMA (Dances With Crows)
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:56:55 +0200
From: Erik Veenstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need some help with permissions/umask
Chris Gentle wrote:
>
> I ran into something a few days ago that I haven't been able to figure out
> yet. My home Linux PC has two users, my wife and myself. I wanted to
> mount a separate hard drive and use it as sort of a common area where each
> of us could read/write files (pictures, documents, etc.) I would like for
> files in our home account to be writable only by the user (umask 022) while
> files in the common area are writable by the group (umask 002). Can I do
> this without having to manually set the umask?
>
> When mounting a VFAT filesystem you can specify the umask for files created
> within that filesystem. It doesn't look like you can do this with ext2
> which is what I'm using.
>
> Any ideas? Thanks!
>
> --
> Chris
Setting the mask of the mountpoint, before you mount, will do.
gegroet,
Erik V.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: 3 Jun 2001 20:28:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Agent Smiths),
In a message on Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:34:49 GMT, wrote :
AS> Just tried to move linux from ext2 to vfat partition. I
AS> solved problems with vfat driver with initrd. But damn linux
AS> tries to open initial console (|initctl, i think) before
AS> executing init. But I cannot store /dev in vfat nor can I
AS> mount it from file (cos init wasn't executed yet). Now I
AS> don't see init's messages and don't know why I don't get
AS> login.
AS>
AS> I think there is some info on inet, but cannot find it.
AS> There is umsdos, but it uses its own long names instead of
AS> vfat's. Thanks in advance for any help.
AS>
Why do you want to put a Linux system on a vfat partition?
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem options?
Date: 3 Jun 2001 20:28:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert),
In a message on Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:38:09 GMT, wrote :
R> I'm running RH 7.0 on a laptop that dual boots with Win 98. Of
R> course, the laptop has the infamous winmodem (Actiontec 56k) that is
R> unsupported. As a side note, I'm about to have DSL installed.
R>
R> Any recommendations regarding this modem situation so that I can get
R> online with linux? Replacement suggestions?
Two options:
1) There exist 'real' PCMCIA modems. Get one of these.
2) Get a external RS232 AT command set modem and connect it to
your laptop's COM port.
When you get DSL, be sure to get an EtherNet DSL modem and a
supported PCMCIA Ethernet card (3Com's 3C589 works great).
R>
R> Thanks a bunch,
R>
R> Robert
R>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "sdrumm3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP: Boot failure after IDE drive reconfiguration
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 20:18:10 GMT
> "Tinkering" sounds like you were trying to get it to do something it did
> not want to do (maybe for good reason).
Perish the thought (grin). No, actually, when I re-powered the system the
first time, it was evident the BIOS had re-designated the 19.5GB drive from
Drive 2 to Drive 1, resulting in the phantom drive phenomenon you mentioned.
Selecting Linux from System Commander's boot menu failed to boot the OS. I
removed and then re-installed system commander and it auto-detected
(correctly) the Linux drive and boot partition; however, the partition
failed to boot.
> > 1. Restore the original drive configuration, get Linux back up, and
make
> > some rescue disks so I can go back in later.
>
> Probably a good idea, so even if you find you have to move it down to hdb,
> you can go in and fix lilo.conf and fstab to point to the proper drive.
I've accessed the ext2 partitions from the HAL 91 boot floppy. They
identify and mount as drive hdc w/o problem. I'll be backing up /etc later
today. The ONLY anomaly I saw in the HAL 91 boot sequence was during the
partition check of drive hdc. The line for hdc included something like
[PART TBL xxx/yyy/zzz] where x, y, and z were numbers I didn't right down,
but could get later.
As I understand it, each drive maintains it's own partition table, right?
If so, the table shouldn't be affected by the removal or addition of another
IDE device.
> Can you access the CD-burner or DVD drive in current configuration?
Yep, as a matter of fact, both work as designed....under Windows.
I still haven't determine the specific problem, but my plan is to try a LILO
re-install off the RedHat CD after backing up the pertinent Linux config
files. I'm not sure if this will work, as /etc/lilo.conf seems correct
as-is. Any other suggestions?
Scott Drumm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Pardee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setiathome
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:27:14 +0800
You might want to read the README, HOW-TO, INSTALLATION file or something like
that in the source directory. There should be some instructions in there
somewhere telling you how make the application. Typically it goes something
like type ./configure then type make then type make all or something like that.
-Steve Pardee
Thomas Fink wrote:
> Newbie needs help!
> I need help installing Setiathome using Redhat 7.1 This is what I've done.
> cp setiathome-3.03.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar to usr/local/src. Next
> I changed to root and typed, tar xvf filename.tar. Then, using the comand
> line I typed xsetiathome and nothing happens.
> I would appreciate any assistance.
>
> Thank you,
> Tom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Free space
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:36:18 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OK, the modprobe line didn't work, but with lsmod I got binfmt_aout 3728 0 and
nothing more.
But nevermind, I deleted the game cause I needed free space. Anyone can tell me what
files are
unnecessary, like the ones in tmp, so that I could delete them and free up some space?
"fred smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > ZMAGIC is an ancient
binary format
from Linux's pre-ELF days. They can
> still be used IF you have the ancient libraries on your system and IF
> you've got kernel support (direct or via module) for it.
>
> See if the command:
>
> modprobe binfmt_aout
>
> works (i.e., if it returns with no diagnostic). If so, you should be
> able to do:
>
> lsmod
>
> and get results something like:
>
> Module Size Used by
> ===> binfmt_aout 4196 0
> ide-scsi 7272 0
> lockd 31496 1 (autoclean)
> sunrpc 53028 1 (autoclean) [lockd]
> 3c509 5932 1 (autoclean)
> nls_cp437 3876 4 (autoclean)
> vfat 9276 2 (autoclean)
> fat 30400 2 (autoclean) [vfat]
> es1371 27264 0
> soundcore 2628 4 [es1371]
>
> And if that works, try running the program again. If that works, well
> now you know how to make it work. if not, then there's some additional
> system service you are missing (possibly the ancient libraries needed
> for the ancient binary).
>
> if all this doesn't make it work, you may find it helpful to try to
> recompile the program (assuming you can get the source). It shold come
> with some form of minimal docs on how to do that, commonly a file named
> "INSTALL", or "README", or some such.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> --
> ---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
> I can do all things through Christ
> who strengthens me.
> ------------------------------ Philippians 4:13 -------------------------------
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with video resolutions
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:36:20 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Woohoo! I did it! I installed Adobe Acrobat.. :)
The problem now is that it requires 256 or more colors, and I (probably) have 16
colors. I have
tried to set this with xconf but after screwing up several times (the mouse cursors
was as large as
the whole screen) I gave up. I have a noname monitor and card, but anyway in Windows I
could get 24
bit from it. So anyone can tell me an efficient way of setting my card for at least
800x600 and 256
colors?
Csaba
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From: David Wake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape plugins problem (Flash)
Date: 03 Jun 2001 13:39:22 -0700
I am using Netscape Communicator 4.75 with RedHat Linux 7.0. When I
type about:plugins, I get the message "No plug-ins are installed",
even though I have ShockwaveFlash.class and libflashplayer.so in my
usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory, readable by all users.
Thanks for any help.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux Video conferencing
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 20:41:16 GMT
On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Jun 2001 14:37:53 GMT) it happened Subba Rao
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<5T6S6.14988$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>I am looking for some information for setting up Video conferencing using my
>Linux system. What devices are required for such setup? I do have USB ports
>available. I am confused about WebCams and NetCams. Is there a difference
>between these devices? Will this be streaming video? What software is
>available to do the conferencing?
>
>Any pointers and information is appreciated.
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Subba Rao
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I wrote mcam ( http://www.panteltje.demon.nl/mcam/ )
It is sort of picture and text only multicast...
But it is fun, only for Creative Labs webcam II par port version.
But the code is GPL, and since this is development.apps (I removed some of
the rest that I see no relation to), there may things you can use (as a
developer hehe).
Regards
Jan
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:56:45 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need some help with permissions/umask
Erik Veenstra wrote:
>
> Chris Gentle wrote:
> >
> > I ran into something a few days ago that I haven't been able to figure out
> > yet. My home Linux PC has two users, my wife and myself. I wanted to
> > mount a separate hard drive and use it as sort of a common area where each
> > of us could read/write files (pictures, documents, etc.) I would like for
> > files in our home account to be writable only by the user (umask 022) while
> > files in the common area are writable by the group (umask 002). Can I do
> > this without having to manually set the umask?
> >
> > When mounting a VFAT filesystem you can specify the umask for files created
> > within that filesystem. It doesn't look like you can do this with ext2
> > which is what I'm using.
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Chris
>
> Setting the mask of the mountpoint, before you mount, will do.
Err.? The only reason you can set an umask with vfat is, that there are
no permissions/UID/GID on vfat.
man mount
If you only have two users on your system, what's the problem
with setting the umask in the users profile or in /etc/profile,
(leaving roots umask) to your needs?
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Subject: Re: apache+php+mysql
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:31:12 +0100
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:19:18 +0200, Sebastian Volland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've installed redhat version 7.1 with preconfigured Apache+php
>which is working fine.
>Now I downloaded and installed mysql because I want to use it with php, but
>I saw that php is compiled with the flag --without-mysql.
>How can I activate mysql-functionality without recompiling all that?
I suspect you probably shouldn't try to. because if you do, and things go
wrong (which they always do on computers from time to time) you won't know
if it is the --without-mysql compilation causing it.
>If I have to recompile, whats the best way to do it?
Reading the PHP documentation is probably a good start.
--
## Philip Hunt ##
## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: IDE-DMA
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001, Alejandro Alvarez Melcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello;
> I have read about the utility IDE-DMA. It sais that it can
> enhance the performance of IDE devices but that it can
> corrupt the data. Has anyone more information about this
> utility and how can it be used safely?. Thanks.
See 'man hdparm'. The newer Linux distros can be set to optimize drive
performance, or newer kernels can be compiled to use DMA automatically if
available. hdparm can still be used to check the settings or fine tune
them.
On an older computer when I use hdparm to put inactive drives to sleep
after a timeout, the system thinks the response is to slow when waking up
and resets the drive (cancelling the DMA). On a newer computer where the
computer BIOS puts inactive drives to sleep and wakes them up, I don't
have that problem.
However, I disabled standby in CMOS setup because I don't want the whole
computer going to sleep.
--
David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: [BeoWulf] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:08:15 GMT
As I glanced into the mist, I noticed the sound of a whispering voice. I=
t=20
appeared to be originating from the whereabouts of Missy, and the voice=20
seemed to be saying :
> I think it's either a 386 or 486, and it has a SCSI hard drive. I'm
> thinking of upgrading it to a 512MB drive just b/c it gives me a little
> more room plus it only costs $15 anyways...I've been given plenty of
> distros to look at....Several people have mentioned Debian to me, but I=
'm
> a little leery of trying b/c I'm still sort of a newbie to Linux. What
> exactly do you need to know to use Debian (if that isn't too big of a
> question lol)? Thanks for all the help!
=20
=20
If I were you, I'd stay away from Debian... at least until your GNU/Linux=
=20
skills have somewhat developed. It's not quite the most userfriendly=20
distribution out there... The quality on the other hand seems to be pret=
ty=20
good though.
I've been playing around with many OSes over the years (except for=20
Win95/98/Me), and I did have some UNIX experience before I first installe=
d=20
Mandrake (release 6.0 at the time). All together, I've been using nothin=
g=20
but GNU/Linux on my own machine for over a year and a half now, and even =
I=20
prefer to stick to Mandrake...
However, Mandrake might not do it for you since the machine does not have=
a=20
Pentium compatible CPU... However, there is a 386-compiled Mandrake dist=
ro=20
out there on the mirrors somewhere...
Still, if you want my advice, I'd go for what the other posters have=20
suggested, or else RedHat or SuSE or something of the likes. Slackware=20
might be interesting as well...
Hope this info helps you out. ;-)
--=20
With sincere regards,
[BeoWulf].
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Setiathome
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:51:38 GMT, Thomas Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Newbie needs help!
> I need help installing Setiathome using Redhat 7.1 This is what I've done.
> cp setiathome-3.03.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar to usr/local/src. Next
> I changed to root and typed, tar xvf filename.tar. Then, using the comand
> line I typed xsetiathome and nothing happens.
> I would appreciate any assistance.
You should really install it as a user in the user's home directory. It
should not, and does not need to be run as root. If the user installs it,
then everything should have proper permissions. If root installs it, then
a user cannot run it unless you chown everything to that user.
The README files are there for a reason. The only thing that might not be
clear to a Linux newbie is that you have to be in the directory with
setiathome or xsetiathome to run them, the current directory (.) may not
be in your path and the > signifies a prompt. So you would actually run:
./setiathome -graphics &
./xsetiathome
or './setiathome -graphics -nice 19 &' would run it with less priority so
it would not slow you up.
--
David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ebbitt)
Subject: Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Jun 2001 21:52:46 GMT
.
>
> Or you live in the state of California . . . .
>
I'm typing this during an ugly thunderstorm, with poer trips every five
minutes. My little UPS is holding up the side with no problem. It might
be too costly to get a UPS to last through an eco-freak blackout, but a
realtively inexpensive one will give you 15-20 minutes and then shut the
system down properly. It's an investment that has been good for my sleep.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: sound card
Date: 3 Jun 2001 20:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do " dmesg | less " and look for a line that
suggests sound card; it may be on the motherboard.
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:30:07 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an used gateway2000 and the sound does not work? How would I start
>to look for a sound card?
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
--
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6.0
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:02:56 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Top 10 posters for the 7 day period ending 2001-06-03
Top 10 posters for the 7 day period ending 2001-06-03.
(comp.os.linux.misc)
posts kbytes name address
1 28 44.6 Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 20 38.6 SammyTheSnake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3 16 27.8 Michael Heiming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4 14 21.7 Dave Uhring [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5 13 23.8 Peet Grobler peetgr at absa.co.za
6 13 22.0 gajo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7 12 40.5 Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8 12 19.3 Dave Uhring [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9 11 23.6 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10 11 23.4 Dances With Crows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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150 285.4 Total for top 10
Totals for the newsgroup:
484 posters
1004 articles
2079.0 kbytes
The top 10 accounted for:
2.1% of the posters
14.9% of the articles
13.7% of the bytes
Averages:
2.1 articles / poster
2.1 kbytes / article
4.3 kbytes / poster
2 people posted for the first time this period.
They went on to post 2 articles altogether
The new posters accounted for:
0.4% of the posters
0.2% of the articles
0.1% of the bytes
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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:02:03 +1000
"Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:QMgS6.13626$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a PS/2 56 or 57 made in 1992 with OS/2 currently on it. I know
> nothing about OS/2, nor really want it. I got this puter to put Linux on
and
> tinker with it without destroying my parents puter. lol Does anyone have
> suggestions of what distro to put on it? It has a 216MB hard drive and 8MB
> of RAM, a floppy drive, and a 'cd-rom reader with a caddy' that I've yet
to
> install. Thanks!
I've got a number of Linux boxen - hardware on the lowest spec is a 486DX2
66 with 16MB RAM and 500MB HDD. From there it goes on up to PII 400's.
I've had no real trouble installing RedHat 7.0 on any of the boxes (6 in
total) although RH7.1 doesn't seem to like the 486 and probably won't like
the P75 either.
As to what you can do with it once you've built it - depends on your need.
Using it as a firewall is a good start - unless your network is large and
busy pretty much anything you can install Linux on will cope as a firewall
(my current firewall is a Compaq Deskpro P75). Depending on your needs you
can use it as a single function box (name server, web server, mail server,
whatever - although hard drive space may prevent it's use as either mail or
web server).
A fair bit of that depends on your needs I guess.
CYA, Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: IDE-DMA
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03 Jun 2001 22:07:44 GMT
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:33:57 GMT, Alejandro Alvarez Melcon staggered
into the Black Sun and said:
>I have read about the utility IDE-DMA. It sais that it can enhance the
>performance of IDE devices but that it can corrupt the data. Has anyone
>more information about this utility and how can it be used safely?.
The utility is called "hdparm". There are a few motherboard chipsets,
most notably the VIA686, that can create data corruption problems when
DMA is turned on. The VIA problem is triggered by moving large chunks
of data from one IDE controller to the other (/dev/hda to /dev/hdc, for
instance) although a BIOS update combined with using the latest kernel
should minimize the chances of that happening.
The "safe" thing to do with hdparm is to enable multi-sector reads,
unmasking interrupts, and 32-bit mode. That's "hdparm -c1 -u1 -m16
/dev/hdX". The warnings in hdparm's man page are (mostly) overkill.
Try enabling DMA and seeing what you get.
--
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best
http://www.brainbench.com / friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/ to read. ==Groucho Marx
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