Linux-Misc Digest #62, Volume #27                 Thu, 8 Feb 01 20:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: remote distribution (rdist) or a better tool? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  LyX and missing layouts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  very basic basic newbie question ("Jack Altradmon")
  Where does $PATH come from? (John Oliver)
  Re: Problem with a shared library. (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
  IS-22 Canon scanning head for Linux? ("Darren Welson")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? -- abs_path/realpath shell script 
(Oleg Krivosheev)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  *U r g e n t* ("Nitin Sharma")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
  Re: Intro. To Linux at U-Online ("Dave")
  Compiling 2.4.1 kernel, no aic7xxx module found (Kerry Cox)
  Re: VIA AC97 sound trouble (Peter Petersen)
  Trouble with via ac97 sound (Peter Petersen)
  Re: source code help (Robert Heller)
  Re: backspace w/ XFCE (Anita Lewis)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote distribution (rdist) or a better tool?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:55:03 +0100

milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <95tnsu$a0a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have an increasing number of Redhat systems to maintain.
>> Is there a tool that allows to issue commands on a number of computers
>> simultaneously, e.g. doing a crontab -e on all machines
>> in a group without having to login into every machine and doing
>> the commands by hand?
>>
>> --
>> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>

> I haven't used it myself yet (not far enough along) but cfengine may be
> right up your alley.

I maintain a system calle "doit" that does just that. It's been 
holding up the department for years.  If nagged I'll release
the system on freshmeat, or just give it to you to try. The
problem is the setup ... one has to condition both servers and
clients.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LyX and missing layouts
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:14:07 +0000

In the /usr/share/lyx/layouts directory there's a whole bunch of layouts
that don't show in the layouts->document->class list in LyX. I want to use
the Broadway and Hollywood classes (and check out some of the others), but
why don't they work? 
The documentation says some of these need to be installed from the tex
directory, but how do I do that?
Can someone outline a solution or point to where I can find out how to
install them?

Thanks,
frank

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From: "Jack Altradmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: very basic basic newbie question
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:22:22 GMT

Hi, sorry to bug everyone with such a simple question...   are there any key
shortcuts in GNOME to help me navigate if the mouse doesn't respond..?

I'm brand new to Linux..   I'm trying to install RedHat 7 and having major
problems with X configuration.

1st time I got it working but the desktop was about 4x larger than the
screen..  tried different resolution but then desktop only took up half the
screen. I guess this is because I chose a monitor which was close to mine
(but not exact). I have a CTX 1569S and chose CTX 1565. (Video card is an
ATI 3d Xpression+). I have now found what I think are the H & V sync rates
and reconfigured it as custom but now the mouse does not work!!  It's a dual
boot config and the mouse still works in Win 95 so it ain't a hardware
fault. The GNOME desktop comes up correctly proportioned in the screen but
several of the apps open as well (such as help browser and what looks like a
file browser). The panel is autohide and I cannot get it to appear. I can't
close any of these windows down because Alt doesn't seem to activate the
menu items...

What is happening.....?



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From: John Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where does $PATH come from?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:16:55 -0800

On my Red Hat and Mandrake systems, I always get long, redundant PATH
variables.  For example:

/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games

Now, I'm aware of /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/ and the
~/.bash* directories.  Something else is setting
/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games before I ever
log in.  Then, after I log in,
/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games is being appended. 
PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin is in my .bash_profile.

Where and what is setting the path before and after my .bashrc?

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with a shared library.
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:25:53 -0500

Michael Heiming wrote:
> 
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> 
> > When I try to download a .tsv file with Netscape (that will be imported
> > by Applixware), I get the following message from Netscape:
> >
> > Gtk WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module-path:
> > libmetal.so
> >
> > This library definately exists:
> >
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# ls -l /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        40482 Aug  1  2000
> > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]# file /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so
> > /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libmetal.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object,
> > Intel 80386, version 1, not stripped
> > valinux:root[/usr/lib]#
> >
> > I have recently run depmod -a, but that does not seem to help, because
> > depmod does not look in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines unless I add the
> > line
> >
> > path=/usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines to /etc/conf.modules. If I do that, it
> > gets all bent out of shape because some of the other files in that
> > directory are not .so files. I tried putting a symbolic link to the
> > required module in /usr/lib and running depmod again. That does not hurt
> > anything, as far as I can tell, but it does not solve the problem.
> >
> > What next?
> >

> Hello,
> 
> did you lookup /etc/ld.so.conf, is the path to your shared object libary
> set?
> 
> Set it and run ldconfig -v
> 
I had forgotten about ld.so.conf. I put the path in there, ran ldconfig
-v and the output from there on the screen was correct, as far as I can
tell (in particular, the libmetal.so was in there). But when I examined
/lib/modules/2.2.14-VA.2.1smp/modules.dep (which was updated), neither
the directory /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines nor anything in that directory
appeared. Rerunning depmod -a did not help either (it rebuilt
modules.dep, but the libraries in question do not appear).

-- 
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 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:20pm up 11 days, 2:48, 3 users, load average: 1.41, 1.92, 2.02

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:14:31 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Geoffrey Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> 
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > There are only 3 positions to take on a proposition
>> 
>> On a 1st order logical proposition, you mean. What you say next is not
>> so.
>> 
>> > 1) Belief that the proposition is true.
>> > 2) "I don't know"
>> > 3) Belief that the proposition is not true.
>> 
>> Uh, you can believe that you don't know, or you can believe that you
>> believe that you believe that if you knew, then you would know, and so
>> on.

> Which is consistent with Aaron's statement of the three options.

No it isn't. "Believing that if you believed it then you would know it"
is not covered by any of the above (to randomly mix up some operators
and serve them to you).

> Were you trying to argue that there's only room for a certain
> number of theorems?

No. To be exact, I was pointing out that the free algebra of terms
involving belief and knowledge and propositional symbols has
considerably more schemas than three within it. If you want to
cut down the number you have to propose some semantics.
By the looks of it, Bp \/ ~Kp \/ B~p  is one of his axioms,
but I don't see that forcing a whole lot of things on its own,
so there are a whole pile of non-equal terms still hanging around.
Convince me that "Believing that if you believed it then you would
know it" has one of the three values suggested for a start!

>> One can claim anything at all.

> That's not quite true.  You cannot claim what you cannot express.

I just did :-). (but to be exact, I meant that I can claim anything that I
can express).

>> That you "believe" something to be false ("believes not") is
>> not the same thing as not believing it to be true ("not believes").

> Aaron claimed the same thing, so why are you beating the same dead
> horse?

Aaron? Which quote was Aaron's? If you mean that set of three
proposed truth values, it isn't the same at all.

Look ..  my statement above is that ~Bp is not always the same as B~p.
I.e.  either ~Bp and B~p or Bp and ~B~p can hold sometimes.  His
statement is that either Bp or B~p or ~Kp always holds.  I think he also
meant that those are exclusive (though they aren't) I.e.  that Bp and
~B~p at the same time are impossible.  By swapping p for ~p, you see
that he also thinks that B~p and ~Bp at the same time is impossible.  So
he thinks that what I think can sometimes hold, never can hold.

> -- 
> Best wishes!

Peter

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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: IS-22 Canon scanning head for Linux?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:03:57 -0800

I have a Canon printer, BJC 4300 that has a scanning head (IS-22), and
connects via parallel port.  How do I use this with Linux?  Is it possible
to get this to work, or is there a module to add?



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:25:09 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Geoffrey Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> You seem to be unaware of the logic of modalities like belief, proof,
>> necessity, obligation, and so on.

> I for one am well aware of the existence, intent, and defects of modal
> logics.
> They are unnecessary.  It suffices to introduce modal terms as regular
> items
> of nonmodal mathematics, for example as elements or functions (as
> convenient)
> in set theory.

Eh? Are you talking about nonstandard models? I.e where one
views truth values as functions, and modal operators as functionals?
Probably.

Yes one can model nonstandard logics within classical set theory, just
as one can model  classical set theory within topoi or category
theory. That's good to know. It shows there's nothing wrong with
either.

>> Basically the logical operators "belief" and "not" do not commute, OK?

> On that we agree.

> The fact remains that atheists believe in the nonexistence of God.

I'm not sure. I presume I'm either atheist or agnostic but I don't know
which.  I don't think anyone can describe god in any way that I can be
clear enough about to formulate an opinion on. Yes, I am sure there is
no old man with a snowy beard looking after the universe, but
presumably nobody would describe that as God nowadays. And every
definition that I might propose (and could believe to be impossible)
would be dismissed by a believer.

Yes, I have argued with the bendictines ... and very very wise
and scholarly are they.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:28:24 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please give me one example of a subject that I deny a statement,
> but don't have any belief associated with it.

I deny that believing implies knowing.


Peter

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From: Oleg Krivosheev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? -- abs_path/realpath shell 
script
Date: 08 Feb 2001 17:45:17 -0600

"Brian Dellert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In article <9529p4$he9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes - don't use sed. I didn't test this case. The problem is that the
> > first and second '/../' overlap, and sed can't back up in the replaced
> > string. Since I'm much more skilled in awk than perl, I'd change to
> 
> [contents deleted]
> 
> Thanks for the update. I've thrown some more handling of special cases
> into your code and moved some of the ksh logic to awk so the script works
> with the Bourne shell. FWIW, I've included my modifications below.
> 

Brian, are you aware there might be
several abs path for the

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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 8 Feb 2001 23:56:38 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : itself.

: Nothing in the statement says that.  What you are describing would
: be best covered by the statement "Failure to come to decision X
: is itself decision Y."  Simply saying "failure to come to a
: decision" means NO decisions are being made, at any meta-level.
: If somewhere at some level a decision is being made, the you are
: not "failing to come to a decision".  (The definate article 'a'

Oops.  I meant "INdefinate article 'a'".


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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 00:02:15 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: How can you know, think, affirm or deny anything if you don't 
: believe anything?

: "The Earth is positivly, absolutly not flat", implies that I have some 
: beliefs concerning the shape of the Earth.


: Please give me one example of a subject that I deny a statement,
: but don't have any belief associated with it.

You owe me $1000.  Pay up.  If you deny this, is that a new
belief on your part that you didn't have before you read this
post?

Do I have the power create new beliefs in your mind by simply
stating incredulous things in your presence?


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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 00:04:44 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stefan Ohlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: I know the atheists have a theory that man will develop to a super-man that
: can travel back in time and will create it all. That's the simple version
: anyway. I know, sounds weird. :)

Are you being deliberately silly?


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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 00:12:00 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Cool,

: I'm finally a Martian! All I have to do is get lots of
: people to agree that they (and I) are too.

Yes.  Absolutely.  And at that point, "Martian" would no
longer mean "from the planet Mars".  Definitions are arbitrary.
That's how language works.  The only trick is to avoid the
false equivocation fallacies that would occur if you switched
definitions in the middle of a discussion.  Pick one and keep
using it consistantly within a context.

: What the majority of Martians say the definition is, it is.


: Gotta go, I'll be in the street handing out little "Earn $1... You and I
: are Martians, Right?" cards.

: No arguments... you ain't a Martian.

Assuming you can find some way to differentiate the members of your
group from everyone else, go for it.  Perhaps you all carry little
cards, and then "Martian" would mean "guy who carries one of these
cards."



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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:54:46 -0800
Subject: *U r g e n t*
From: "Nitin Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,uk.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc

I do not have access to Internet Newsgroups, would you please send your
responses by e-mail.

Here's my query:
Upon recompiling the Linux Operating system (say, TurboLinux/RedHat)
to produce RPMs (or regular non-RPM binaries), how do I create an installable
CD/disk containing that build? An urgent reponse would be appreciated.
Thank you.

-- 
N. Sharma
(718) 404-3901 x5689

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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 00:26:58 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Geoffrey Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> 
:>         No, atheism is lack of belief.

: Scan the word.  Atheism means "no God ism" (whatever "ism" is).

Wrong.  It means "without god ism" or "not god ism".

: Lack of belief would have a word of its own that i might be able
: to cite if i knew the Greek for "belief".

: My Dad is an agnostic, because, as he explains, he doesn't know.
: Agnostic = "having no knowledge".

And whether you have knowlege is a DIFFERENT question from whether
you have belief, so agnositicism is totally orthogonal to the
theism/atheism issue.  It gets confusing because many agnostics
happen to also be fence-sitters between theism and atheism (because
they have no knowlege, they aren't sure, they sort of half believe
and half don't believe in god, not really sure if they should or
not, and so people get fooled into thinking that that's all there is to
anosticism - that it's just the middle ground between theism and
atheism.  But it's not.  I am BOTH an agnostic AND an atheist, and
I'm not alone in saying that.  My position is that since I have no
knowlege, I'll side with what I see as the only sensible default,
and that's atheism, NOT the halfway sorta-maybe-not-sure-if-I-should-
-believe-or-not position that a lot of other agnostics seem to have.
Why do I see atheism as the sensible default?  Because of this: 
What evidence would I expect to find if god existed?  I don't know,
depends on the god I guess.  What evidence would I expect to find if
god didn't exist?  Answer: None.  So in other words, if god didn't
exist, there'd be absolutely no way to sway one's opinion in that
direction - God not existing would result in an utter lack of
any evidence whatsoever.  So when I find a lack of any evidence in
the real world, while this doesn't prove god doesn't exist, it
certainly makes it a reasonable starting *hypothesis* until more
evidence shows up.  In no way does this count as being a "belief".


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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,linux.dev.newbie,linux.news.groups,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Intro. To Linux at U-Online
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:50:37 GMT

I beleive you are right! =)
"U-Online" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CyCg6.5350$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Actually, I believe I know what happened. The site you visited was
> www.u-online.COM or site is at www.u-online.NET. The .COM site is, indeed,
> non-English, but it isn't us.
>  - U-Online Staff
>
> U-Online <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:OsCg6.5348$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could you please explain what you mean by that. Are you refering to
> > U-Online? If so, the site is English.
> >
> > - U-Online Staff
> >
> >
> > David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > You failed to metnion the site is written in German, or something very
> > > similiar.
> >
> >
>
>
>



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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling 2.4.1 kernel, no aic7xxx module found
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:52:25 -0700

Howdy all. I just compiled the 2.4.1 kernel on my test box. No problems.
I had installed Red Hat 7.1 beta 3 and it took to it like a duck to
water.
However, I wanted to install the 2.4.1 kenrel on my production machine
that has a SCSI card, i.e. an Adaptec card, and when I went to do a
"/sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.1.img 2.4.1" I got an error message
saying the following:

[root@quasi 2.4.1]# /sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.1.img 2.4.1
No module aic7xxx found for kernel 2.4.1 

Any ideas. I cannot do a "make install" now since it cannot find the
image. Is the 2.4.1 kernel not needing this image anymore?
Thanks.
Kerry

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|  System Administrator KSL    __      (801) 575-7771       |
|      http://www.ksl.com     |  |      ICQ#37681165        |
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From: Peter Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA AC97 sound trouble
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 01:53:40 +0100

On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:00:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod
Smith) wrote:

>You've multi-posted this to at least two newsgroups. In the future,
>please post to as few newsgroups as possible, and when you must post to
>more than one group, cross-post it, don't multi-post it. (Multi-posting
>is posting it separately to each group. Cross-posting is listing the
>several groups on one Newsgroups: line, separated by commas.
>Cross-posting reduces wasted bandwidth and lets people in all groups see
>the replies, thus reducing wasted time composing redundant replies.)

Do I need any education by you??
It's a ridiculous reaction from your side, considering that I posted to
no more than TWO groups and considering that I am far from being a
newbie, but an oldtimer in usenet! tsk

By the way, I expected some good answer to my question, not such a
worthless comment, so you better shut up!

It's my decision to post a second article if I (afterwards, after my
first posting) get the impression it might be better to use some
additional group, but what the fuck, I do not need to justify here.

By the way, spare me with wasting bandwidth by posting and mailing the
same text.

Have a nice day

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From: Peter Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with via ac97 sound
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 01:55:50 +0100

Once again, because someone made the former thread kind of useless...


Hello!

Using Suse 6.4, Kernel 2.2.14 with a VIA AC97 soundchip I have some
problem with sound under linux.

The kernel drivers don't support the chip, so I had to find out that
ALSA might be helpful (and OSS, which for various reasons proves to be
an even inferior solution for me).

With ALSA I can listen to wav, au, mp3, cd audio, but not to midi,
which, however, is not the real problem I am talking about (there is a
program called "timidity" which gives me midi sound by on-the-fly
converting midi to wav without touching the midi files, so that is
o.k.).

Here is - finally - my problem:
I can't get sound to work with the quake games series (especially quake
and quakeworld), and ALSA even mentions that quake has to segfault
because there is a problem with "mmap" (whatever that means). So without
sound I am unable and unwilling to play these games.

Is there any realistic alternative to get quake sound under linux with a
VIA AC97 (and without upgrading the kernel to 2.3.x or 2.4, where I
found some experimental stuff with www.google.com)?
Someone of you all with VIA AC97 got a good solution? Or is this
hopeless?


Thanks
Peter

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source code help
Date: 8 Feb 2001 18:53:36 -0600

  entropy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:46:25 GMT, wrote :

e> hello,
e> 
e> i'm trying to get the source code for the 'who' command but am having
e> no luck finding it. is it in the kernel or am i missing something?

On my RedHat 5.2 system:

sauron.deepsoft.com% rpm -qf /usr/bin/who
sh-utils-1.16-14

and on a RedHat 6.2 box:

smaug.deepsoft.com% rpm -qf /usr/bin/who
sh-utils-2.0-1

Look for sh-utils-*-.src.rpm -- that is where who is.  Also:

smaug.deepsoft.com% rpm -ql sh-utils
/bin/basename
/bin/date
/bin/echo
/bin/false
/bin/nice
/bin/pwd
/bin/sleep
/bin/stty
/bin/su
/bin/true
/bin/uname
/etc/pam.d/su
/usr/bin/[
/usr/bin/dirname
/usr/bin/env
/usr/bin/expr
/usr/bin/factor
/usr/bin/groups
/usr/bin/hostid
/usr/bin/id
/usr/bin/logname
/usr/bin/nohup
/usr/bin/pathchk
/usr/bin/pinky
/usr/bin/printenv
/usr/bin/printf
/usr/bin/seq
/usr/bin/tee
/usr/bin/test
/usr/bin/tty
/usr/bin/users
/usr/bin/who
/usr/bin/whoami
/usr/bin/yes
/usr/sbin/chroot

(with documentation and man pages).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: backspace w/ XFCE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 01:04:05 GMT

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:58:06 -0500, John D Prokopek wrote:
>I am hoping someone can help me out. I recently installed xcfe on my
>RH6.2 box and now I 
>am unable to get backspace to delete the previous character in an xterm.
>I tried modifying the
>the XTerm file in the app-defaults but this didn't seem to have any
>effect.
>I also tried 
>xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
>and that didn't work.
>
>If someone would help me out I would be most appreciative. 
>
>thanks
>

That is the right command.  Did you put it in .xinitrc and then do startx?

Anita

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