Linux-Misc Digest #122, Volume #27 Thu, 15 Feb 01 23:13:01 EST
Contents:
xsane and Segmentation fault (Robert Jones)
Tx Ring full (John Oliver)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: Can I use my ATA/100 hard drive with my ATA/66 controller motherboa (CHOPIN
CUSACHS)
Re: xsane and Segmentation fault (Drew Roedersheimer)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
printer under linux
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Bloody Viking)
problem of compiling apache 1.3.14/17 with mod_auth_mysql ("Wong Ching Kuen
Frederick")
Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network
Re: need help with LAN connection setup (Brett)
Re: Cannot umount, ZIP questions ("Charles Sullivan")
FreeBSD out-serve Linux ? (Arctic Storm)
Re: printer under linux (Hugh Lawson)
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xsane and Segmentation fault
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:21:50 -0600
I remember reading about this problem in *a* newsgroup or *a* web page
several months ago. I didn't pay a lot of attention at the time because
it was before I had a scanner. Can someone give me a clue?
RH6.0, 2.2.16 kernel, xsane-0.47-2
TIA
--
Future historians will be able to study at the Jimmy
Carter Library, the Gerald Ford Library, the Ronald Reagan Library,
and the Bill Clinton Adult Bookstore. --George Carlin
7:09pm up 5 days, 3:01, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00
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From: John Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tx Ring full
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:44:16 -0800
After leaving my laptop (Compaq Armada M300) running Mandrake 7.2 on for
a few days, and then performing a large file transfer, my Ethernet card
(a 3C575 PCMCIA) stops working and /var/log/messages starts getting
these every 5 seconds:
Feb 11 20:59:35 icarus kernel: diagnostics: net 0ce0 media 8800 dma
000000a0.
Feb 11 20:59:35 icarus kernel: eth0: Tx Ring full, refusing to send
buffer.
Feb 11 20:59:40 icarus kernel: eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status 00
status e000.
So far, the only way I've found to get past this is a reboot. And the
last time this happened, after rebooting, it only worked for a couple of
minutes. I used it under Windows for a little while, then brought it
home on Friday and Linux worked just fine.
I'm guessing this is some sort of issue with either the PCMCIA drivers
or the driver for this specific card. But since the 3c575 driver isn't
in the stock kernel sources, I don't know where to go from there... :-(
--
John Oliver, System Administrator http://www.allegiancetele.com
ConnectNet, an Allegiance Telecom company http://www.connectnet.com
6370 Lusk Blvd. Ste F103 (858) 638-2020
San Diego, CA. 92121 FAX: (858) 623-1505
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:54:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:00:09 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:45 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>>
>>Perhaps, although humankind existed for 100,000 years without
>>formal science... 3 or 4 hundred years is probably not enough time
> So. That doesn't have any relevance to your own existence.
I'm sure that ethics had a part to play in my eventual existence.
Our parent's didn't strangle either of us at birth. I can't imagine
Science had anything to do with that.
> That is just empty rhetoric on your part. The fact still
> remains that you only exist because technology has allowed
> you and your forebears to live and thrive. Unless you are
> Amish, just about anything you have is a result of this
> 'highly questionable' scientific method that is taken on
> faith.
I agree, so what. I'm saying that Science depends on faith.
You ask that I fall on my knees and thank the higher power
"Science" for my existance. I prefer to thank it's creator.
>>
>>I proposed several hypothesis as to why the Scientific Method
>>appears to work. No speach... just some questions.
> They are irrelevant. They all resolve to the same outcome.
What is that, and why?
> God and faith become meaningless when they don't have any
> impact on your life. Even if this is some strange game,
> the fact remains that we seem to be figuring out the rules
> rather well.
I've demonstrated that a Materialist needs faith to believe
in Science.
Or for those with a sophist bent...
The "rules" in science change so quickly they can't really be
called "rules" at all.
> It is not up to us to disprove your absurdities. OTOH,
> proof by counterexample should be trivial enough that
> you would be willing to take on that burden.
Do all scientist call alternative hypothesies "absurdities"?
Each one fits all the facts. Pick one and tell me why.
>>
>>>>Science comes up with stuff that works... but it does not lead to
>>>>truth.
>>
>>> No one with any clue claims that it does. It suffices that
>>> it works remarkably better than following church doctrine.
>>
>>It appears so, for matters of the five senses.
>>It fails miserable when it comes to ethics or phylosophy
>>or religion.
> Who claimed otherwise?
This thread has had many posters, It started out by tring to
define the word "atheist". Many claimed that they could be a
atheist without having any faith.
I said that you can't even get to work in the morning without faith,
never mind believe in something like Science....
I also claimed that one could not believe in Science without
examining phylosophy and that science is a very bad way to understand
phylosophy.
Are you agreeing?
> [deletia]
> The rest of your rant is irrelevant to the point at hand.
> If you wish to force "god" to be considered relevant for
> discussions of ethics or philosophy, then that is another
> matter. I would disagree with you in such an argument as
> well.
I can't and won't force God into anything. I'm in a disscussion
with atheists and brought up God. I've never "forced" anyone to
consider anything. Furthermore I've identified a field of thought
where you have beliefs and you can't use the Scientific Method
to learn anything about them.
However, in a single post you have labled my ideas, "irrelevant"
"absurd" questioned my intelligents with the "OTOH" comment, claimed
I was "ranting" and demanded in a very judgmental and angry tone
that I bow down to your God.
Are you OK? Relax it will be alright.
> Man will always spoil enlightenment. So any talk of god
> is meaningless when it comes to just about anything.
> For "god" is just the agenda of man in disguise.
Far too often true, just as some Scientific developments and ideas
can be used for evil. Can't be used to argue the "truth" about either.
I'd like to examine your .sig. It explains the problem
quite nicely.
>
> Having seen my prefered platform being eaten away by vendorlock and
> the Lemming mentality in the past, I have a considerable motivation to
> use Free Software that has nothing to do with ideology and everything
> to do with pragmatism.
Interesting idea. The word Ideology means, "the doctrine, opinion,
etc. of an individual, class, etc."
>
> Free Software is the only way to level the playing field against a
> market leader that has become immune to market pressures.
>
> The other alternatives are giving up and just allowing the mediocrity
> to walk all over you or to see your prefered product die slowly.
Sounds like an opinion (or doctrine) of an individual (or group) to me!
>
> |||
> / | \
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:02:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:32:20 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>>>> Or how about this one...
>>
>>
>>No, I'm sorry, You have speculated that the Scientific Method is
>>somehow different than a faith. Even impliying that "truth" can
>>be approched. I don't see how you can prove this and have mearly
>>given you some alternatives to the data you are observing.
>>
>>The burden is on you to "prove" the Scientific Method, without
>>using it in a proof.
> There is no burden. This forum is proof enough. This network,
> the machine you are blathering on, the house you are sitting
> in, the power grid that powers all three and even your very
> existence are all consequences of following the scientific
> method.
Strangely reminisent of the arguments of 500 years ago.
500 years ago they would say,
"What do you mean I need to prove God... All that you have and
all that you are come from him..."
>
> You having enough to eat, you being sufficiently sheltered
> from your enviroment to make it to adulthood, your ancestors
> surviving long enough to procreate, all are due to the notions
> that humans have about their universe that came about through
> the scientific method.
Yes, you believe your God is a strong God.
> [deletia]
> Demanding proof of the scientific method in this century is
> much like demanding proof that the sun exists.
Demanding proof of God 5 centuries ago was looked at quite the same way.
> --
> Common Standards, Common Ownership.
>
> The alternative only leads to destructive anti-capitalist
> and anti-democratic monopolies.
> |||
> / | \
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CHOPIN CUSACHS)
Subject: Re: Can I use my ATA/100 hard drive with my ATA/66 controller motherboa
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:28:05 +0000
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:15:42 GMT, "Mordak"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just purchased a new 60GB Western Digital HD. It's an ATA/100 IDE drive
>I want to run it on my motherboards (Tyan Trinity S2380 and a Athlon 650)
>ATA/66 controller - is this possible? I know an older drive can run on a
>newer controller but I'm unsure about it the other way.
>
Should have no problem at all. I'm running an ATA66 drive on an ATA33
motherboard with no difficulty. At first I put in a Promise ATA 100
card and cable, but lost an IRQ, which I needed, so I removed the
card. I couldn't tell the difference in speed.
Choppy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Drew Roedersheimer)
Subject: Re: xsane and Segmentation fault
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:13:27 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:21:50 -0600, Robert Jones wrote:
>I remember reading about this problem in *a* newsgroup or *a* web page
>several months ago. I didn't pay a lot of attention at the time because
>it was before I had a scanner. Can someone give me a clue?
>RH6.0, 2.2.16 kernel, xsane-0.47-2
>
>TIA
>
>--
>Future historians will be able to study at the Jimmy
>Carter Library, the Gerald Ford Library, the Ronald Reagan Library,
>and the Bill Clinton Adult Bookstore. --George Carlin
> 7:09pm up 5 days, 3:01, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00
>
>
I had this same problem some time ago. I have an hp scanner, and I had
to add the following lines to /usr/local/etc/sane.d/hp.conf
#scsi HP
/dev/scanner
option connect-device
Commented the scsi part since I'm using USB.
I then run the following to startup xscanimage:
`xscanimage hp:/dev/scanner`
Without specifying the hp part of the device I believe it seg faults...
I'm not sure, but I'd bet that xsane takes roughly the same arguments.
HTH
-DR
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 16 Feb 2001 02:12:00 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Dan Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Their is certainly a strong element of faith in science. We
: accept the existence of that we have no direct knowledge (muons,
: for instance) based upon the assurances of people we have no
: direct knowledge.
I've got some startling news for you - that's not science you
are describing - it's journalism: communicating the conclusions
of science to non-scientists. The actual scientists in the field
are NOT going to accept something just because some authority
says so. They will want to make sure the experiments are repeated
by others just to be sure. It's this little idea called peer
review.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 16 Feb 2001 02:16:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Robert Surenko writes:
:>> It also takes faith to believe the Universe is as appears to the 5
:>> senses.
:> I don't.
: Good, Materialist bore me.
How interesting an explanation is has no bering whatsoever on
whether or not it is true. The universe does not pander to
our amusements.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printer under linux
Date: 16 Feb 2001 02:20:49 GMT
Hi,
Could anyone please help me in printer setup in linux?
My config is listed below:
OS: RH 7 + kernel 2.4.0
no KDE (so don't tell me to use the printtool form RH)
HP laserJet 1100 connected to lp0 (par0)
I should have the printcap and modules.conf setup.
the content of printcap is following the print-HOWTO
i have the lpd runing and /var/spool/lp/lj (I call it
lj) with correct permissions.
In one word, I can print text (asc) file without trouble.
The real problem is postscript. I don't know how to
set up the master-filter and general.cfg in my spooler
directory. What should be the printer's desired format,
paper size (a4) and what should be the format of the .cfg
file. Can someone post a sample? Or should I use the
postscript one (lj1100 is not a ps printer)?
by the way, I have tex with dvips, etc.
---- Brittle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: 16 Feb 2001 02:31:02 GMT
Walt wrote:
: In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
: local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
: course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about the election
debacle that ensued.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem of compiling apache 1.3.14/17 with mod_auth_mysql
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:26:56 +0800
i got this error when i try to compile apache 1.3.14/17 with mod_auth_mysql.
i have no such problem with 1.3.12. can anyone give me some hints?!
the server is a redhat 6.2 intel box. thanks.
===> src/modules/auth_mysql
make[4]: *** No rule to make target `../../include/alloc.h', needed by
`mod_auth_mysql.o'. Stop.
make[3]: *** [all] Error 1
make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/apache_1.3.17/src'
make[1]: *** [build-std] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/apache_1.3.17'
make: *** [build] Error 2
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:50:40 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network
I forgot to mention that you can get a minimal
Linux system that fits on a floppy used just for
this purpose. See http://www.linuxrouter.org/
Greg
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From: Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help with LAN connection setup
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:30:03 -0000
With a LAN, all you need to point Linux towards is your Gateway (router,
ie. 10.0.0.1 or whatever IP your router is set to)
and list your DNS servers also, Primary and Secondary
I have this configuration at my office, and it works fine, even going
through SBS 4.5 with a proxy server.
One linux has your routers IP, and DNS addy's, you should be smooth sailing
Brett
grimace wrote:
>
> I am just beggining to experiment with linux and am wondering how to get
it
> to recognize my LAN internet connection. Can anybody help?
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot umount, ZIP questions
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:22:13 GMT
Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I'm using RH 7.0, and after mounting a CDROM, or ZIP drive,
> I cannot
> unmount it or eject the media without doing a shutdown. I
> tried the -f
> switch without luck, does anyone have a suggestion on how to
> force
> an unmount? Perhaps something like unmount /dev/cdrom
> -RIGHT_NOW :-)
You cannot umount or eject so long as the current directory is
set to be on the device to be umounted or ejected - you must
first cd to a directory on a different device. This may or
may not be your problem.
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FreeBSD out-serve Linux ?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:53:44 GMT
FreeBSD out-serve Linux ?
Netcraft keeps track of web sites with long uptimes.
Top 50 were ranked, and majority of the servers ran on FreeBSD, and Linux
was not listed. I thought that Linux had a large chunk of web servers,...
Should I give FreeBSD a try?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Subject: Re: printer under linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:47:48 GMT
In article <96i2q1$5bd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>Could anyone please help me in printer setup in linux?
>
>My config is listed below:
>OS: RH 7 + kernel 2.4.0
>no KDE (so don't tell me to use the printtool form RH)
>HP laserJet 1100 connected to lp0 (par0)
Hello,
printtool is not a kde application, afaik. It is an X application though.
If you can find it on your system, it will save you time.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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